21 years ago on this day, this was a thread on /v/.
>>729282346I ain't reading allat unc
I quite enjoyed reading the stimulating contents of the image you've attached to your thread, uncle.
>>729282346Just imagine how old these fucking people are now
>>729282346Little did we know that video games peaked on the DS
>>72928270941
>>729282346What made /v/ or 4chan lingo as a whole to change that hard? We don't have ppl calling each other jews, niggers, retards or some /pol/branded buzzwords, what happened? What changed us?
>>729282346That isn't the real Vash in that thread because he didn't post without a double tripcode.
>>729282346pictochat was amazing
>Marked for deletion (old).
>>729282897The internet was literally 99% white people, so there wasn't any need.
>>729282897We just wanted to play video games but (((they))) wouldn't leave us alone.
>>729282897/pol/ leaked and tourists came.
>>729282564Based
Why is there so many namefags
>>729282346>snackswhat is he up to these days?
miss me yet?
>>729282564FPBP
>>729282897India and most of the rest of the third world didn't have internet access
>>729282897all the good oldfags left and the ones that stayed were epic fails who didnt teach newfags teh chanz culture. plus the culture war and massive traffic of people going online in the 2010s raped any semblance of "culture" the internet had left.
>>729283128Why so obsessed, cumskin?>t. Indian 4chin oldfig
>>729282897People ask the question every day but nobody listens. This image is the modern internet, but it wasn't like that in the past.
>>729282897White erasure and antiwhiteismthey pushed this shit way too hard and spergs like us noticed and started drawing conclusions.plus the niggerification/White erasure of our language/lexicon.zoomers literally can not stop just repearting some dumb shit thing any nonwhite person on tiktok says.You can>reee /pol/ go backall you want. but until the issue of antiwhiteism is dealt with things won't get better
>>729282564OP got BTFO
>>729283191Why so 'extremely low quality post', retard?
>>729283227Based
>>729282897The internet changed usthis was a time when 4chan was considered the less offensive alternative to Something Awful.
/pol/ go back
>>729283194wojaks are the reason everything sucks
>>729283278WAHHHH WHY ARE THERE CHUDS ON /v/
>>729282564Kek
>>729283251>>729283320why are you replying to your own post
>>729283185I don't think there are any actual oldfags left here. They all have either long since moved on and become normies, or killed themselves.
>>729282564
>>729282897it's the only site where counter-culture discussion wasn't erased and banned, so over time it attracted people who had been shunned by the mainstream websites
>>729283364yeah..no more huhwho would post here after 35 anywaycouldn't be me.
>>729283364>I don't think there are any actual oldfags left here.I'm still here. When I wasn't playing this game, I was on 4chan. I think everyone else is gone, though.
>>729282897Things literally got worst in society and sincerity gave way to irony poisoning.
>>729283191+10 izzat saar
>>729283490Will we ever go back? Just like societies of old where in a perpetual cycle of decay and golden years? Or the absolute lack of large scale wars was a poison in disguise?
>>729282897CIA & Mossad diluting free discourse and making anonymity a Bad Thing by swarming us with bots spewing schizoid racist shit plus zoomers being radicalised by said bots (as well as Nick Fuentes the most obvious intelligence asset political guy about) and generally having low attention spans so they just write the first most attention-seeking thing they can without ever thinking about the logic of what they are saying or developing any kind of world view or considering if there's any value in what they are writingAnyway I want to go back. I can play Elite Beat Agents and have actual fucking usable /v/
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>>729282897GG faggots/reddit rapefugees, tourists from black twitter and TikTok
>>729283364theres a decent amount of oldfags left. they just turned 30 and lost all their personality/forgot how to l33tspeak so they act like all the other posters on this site now.
>>729282897moot didn't just delete /n/ for good, instead he brought it back as /new/ and later /pol/
>>729283741>so they act like all the other posters on this site now.I take offence to that. What do me and you have in common? I really hope you aren't going to give the easiest answer.
>>729282564Unironically based.
>>729282346should I really get a pda?
>>729283474Why are you still here?
>>729283828This is how much I have in common with Nu 4chan, and they dare to say oldfags act like everyone else. You aren't even coming across them. >>729283962For the same reason you are; There's nothing else.
>>729282897back then you knew with near 100% certainty that whatever post you were reading was typed by White fingers so why would they be calling eachother racial slurs?
>>729283662eternal election season
>>729283364they're all in the Claude threadlurk moar
>>729283227pol retard
>>729284040no they're not
>>729283828u don't talk like these guys >>729282346 ur an newfag like the rest of us. but im glad ur still around. my big brother is an oldfag and hes cool.
>>729282564Fippy Bippy
>>729284223You couldn't name one thing we have in common. Reply after I filter your image and keep in mind I spend hours every day setting up filters on the catalog. Yes, hours.
>>72928336405fag here i wish i could leave but my opinions are largely unsharable with anyone. the past five years alone i felt a serious tonal shift in posting styles. the majority of people come here are clearly younger than me.i don't even play video games any more, i only want to come here to talk about the old ones i always liked, and then refresh the catalog for goon threads before they 404.
>>729284294we're both vertebrates
>>729284346>i don't even play video games any more, i only want to come here to talk about the old ones i always likedI'm guessing those discussions are non-existent if you're in this thread. Why not just go to /vr/ if you don't play new games?
>>729283364I've been here since 2006.I'm 38 years old and married now.
>>729284415different poster and 03fag, because /vr/ posters are essentially the same as /vg/ posters which is no good
>>729284415the games i like aren't retro, and they were all very popular aside from a few, so i don't have to browse /vr/ much, that board and /vg/ both are mostly just people talking to themselves with 0 cross-chatter. it's boring.the /vr/ct thread is kino thougheverbeit
>>7292837411 /|/3v4|2 |=º|2g0+
>>729282346i wish i could go back but i can't >>729282897>no endless pajeets, bots, brownies, kikes, corporations/government/glowies propaganda, barely any scammers, no phone posters i wonder why, internet was a paradise 20 years ago and in 20 years it will be 10 times worse
>>729282564put me in the screencap
>>729282346>everyone's either a namefag or a tripfagWell at least one thing's better on 4chan nowadays. No phoneposters must be nice though.
>>729283364Yea, I doubt there are many pre-2006 oldfags still left these days, most of the ones I see are usually in the yearly r/a/dio threads.Honestly, even as a 2008 newfag who discovered /b/ via the Newgrounds BBS I feel like a dinosaur on modern 4chan.
>>729284223wow your mean ~_~say that to my face in gaia online and not here and see what happens
>>729284978christmas break 2005 sophomore year of high school. we're at a rich friends place, and he says "lets look at porn" or something, and goes to 4chan.org/b/ and scrolls, i see some interesting threads, and he says "nah not here" then goes to a full furry website and i learn what a furry iswe don't hang out again but i remember that first url and check it out later
>>729282564Holy basado
>>729282346>Thread full of namefagsMaybe a bit of change was for the best
>>729284694And even for the countries in 1998 the barrier to entry for the Internet was much higher, so you had a lot of tech enthusiasts. The first iPhone basically shat the Internet up to become unrecognizeable when the normies and browns flooded in. And after that? Came the marketers.
>>729285285by 2008 or so they were much rarer, by 2012 basically extinct. People figured out pretty fast that there was no point to namefagging here and also that easily EASILY 95% of namefags were insufferable narcissistic twats who just wanted to be internet famousthe only namefag I even still remember is popcorn mariachi and that's because he singlehandedly kept /r/ alive while he was around (and supplied everyone everything, he was like a fucking drug kingpin but with torrents)
>>729282564First post best post
Did it work?
>>729285285Every zoomer thinking /v/ is the worst right now didn't get to experience this board just before the /vg/ split
>>729285498/v/ is full of schizos, retards, and liars now. It's never been this bad.
>>729282564Giga based, OP is a fag
was just watching this when I saw this thread, pretty relevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmnhJGdSM0
>>729285498this got me thinking about watermarks or signatures when an AI does it. not just the uncanny valley, but I mean a real written unique signature
>>729285707i miss the internet when it was just white men
Why was /v/ always faster than /a/ at any point of its existence?
>>729285841What kind of question is that? More people play video games than watch anime.
>>729285841anime only played on maybe 3 channels and comic book stores didn't carry manga
>>729285639As I said, you didn't go through that hell.You had three choices of threads: Generals, threads filled with tripfags, threads that died in 2 minutes
Blast from the past.https://old.sage.moe/v/search/type/op/order/asc/
>>729285882The concentration of weebs should've been higher here considering this was founded as an anime website.
>>729282564bro be kinda right tho
>>729282346Thank God tripfagging is kill.
>>729285932Right, but everyone who was here in the past knows that nobody cared about rules back then (except for the most extreme stuff) so you could see anime discussions on /v/. I never used /a/, for example, because people just talked about whatever they wanted on /v/.
>>729282897You can say this about every internet community, this was the era of forums and several internet websites, you had 4chan, gamefaqs, game trailers,etc, LATAM had Club Nintendo forums, Atomix forums, Japan had 2chan and 2ch, etc etc etcthose even devolved into smaller forums, there was tuff liek Final Fantasy Shrine, then the internet got nuked by forced centralization and the rise of server costs. hell at some poinst we had several youtube-like websites, you had to actually explore the internet and find shitNow everyone uses the exact same 5 websites so cultures were lost, some small forums are still around, old internet users do like to cling to those communities but yeah, now its impossible to make a unique culture because universal community guidelines forced by centralization and monopolies
>>729282564Oldtroons BTFO
>>729283194Yeah newfags who post wojaks really killed 4chan
>>729285639the problem with /v/ today is mostly non-whites, marketers, and especially leftists of the furry/pedophile/anarchist/tranny variety (who are pretty much all suffering some kind of mental illness/schitzod out on drugs)furries tried to get a foothold on /b/ early on, like we're talking 2004 or so, and were exactly like modern leftists (insufferable crybully self-victimizing twats in every single way who would spam threads with cp) but people weren't having any of that shit back then and fa/tg/uys put in a lot of good work driving them off /b/ back in the day. So much so that moot gave us our own board for it. That's one of the reasons all the old 4chan art has so much warhammer shit and involves a lot of furries getting their asses purged. Sometimes battletech stuff too.don't let modern leftists gaslight you over it, they like to pretend that 4chan was 'leftist' back then, but it was just as conspiracy minded then as it is today; everyone hated bush, everyone knew 9/11 was an inside job, everyone hoped voting obama would finally fucking fix something, but even by that point the reality of niggers was slowly gaining traction as people were finally introduced to the reality of nigger behaviour rather than the carefully constructed bullshit the mainstream media fed everyone4chan politically is only 'rightwing' today in the sense that the left in general went batshit fucking crazy and if you have stayed normal since 2001, well you're a fucking nazi now.
>>729282564DAMN SON!!!!!
>>729282564Holy kekkaroni
>>729282346man this reads exactly like a redit thread. was it all rigged from the get go? :(
>>729286285>this reads exactly like a redit threadThat's because 4chan predates Reddit. The fact that both 4chan and Reddit exist means 4chan would eventually become a prison. If someone can't post on Reddit without being banned, where will they go?
>>729286010The old internet taught a nigga how to be PATIENT
>>729286169>the problem with 4chan is that people don't have the right politicslol4chan being about politics is more of a recent thing
>>729286169It's just what the left does, try to infect something and take it over by force to fit their image of how things should be. They are always expanding and attempting to spread their influence everywhere.
>>729285498It wasn't bad, the only reason the /vg/ split happened is g rapeape was upset that threads he personally didn't like were on the front page more than his preferred threads
>>729282564Lol
>>729282346Why are there so many tripfags
>>729286169Liberals built and populated the early net. This is a known fact.Meanwhile cuntservatards where too busy breeding and labeling everything as satanic.>nice revisionism >nice reddit spacing
>uncmaxing thread
>>729286595They're just using a function that existed on the website. You won't see people do it now, because everyone is a horrible person, and they would be afraid of being filtered if they used a trip.
