That's why best horror games were on PS1

Just read a book retard

>>729282005
Why is it that the faggots who always complain about "games these days" only play the latest Cawa Dooty, Sony movie, and Ubislop?
There's plenty of indie games and mid-budget games that don't have high fidelity and capture the player's imagination.

>>729282005
Total bullshit written by a zoomer pining for the 90s even they were born after.

>>729282323
>midie and mid mid-budget games
Go back

This is also why I fell out of Pokemon once it went 3D. The world and the battles were just so lifeless compared to what I imagined in my head when playing the 2D games.

>>729282345
Millions of zoomers were born in the 90s retard

>>729282323
99% of those games suck. old games with low fidelity compared to today were made by the best and the brighetest back then, not like the retarded troon making your indies today

>>729282323
Would be nice if AAAs weren't shit though. Like every major company from 20 years ago produces this realistic shit now

>>729282323
Mid-budget games aren't really a thing anymore, that's what's part of what's killing the industry. Everything is either low budget or big budget, nothing in-between.

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>>729282005
And why does their imagination only stop working when they stop playing the mainstream popular titles from back then, I wonder?

>>729282765
New games have too much detail. Nothing is left to the imagination. What's on screen is exactly what the developers intended.

>>729282005
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>>729282765
ragebait twitter thread. You can see what's happening on screen by the way.

>>729282801
>Nothing is left to the imagination.
Maybe if you lack the imagination.

>>729282958
I have an imagination, new games just aren't designed in a way that sparks it.

When I play old games, my imagination still works fine.

>>729282243
theres depth to that

>>729283021
>I am retarded and unimaginative so I NEED gaps to fill or my imagination won't work
You're the level of senile that just needs to be euthanized IF YOU WEREN'T JUST FULL OF SHIT
You're not an Alzheimer's patient. You can form coherent and relevant sentences. You're just a FUCKING LIAR.

>>729283359
Imagination is something that comes naturally as you play. It's not something that you turn on or off or put effort into.

If there's no gaps to fill, there's nothing to imagine.

>>729283553
You're lying in such a retarded way. Draw a clock, right now. Either you'll fail miserably, in which case my mistake, you have euthanasia tier Alzheimer's - or you just succeed and you're lying.

>>729282005
why would you put OoT there when it was newfangled high-tech graphics shit lol, there's no imagination to be had

>>729283639
you weren't there

>>729282005
This isn't really the issue. The big thing that plagues modern AAA slop design is lots of superfluous detail. They're obsessed with creating a theme park like experience, but older games weren't really about that at all. Pretty much everything of significance in OoT immediately catches your eye because it's designed as a game first and foremost. The industries' addiction to yellow paint is just a cope for this phenomenon: If not yellow paint it would be something else, because they have to put in so much garbage that offers no useful information but just makes everything look more immersive. In the SNES and N64 days nobody expected realism and none of the game devs were dumb enough to prioritize it.

>>729283714
In 1998 I was either playing PSX kino like MGS or the infinite pile of actually imaginative and diverse PC games including text-based adventures and obscure lo-fi indie shareware. I feel sorry for people who actually suffered through being an exclusive N64 kid, it doesn't get much worse and narrow than that.

>>729283602
NTA, but drawing a clock is an involved act, whereas picturing a clock in your head is practically automatic, like dreaming. That anon is clearly referring to the latter.

>>729283935
oh you're a schizo console warrior... Should have just mentioned it from the start.

>>729283932
This is something I also noticed when playing older games.
Newer games don't have gameplay. I don't know how to define that formally, but newer games lack it, especially in contrast to the amount of tech.

There's something about the decision space in older games that creates more nuance. Newer games have mechanics up every nook an cranny, but if you consider the game as a decision tree, it's awful. There's no game in the game.

>>729284096
>Newer games don't have gameplay
it makes perfect sense when you realize they're mostly made by hacks who think movies are the superior form of media.

>>729284071
That'd be cool if that was right and relevant. It's neither. You're wrong and what you're saying is irrelevant. Your brain isn't some magical abstract instrument. Unless you have holes in it, you can imagine, and even some small holes still allow you to imagine stuff.

