How do zoomoids enjoy roguelites? >dude you died because uhhh RNG lmao>better luck next run, even though everything is literally RNG and no skill will save you
>>729274794unc crashout thread
>>729274978fr?
>>729274794deckbuilders are the only ones that make sense. Beyond that the only one that didn't make me want to tear my eyes out is rogue legacy (how's 2 in comparison?) Shit like hades has almost no randomization beyond boons or whatever they're called and should get boring to any sane person in a very short amount of time.
There's skill based methods of mitigating rng to the point that skilled streamers have high win rates but honestly it's a little much for me and probably most people who play the game. I've gotten dozens of A20 wins but I have a low win rate because I can't be fucked to spend 10 minutes on a single card choice. Every turn/choice takes me 30 seconds max now, I'd rather die and restart than have an autistic analysis for every decision.
>>729274794u posted the one game that is unloseable at it's base difficulty tho
you constantly make decisions in the game and the RNG makes the decisionmaking more engaging
Adapting to changing and unexpected situations is fun.
>>729274794It's a mix of the gambling high of not knowing when you'll get a good drop, but also has an interesting level of replayability because you're rolling with the punches of getting upgrades and toolsets you might not expect while pairing it up with a random series of choices and challenges.
>>729275607>pick-3 slop>emergent gameplaychoose one
>>729274794The process of learning the games in and outs and utilizing its mechanics to the fullest is fun. Roguelites are just hyper-condensed versions of this loop.
>>729274794Because you can play a run in 30-60 minutes. Doesn’t require a large amount of time to play a round or two
My main issue with deckbuilders is that you cant really experiment without throwing a run because keeping deck low is king.
Uncs enjoy roguelites too. Isn't Age of Empires 2 pvp all about being roguelite?
Why are tards on /v/ so unable to understand drafting games? I could understand considering clover pit and balatro gambling but something like slay the spire is in a completely different league>>729275726>>729275847posts like this just prove it, neither of you have any understanding of how many decisions are in StS and just mouth off random retarded opinions. In fact having a larger deck is considered way stronger and more consistent at higher ascensions because tiny decks are so susceptible to being wound/cursed out
Is the steam version easier? I never won on my phone but after downloading steam version i won my first playthrough.
>>729275984And you cannot read because you are assuming I am talking about STS
Roguelites are arcade games for zoomers.
>>729275984i'm not saying STS is bad, but it is a 'pick-3' type game, by definition. which is not really emergent gameplay in a true sense. you are given a predictable range of choices in a predictable pattern. its formulaic. again, that does not mean it is bad. lets try to be adults here.
>>729276073You probably just play quicker on phone. I would sit there for minutes sometimes just thinking about what to do going through all my options and calculating odds. I can't imagine trying to do that shit while staring at a tiny screen. Much more likely to just pick cards without thought.
>>729274794I'm onto you. You keep making StS threads with bait to keep them more alive. You love StS don't you OP?
It's a genre for zoomies too stupid to play high literacy gameplay density genres like STG
>>729274794unc is so bad at video games he has to vent on /v/ :skull:
>>729276849This is a thread about STS>>729277456Why is it not emergent? Every single card in STS is takeable under circumstances, I agree alot of "pick 3" games like Vampire Survivors can just boil down to picking the one that reads the strongest from all 3 but the gameplay in STS never encourages that type of stuff outside of P.Strike/Claw neither of which are that strong
>>729278676fr?
The youngest zoomer is 25
>>729274794Let me reframe it for you:>I want easymodo where RNG can't fuck me coz I can't git gud to win
>>729279007>get good>have to rely on RNG?
>>729279028Boomers get 90% winrate on ascension 20 in this gameYou have no excuse
>>729274794>top players have >99% winrate>but my death was totally rng brobait or retardfaggot either way
For me it's IronCHADSilenttrannies fuck off
>>729274794>dude you lost because uhhh RNG lmao>better luck next spin, even though everything is literally RNG and no skill will save you
>>729279291GODFECT > ALL
>>729274794Im a millenial. I like the feeling of progression that matches my increasing knowledge of the game. I actually find it hard to enjoy games with no sense of progression at all.
>>729279313me restarting until i get a workable claw deck
>>729277456You could say this about any game, all titles only have a "predictable range of choices in a predictable pattern" by definition. That's so ridiculous.
>>729279291I recently had a cool Ironchad run, nothing too crazy, but I had pandoras box from the act 1 boss. After a couple of turns against the act 2 boss I noticed I only had six cards left which surprised me because I didn't have any of the classic exhaust cards like true grit or burning pact. It just so happened almost every card naturally exhausted itself. I didn't even notice until that point.Anyway after I found dark embrace and fiend fire kino ensured. In one or two turns I had 30+ strength and could loop a couple of times with dropkick and pommel strike.
>>729275207>(how's 2 in comparison?)Marginally better but I hated Rogue Legacy.
>>729278745its not emergent if there are a finite set of permutations
>>729275847Chrono Ark is way more forgiving with deck experimenting since the game lets you replace your basic cards with new cards and if you have not been playing those cards then slotting a new card in their place will not affect your run in any way.