>>729286692You didn't read the post
>>729286725
>>729283467No oldfags exist because even after browsing here for decades you're not the same person you were 20 years ago. It's like looking at your dementia ridden grandparent on their final days. They may resemble someone you have fond memories of but their words and mannerisms are of someone entirely different.
>>729283364I've been here for 18 years now
>>729285364also back then you had to have a brain to use a computer/internet, back then it would take you hours to install windows and drivers, now you press two buttos and install windows and drivers
>>729286595What the other anon said. They started using them less as they got associated with attention whores. Sadly these days attention whores don't wear an easily filtered trip or name and instead just spout rage bait for easy (you)s from tards that can't follow "don't feed the trolls"
>>729286828>after browsing here for decades you're not the same person you were 20 years agoI'm the same person I was 20 years ago. I played Dota as a teenager until my 30s. Do you think I'm lying? I posted my play time: >>729283474That's not even the total, and it's my second account.
>>729286828People don't actually change that much
>>729286692reddit spacing immediately outs you as a newfagit's not a real thing, it's purely dependent on screen resolution and whether your browser word wraps or not that determines if text is one line or multiple lines, and people have been postinglike this on 4chansince before reddit existed"reddit spacing" actually started as a pejorative used by divide and conquer antagonists during gamergate when a lot of people left 4chan for 8ch, trolls on 8ch tried to call out posters they didn't like on 8ch as coming from 'redditchan' (4chan), and labeled any random post at all as using 'reddit spacing'. It was pure trolling and it made its way back from 8ch to 4chan like a memetic virus is wont to dohere it gained traction with retards and idiots desperate to fit in, who don't have any clue what 'reddit spacing' even is but saw it being posted and so mimicked the trolling in the way cargo cultists do.
>>729283364for me it will be 20 years in a few months. i have nothing else in life
>>729286914Correct. If someone does the same thing for any amount of time, they don't actually change. Change happens when you go through stuff, and if someone doesn't, they don't change.
>>729286595People wanted to stand out and because its there, This was 00's internet pro anonymization anti-self dox techniques had yet to reach the masses.
>>729286949You can go through things and still not change, life changing events are rare and don't happen to everyone
>>729282564oldtrannies, our response?
>>729282897look at the post counts, nigga. Those people probably knew each other.
>>729287007Well, whatever, maybe I was just saying stuff.I'm saying that I haven't changed at all, because I did the same thing my entire life. I was either playing video games, or on 4chan. Everything changed around me, but I stayed the same.
>>729286345And then there is runescape>three trillions of adds covering 70 percent of the screen, but you ignore all the flashy bright ads to mining for hours>learn to barter>learn about scamming>learn to type fast>learn to use your time efficiently>learn to type >learn to communicate with random fags for trade or boredom
>>729286978The 00s is when everyone practiced those things, a name or tripcode isn't an actual identifier for your RL identity.
>>7292863494chan has literally always been "about" politics. we just didn't have such clear labels back then. people back then who acted the way leftists do now were always hated on 4chan.
>>729283364haha yeah imagine ha someone who uhh actually made it coming back here every day. . . for years. because other niggas just can't compare to the genuine interactions you can get with people here . . .
>>729286169>especially leftists of the furry/pedophile/anarchist/tranny varietythe only time I see any of those on here is when a cock smoker like you posts a twitter screenshot so you can bitch and whine and generally talk about anything that isn't videogamesfurries seem absolutely quaint now compared to you politics obsessed faggots
>>729282897i still call people jews when they are kikes and i still post shit about india. no-no word is reserved fro special kinds of fags.
>>729287116and here we have a prime example of a gaslighting furry/pedophile/anarchist/tranny
>>729287051I think that's just how it is for some people. I've been the same for decades and I've moved across the US for a few years and yet I'm still the same as I was before that.
>>729287123Can I have (be called) the no-no word please.
>>729287154its Christmas today. let me just call you a melaneted brother instead. I do not want to use the word today.
>>729286934being concise makes you cool and know what you're writing aboutmaking a paragraph separation between sentences was juvenile
>>729282897old internet was mostly white people, old western society was mostly white peoplenow neither is true, so no shit you're going to get slurs
>>729287141>I think that's just how it is for some people.Maybe you're a schizoid like me. Number 6 might be way we stay exactly the same. If you don't like other people, you won't alter yourself in any way to cater to them. Everyone acts the way they do because they want to befriend the kind of person they like.
>>729287070It could still trace you, if someone had kept tabs on you, Evaxephon on love doll forums and yanderedev were two separate guys until someone connected the dots from here iirc.
>>729286938*glomps you* it's ok oldfag. we're all here forever.
>>729287203Alright' ill take it ni ce anon_
>>729287280:D merry Christmas , Nice person.
>>729287248^^ tysm :3
>>729287138Your paranoid delusions are right, I'm wearing a fursuit while fucking kids with my chopped off dick and plotting the downfall of organized government as I type (it's a very complicated process but this is just how I like to post), not some dude who's sick of the board being overrun with obsessive schizos who get personally offended when the discourse on a VIDEO GAME BOARD isn't entirely about hating trannyfaggots or whatever your favorite talking heads have told you to hate this week. Your next line is>hurr ur tranny>why talk bout vidya when twitter screenshots so important to society?
>>729286595holdover from forums and irc/icq4chan was weird as fuck compared to what everyone was used to back then, which was forums and chatrooms, which had usernames. It took some time for the tripfaggotry and namefaggotry to go away still. I even tried namefagging back then because I thought my posts were worth having attached to my name, but as many of us quickly discovered 1. no, it wasn't worth it and 2. most of the tripfags/namefags were self-centered egotistical assholes and that quickly became the association: If you namefag you're an asshole more concerned with making a name for yourself than actually talking truthfully about anything.what tripfagging and namefagging actually wound up doing for the most part is inviting people to screencap all your most retarded posts to remind everyone what a retard you actually are, and caused threads that namefags posted in to get shit up with arguments making everyone hate everyone involved. So people just gradually stopped doing it. There was a short little stint around 2017 or so when the qanon shit took off and someone advertised 4chan to abovetopsecret and ar15com boomers and they all flooded over here posting with their REAL names. Man was that fucking cancer. Some aussies drove most of them off with gorespam thank Christ, they moved over to 8ch and then maybe somewhere else I don't even care, I'm just glad they're gone.>>729287221look manI just don't give a shit what you think
>>729282564Holy fucking based
>>729287351thank you for providing an even better example of blatant gaslighting
>>729282346>everyone is polite and actually discussing things>no jeets>no basedjaksis it possible to actually go back?
>>729287382Something Awful as well right, iirc this site was founded to talk about anime after Furry and Anime was abolished from that site, and somehow the splinter outgrew its source piece of plank.
>>729287232I was lucky to find friends that liked me without me having to change, and it was nice that I didn't have to worry about how they thought of me. I still don't care how strangers think of me though. When I was in my teen years I used to feel 7 a lot but I did put in effort to try to feel things more. 2 is really the only other one that fits me, 3 maybe as I've had sex a few times before but it's not something I'd go out of my way for now.So maybe borderline? I've just always had the idea that people should like me for me and if not then I don't need to interact with them beyond a casual acquaintance level.Sorry for the blog tier post.
>>729287441after world war iv and the first thing america does is rebuild america online
>>729287441Not without a large amount of violence.
>>729287486Yea, Moot made this place for anime, it's why /a/ used to be anime/random
>>729287492>I've just always had the idea that people should like me for me and if not then I don't need to interact with them beyond a casual acquaintance level.Absolutely. You shouldn't have to act differently around a true friend. In high school, my friends were a guy nobody liked and a deaf kid. Why? Because they liked me for who I was, and I liked them. They both left the school, unsurprisingly. I hope they're happy wherever they are.
>>729287593I should add that it was a diverse school, so you can guess the race of my friends.
>>729287593They sound like they were good bros to have, I hope they are doing well too.
>>729287441>>no jeets>>no basedjaksSo it's a shithole then.
the muh white old 4chinz did not exist, anyone posting that in this thread is delusionalthere was a time when we used to play videogames, and every time I'd play a game or join a guild in an mmo or whatever with the other fags from this hellhole it was always at least 50% brownhell it might be higher than 50%, caught up with a guy a few weeks ago and found out he was one of those canadian eskimos or whatever
>>729287731>They sound like they were good bros to haveThey were. I would see people by themselves and wonder why they were alone. Sometimes everyone else is a bad person, and that's why people are alone.
>>729287761like minded people are like minded peoplethe issue is forcing non like minded people to pretend to be like minded
>>729287761it was decently diverse, just all nerds, outcasts and freaks united under one online culture
>>729287761>it was always at least 50% brownHow do you explain this survey? Do you think they were lying?
>>729287874>>729287874Unfortunately normies, and their fucking rancid opinions and tastes got access to internet devices, I guess also just people in general who were too stupid to even know how the internet worked also did, and this here we are.
>>729287761Dealing with the third world when only the top 10% can afford access to a PC+internet access is much more pleasant than when the bottom 20% can. The same was true of immigrants who managed to make it to 1st world countries vs the ones who can now. That's why boomers still view immigrants as good hardworking people.
>>729287486moot got banned off somethingawful over some anime bullshit, idk, and decided to make his own site with blackjack and hookers. I wasn't really around that early on, and my knowledge of how this place started is mostly secondhand. I'd visit now and then at the time, but I hated 4chan's format, it felt weird and retarded and out of date with modern forums, and this site would go down for months/weeks at a time anyway so visiting in the really early days was inconsistent for me.Yet here I am, 20ish years later. 4chan's still the only place where you can just bullshit with people with no signup, no name, no history and talk about shit you're not allowed to say anywhere else. Just post and move on. It's fun today (not as good as it used to be...) it was fun back then too.
>>729287925did they do one for 2020, to see how the consensus of the population changed over time.
>>729288051>did they do one for 2020Probably not, but it should be obvious to everyone how ethnic the website is now. I completely believe that survey, because there's no reason to lie on an anonymous survey. There's also the fact that I was here and spoke to them.
I made all my friends on this site and now it's being reduced to ashes before my eyes.Good.Is my first response, but I still use it so can you at least save a little.
>>729288093I believe you, but I also think that dogshit tastes are what plague (not just this site) but fucking EVERYWHERE nowadays, /mu/ isn't even cool to browse anymore its all k-pop whore circlejerk and zoomers talking about nu-metal. I do miss the hipsters because at least they had passion for the artform as the whole I'm Hispanic btw, not white.
>>729288149>it's being reduced to ashes before my eyesThat's not true. 4chan was literally destroyed this year and it's still alive. It's like Phoenixchan.
>>729287820That's true. Sometimes personalities just don't mesh well together so people end up being outcast for it and not because they are genuinely bad people.
>>729282564King, I fcking kneel. Fuck oldtroonies fuck namefags and fuck moot.
>>729287441IP block most of the world at this point
>>729288206You get me wrong.Where as before it was something there to hold up all that ash, somehow it seems as if even that has burned away.But hell, I'm doomposting on a site I'll be on in 10 years time so what do I know.
>>729288258>Sometimes personalities just don't mesh well together so people end up being outcast for itYeah, definitely. They were introverts, and normalfags are all extroverts. Some people just want to be alone in silence, and I didn't care if my friends wanted to sit in silence. It probably bothered the normies if they acted like that, and that's why they were outcasts. I'm sure that behaviour is much more normal in Europe, and they're just living in the wrong place.
>>729287761white 4chan absolutely did exist. I can only imagine brown hands typed this postpre-2008 the internet in general was predominantly white men/boys, and more obviously so the further back you went especially in the BBS days; the normies that were around posted in the AOL cattlepens, and the 3rd world simply didn't have internet. There were no smartphones, the iphone didn't exist, the most you could do on a phone was send a text message and it cost like 10 cents each in a 1st world country. Shit simply didn't even exist in the third world. If you talked to some 3rdie back then it was almost guaranteed someone upper class who was attending a university or worked in some big business and they were doing it from a desktop PC, they weren't some average retard from their country.
>>729288045>4chan's still the only place where you can just bullshit with people with no signup, no name, no history and talk about shit you're not allowed to say anywhere else.for me, what makes this extra special, is that it's not just common, but it's almost encouraged to insult the moderation here when it's shit. Yeah yeah I know it's "not allowed" anyway, but anywhere else mods/jannies permaban you for NOT walking on eggshells. Here you can at least post something obnoxious, take your three day (or warning) and move on.