>>729282005
ain't that the guy who got told to stfu because he basically said "why niggas gotta be ugly in games" and all the ugly niggers crawled out of the woodworks to crab his ass back into the bucket?

>>729282005
>this piece of shit that looks bad, well see, I can imagine a better thing than this piece of shit, so I'm more accepting of piece of shits
if only this applied to more walks of life we would be in heaven

>>729283021
Everything can spark your imagination, you can lock at a random cave and imagine what's inside of it. There's no reason this doesn't apply to newer titles, you guys just don't like the newer games so you're not immersed enough to care about using your imagination. You can just as easily play an older game you don't like and find the same issue if you're not interested in the game overall.

>>729282005
It is also the more graphically intensive the game becomes, the less dynamic interaction there is overall.
It becomes more rigid because the focus is surface level.
Man the captcha expires too fucking quick
Niggers tongue my anus
God forbid someone gets more time to get introspective

>>729284096
Because outside of death stranding, when was the last time a AAA game really had novel mechanics? AAA games are all the same openworld with crafting and an RPG skill tree and waypoints, or a FPS with some kind of grindy weapon / skin unlock system, or like a sports game.

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>>729284250
You're struggling to understand the point of the OP when it's staggeringly simple
>due to technological limitations, older games had simpler and more impressionistic textures. These left out a lot of visual detail, allowing your imagination to fill in the blanks to match a greater level of detail than what is actually shown on the screen
>modern AAA games are inherently realistic, so the impressionistic quality is lost, and little is left to the imagination to interpret

>>729284779
I'm not, it's wrong and I'm explaining WHY it's wrong.
If you assume it's right, absurdity follows. It's the kind of bullshit that wrong even if it's right. Which is unfortunately the most clear-cut way of being wrong.

>>729284779
Acting like the bad graphics actually improved the game is a dumb though. I agree old games are better and more soulful, and old games obviously had worse graphics, but saying that "good graphics are bad actually" is silly.

>>729284779
You're making up overcomplicated theories for an entirely different and simple concept, anon. The older games just had better art styles and visual level design. There's no mental manipulation going on, the good titles back then were just better at conveying this type of thing to the player.

>>729284872
I'd give it a bit more slack if the idea actually worked in reality. It's just people sniffing their own farts at their (reversible) cognitive issues. Brothers, just start imagining things and stop dividing your attention, your cognition will bounce back. I promise, this is based on research.
Don't blame improved graphics for something they clearly didn't do.

>>729284096
>I can't explain it
>but <OLD GOOD NEW BAD>
Maybe you'd have an easier time explaining if you removed your head from your own asshole. Pretentious halfwit.

>>729285290
I can explain it and I did. I just said I can't define that formally. Are you stupid?
Old games have more gameplay. The decision space is different. I noticed this as I played old games I've never played.

>>729284840
Retarded, incoherent babble. Don't reply to me again. Merry Christmas.
>>729284872
>"good graphics are bad actually"
Neither my post nor the OP imply this. Pixel art and low-poly graphics (I struggle to use the term "bad graphics" here since it's nebulous) have strengths that hyperrealistic styles lack, which I and OP have identified. Neither of us describe these graphics as "good" or "bad". OP doesn't dislike hyperrealistic 3D games because their visuals are "bad"; he dislikes their visuals because they lack the impressionistic quality that low-poly 3D games had. Don't polarize or boil things down to a simple "good vs bad". This applies to more than just video game graphics, too.
>>729285152
>The older games just had better art styles and visual level design
That's an unhelpful generalisation. OP likes older games, but it's not because they looked "better" or because new games look "worse". OP specifically articulated that he likes retro, low-fidelity visuals because "your imagination did a lot of the heavy lifting in a way that felt stimulating and fulfilling", and that it's "something [he] just doesn't feel with hyperrealism".

>>729285152
You sound so retarded that I fell out of my chair laughing, the guy literally hit the nail on the head and explained it in the up most simplistic way and your retarded ass still failed to grasp the concept.