>>729279587very few games have emergent gameplay, yes i agreeglad we have come to this mutual understanding
>>729278606Everyone ITT is a retardThis is now a Mork thread
>>729279997Does STS have self serve difficulty with nitaku density?
>>729279912Emergent gameplay is just another buzzword that doesn't really mean anything.
>>729280085emergent gameplay can really only come from MMOs or games with really complex AI and mechanics
>MMO>gameplay
>>729280079STS suffers from a principle I would like to call math fatigue. The game lacks a core identity in the way that the player was meant to sort of.. *drag* the card rather than properly space it like you would in Magic the Gathering
>>729279997>>729280079Hades 2 really is a case of self-serve difficulty where the 2 good weapons cleave the entire run and they task (You) with applying enough heat so the game is fun again. Shame there's no video about that.
>>729279870Don't be disingenuous, it's emergent as far as any human lifetime is concerned and even then different decisions can be made in a single seed.This is like saying Chess has no emergent gameplay or something because there's a possible static amount of boardstates
>>729274794>play risk of rain 2 with the option where you get to convert dropped items into anything within the same tier>it stops being fun because the underlying game just sucks and is entirely reliant on recreating that high you got when you first got a god runappeals to nigger brained zoomers
>>729280779Risk of Rain 2 is especially horrible and designed by retards>game has stackable double jumps>still has fall damage>"one shot protection" except every enemy fires in small bursts so it doesn't count>retarded final boss
>>729280779Cheaters have no place accusing others of acting like a nigger, anon.
>>729280779It doesnt help that RoR has the isaac issue where ~75 percent of the items are nigh on useless
Is this one of those games where if you try to use all the cool cards, you get buttfucked by never being able to draw what you need?
>>729280475I mean Rivals +4, Armor Buffs +2 and Shadow Friends.There. That's all the heat you need and the game should again be fun.
>>729280943If you want to play like a retard without thinking you can do so by not increasing the difficulty.
wtf do I do against slime faggots?
>>729280895copeartifacts are part of the game
>>729281451Kill the grey one first, if they are splitters always try to burst them as hard as possible before they split, you have to calculate how much damage to do in a turn without splitting them.
Never skip gang where we at? I paid for the game, I'm picking a card
>>729274794Because zoomies suck at games and instead of playing one that requires skill they'd rather play slots until they can get a busted combo that 1-shots everything
>>729274794having a brain will save you. to do mental calculations and formulate strategies by synergizing good cards after you read the description once. People get upset because the game doesn't hold your hand teaching you is funny.
>>729281632Holy copeLe hardcore arcade faggots literally get filtered by anything they can't memorize or spam press Y to invincibly awesome
>>729281761>it's better to play on giga easy mode where I don't need to think instead of memorizing patterns and button presses
>>729281828>being a copymonkey is actually super hard broLMAO
PLAY CUBE CHAOS, YOU FAGGOTSITS LIKE DECKSLOP BUT BETTER IN EVERY WAY
fire breathing bros...
It's all about IQ. Low IQ people are only aware of the most obvious or famous builds. Low IQ people also get hit more likely, have worse reflexes, bad positioning and strategy. They require powerful setups and only know how to build few of them, so it is mostly luck dependant for them. For higher IQ people, they have many more options of viable builds they can utilise to great effect. They avoid getting damaged, have fast reflexes, and have good positioning so they can create a predictive battle and not even rely on their fast reflexes. High IQ people don't really need to build a powerful setup, and can build them much more frequently. They will always have an at least adequate setup and can get by with a terrible setup just fine. They can have win streaks in the hundreds.
>>729275726>pick-3 sloponce upon a time this wasn't the case
>>729282261Shovelware shit unc...
>>729278872Wrong
Just picked up STS a few days ago and it just seems like there's no reason to not just pick the same optimal cards every run and then keeping the deck slim to draw them more frequently. I thought there would be more variation considering the praise the game gets.
>>729283486It depends on who you are playing as, it depends on the bosses you are facing, you won't always get to build the combos you want so you have to adapt.
>>729278745Even p strike has situations where it is the correct pick, even if it is something you will really want to move away from in act 2
>>729283486You should consider that: a. if you're playing on low ascendancy it literally doesn't matter what you do, you have to try to lose, and b. status cards exist and can completely buttfuck thin decks.
>>729274794Procedural generation is fine, deck building is not and all card games are utter sludge that can be reduced to a literal excel spreadsheet
>>729274978>>729275173bussin sussy just zuss my shit up senpai fr nigga unc ass bitchess finna crashin out so hard rn no cappa in da brappa
>>729285149sheeeeesh
>>729275929Pro aoe2 sure is heckin kino
>>729275416Truke. I either pull corruption + dark embrace or I lose A20H, simple as.
>>729285149lil bro lowkey crashing out fr
Really do not understand millennial/gen Z humourHow is this funny, it doesn't even make sensehttps://www.reddit.com/r/slaythespire/comments/1pqvzvr/slay_the_spire_is_woke_and_heres_why/
>>729274794>everything is literally RNG and no skill will save youA top player might only have a 50% win rate, but a low level player will only have a 0% win rate. The difference between the two is skill.
>>729285320I chuckled because I am a faggot