>>729288342on the bright side if trends keep up eventually we'll be back to pre chanology levels of traffic and things can change more easily then
the R4 made the DS absolutely Godlike
>>729286938I believe there's other things out there in life you can live for. Merry Christmas. I hope for the best for you. This message goes for others there too!
>>729282897the internet was still a novelty and not a sociopaths wet dream. everyone was generally younger too so they still had optimism
>>729283035Old 4chan was infested with attentionwhoring namefags and tripfags. Then they all suddenly went extinct in early 2010s
>>729282564Zoomer W
>>729288409damage cant be undone
>>729283576>Will we ever go back?It's in God's hands now
>729282564>all those sametranny replieskill yourself
>>729288358>Some people just want to be alone in silence, and I didn't care if my friends wanted to sit in silence.It's nice to sit in silence with friends. Sometimes you don't need words, just someone's presence.Being alone (but not lonely) together is what it feels like it should be called to me.
>>729288342I think there's still hope to save the website, but it'll take more effort than its worth, especially now with governments around the world cracking down hard on de-anonymizing users and I doubt anyone who has resources wants the site saved. The site gets saved to what? Shitpost about PS3 having no games for the billionth time? Post Nickado's Gigantic morbid obesity gay butt for the billiionth? nah,
>>729288426That message goes for others out there too!
>>729288394early on the moderation here was actually good and it was pretty normal to seeMODS = GODSthe moderation was public, if someone got banned their post STAYED UP and everyone could read the retarded shit they got banned for and admins would sometimes include some funny red text for usthen gradually, the moderation got worse and worse, gamergate was the breaking point imo, when site moderation became openly antagonistic to the users but even before then it was getting there anyway. People were getting banned for absolute utter bullshit, and the bans were public so people were screenshotting and raising hell over it.site admins got tired of dealing with it so they made all the bans private, one of the worst decisions ever made on this site and has contributed to the decline in quality. the public bans acted as a feedback loop for the admins and the users both. Same thing happened with sage. Moot was a fucking idiot who didn't understand the point of it. "it's not a downvote" yeah well the whole point of sage is to let people know you don't want to contribute bumping and indirectly encourage them to sage it too if they don't like it either and that genuinely helped clean up trash threads. It wans't a downvote but it still helped clean the trash up. Getting rid of it was a mistake.
>>729288551>It's nice to sit in silence with friends. Sometimes you don't need words, just someone's presence.That's because just being around your friends means you're safer. Every diverse place eventually has people adopting prison behaviour. It just means diversity doesn't work at all.
>>729282346reddit spacing????
>>729288540things really get ran into the ground quickly now, eh
>>729288564https://crestresearch.ac.uk/resources/mining-the-chans/the website is compromised and has been for a long while. there is no hope when there is agenda to actively keep it in a shit state
>>729283227Yes, you're either in or in the way, and the "WAAAHHHH LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF IT WAAAAAHHHH" faggots are in the way.
>>729283364I have been here for 20ish years. Visited briefly came back years later.I don't post terribly often because there's just nothing worth talking about. Most of the crap I see is bait and people are too busy trying to start and "win" arguments instead of getting anything out of a conversation. This place feels more honest when nobody is trying to start shit and/or pretending to be retarded.I really just don't have the patience to endure most social media beyond leaving without a word, or chipping in my two cents and closing the tab. Getting into arguments is a waste of time because people are too busy trying to be right instead of seeing a different point of view.
>>729288474gradually, not suddenlyand they went extinct because people kept pointing out this place isn't about your name and identity, it's about your ideas and that resonated with most peopleand also if you kept namefagging it up people attacked and harassed you for itand also namefags had a tendency to be absolute shitheads which made people stalk and harass them even more
>>729288520There's no god, it's up to you.
>>729283780Funniest part is Girlvinyl played a part in demanding it back, only to then just burned down ED for the overly-sanitized Oh Internet not long after.
>>729288598>sageBut Sage has use outside of that. It's not unusual to use it if you think you post doesn't warrant the thread being bumped for example. It's not just a "I don't like this" sign.
>>729283364I'm still here but mostly lurking. Don't really like what this place has become but what can you do.
>>729288426>>729288572STFU moralfag
>>729288621It's just natural to want to be near people who you like, I think. It's the social part of human nature.
>>729282346>I hate Mario 64 due to the HORRABLE controller but I like it now that it's on a console with even worse controlsDid players really hate that controller that much, huh?
>>729288598They got rid of sage?
>>729288173basically, yeah. as funny as a great firewall blocking india or whatever would be, it wouldn't actually solve the problem. very 'purely socioeconomic factors' of me maybe, but I really don't believe it's racial, everyone is just the unfunny kind of retarded now and there are too many of them>>729288375yeah, but again, I really don't believe it's a racial thing, despite my very real fatigue in every other aspect of life. I see plenty of white retards on twitter when elon messes with the algorithm and my art and vidya feed gets a fresh polshit bukkake. we can at least agree on one problem, smartphones, iphones, and how ubiquitous the internet has become. watching your favorite thing become ruined sure is a bitch
>>729288753>your* post>>729288819They got ride of it showing up on your post that you used sage. You can still use it just fine but it's unmarked.
>>729288663I miss 4chan before you invaded to turn it into a political activism website.
>>729288796>It's just natural to want to be near people who you like, I think.People want to be around others who share their values. It's like everyone subconsciously does a check on potential friends>What is the chance of this person attacking me?>Will this person help me if I'm attacked?and that's why I say everyone adopts prison behaviour when they're around people who aren't like them. Like, nobody bullied my friends because I was with them. I was bigger than the people who could have bullied them. It went from two potential victims to a little group that people left alone.
>>729282346>tripfagThank The Lord for 4chanX! I haven't seen one of those attention seeking faggots for a decade.
>>729288621diverse people by definition dont think like you dothey dont think like you means you can't trust them, because you don't know what they will do and how they will actdiversity intrinsically means untrustworthy societiesthis is also why diversity doesn't help in any productive and especially creative tasksIf you're making a game for example, you don't want diversity - you need everyone to be on the same creative page all working in a unified direction for the game or else it loses its coherency. When guy A comes up with an idea you need guys B, C, D, E and F to all think it's good too, and that requires homogenization, not diversity. If you have diversity, everyone disagrees on what the cool stuff is and now you need tyranny to get shit done because everyones arguing all the time otherwise with their own personal vision that's 180 degrees from everyone else; too much diversity, not enough homogeneity.>>729288819got rid of it being visible, you can still sage but being visible is what made it useful, so it's effectively removed
>>729282897>what happened?Posts like >729282564 stopped receiving a giant red stamp that says>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>7292889144chan was invaded with furries trying to turn it into a political activism website almost on day fucking 1
>>729282564You really spent more than two hours samefagging posotive responses to your own post...
>>729288927you wouldn't see very many of them anyways, they're mostly gone. I only really see moose around these days, but now that I think about it I can't actually remember if he's a tripfag or a namefag
>>729288975lol which youtube video told you that?
>>729289017No youtube video, I fucking lived it, retard
>>729282897Moot didn't delete /pol/ like he said he would after it became stormfront just like /new/ did. Chanology and OWS brought a lot of cancer faggots here. Fappening, gaymergayte, 2016 election and /pol/ actively recruiting redditors to invade the site. It's an endless stream of cancer and aids all stemming from the people running the site refusing to take out the trash.
>>729288979Please understand, the sharty really needs unc to become a thing, so this is what they're resorting to
>>729288917Oh, yea I see what you mean now. Yea, you have a point there. I feel like even in group (i.e same ethnicity) though you still have that prison behavior happen on some levels.
>>729289017
>>729288982Tripfags and namefags (and their orbiters) get all filtered. 4chanX is a must have.
>>729289129Holy shit the youtubers are telling the zoomers that the furry hate was a political thing?
>>729285887Generals are at least about fucking videogames. That's more than can be said about their replacement: /vpol/ culture war and twitter screencap threads.
>>729289125>I feel like even in group (i.e same ethnicity) though you still have that prison behavior happen on some levels.That's just social darwinism. Even if everyone is the same race, people who are bigger or better looking hold more value in the group. I think everyone universally agrees it's a good thing.
Reminder that reddit won, now go back to your coomer ERP thread 4cucks
>>729289064>>729289179
ironically, sharteens are the only ones keeping the spirit of oldchan alive
>>729289158I've got it, but again, it's pretty much a non-issue now. the days of fags like lancedjack are thankfully behind us, though honestly they were less obnoxious than most of the board today
>>729288598Hiro should make it so that whenever a thread is autosaged, picture/post/thread is deleted, or user is banned, it shows the name of the mod/janny that made the decision and why. God fucking forbid we are exposed to their favoritism and hold them accountable for their retarded decisions (if/when made)
>>729289182Is it a good thing though? A lot of the things we use today come from the people who aren't bigger and better looking creating them.
>>729289179generals are cancerbasically just marketer threadsautists like them because they're retard that need to categorize everything into neat little boxesthe reality is that they kill original content and hide interesting discussion. imageboards aren't made for permanent threads, they are made for ephemereal ones, where you post whatever bullshit you feel like and if its interesting it sticks and if it isn't it disappears; generals outright break the very foundation of what an imageboard is meant to be, they are as bad as namefags and I hope one day 4chan finally kills that cancerous shit off. They never even existed until like 2010 or so. We went basically a decade on 4chan without any generals
>>729289254underage detected
>>729289292>Is it a good thing though? A lot of the things we use today come from the people who aren't bigger and better looking creating them.It's a good thing 100% of the time. If someone invents something I couldn't, they are smarter than me, and they have value. I was just talking socially and not about their value to society. On a group level, humans are more animalistic.
>>729289129The irony is that this artist has done a shitload of R34 between /tg/ and /v/.
>>729289289abusers hate being held accountablethe disappearance of ban reasons and public bans is because the people in charge of this place became abusive to the users
>>729289293/a/ had generals before 2010 they just weren't called generals and archives have been around since the very early years
>>729283364I came in 2007. 34 now.
>>729289238>actually we had to rape the site's culture and make vidya discussion impossible so zognald trump could tweet art of himself as master chief 10 years latergaming is saved
>>7292893464chan had namefags from the very start, that didn't make namefagging good for this placegenerals have never been a good thing, they are convenient for autists who don't actually care about discussion and just want to see their favourite topic whether it's interesting or not, and they are incredibly useful for advertisers who need to shill productsI am actually 1000% convinced they were and are perpetrated by advertisers primarily
>>729289238Of all the mods moot fired, he somehow let this cancer stay before giving the reins to Hiro
>>729289331Yea, that is true.
>>729289238Believe me, I am aware of who has been at fault since moot bailed, considering hiro doesn't care about anything but the ad and pass revenue.
>>729289421considering they were for things like fan translations and other pirating adjacent things that's highly doubtful
>>729289293>marketerThanks for confirming you're some of that post-2016 schizophrenic newcancer, friendo. There is no other group out there that considers "discussing things you like on the board appropriate for the topic" to be "marketing", so don't even try to weasel your way out of it.
>>729289332I don't find it ironic, you can be a degenerate and still respect what a website should be about and keep your degeneracy away from ruining other people's fun, furries in large part could not do that.4chan to this day bans furries because of the shitstorm they caused back in the early days, it should have continued and extended to the tumblristas too, and then to the modern woke mob, but it didn't; instead moot fell into that shit himself and then got mad and blamed his own users for betraying him when everyone pushed back on his censorship over gamergateand really, if mods had just left the fucking gamergate threads alone for a week instead of banning everyone posting about it, that shit would've disappeared without much of a fuss. The administrative response to browbeat the userbase like "how dare you talk back to us" is what really set the fire under gamergate's ass.
Nobody tell him generals are also a thing on Japanese imageboardsOr that forums also had an equivalent, usually called megathreads
>>729289495shut the fuck up retard
>>729289421>I am actually 1000% convinced they were and are perpetrated by advertisers primarilyGenerals started because of out-of-place r*dditors wanting to turn threads into subr*ddits.