I want to thank you for allowing me to have such an amazing laugh at your expense, you really brightened my Christmas, you are my Christmas miracle.

and in your honor I will donate $15 to Saint Jude.

>>729285501
>Retarded, incoherent babble
You can say so, but it's very relevant. The take is so retarded it demolishes itself. It's clearly wrong and even arguing for it is futile.

>>729285234
Imagination isn't something a person can actively do, it's entirely subconscious

>>729282323
My brother in Christ. You DO understand shit like FF6 and OoT was the cutting edge at the time, right?

>>729284212
There's a reason movies have more cultural impact and staying power than video games

>>729285579
Then why are you either choosing to imagine an apple or choosing not to imagine an apple right now? Subconscious and conscious processes in your brain are essentially fused. There's no strict divide. That's why someone can make you breathe manually.

>>729285553
NTA you're actually retarded
and not in the "you disagree with me therefore you're retarded" but actually retarded

>>729285657
What's the reason?

>>729285728
Yeah, and that obviously is coming from a place where you agree with me? Come on now, get over your feelings on the matter and actually think about it.

>>729282345
nigga go play an old rpg. fucking pallet town has three buildings and 10 people in it, COUNTING you and your fuckass rival DICKS. even if you assume Oak and his three researchers live out of his lab (they don't, dipshit, and if Oak lived with his Grandkids then it'd be his house, not his Grandkids house) there's two NPCs in the town that must be fucking homeless if you're not supposed to imagine there are more houses than just yours and DICKS's. EVERY game was like this because they HAD TO BE.

>>729282323
Give me an example of a mid-budget AA game that's come out in the last 5 years.

>>729285734
the average niggercattle prefers passive stimulation

>I can't quantify the things I'm nostalgic for so I'll just chalk it up to imagination

>>729282587
hear hear

>>729285786
Correct.

This is the difference between normies and people who like playing games, yes.

This is why the industry is dead in the water, because it had to start pandering to you normal people while forgetting about the creative people who played them.

You assholes was so stupid you couldnt use your imagination to fill in the gaps in games, so they had to make them for you.

>>729285884
You're so retarded you needed obvious gaps to fill for your imagination to run wild. That makes you unable to do that cringe shit seen in the image.

>>729285501
First of all, I never said anything about what OP or you like and dislike.

>OP specifically articulated that he likes retro, low-fidelity visuals because "your imagination did a lot of the heavy lifting in a way that felt stimulating and fulfilling"
Yes, I know, but subjective feelings aren't explanations. A detailed beach can elicit the same feeling as a low poly one, you haven't articulated any reasons for why that isn't the case. Just stated that it stimulates your imagination more because there's less details, but that isn't how imagination works. If we took a really detailed painting of a beach and compared it to my shitty beach drawing from paint you would absolutely not say that my image stimulates the imagination more, because obviously there is a lot more at play than what you're implying.

>>729285786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RWD1ikLI6g

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>>729282005
Forget the visuals (as far as graphical fidelity). Go back to text adventures and find Ye Flask if you want to purely exercise your imagination.

The stories in games today are usually either non existent or the same shit we've seen for 30 years. The atmosphere the games are supposed to create in our brains is rarer and rarer. A good game uses visuals, audio, and storytelling to put you in scene like the author of a book would or the director of a film. You "feel" it and your imagination puts you in the game and you make a memory of it like you were there.

>>729282518
yeah your experience of the 90s was rolling in your cot shitting yourself. thanks for your valuable input 97-kun

That fidelity just aged better as an art style. Even though it was high fidelity at the time, it being as abstracted as it was helped it. And then there's the gameplay density of older games vs newer ones

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>>729282005
What can you expect when their brains are wired to only receive content stream from toktik or whatever.
Zoomers are literal NPCs, unable to live and think for themselves without a ready script.

I love 2D pixelart and games.

>>729282005
I play tabletop, bitch. This is baby shit.

>>729286017
This is well said. I think people already go astray when they intellectualize something that wasn't born from intelligence. Analyzing is one thing, intellectualizing feelings is just using your brain to be dumber.
It's whether the deer in the headlights explains or tries to make their behavior seem intellectual. If the deer tries to paint staring at the oncoming lights as some kind of intellectual thing, that's a really retarded deer. A smart deer analyzes what the fuck happened there, and obviously realizes it couldn't think calmy and rationally in the moment.