>>729289581yea the idea he has is self cultivated because it was never that way in reality
>>729289313>producing OC>big influence on the internet>site culture that wards off normalfags>invasion board that actually gets shit doneim not one myself but lets be honest, almost every /b/tard oldfag was a teen when they started here. they're all boring old niggers now and it shows because this site has become a sick dog lagging along and begging to be put down. sharteens are the only ones doing anything fun anymore.
>>729289623doesn't really matter why they started or what perpetuates them, they are a genuine cancer that has helped kill original content, I hate everything about generals, but I don't see an effective way to prevent them happening that isn't either the board culture itself attacking it (as happened with namefagging) or mass bans, which probably won't work
>>729289623they existed before that site
>>729289680they didn't kill oc, the retards that get upset at oc killed ocyou have completely warped view
>>729289553>we should ban people for not being right-wingtourist moment
I was in this fucking thread somehow I still remember it. I miss all of it. Not out a sense of nostalgia but out of actually wanting to play these games with other people again and posting on 4chan with that humor and type of people again.Third worlders, schizos and incels just aren't the same.
>>729289110unc is already mainstream retard
>>729289646No, you're a revisionist dipshit trying to pretend reality is something elsemaybe /a/ had some kind of "proto generals" I don't give a fuck, for the first 10 years of 4chan's life you would not see "general thread: lets put all discussion in this one thread" with 20 different generals like some kind of fucking subreddit. That quite literally did not happen, no matter what bullshitting and gaslighting you try to do.>>729289739shut the fuck up retard
>>729289584Cry about it, faggot. Your kind ruined this site. People can't have real discussions anymore.>>729289662Wojaks aren't OC.
>>729289662raidfags were kicked out because they were hated and people generally agreed that they were cancer.
>>729289804They were kicked out because they were attracting law enforcement and lawyers and moot didn't want the heatit had absolutely nothing to do with what people thought of raidfags
>>729289757Yes, so mainstream, definitely not a forced meme.
>>729289794>general threads didn't exist until 2014 This is the person calling you a newfag revisionist.
>>729282564All these replies were written by 41 year-old software engineers btw.
>>729289794just because it didn't have general in the op doesn't mean it wasn't one an "anime of the week" thread is exactly what you are describing but without the word general>harem anime thread>cgdct thread>translation threadgenerals in all but name the way you describe them
>>729289828No, I was actually there, moot was vocal about how he hated them and the general consensus is that they were faggots who shat up the site. It had nothing to do with legal nonsense.
>>729289680I mean, whatever your or anyone's opinion on generals are, I feel like they're not exactly the worst threads at this pointI'd want /ksg/ to live forever before I kept a twitter screencap thread
I'm going to be bold and say certain generals are the some of the only good threads left on the site because they're somewhat insulated from the outer cancer eating up 4chan.
>>729289887Still wasn't generals, people just posted shit on a similar topic and often there were 5 or 6 of the same kind of threads up at once instead of 1 thread. /tg/ always had that with warhammer threads but each one would be subtly different- something about space marines, another about dreadnoughts specifically, another on some elfdar story or some warhammer artfag threadjust because they were all about warhammer didn't make them 'generals' they had specific topics to talk aboutwhich is what generals do not do, they just collate all discussion into one thread and then all the interesting stuff never sees the light of day to a casual browser.
>>729289828>Not your personal armywas a phrase for a reason, you know
it's not the generals faults that mods and shitposters try to push all discussion of something into a single thread, them existing does not stop you from making a random thread about thier topic, it happens all the time on /v/ now and the only people who don't like it are the ones who just hate whatever it is and don't want to see it so they parrot >>>/vg/ generals hurr durr and spam reports until a mod 404s the thread
>>729282897jews, niggers, and retards came to 4chan.
>>729289293Some generals, especially if they have a suffiscient population can be great, like scaled down versions of boards. However their small size means a single sufficiently unemployed asshole can make it terrible. If jannies actually did anything it would better.
>>729282897That lingo changed by 2006, people who typed like that and used tripcodes were already considered faggots and cringe.If you want an explanation, it was the Something Awful migration that made that kind of online behavior unacceptable.
>>729289994both types of threads happened back then, and those are generals that were along side the random thread about the same topic
>>729287441I'm still always polite and always have been for the 20 years I've used 4chan. I don't irony post either. People still genuinely engage with my posts and reply. You just have to ignore the retarded posts and 4chan is still largely the same.
>>729282897The world got worse.
>>729289994>Still wasn't generalsEat shit and die
>>729290042it's the tacit acceptance of generals, they have only been a net negative for board culture and original contentpeople see a general and they immediately think "oh I should post about it here instead of making a new thread" and that is actually what you should NOT do on an imageboard, as that actually detracts from original content and fun discussions. It's made worse because now you also get these fucking wannabe jannies who barge into a thread going "you should be posting this in the general" and going off like autistic retards because you didn't put stuff in the 'proper' box that their retard brain says you should have.
>>729289804/i/ produced the most lulzworthy shit this site ever did
>>729290143And it's much better to get you barging in the thread acting like a wannabe jannie? Which 4chan cop should I be rooting for here?
>>729290169/i/ was not a 4chan board
>>729288598Literally every autistic loser no life tranny that has absolute no self esteem and value for life can become a janny or mod in this shit hole while providing all data about themselves and gladly working for fucking free or being paid by X corporation/politicians to help promove or suppress something.This site is Motherfucking DEAD and it's only good to shitpost or piss off some nigger.If this site rangebanned India and others SEA countries, this entire "unc" thing would fucking disappear very fast. But this will never happen because (((they))) paid people to let this damn site be this way. There's only chaos.
>>729282564BASED
All a "General Thread" is, is a thread for people to discuss general things about the topic of the thread. All threads can become a general thread if people gravitate to the thread to discuss different things about the topic, and many threads are that without using the word "General"They do not preclude people from making other threads about a more focused point on that topic
>>729282897no? I must be seeing ghosts then, because I see those mouthbreathers in every other thread
>>729282897>what happened90 iq idpol faggots, twitter immigrants and trump shills
>>729290253yea maybe in a fucking vacuum. on here its like a designated toilet for the schizophrenic only. some niggers are on a 10 year plight to destroy all discussion of some games
>>729282897>all the replies to this to the tune of "There are minorities everywhere you just can't see them and I need to spam slurs constantly... because... I just do, okay?"lol. it really is a problem that exists in their heads that they feel compelled to vent about at all times. how hard is it to just post without it?
What we need is a genuine vow taken by 4chan posters. It's voluntary but purely that vow being out there and known is enough to improve quality>I shall never ironypost>I shall argue in good faith>If I don't like or can't contribute to a discussion I shall leave the threadJust these things alone would improve things a lot. Note I never said anything about shit posting, off-topic or even bait/image spam. Because those things aren't the real issue. It's the layers of irony and bad faith behavior.I already follow these rules myself and I notice it usually gets appreciated by other like-minded anons. It's not like this place gets a lot of influx from other places anymore it's mostly a dwindling community so it should be possible for us to have a self-imposed code like this.
>>729290143your whole post and outlook is blaming the wrong thingpeople only post in a general if they don't have something they want to make a full thread about, take hgames for an examplepeople still make threads about individual hgames here even with a general because they want to discuss a particular gamethe same happens with other games, with people making threads about a particular topic to focua on about the gamethe issue ia the mods forcing people to use a general if too many threads about a game are made and shitposters shitposting if they think that as well
>>729282346One thing not noted is how much slower the board is (threads can stay up for days), and that inherently allows for more quality discussion.
I personally hate the general rule because the mods use its existence to kill off vidya discussion on /v/ they personally don't like. And then they have the audacity to complain that people don't talk about video games on /v/.
>>729290204*facepalms* yes it was newfag...
>>729289738Generals are partly responsible for overall death of culture of this place as a whole, mostly by siphoning all the people interested in specific things away from the larger sphere into one place effectively removed from it.The big part of what made 4chan what it was back in the day is the anything goes attitude, as back before catalog was a thing people would just randomly browse pages and could find interesting shit they didn't know about and engage with subjects and people they don't usually interact with, leading to more or less homogenized culture across the board. The existence of generals undermines that principle, as everyone interested in subject X will just go to the subject X thread and ignore the rest of the board. I've been to some generals and they usually have their own little ecosystem with local memes and culture that never really leave the confines of their threads. Of course there were other factors, but I'd say popularization of generals caused significant damage to the site, although I also think it was an inevitable development one way or another.
>>729290364Generals or not you still have those people trying to destroy discussion of something they don't like. Look at what happened with Elin when it released last year, it had no general and yet it faced the same schizo shit until the mods started banned threads because too many makes it a general and it belongs on /vg/ now.
>>729290191I'm giving reasoned and structures arguments for why generals suck ass and all people need to do is start taking my advice to heart and post outside the generalsIt's already the case anyway that a lot of generals are just 2 or 3 autists posting in it 24/7 by themsleves just to keep it from dying while not actually discussing anything of worth, just because they can't stand the idea of the board not having their topic up. (Which is also a big part of why I see a lot of them as just advertising threads, because thats quite literally what they walk talk and act like)The general behaviour and thinking of the autists that keep talking about the exact same thing day after day in the exact same literal copy pasted thread, is toxic to good board culture and especially original content. It's antithetical to the purpose of an imageboard with 10 pages and post limits where discussions only last a few hours or days. If you want a forum - then go to a fucking forum instead of an imageboard. Generals do not belong on imageboards, they simply don't. They suck the life out of discussions, they get policed by wannabe jannies and sometimes actual jannies who only want certain things to be discussed certain ways, they hide cool ideas in a thread where 2% of the board population will ever see it, they are just straight fucking bad for the site. Don't participate in them, don't post them.If you want to talk about something, just make a thread with a cool picture about it and if people like it you'll get repliesthat's what imageboards are about, that's what keeps cool discussions and content flowing and that's the lifeblood that generals threads have been strangling
>>729290445This oldfag larp is the most autistic shit ive seen. You're probably younger than the website that you've formed a cargo cult around.
>>729290448people still browse the catalog and make oc, the rabid schizos that attack oc and anything fun are the problem
>>729290384If you want a vow of civility, why wouldn't you just use Reddit? I was on Reddit when 4chan was down, and it sounds like exactly what you want. Do you know that place exists?
>>729290496XD this newfag thinks im a newfag. if i was an newfag would i know this: "we are anonymous we are legion we do not forgive we do not forget expect us."
>>729290430>certain game/topic isn't allowed to have ANY threads regardless of frequency or topic or any other factor, simply existing is an offense>meanwhile certain other games/topics are free to have as many threads as they want with no harassment and are in fact protected (you will be banned for reporting them/disrupting them in any way)fags who do this shit need to be demodded
>>729290492The only general on /v/ that fits this and needs to be deleted is the dall-e thread, but too bad it will never be deleted, so why even pretend generals are a problem if you aren't going to name the literal only problem?
>>729290492everything you just posted applies to /v/ overall
>>729290580It's an oldfag thing. Blue boards used to be more like the screencap in op. L
>>729290430part of the problem was people spamming 30 threads on the exact same topicwhen that happens everyone starts asking that it gets put in 1 thread, not 30 threads of spamthat's the other side of the problem from generals - retards spamming about whatever topic du jour to the point its drowning everything else out and pushing good threads off the board
>>729288474>>729288706yeah, now if you want to attentionwhore on 4chan you just post the same thread every single day or go into threads and force memes where you just namecall in the most obnoxious way possible to derail threads.the average namefag and tripfag was not this bad, truly.
>>729290618>Blue boards used to be more like the screencap in op.Thank you for telling me, even though I was here. Those times will never ever come back because the demographics of 4chan changed, and there are different people using the website now. No rules will bring old 4chan back.
>>729290618Go do your oldfag thing back on the subredit, no need to bother with us anymore
>>729282564>announcing sageA samefag and a retard, who would've guessed
>>729290609That general is manager-protected, that's why it'll never be killed off.
>>729282346>actually fairly normal conversationwhat happened..
>>729290639It's funny you say that because Smash roster threads were spammed like that but they didn't get that treatment because they are a cultural phenomenon
>>729290580Because reddit is a hive mind where you can't speak your mind without your post being hidden.This isn't about civility either. It's about not being ironic and not arguing in bad faith. You can still be hostile and call other niggers, trannies all you want as long as you say something you genuinely believe in, instead of being ironic.
>>729290580Reddit is not a civil place. It's filled with cattier idiots. Even if you mean well and accrue positive karma from actually discussing things, it's an annoyance generator whenever you disagree with the hivemind.I made one once to discuss a particular game and once that time had passed I got too fed up with the amount of genuine idiots. I would even take the irony-poisoned idiots over genuine idiots because at least I could give the clowns the benefit of the doubt.And I could still call a spade a spade, and a faggot a faggot without their assholes puckering in a fit while they get on their alts to report me to the reddit suicide hotline or whatever.I can close a thread here and totally forget about it if it was shit and some schizo is spamming at me. Having an account means the mentally-deranged start spamming annoyances in notifications or DMs.Being civil on 4chan means something. Being civil on reddit is cuck behavior when you should be a passive-aggressive bitch 24/7, fuck the discourse with actual morons. They are genuinely lesser humans. I don't want to see my feed flooded with useless feedback whether it's sucking my dick or trying to fuck my ass. It's all gay shit.
>>729290738Everyone knows it and it's just fine, there's nothing to be done about it, someone should do something.
Where's the antagonism?The greentexting?Everyone calling each other a nigger faggotroon?Where's this unc slop kino bullshit? Eceleb nonsense?The shilling, countershilling and schizoing about shills?Politics?'jaks and frogs that have been overused and unchanged for over 15 fucking years?How did we get here
>>729290738When Uma threads tried to take their threads hostage during the still ongoing targetted mod harassment campaign against that game, they spent hours surgically removing all posts that weren't from their little clique, if it wasn't obvious before it was definitely obvious then that it is highly guarded by someone high up on the mod team
>>729290748It's a mystery. We'll never know what happened.*trips on the post i made that shows what happened*>>729283194
>>729282897us posters, for starters
>>729290646the whole internet's been shitted up by 3rd worldersboth from mass immigration of them and from their shitholes finally getting the internet. India alone adds something like 30 million new internet users every year or something. Which is basically 1 entire european country (or even 2-4) and these indians have an average IQ around 70-80. That's before you even get to the rest of the world.We are absolutely flooded with these people now, even if only a tiny percent can read/write english and find a place like this it's still pushing the numbers heavily 3rdie instead of white
>>729289623lol retard, generals started so people could discuss Pokemon dpp
>>729290662>No rules will bring old 4chan backi disagree, when the hack happened the vtuber fans moved to a different site with moderation that actually does their job and the threads have never been better, the ones who did nothing but shitpost left after realising they were just going to keep getting instantly banned
>>729290897You mean Katawa Shoujo
>>729290430>post something that doesn't break any rule but triggered a tranny janny>3 days or 1 month banned for "spam" or low quality post "Dogshit administration that's biased as hell. Yeah I've seen people being banned for wanting to get rid of the retard trashing threads with offtopic crap. Fuck them
>>729290934Well, if you believe in rules so much then make it your life goal to become a moderator on 4chan. I hate rules, so I just wait until you're all gone. I hope you're ready to spend the rest of your life here.
>>729283185all the normie oldfags left to create families, us turbo autist oldfags left on 4chan didnt have enough power to fend off shareblue after the 2016 elections, especially because younger anons are tech-illiterate morons who listen to what corporations tell them>>7292833642004 hereno, i will not leaveyes, i will continue to call you all faggotscry about it
>>729290934that's more in favor of have actual moderation
>>729282346>2004 was 21 years agoSay it ain't so...
>>729291026*having
>>729282897>What made /v/ or 4chan lingo as a whole to change that hard?years of memes and irony posting will do that>>729282897>/pol/branded buzzwords, what happenedpeople just wanted to play video games
>>729283364i have been here for over 20 years at this point>>729284040i am in there, those threads do have an old vibe
>>729291026you can't moderate this place without creating mentally ill no-life retards like shartythe people that do nothing but shitpost here actually think it is a reasonable response to start spamming gore and CP if they get told "no" and then you are stuck in an eternal game of whack-a-mole with people who have more time on their hands to destroy this site than mods trying to keep it togetherThe only actual way to stop them from posting is to not reply to their garbage, but there is now so many of them here that they can just reply to each other and keep going without needing input from real peoplejust look at how many flavors of console wars they've created and it is guaranteed replies every time
>>729290871putting aside the utter lack of proof that ebil spooky third worlders are responsible for all the low quality posts, you racists are shitposters too. what have you contributed? you people go into threads and namecall at nauseum and... what does that accomplish? "tranny tranny brown kys kys brown sir needful" like what are you even doing? why do you people do it every day all the time?
>>729290748>>729290843Forum culture was never anonymous like chans, in that it required an email or some form of subscription.This way the admins and mods could easily control information by just banning user accounts. Forums in a more wild-west internet era were mostly vanity pieces for their faggot owners, or some kind of shill system.This created a circle jerk effect where only people aligned with the forums mod's could discuss a topic and where there are isolated pockets like that there attention whores trying to become king faggot of that community.When 4chan dropped it was the first time the internet didn't "get" what they were looking at and treated it like other forums. After like a year and a half, disgruntled faggots from other websites realized it was a place free of the issues of other forums.So the tripfaggot attention whore reaching to become king shit had no real power and everyone was free to mock them, with for the most part freedom from admin-side content policing or bias.It also helped that moot was like 17 and could hardly moderate his own website, so people were free to do practically anything anyway. 4chan's volatility came from a sort of collective hazing strip down the arrogant forum faggot and get him to share only his ideas, not his forum credentials. OP was ALWAYS a faggot by default, he could never be "cool trendy cool guy who's king of this board m'kay?".
>>729290859I've noticed that AI, Nintendo praising, and Tencent affiliated, as well as BLACKED, /pol/, cuck threads stay up during burger/leaf hours the most. But that umathread? The game that won mobile game of the year? The cultural phenomenon (I'm looking at you Abib)? Nope, can't have that. Daddies Jinping and Goldbergsteinblat are paying me to ensure those threads go away.
>>729291206>muh cultural phenomenonEveryone is tired of shills
Until Dall generals get deleted, there's no reason to give a fuck
>>729291183>you racists are shitposters too. what have you contributed?I contribute the same thing you do: Posts on 4chan. If you don't like my posts, why don't you post in another thread? This is how much of the board I'm in. Why did you enter this specific thread to cry about racists? You don't even like yourself.
>>729283194>complaining about 'muh browns' when it's /pol/trash like you constantly smearing shit all over the walls and yourselvesFuck off, retard.
>>729291182You can do a lot to curb them; range ban certain regions, implement a Proof of Work system that can't be easily bypassed, are some things that could help
>>729291246not everything is shills
>>729290934that happened on 8ch too, where they actually went and started banning all the leftist woke posters who always argued in bad faith, made up revisionist bullshit, antagonized everyone, and just shit everything up with essentially just troll threads because it was the 'racist frogposter place'; it wasn't leftism itself that was the problem but the kind of person who wasn't there to actually have a discussion at all, only there to cause problems.the 8ch mods on the big boards, at least while it lasted, didn't play pretend that they were letting an unachievable free speech exist, they actively worked to remove all the shitheads that were shitting their boards up so that everyone could actually discuss in peace, and it worked, and it achieved a higher amount of free speech than letting the toxic people continue to shit everything up. Post quality skyrocketed with jannies actually doing their jobs properly. (worth noting: 8ch had user created and moderated boards, it wasn't up to 8ch staff to moderate it all, boards effectively moderated themselves and people could create new boards if they wanted - self correcting system, imo)The problem here is, half the jannie team on 4chan are now the type of people who should be getting banned from 4chan. They don't do proper moderation - which is to keep discussion civil. You'll very often see someone openly antagonizing and baiting political replies with something outlandish and then jannies remove all the posts replying to that person. The moderation here when it exists is absolutely retarded, so the only time you actually get decent discussions are when the mods AREN'T involved. The best boards are the ones that are the LEAST moderated as a result of that incompetence, rather than the ones that are the most moderated.
>>729291384>The best boards are the ones that are the LEAST moderated as a result of that incompetence, rather than the ones that are the most moderated.That's why I think it's laughable that people cry about 4chan needing moderation. What if the wrong people are in charge? Better to kill everyone who can ban you.
>>729291182>you can't moderate this place without creating mentally ill no-life retards like shartyLack of proper moderation is what breeds those retards like plague. But that is, proper moderation, when mods actually make it clear what's allowed and what isn't, instead of being shady motherfuckers and enforcing rules almost at random. I'd say a few public bans would've done a lot more work than years of "fighting in shadows" or whatever they're currently trying to do, because it would send a clear message to everyone, not just culprit, and allow people to laugh at the idiot further demotivating him to be an idiot again.
>>729282346>tfw I'm in that imageI should probably feel some kind of shame but I don't>>729282709I'm almost 40...
>>729290897Reminds of /vp/'s creationGod I miss old /vp/
>>729291262>If you don't like my posts, why don't you post in another thread?racist shitposters are ubiquitous and this seemed like one of the rare threads I might get a slightly good faith back and forth with one>Why did you enter this specific thread to cry about racists?nevermind, no hope there>You don't even like yourself.bizarre projection and nonsequitor?
>>729291463If they publicly ban'd someone, they'd have to go back on that rule tomorrow, because now their friend was the one breaking it.
>>729291493You showed up here to argue, then? I'm filtering this thread. I didn't have a second thread open. 90% of this board is automatically filtered at all times. Enjoy each other's company.
>>729282564Based nephew
>>729291384Pretty much nailed it
>>729291361reddit told me everyone that disagree with wokeism is a russian/indian shill
Reddit today is closer to 2007 /v/ than today's /v/ could hope to be
>>729291463the mods arent incompetent they are actively malicious, the hack showed that
>>729291361Perhaps, but it's a denial of reality to think shills don't exist.4chan albeit dying now, was one of the most popular websites on the internet, and certainly had outsized cultural relevance. You can absolutely bet your ass that big companies like microsoft, et al, are paying marketing firms to advertise their products in places like this. Word of mouth advertising has always been one of the most effective kinds, and they've developed specific nomenclature - guerrilla marketing - to explicitly describe infiltrating forums as 'actual' users in order to advertise products.All of this is KNOWN to happen.Why be incredulous about it happening HERE? It is frankly fucking obvious if you take 2 seconds to look at what sort of threads top particular boards and when. Take /g/ for example - I really think it's one of the most advertiser saturated boards. At least a quarter of their threads are "buy this product general", and you think people AREN'T shilling shit here?
>>729282897>all these /pol/tard replies>>729283443This is the actual answer. The average retard spamming jeet and nigger is a literal redditor. They are desperate to fit in and were told 4chan is the scary racist hacker website.
>>729291595Reddit is actually more like 2014 /v/ it's also a contrarian shit hole nowadays. Reddit is just 4chan but a few yours behind.
>>729291384>half the jannie team on 4chan are now the type of people who should be getting banned from 4chanmember how jannie applications opened a like a week after the us election last year?i member
>>729291595>>729291643you're both wrong, /v/eddit today is a lot like 2014 reddit
>>729291545folded instantly, damn. i genuinely feel bad for these people. they're in a hell of their own making.
>>729291643>Reddit is just 4chan but a few yours behindno, you get banned for having a contrary opinion therebut regarding posting style, sure
>>729291617saying not everything means not everything but some things may becalling every post that doesn't that call everything shit a shill is retardedit doesn't matter what actual shills are doing, all that accomplishes is making only negative discussion the allowed form of discussion
I can't believe people think Reddit is a good site for discussion when it's a content aggregation site. It's literally formatted like Youtube comments but for things that aren't just videos.