The truth is, old video games don't require you to use your imagination to enjoy them. New games inspire imagination. What is up with people confidently saying things that are just wrong at both ends?

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>>729282005
I love late NES games like FE2 and FF3 for this reason. Don't see it for 1997 games at all though. Must be a generational thing.
That said DS2 kind of did this to me I guess.

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>>729286237
>The atmosphere the games are supposed to create in our brains is rarer and rarer.
Its wild to me how badly the SH2 remake dropped the ball. Its an ok game but missed the market on atmosphere. You dont get comfy anymore. Swear DQ11 and BotW were the last comfy games.

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>>729282005
because gaming now is full of normal fags and npc's with no imagination and majority of developers are a bunch of retards

>>729287219
I did wish Mizaki did more with the giant skulls in ER just becuase they were so fucking cool.

>>729282323
Give me back AA games and I'll stop shitting on this industry

>>729287551
E33, the clones will come.

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>>729287219
Dark Souls 1 did everything OoT did, and somewhat better. It's a game with several extremely secrets zones, vendor from the most highly unlikeliest of places, magic where you shouldn't be able to find it, covenants that you need to explore carefully, etc.

Which is all OoT is about. You can't bomb small rocks in Dark Souls to reveal secret caves, but that's fucking it all for the difference it makes.

That's why Dark Souls 1 can be reasonably called "OoT but difficult and with estus flasks", because that's not a bad way to conceptualize it.

>>729285865
You'd think the move would be to give examples that prove their point rather than just giving examples of graphics that rely on a robust visual shape language that stood the test of time. If anything, these examples prove the opposite of this "imagination" wanking. They show that no amount of imagination will salvage graphics that are put together thoughtlessly.

>>729282243
I'm American, I don't read books.

>>729282323
Because they are dipshit retard third worlders with double digit IQ that don't actually play or care about games. Usually console plebs as well.

>>729288269
>I'm American
Just say stupid.

>>729282005
Idiots think those games didn't have good graphics and required "imagination to fill in the blanks"..... when in fact they had outstanding, mind blowing, cutting edge graphics when they were first released.

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>>729288532
Merry Christmas, subhumans.

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>>729282005
This is also why MMORPGs were better for the soul when they were glorified chat rooms.
No cutscenes, no forced scripted questlines, no instances, no automation, no convenience.
Just you and a buncha other lads RPing in a virtual world filled with dangers and mysteries to make shit up about.

The real fun was the friends you made along the way, and the memories you made together.
The game was there to spark your imagination with its immersive atmosphere and music, and to be something to bond over.

When a game hands you everything on a silver platter, all it does is waste your imagination.
Trading your time for a forgettable experience that is consumed passively.

>>729283932
>because they have to put in so much garbage that offers no useful information but just makes everything look more immersive
Except if you think for more than 2 seconds it actually becomes less immersive, because the amount of clutter they put in is practically hoarder level, and most of the world just isn't like that.

>>729288603
it's also for some reason the games with visually clear graphics that get brought up

>>729282005
Said it before, will say it again, the real problem is newer games don't have the confidence to let things breathe. It's like they are afraid if the player isn't pushing a button to get awesome, or engaged in some tedious task, or watching some spectacle cutscene, or having some character quip after no more than 40 seconds then players will just stop playing. Imagination is sparked in the quiet moments, not the loud ones.

>>729282005
>old games being good is literally a figment of your imagination
lmao what a self tell that you're just coping/deluding yourself, and that you're even aware of it.

>>729289783
People just latch onto imagination because the word is vague enough It's just that this word has real meaning and people use it to make statements they can't possibly believe in, because the statements are actually fucking retarded.

>>729282243
This. Or tabletop rpgs.
And I don't see what hole OOT had to be filled with imagination.