>>729291743>doesn't just call everything
>>729291463It gets back to what I said earlier about public bans (WITH the name of the banning admin/jannie) serving as a useful feedback loop for both posters AND moderators, it provides some ACCOUNTABILITYwhen you make shit bans, you start taking heat for it, that's GOOD, its useful information that lets you direct your moderation more appropriately along the lines of what users actually want to seeSimilarly when people see someone getting publically banned for being a fucking retard, they think "hey I guess maybe I won't be THAT kind of a retard"it's all a useful feedback loop and we got rid of it because jannies couldn't handle having their shit bans called out by the wider community they're moderating
>>729291786There really should be a ban log that shows who was banned for what and by whom
>>729291684hiro opened 2ch's moderation up to japanese political parties so they could police what people talked about, maybe it was also advertisers tooit was why he got ousted from that placeit would be pretty dumb to think he isn't doing the exact same thing he did there, but here nowI simply assume moderator positions on 4chan are sold off (or admins look the other way) to advertisers and political activism groups because thats what hiro did before and there's plenty of money and pressure for him to do it again and this is hence why moderation on 4chan is so bad
>>729291902https://4chan.org/banshuh that's weird when did they stop linking to the offending posts? the hack, i presume?
>>729291902that was actually another thing 8ch had; pretty sure it was global too you could see all bans across all boards
>>729291203While this is true, there were better moderated places. Of course, 4chan was born because SA sucked copious amounts of cock. But I've been in places that are around still today with a good number of its older members still around and fairly welcoming (though they're smaller and not popular). It depends on what kind of people you end up finding in charge. Of course I got banned by evaXephon (YandereDev) for telling him that a different older project of his had stolen assets. There's people that will never accept any criticism. But I also found a few places where the moderation was mostly decent, and when it wasn't, it got in trouble before I did, and got better.
>>729291959there's so little information in this it's equivalent to just "bans are happening"
>>729282897It's because 4chan leaned left.People insisting it's because it was all white western men aren't wrong, but it was additionally young adult white western men in the 2000s and those overwhelmingly leaned left.4chan lost its identity when it became more conservative and religious (and third world, but I repeat myself), because those things inherently don't align well with the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.And now instead of a fun place to shoot the shit everyone here is always miserable and hostile. Due to right wing politics.
>>729282897>retard wonders why dialect changes over timeAnyways, those have been common words since 2006, you're a retard.
>>729282897Because after 2008, people cannot be allowed to unite based on their interests, so any large online platforms turn into an Ouroboros with niggers and jeets who will ruin any discussion on cue.
>>729291786But get this, what if the moderation is bad on purpose and they don't want you to see it
>>729282564DELETE THIS NEPHEW...
>>729291734>you get banned for having a contrary opinion thereI get banned from here just for that all the time
>>729292039m8 people didn't simply 'become more conservative', the left leaned more left and everyone who was a leftist, like myself, got turned into a conservative overnightit should be, for example, patently obvious that billionaires profit off mass immigration as it lowers wages by increasing the supply of labor and even communists through the 1900s criticized scab labor usage by capitalists and yet you talk to a "liberal" today and they froth at the mouth and call you racist if you suggest sending thirdies back to their shitholes so we can have high paying jobs in our own fucking countrieswhat a "leftist" is today is a fucking rabid animal
>>729291959Yup>>729291983It is
>>729291959Happened sometime after the hackPresumably they removed it for the same reason they've removed everything else, having their feefees hurt when they get called out
>>729285841>>7292859324chan was not "founded" as an anime website, it was founded as a site to predominately share porn and shitpost.Anime posters were purely incidental, that's why /a/ was only made a month into the site's creation and why /a/ has generally been dead longer than it was ever actually alive.
>>729288474I legitimately believe that newfags just don't know how to namefag/tripfag, and that all the tripfags just died and took their secrets with them
>>7292870734chan was always anti-mainstream, that was the oldfag's politics, pissing off as many people as they could
>>729291480which one are you?
>>729292186Because the first board was "anime/random" and not "anime/manga"
>>729292186I'm personally amazed /a/ still has a good reputation amongst some anons considering it's been nothing but spic shonen generals and "I can't believe it's not a gacha general" moe gooner/roleplay threads for years now.
>>729292167>having their feefees hurt when they get called outI feel like you have to be retarded to believe this.The reason ban backlinks got removed is so that it wouldn't act as a hall of fame. They just only actually implemented it when they needed to do maintenance on the site. Same with removing the IP count, which was primarily used to shit-post and had no real function beyond that.
>>729292160>the left leaned more left and everyone who was a leftist, like myself, got turned into a conservative overnightLmao>yet you talk to a "liberal" today and they froth at the mouth and call you racist if you suggest sending thirdies back to their shitholes so we can have high paying jobs in our own fucking countriesSame as if you asked a liberal back then, then? Or did you forget we made fun of racists for being irrational? You complain about the left going further left yet you bring up communists when describing the 'good old days'. >what a "leftist" is today is a fucking rabid animalWhat this is is literally fascist rhetoric. Yeah buddy, you didn't change, the world did!See what a miserable hateful cunt you became now that you're conservative?
>>729292320The only reason IPs died is because the code broke and they can't be bothered to learn to fix it
>>729292126well no, that is exactly what's happenedthey know their moderation sucks ass, they know they're incompetent, even if they can't say it openly they internalize it and act as any malicious incompetent is wont to do in such a position - instead of changing their behaviour, they hide it from any scrutiny and blame all the users for everything as if they aren't the ones with the power to actually solve it4chan's moderation has been freely going to shit because there is no oversight no accountability and no scrutiny; there is no feedback loop pushing the moderation to improve, as such it can only be random or malicious over time and never directionally benevolent, and lo that is exactly what we seemoderation here was at its best when it was public and scrutinized with admins names attached and they actually gave a shit about having a good reputation for their bans
>>729292296Yeah, and moot clearly realized that was a mistake and created a containment board for anime.Here's what moot actually said in 2004.>I started 4chan when I was very bored, in need of porno, and wanted a cool email address (especially because I couldn't register pant.su :(). The immediate result was a cool 2chan clone that provided me with all such things, but a few unwanted side effects, the predominant one being ANIMU OTAKU KAWAII BAKA NEKOS-TAN-^______^-PYO-NYOs. Said people are complete wastes of human life and made running the site hell not only for me, but the original users (RH), and people like C_V and shut who tried to help with the burden. The end result was the site dying multiple times, with its final (READ: IT NEVER DIES) death on June 20th, 2004.>>729292318Nobody uses /a/ aside from the generals they frequent really, so the average /v/ user (who primarily uses /a/ for /dbs/ or /opg/) thinks it's a high quality board because it's like /a/ but "on topic", when in reality it's a shallow den for children to shitpost in.
>>729292351whatever retard, you're exactly the bad faith purposefully antagonistic woke lefty I talked about earlier. You ruin everything everywhere you go
>>729292361Yes, but I'm telling you: they don't want it to be "good" in the sense that you're talking about, because the whole point is not what you think it is. It's functioning as intended. It's not incompetence, but intentional malice. The feedback loop is the discourse shifting the way they want.
>>729292369strange you didn't link to his post
>>729283662normalfags? jej
>>729292473LARPers wouldn't be able to read it without paying the tollhttps://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=724028
>>729292470Pretty much. It's a very purposeful thing they are doing.
>>729292351Leftoids literally purge anyone who isn't with them from all of their sites. I don't understand why you also feel the need to come to places that don't reward censorship and bring your rhetoric here as well
>>729292470plausible conspiracy but if its true they're too little too late, they needed to do it 15 years ago; twitter's already essentially taken over what 4chan was doing now that musk bought it, and there's increasingly more decentralization taking place with activist groups beginning to form their own discord chats and "NGOs" so to speak.and while I don't think twitters moderation is particularly good, actual free speech (which is more like, peaceful moderated speech instead of screeching) is flourishing there while it struggles here
>>729292392Purposefully antagonistic? Perhaps a little. No more than this place always was. But bad faith? I was here for it, you know. 2005-6ish. Yes, I have moved further left since then. But -liberals- haven't. If anything they've gone to the right, and here you are complaining that you changed nothing but people just started calling you a conservative. Well, no, calling for all browns to be exported and calling leftists animals would've made Fox News blush, actually, in the time when this place was still firmly mocking Republicans and Christians as a matter of course. To pretend that you never changed, that's the bad faith of the conservative. And that's one of the reasons we used to mock you. You ruined this place for yourself and I'm the ghost of 4chan past to remind you of what you had before you became such a miserable twat. But you don't want to hear it so you pretend I'm automatically wrong for disagreeing with you.
>>729290384>>If I don't like or can't contribute to a discussion I shall leave the threadNo. This just leads to /vg/ hyper cancer generals whose shit posters eventually leak out to other places. You browse the whole board, you take it as it is, and if you think a thread doesn't belong on the board then you SHOULD make the OP and the retards in the thread aware that they're not welcomed. Like when someone posts a twitter screencap thread or whatever. That being said "don't feed the trolls" is also necessary. You call them faggots, you sage the thread and you move on, don't engage them until bump limit.
>>729292569See >>729292712
>>729282346Where are all the threads celebrating Christ's birth from back then?
>>729292713If you see a game you hate on the video game board then it's your problem, not the game's thread
>>729292774we forgot to take screenshots of those
>>729292712it also mocked scientology and atheists, why leave those out
i miss when this site was retarded & fun
>>729292470Why does /v/ need to invent entire conspiracies for why moderation sucks.The reason why it sucks is because nobody gives a shit about this board lol. Nothing good has ever come out of "moderating /v/", the last time that was attempted it resulted in a significant chunk of the userbase leaving, a wave of legal fears that could've ended the site entirely, everyone involved with upper management being doxx'd, and the owner leaving.And then /v/tards turn around and wonder "Why won't they do their job??">>729290384>>729290618This fucking "vow of civility" idea is not a 'blue board thing', it's an /a/ thing that everyone mocked and caused /a/ to die a slow and painful death. The only people who think that's a good thing are retards who think pic related isn't the most cringeworthy shit to ever be written by a human being that posts here.
>>729292712PS I haven't changed that much in all regards. I still think Republicans are dishonest liars. I still think religion is is for fools. I still think that if people want to fap to boys in skirts that's their prerogative. Honestly, 4chan was utterly degenerate by the standards of 4chan today. Still is, in many ways. So the real question is, why do conservatives come here to spread their rhetoric, when there's shitting dicknipples just one board over?And then we come back to the point, that the moderation on 4chan is utter shite, not conducive to actual good faith discussion, and the "free speech" it purports to serve is utopian at best, and a disingenuous pretext at worst.4chan became conservative because it fostered bad faith.
>>729292893Moderation is in a bad state site wide...
>>729292893>The only people who think that's a good thing are retards who think pic related isn't the most cringeworthy shit to ever be written by a human being that posts here.i would give anything to have autists who cared this much about the culture of the site back
>>729292951No it's really just the five most active boards, and even then, moderation hasn't actually changed in a decade. Everything is exactly the same as it was in 2015, it's just the few boards (like /v/) continue to get worse all on their own. No amount of moderation can fix a userbase issue.
>>729282897we got 10% cooler and 10% white
>>729292986>cared this much about the cultureNo, it was just people who wanted a safespace to circlejerk. They were mocked by every other board on the site when this was being passed around.
>>729292990you don't actually use the slower boards, huh
>>729282564toss that pigskin nephew
>>729282564Zoomposts are too long walls of text arguing some useless crap now. Unchan posts that were short and to the point.
>>729292873>scientologyAh, yes, that was briefly a thing I suppose. This one was actually contentious and held to be cringe by many people here, because the activists were seen as taking it too seriously, and that was the one mortal sin you could commit here. Kind of a sign of the times, I guess; everything had to be "ironic". >atheismThis was only after r/atheism became big, newfag.
traffic dropped site wide after the hack, including the smaller boardsmany people just didn't see a need to come back or found somewhere else to postwonder why
>>729293025They're exactly the same as they've always been
>>729292712>But -liberals- haven't. If anything they've gone to the rightthey really haven't even though I don't disagree with the main point of your post. I would say both sides have virtually eliminated any libertarian leanings they might have once had and "live and let live" is dead.e.g. I never cared if faggots want to take 300 pozzed loads in one night or trannies want to cut their balls off, but I want to be able to call them fags and trannies without repercussions. both sides will object to that stance for very different reasons these days.
>>729292893This is why I never liked /a/, posting there felt like posting on a faggoty forum ruled by a clique that cared more about mantaining the clique and hazing newfags than they did about the topic they were meant to discuss. And in the end, it didn't even help them, they got taken over by newfags anyway.
>>729293130i don't even come here anymore unless it's for special occasions like a new game i'm interested in releasing or something getting announced that i'm curious to see what people say about it. in any other normal day i just stay completely off this site for up to weeks on end with no desire to even check it out. it's just garbage. everything about it is dogshit and the majority people left discussing are genuinely mentally ill and schizophrenic.
>>729283364I'm still here, kek.
>>729292873>>729293105Also, it should not be assumed that when 4chan started mocking fedoras that they all became tradcath larpers overnight. This was the era where people popularly declared themselves "agnostic". I still got some infographic saved on my old pc from atheism vs. agnosticism threads on /r9k/ from 2009 or so.
>>729293193>they got fucked by modftfy
>>729292893>>729293020with long winded, condescending things like these it was really only a matter of time until bratty retarded posts like "boomer boomer unc" would crop up in reaction as the population aged. they don't want to play the game so they flip the table, and because it gets them precious attention they'll keep at it.>>729293193i think their annoying board culture stems from how stagnant the anime industry is
>>729289662All shartyfags do is just spam wojaks, tranny op pics, shitty buzzwords and bait threads to shit up the board. Overall pretty gay stuff.
>>729293250>thing no one assumed should not be assume
>>729293286Those are over 10-15 years old, anime wasn't stagnate then
>>729293151I think most liberals would begrudgingly accept your support even if you insist on being a dick about it
>>7292862944chan was always just irc with pictures then it became irc for retards>>729292893it is cringeworthy and childish but at the time most people were like this. Literally every anime 20 years ago had a Linkin Park AMV
other boards had the same kind of stuff
>>729282897iphone & ipad literally ruined everything.
>>729282346Bring back /l/
>>729292990moderation on slow boards is absolute dogshittake a look at /tg/ for example. Posting there is dropping off a cliff and it is wholly due to the moderator/admins there banning people left and right. It's a fucking ghost town now and that was one of the highest quality boards 4chan ever had. I stopped posting there myself because all the interesting threads kept getting fucking nuked and now every second thread there has some faggot baiting people into political posts to try and get anyone who takes it bannedmeanwhile the least moderated boards are maintaining relatively healthy post numbers and usersmore malicious moderation = death of activitysame thing has happened to reddit. The amount of posts and engagement has dropped off a cliff ever since they started banning everyone left and right for wrongthink
>>729293321Just pre-empting all those conservative "oldfags" who totally didn't change at all in any way since the time this place was full of liberal teenagers shitting on conservatives
>>729291278Go back to pedosky tourist troon
>>729292039>It's because 4chan leaned left.yes, what the left used to be.after occupy wall street it got turned into worshiping big corps because they dangle a pride flag in front of you and they also push migration to get cheaper labor.amazing how the current woke leftists don't see how they're being played
>>729293424Yeah, here's a similar screed from /vp/
>>729292747See >>729292569
>>729282897Kill yourself niggerlover.
>>729292893>Why does /v/ need to invent entire conspiracies for why moderation sucks.It's a conspiracy with a lot of good evidence behind it.Not strictly /v/ but within /vg/ the moderation there, janny or otherwise, is rampantly abused. If the janny doesn't like a general they would allow the worst most nonsensical schizo shit to live (to the point they didn't mind me telling them they fuck dogs repeatedly) but anything remotely on-topic to the general was temp-banned. It split the group up, ocfags started migrating to other random places like the tunnel jews, and no matter what version of the general was made it hemorhaged people and never got rid of its sperg and/or janny treatment.People sent feedback to all the channels they could (what little existed back then) and of course, nothing happened. Because that part is true, that "they don't give a shit," but moderation teams aren't a monolith so you get people that are negligent and allow misuse to avoid bigger commotion and you also get the petty people that will destroy and displace thread communities for very little reason.All I'll say is that it wouldn't surprise me if any board found themselves susceptible to these destructive tendencies, because I've seen it happen before on this website.
>>729292712>i have moved further left>if anything liberals have gone to the rightthat's how it would look to you who moved further left
>>729293589>after occupy wall street it got turned into worshiping big corps because they dangle a pride flag in front of youBro, literally no one is more critical of "corporate pride" than the people who made up Occupy. If there was a corporate psy-op here, *you're* the one affected.
>>729289064Fuck off back to pedosky /pol/whiner troon
>>729293626I saw it.
>>729293398believe me, they do not. I'm not so socially stunted that I can't go under the radar, but I see what people get purged for. let's leave slurs aside, even an opinion like "dating a trans woman makes you bi and there's nothing wrong with being bi" is anathema.there are still smaller places where normal people congregate, so I won't complain too much, but the mainstream web has gone to shit
>>729282564Faggot
>>729293703that's literally my pointthe left got hijacked by corporate pride to remove occupy from influence because it was a threat
>>729293590yup and /v/ did things like send birthday cards to devs
>>729293697No, that's an objective assessment; I know where both I and they stand relative to before. The same cannot be said for "former leftists" who insist they never changed yet hold opinions no leftist or liberal at the time did. I can be honest about my development. They can't, for some reason. And it prevents them from accurately assessing not just where they stand on the political spectrum, but the political spectrum as a whole. Basically, they filter everything through the lens of their subjective feelings.
>>729293802But the left is not corporate pride. The left are the ones who got sidelined. And now corporate pride has you hating the left. Like, yes, we know it's a hollow performance and that corporations are bad. Why are you not just telling me that like it's news to me, but then also holding it against me?
>4chan's still the only place where you can just bullshit with people with no signup, no name, no history and talk about shit you're not allowed to say anywhere else.>onlywrong
>>729286010mIRC...
>>729293914>But the left is not corporate prideit has been for the the past 10 years or so, at least the main part of the american left>>729293914>Why are you not just telling me that like it's news to me, but then also holding it against me?i just stated how things are, you decided to take offense when i mentioned "woke leftists" for some reasoni didn't say "leftists"
>>729283061That's Tyrone christopher poleat the real guy who invented image boards. Hes went to Japan and started it all. Christopher Poole is just a stand in they hired cos the white man cant stand the black achieving anything.
/v/ is shit because the users are shitthe users are shit because the internet is shitthe internet is shit because everything has an expiration date
>>729294060>i didn't say "leftists">>729293589>the current woke leftistsBrevAnyway I gotta head to Christmas lunch with the folks. But my point still stands, and I don't think anyone can deny it: 4chan got worse as it got more conservative. *Even* if you want to say that that's only relative to the political landscape shifting around us. The end result is still: 4chan is now a conservative website, and a shit, unfun, srs bsns website.
>>729282897Gamer gate ruined everything. Everyone was happy. Theres that random racism busy mostly no one care about anything and people were fuckong happy then those lunatics started gamer gate. I hope they all burn in hell for what they did. Female protags were not seen as the way they are seen today. It is so bad now.
>>729293703that's the point he's makingOWS was a good thing, I was all for it (a "lefty" of the time), and then the system conspired to destroy it, and they brought in psychological warfare, and it took the form of modern woke - put the white men leading things at the bottom, push the minorities and women to the top, mire the protests in useless pointless discussions (but what about the feelings of the indigenous blah blah), redirect anger at the banking system into anger at sexuality and race, divide everyone, diversify the movement, etc.and voila, it dissolved, the white men were run out, the minorities and women took over, and they got fuck all done. It went nowhere. Even the tea party was 1000x more successful.And the psych warfare never stopped, it ramped up, and I'm sorry to say but this >>729292946 is someone who got absolutely mindfucked by the very system he thinks he's railing against.Being a leftist used to mean exposing the corruption, making life better for americans, tearing down tyrannical systemsand now being a leftist means hiding the corruption, making life worse for americans, and protecting tyrannical systemsThe mainstream media are institutions that lie to you and manipulate you, nothing a journalist says is ever true, everything in print is carefully designed to fuck with you psychologically. If you keep letting those vipers into your head they'll have you cutting your own dick off and applauding children performing strip teases at pride parades before you know what the fuck has even happened.A "leftist" today believes in nothing more than the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of white people now, whether they realize that or not.I saw this shit coming, apparently I have a common sense super power, too many of my friends didn't and now their dicks are limp, they're on HRT, none have children, a couple of them got AIDS, and they're all fighting to kill every white person in the country off. That's modern "leftism" now.
>>729294235>Brevit seems you are completely unable to understand the meaning of my post
>>729294219Could be the mods blocking threads. We had low key fun threads about subject matter related to video games but not related video games. It all changed after our mods were infiltrated by other groups. Reading about how zoe Quinn's friends were moss here and that horrible woman Isabella Jankie use to be mods on 4chan she would get cp and resell it to people. Some of the mods should be watched
>>729294275Bro, you want mindfucked, look in the mirror We are not enemies but god damn, the irony
>>729294275>I have a common sense super powerMe? I have the super power of being able to notice patterns.They hate that.
you faggots are so fucking boring holy shit
>>729283364I've been here for nearly 16 yearsI'm only 30
>>729294275>hiding the corruption, making life worse for americans, and protecting tyrannical systemsisn't that what republicans are doing right now lol
>>729294463it's what both parties have been doing forever
>>729288540we need to kill all the irony-poisoned (You)fishers
Didn't know namefaggotry was the norm back then
>>729294337I found one of those "low key fun threads" just last week and it was mostly roleplaying.It just requires people to not derail and honestly it's a miracle it even happened. It'll probably be at least another few years before I see something like that again.
>>729294426I'm sure instagram or tiktok is more your speed, lil gup
>>729294283Ah, I see the misguided distinction you were making. "Woke" is a meaningless buzzword and useless in political discourse or analysis so I didn't register it. And now that I have, it still doesn't tell me what you're actually trying to say lol
>>729294275>A "leftist" today believes in nothing more than the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of white people now, whether they realize that or notYeah man it's a good thing you're immune to propaganda lol
>>729294337long, long ago, I've concluded that it isn't simply women, but lonely pussy starved white knights are the real enemy. I may have been on 4chan for 20+ years, but I can proudly day that I've never been THAT pathetic
Remove images, trips, post numbers and anything that schizos can use to build up their identity around. Just leave fucking plain text.
>>729294275>I was all for it (a "lefty" of the time), and then the system conspired to destroy it, I feel somewhat the same way. However, the speed and ease with which the left was hijacked with after OWS was a sign that it never had any real substance to it.>A "leftist" today believes in nothing more than the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of white people now, whether they realize that or not.It has always had that undercurrent. Go read about the shit the left said after the brutal race riots of 1992 in LA.
>>729294556i see now why you were triggered by that word
>>729294717Text boards used to be a thing, they died a long while back
>>729294753I see why you desperately need to believe you "triggered" someone, because you resort to buzzwords rather than substance
>>729294275>A "leftist" today believes in nothing more than the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of white people now, whether they realize that or notI've never known anyone to say this who did not, himself, desire the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of all non-whites. And, unlike the left presumably, they're not usually coy about it. So, turnabout is fair play innit
Someone is really hungry for that (you)
>>729294871>No UReally?
>>729294789you obviously decided "woke leftists" was an attack on you for some reason, so it seems like that's what it did
>>729294980>Unlike>presUmably>UsUally>aboUt>tUrnaboUtThere's plenty of U here bro
>>729282897We used to be majority Native English speakers, now but unlike Jap forums where they have IP bans, there are no IP bans here for certain countries.Those countries have flooded 4chan (and other English speaking parts of the internet) without learning to lurk, and just diarrhea dumping their third world culture on the rest of us.In short, we got colonised by the third world and the mods/ Admins did nothing to protect our borders.