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>>729288523
>acting like most pc gamers aren't fornite or roblox kids

>>729289946
the hole between Saria's legs that you imagined being filled with Link's penis

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>>729283553
I'm realizing now that the same applies AI generated art and how inherently unexciting they are to look at

>>729283932
>Theme park
This is what I've been saying. New games are like a park with all kinds of attractions to gawk at with different rides and the odd game mixed in somewhere. They build out these bloated 40+ hour things with a kind of journey in mind for you. It's not as often about having some core gameplay with progressive challenges for the player in a narrow window. It's not as tight, the minute to minute experience is completely different, hence terms like walking simulator that people have come up with.

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>>729282005
>ohmygod life was so much more magical and whimsical when I was a kid and now I'm old and cynical WTF happened bros?
I hate these fucking retards so much
I grew up playing Half Life 2 and Garry's Mod in highschool and that shit was magical and amazing despite being the premier example of "hyperrealism" at the time
>Shit graphics are good because uuhhmmm games from my childhood had shit graphics
The graphics from the SNES era of vidya weren't shit but besides that if it's such a point of contention just play any one of the hundreds of PSX inspired indie games being made these days
These people are just old and jaded and can only find enjoyment from things that remind them of their youth while simultaneously being embittered to the rest of the world, absolutely disgusting

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>>729282005
>Zoom Zooms are trying to understand how Gen X and Millennials experienced gaming
We were forced to fill in the blanks, because we had no other choice, and not because we enjoyed it. We could clearly see that the graphical fidelity was low and we would often fantasize about how amazing games could look in 20 to 30 years.

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>>729290405
They don't get the concept of things not existing they hardly exist themselves

>>729290405
>We were forced to fill in the blanks
I don't think people were forced to. This imagination stuff is completely made up.

>>729290405
>see cool looking aecade racing game on telly
>never play it because parents were against videogames, just play imagine how the game would function while playing with friend on a swing

>>729282005
OoT is a shitty example. Imagination filling in the blanks were mainly for 2D games and JRPGs where a lot of the narrative for the journey was left up to you like early Pokemon.

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>>729282005
This feels like an argument someone whose into modern art would make to try and justify their shit taste while degrading the ancient masters and those who like their works

>>729290732
>unpainted

>>729290278
>>729290405
You graphicsfags ruined gaming. When I read you posts I just imagine it's being typed up by the the darkest gorilla nigger or the sweatiest fat cholo that says "yo nigga that some wack shit on yo DS lil kids toy ass shit nigga wachu playing dat shit fo esse yo come to my house I got dat PS5 with the latest fifa y'all'd thank Messi in da room witchu know wud I'm saying nigga?"
Fuck you and kill yourself. Graphics is nothing but bloat the expectations for it from cavemen like you has ruined game development.

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>>729290797
Unfortunately for (you) I fucking love modern PSX inspired vidya, btfo's the pixelshit era from the late 2000's/early 2010's

>>729290278
It doesn't seem like an organic opinion people arrive at by just thinking back to the past. It sounds more like something people hear and parrot because they think the opinion sounds refined. From that point of view, there's something wrong with a person who takes it seriously. It's just a retard test and a concerning number of people failed.

>>729290732
Modern art sometimes invokes rather transcendent questions. It's an unfair comparison, because modern art that makes you think is relatively refined in comparison. This is stupider than people appraising a shoe someone left at an art gallery. At least there's something to go on with the shoe.

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>>729290797
>le progress is le bad
>we should have stayed in the Atari 2600 era forever
Merry Christmas, Browncel

>>729282005
This is actually a neurological fact. Media that forces your brain to engage more creates more pathways within it thus making you "bond" with that media further. Your brain meeting the game halfway is engaging your mind in ways that graphical fidelity isn't.

>>729291893
So, how do low-fidelity graphics make you think more, or is that just nonsense when applied to this argument pulled out of an ass? (hint: it is)

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>>729292814
>So, how do low-fidelity graphics make you think more
There are whole art movements focused on demonstrating this

>>729293062
Yeah but it doesn't discredit what Michelangelo did you fucking mong

>>729293156
The sistine chapel is the equivalent of a PS4 moviegame

>>729293062
That remains undemonstrated. Seems like they failed in that case. Go let the whole movement know.

>>729282345
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>>729290582
Stop trying to make it about generational wars in unrelated topics.

this thread is ragebait because it's true and dumbfuck consoomatards are having their minds broken about their gayass GPUs

>>729289091
>When a game hands you everything on a silver platter, all it does is waste your imagination.
>Trading your time for a forgettable experience that is consumed passively.
>>729282005
Not quite.
The less you see - the more you have to imagine.
But.
Descriptions, illustrations and animations help a) to send your imagination somewhere toward author's intent, b) can give you more various ideas you can now imagine and c) conveys the atmosphere, tone and details.
Naturally, books and old games require quite a lot of imagining - and were mostly played by nerds - those, who already have imagination developed (and a lot of them are also autistic, which helps in imagination department through nearly mandatory "training", that happens naturally in their case).
Modern games with high-fidelity graphics potentially can create a lot of interesting things, unusual ideas and looks, which, while not utilizing imagination, would nevertheless provide a lot of references for further use.
Problem with modern games lies, however, in attempt to recreate parts of already existing things without considering if those things are interesting-looking or at least beautiful in the first place. Modern creators and those, who control money, often do not have imagination well-developed nor references of anything but rather boring parts of real life - and that stems from movies a lot (and also from the point of view, that "i am too adult for comics-cartoons-games"), while media (with reputation from good creators) had started to bring money, so not-creators just try to get in anyway.
Separately stays modern insanity, that "uglyness = inclusion of ugly people" and that somebody wants that in the first place - and this is fueled by bland non-imaginative CEOs following on "selling trend" mindlessly (which is always the case, but without this insanity can work in favor of good things on occasion).
But we got a combo of uglyness being pushed, creators not being creative and CEOs wanting money.

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>>729287551
really just sounds like you guys don't play many games
I don't either, most of my recent stuff is remasters, but there's been a few good Indies and AA titles

>>729289946
>And I don't see what hole OOT had to be filled with imagination.
There's nothing. These guys are just rationalizing. Ocarina of Time offers a fully explicit 3D world. Virtually nothing there was deliberately hidden to leave room for interpretation (like faceless characters or something).
What happens is that these fags look at poorly made 3D models, low-quality textures, horrible animations, and think, "Wait, this is the best game of all time, it can't have these flaws, it was definitely a feature for a more immersive experience!"

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is this unironically the new unc cope?

>>729282005
Early 3d looked like shit I distinctly remember thinking what it shame it was that 2D games looked so good on the PS1 but everyone used clunky 3D
Eventually it got better near the end of the consoles lifecycle but there were some real messes early on

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2D peaked on CPSII, Taito F3, NeoGeo and IGS PGM

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>>729282005
For reasons unknown to man, the PS5 cannot produce mind-boggling effects.

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>>729290405
>We were forced to fill in the blanks,
No we didn't because we had manuals that showed us what the artists intentions were.

>>729299232
Same here.
I don't know if I was less retarded than average, but I clearly saw early 3D as a trade-off, with the obvious disadvantages being the artistic side. I was one of those who understood that Yoshi's Island on the SNES was artistically superior to Mario 64, for example.
I'm surprised that so many people were unable to see that. In some games it was more obvious; I think even the dumbest of the dumb understood that Castlevania X on the SNES was artistically superior to Castlevania 64.
One of the few genres where this wasn't true was racing. Yes, Indianapolis 500 (1989) was just terrible graphically, but racing games quickly surpassed 2D games by far, for obvious reasons. Daytona USA in 1993 was already an example of how 3D was superior to 2D in racing, even artistically.

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>>729299234
>Cheese Pizza System

>>729282005
Imagine these nuts nigga lmao!

>>729299542
Honestly that's the best part. The artwork provided a glimpse into what the game should look like, and it helped spark our imagination to fill in the rest.

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>>729299770
>We still haven't got a game in proper Amano style
Feels bad man, there's no excuse anymore

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>>729294008
No I wanna yell at clouds and read
I do agree though the us verses us mindset does nothing, it should be us versus (them)

>>729287219
Missing information is now seen as a bug, where science must step in and fix it.

Nu video games are ugly as sin.
They have higher graphical fidelity but a complete lack of cohesive art direction.
Just look at FFVII Remake, the main cast is stylized while random npc look like they have been lifted from Fallout 3 or some shit.

>>729282243
Just watch a movie retard

>>729284872
>but saying that "good graphics are bad actually" is silly.
Good graphics ARE bad though, which medium got better by approaching technical perfection?

Are perfect digital synthesized sounds better than a live musician? Are 100% CGI movies better than movies shot with real actors on meticulously built sets and puppetry? Are digital photos superior to film photos? Are film photos superior to paintings? Are digitally drawn anime and cartoons better than ones animated on cels?

In every single case we know about historically technical perfection has always meant homogenization, sterilization, and loss of soul, due to ripping away opportunities for human expression, on the other hand letting humans have more actual control over the final look has always meant improved results, and that also means reducing scope until a handful of visionaries can have an impact instead of letting sweatshops of artists churn out board-approved slop

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using my imagination? Why? You want me to WORK while trying to enjoy video games? We need more accessibility options by the way so that all my transblind, transabled neurodivirgent xisters can also understand the games they don't actually have any care or passion for

>>729287754
Dark Souls is shit though, it's a completely dead and barren world with zero internal logic or worldbuilding aspirations, it's an arbitrary setting entirely defined by the gameplay rather than being a synthesis of gameplay and setting, or a setting-first game that gameplay is supposed to convey (like a LOTR game for example)

Dark Souls is prime bait for insecure fags who are afraid of expression and actually standing for something, who consider everything cringe, and there was a wealth of those online right when Souls started getting big

>>729282005
Imagination is one of the core pillars of the human soul. People who can't enjoy visually underwhelming video games are hylics.

>>729290405
>we would often fantasize about how amazing games could look in 20 to 30 years
That's what created the imagination effect in the first place, it actually coming true would never live up to that fantasy

It's an illusion like a magic trick, the trick creates awe but also a frustration at not understanding how it works, which makes you want to find out how it's done, actually learning how it's done kills the magic

Similarly seeing a hint of a greater game world in a low fidelity game creates awe but also frustration that it's nut fully realized the way you can imagine, it makes you want to fully realize it in a modern AAAA game, but actually doing that kills the magic, that's the whole basis of the phenomenon, you have to restrict yourself from trying to kill the magic

Games are way better nowadays compared to what they were in the past. And i say this as a boomer who played old games in theirs times and still comes back to play them sometimes.

>>729282005
The fuck do you need imagination for in those examples? Everything is represented visually just fine

Hyper realistic graphics are just garbage compared to games with strong art style

>>729282518
what about niggas from 95

>>729282005
I think these people are mistaking good art style with graphics not mattering. But I will also admit that a good art style makes the need for graphics to be not as high, because then the detail necessity only reaches a point that's necessary or allowed by the art style.
I feel bad for the fags that work on realistic AAA slop, imagine needing to spend a month of your life detailing a burger and eating animation that ~10% of the playerbase will see, and an even further fraction of that playerbase will give a shit about the model quality.

>>729298428
>remasters of games i already play
>wokeshit

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>twitter thread
imaginationlet thread

>>729301824
They're at the end of the generational shift from millennial to zoomer. Most people born in between these periods usually have issues with their identity, they're the "I was born in the wrong generation" kind of people because they don't feel like they belong anywhere

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>>729282005
You're the same kind of nigger if you think that something stylized is something you need to "fill in the blanks" with. If you ever say this, you do not like these games. That's not even my stance, that's just what YOU are saying but trying to flip around in a way to suck yourself off. Kill yourself.

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>>729282005
I couldn't find the thread I wanted to post this in so I'll post it here.
There's something about old ass vidya and the way lighting worked on their old models, and the way the sound quality was, that just can't be replicated anymore. In spite of the low quality, it was nice, might've been exclusively a PS1 thing and early PC though, I never really got attached to the visuals from a console like the N64.

>>729282667
What is expedition 33?

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Exactly why zuncs look at FF7 (there is no remake) and go UHH HOW DO YOU PLAY THAT????