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>>729282564Whyd I laugh at this
>>729294406For the most part, yesdid you think I'm a republican for some reason? Buddy the US is a sort of oligarchy where both parties are preying on the general publicTrump is kind of doing his own thing, to mixed success, you can see how much the system/uniparty/whatever the fuck hates his guts, and leftists everywhere have taken that up to levels of utter derangement, completely blind to everything else going on.>>729294608Well see, that is something I've noticed is different about me compared to the average leftist today. I know that I am NOT immune to propaganda. I understand how the brainwashing works- the way it's seeped in through carefully crafted stereotypes in movies and television and advertisements; little assumptions you never even think to question. It works in the same way you see a car explode in 20 different movies and assume a car will explode in real life. It works through censorship preventing you hearing opposing viewpoints, it works through manufacturing consensus to make you feel singled out if you disagree, it works through purposefully fed catchy slogans you dont really understand, it works through 4 years of rigorous study in race and sexuality at a proper university teaching you all the proper science from proper authority figures who know what they're talking about and all the newspapers and tv experts agree.If you never question any of that, if you don't critically examine and reassess your beliefs and their beliefs, and whether there's actually an ulterior motive, if you let an authority figure, an institution, simply tell you what's true and trust that to be true and think that "no, I cannot be brainwashed - I'm informed, I watch the news, I listen to the people who know more things than me and I trust them", then sorry pal, it already happened. You're brainwashed.Stop letting other people do the thinking for you, and start doing it yourself. Figure out what it means YOURSELF. From as first principles as you can make it.
>>729287441Realistically, without anything drastic (like proper moderation that does its job), no. There's one way to have posts without irony, without "bix nood" speak and to actually engage: YouI know the saying "be the change you want to see" is overused but who else can be polite and discuss if not you? Eventually someone is going to reply and actually engage with you.Like >>729290118 said, ignore them and suddenly they don't matter. Eventually your mind will be trained to completely unsee them.
>>729282709Old enough to fuck your underaged boypussi silly.
>>729294871NTA but I wholeheartedly believe the left, whether willingly or obliviously, are aiming to displace and disenfranchise whites. Even after all of Trumps retarded shit, the useful idiot part of the left simply cannot reconcile that it is some of their views that helped get him there. And before you call the ethnic cleanser card on me, the only race I hate is Indian, and only recently has that started.
>>729295145Jesus fucking christ look at the difference in percentage between phone and desktop usersNo wonder this site is dead
>Back when *I* called myself a leftist, and conservatives said we wanted to kill and enslave the white race, that was obviously a fringe racist lie>As well as every time they said the same thing over the past century or two>But *this* time they're actually right!>Because the left is so propagandised, you seeHmm, yes, fascinating
>>729294553instagram and tiktok are closer to the spirit of 4chan than nu4cuck is. you're all a bunch of disaffected redditors posting shit nobody gives a fuck about or wants to see. you fags have no self awareness over why this site is dead
>>729295064I literally just explained to you that I didn't even register the word, so obviously the part that addresses me is "leftist"
>>729295204Lotta words to explain you think tou haven't been propagandised lolThe proof is in the pudding. You're a fringe conspiratard telling me what I really believe despite myself. Someone did a real number on you.
>>729295394that's a (you) problem
>>729295374All of those posts in your picture are the same you just have stupid pictures under them.>you're all a bunch of disaffected redditors posting shit nobody gives a fuck about or wants to see. you fags have no self awareness over why this site is deadLike you are right now?
The left in my view is basically full train ahead globalism, so in my view they are inherently evil just for being as pro globalist as possible. The idea of losing identity from your nation state, the wealthy being stateless identities that will freely move their wealth across the earth, offshoring, mass immigration, dilution of the hosts countries majority culture etc is in my view very evil and I will vote against the left for eternity because their basis in the modern day hinges on Globalism, the right does too as well but the left wants to push it a lot further. To me it is the eventual failure of Liberal Democracy. Most leftists will call me all sorts of buzzwords for pointing this out and that's okay, you are evil so I don't care. The right is evil too, just the evil that will give me a world I prefer.
>>729295374The thoughts of a sharteen are worthless
>>729294871I do not give a shit about them living in africa, india, china, saudi arabia, whatever. Go live and be happy there.However, these are my homelands. This is my people's country. It's not everyones' country. It's MY country. For my people and my children, the same as they have india or syria or libya or nigeria. And I am seeing the proportion of my people in my country being reduced from 100% to nearly 60% now.That is ethnic cleansing. It is driving towards genocide.And if it continues another 20 years, it will be 30% or 40% white vs 60% or 70% non-white, and then these people will simply kill me and my people, and that is genocide.And I know they will, because every day I see them already killing my peopleAnd I hear them talking and telling me they will take my country and kill my peopleEven a portion of MY OWN PEOPLE look at me and tell me it's NOT ok to be white (genocidal rhetoric), and that if I want to remigrate these invaders back to where they came from, then *I* am the "ethnic cleansing genocider" and so even this portion of MY OWN PEOPLE is telling me they want to destroy my country, kill me, and kill themselves.This isn't some kind of "turnabout", they go back peacefully, I get a country for my people, we are all happy.Nobody needs to die, so please do not push this to the point that people start dying.Because I am not just going to acqueisce when I already know the outcome is my death and my people's death down the path you want to see.You can stop at any time. You can turn around. You can stop pushing for the genocide of my people.But you wont', and while you are gnashing your teeth trying to kill me, blaming me for how hateful and genocidal you've become, I will be fighting and defending my people and my future.
>The idea of losing identity from your nation state, the wealthy being stateless identities that will freely move their wealth across the earth, offshoring, mass immigration, dilution of the hosts countries majority culture etc is in my view very evil and I will vote against the left for eternity because their basis in the modern day hinges on Globalism, the right does too as well but the left wants to push it a lot further. To me it is the eventual failure of Liberal Democracythis desu
>>729295570for>>729295528
>>729295531doesn't matter what you think. in reality your opinions are worth less than a 15 year old nigger's opinion on instagram simply because you're unoriginal and boring
>>729295641But they are also unoriginal and boring
>>729295469>despite myselfwhat did he mean by this
>>729295528Trump won partially because of the mass immigration point
>>729283364i've been here way longer than the oldfags when they were being called oldfags in 2011 and im only 26which is why annoying anti-zoomer bullshit like this >>729283227 makes me roll my eyes
>>729295742>2011>oldfagReads like parody
>>729295528>>729295570true, the only solution is the liberation from the system of exploitation that causes the conditions that leads to mass migration in the first place. no imperialist wars, no meddling, and people won't be fleeing their homelands en masse.
>>729295528Globalism is good
>>729295829you're too retarded to understand my post
>>729295641>>729295374There are definitely some posts and shorts that are fun and soulful on those sites, but guess what, we had the "boring" and that, at one point. In fact, you got at least half of your shit from us in the first place. The only thing you are correct about, lil zoom, is that niggers here don't know how to have fun anymore. And there are some good, and some retarded reasons for that, but you'll just dismiss that as boring
>>729295886Oh I could read it just fine, reread it again, put on the context hat
>>729295886No he did
>>729295857my man they are not fleeing anything, most of the refugees literally vacation in the places they're "fleeing" fromthey're economic migrants, they're imported by capitalists as scab labor to reduce costs, they're imported by leftists because they vote left and provide useful meat for NGO fraud networksthey are not fleeing anything, they are being imported. These people could not figure their way out to a neighbouring country on their own. Big money is being spent to bring them here.
>>729295550Bro, again, the only genocidal rhetoric here is yours. >If we become a mere plurality rather than a complete majority, the only thing that can possibly happen is they will murder us all! So we have to make them leave, "motivated" by state violence, which is not genocidal at allYes I can see why you think being a minority might be undesirable
He's baiting
>>729295948>>729295951its like when you ask a nigger how they would feel if they skipped breakfastand in this situation you're the nigger
>>729295326Compare leftist media from 20 years ago (That were labeled as furthering patriarchal white-centric tropes or whatever) to leftist media today in terms of variety, quality and competence in getting their message acrossIt's obvious that modern liberal culture is deteriorating and you can blame Fox News, incels or any chud nazi who hasn't been a thousand miles from any writing studio you want, you've been successfully grifted.And to set things straight, I believe that Trump is a retard of cosmic proportions, republicans are incompetent headbashers who have no idea of how to actually run a country and race-based nationalism has been a objective failure on all fronts
>>729295989If you are for making white people in their majority current host countries (muh natives), a minority then white people have every right to vote against and fight against you, simple as.
>>729296037You're retarded of you think "time spent" is the correct measurementProtip: it has nothing to do with time
>>729295989>just give up and let us winwow
>>729295989I don't care what you think. The browns go back to their homelands. I am not giving up my country and if you try to kill me or mine I'll kill you.You have every opportunity to take a different path. Go live in africa with them. Hold their hands and give them a shoulder to cry on when they can't live in an evil genocidal white people country anymore and have to go live with their own. Go to their country and teach them how to do things. I am all for it. Do all of that, and more.But you and they are not taking my homeland from me and mine. It's that simple. We don't have to fight but if you force it then we will.
>>729295989>stop fighting backHoly shit this anon might be retarded lel
>>729296092not exactly what i meant but at least it wasnt completely offmy gripe is with the implication that the site hasnt gotten worse multiple times over and that I cant have an opinion on it because i wasnt there in 06 or whatever
>>729296179/a/ has a ton of oldfags from 06 that I still talk to in IRC, you do not get to have an opinion, that is correct.
>>729292470>It's functioning as intended. It's not incompetence, but intentional maliceAgreed. In reference to what >>729290934 said, the hack showed that the most requested feature from the anons was... thread ids. Which, in place of a competent / willing moderation team, can we used for self-moderation. There's even a picture on /vt/ that showed a user on an alt-chan samefagging for like 20+ posts in a row before being banned.I get the felling that doing things properly would be only a month of "hard" work before things stabilize, but that requires doing things in good faith, having good tools to do their job, things which I doubt would happen because 1. they are doing things maliciously and 2. this site doesn't see anything developed.
>>729296179It has gotten worse but that's mainly due to an influx of new users and a focus by three letter agencies
>>729295989Yes the people that megacorps are bringing in, at high rates and lower integration than ever before, who lower the economic and voting power of the countries former majority, while also making those same megacorps record profits, are being genocided when we want that to not happen
>>729296218i am very happy for you>>729296294>focus by three letter agenciesyes, everything they do is so obvious
Anons do not forget that their is active discord raids here which seek to subvert anti-left wing talking points, you do not need to be right wing but do not forget this.
>>729296179Oh and you can, that's why I said time spent didn't matter, the important part is learning and acclimating to the old culture, so if you did that then feel free since you'd know just gow things have changed versus someone who doesn't care to "lurk moar"
>>729296380Yeah, I've seen emusually frequents threads about woke games
>>729296397>how things
>>729296268Frankly, the best way to fix 4chan is to go all in on self-moderationbut that's actually a very difficult problem, it's not as simple as say, selecting people to be janniessage is a decent self moderation systemculturally discriminating against namefagging is a good self moderation systemyou can probably piss around with some ideas with an AI now to try out and see what sticks, but self moderation where the systems of this place naturally push discussion towards what's fun, engaging, useful, funny, etc. is what it needs. Not more jannies or better functioning bans or whatever the hell it is they're even doingand I guess a close second to the self moderation is probably increasing the signal to noise ratiowe need good discussions being more prevalent and bad ones less (hey that's what sage helped do when it was visible...)
>>729295889none of you can have fun because you're all a bunch of insecure trannies and faggots who just want to be upset at shit all day. nobody wants to be a part of that. that's why 4cuck is completely irrelevant
>>729295374>instagram and tiktok are closer to the spirit of 4chanSpoken like someone underage who never spent a minute on old 4chan or on the old internet in general.
/v/ became shit not because of /pol/ or politics but because the internet in general has become hyper polarized and filled with slop from all spectrums, some boards retained a bit of their identity however but they also have a lot less traffic compared to /v/
>>729296480If people would pay attention to what page a thread is on then sage being visible wouldn't matter muchSelf moderation is great but the problem is that, for example, a group like soijak party can keep threads up between themselves bumping and baiting which makes it hard to keep good threads up and drown out bad threads
>>729296397>old culturei think at this point the only tangible aspect of that is contributing to the right threads
>>729296505>says a poster of rage bait
>>729296656i'm making an important exception for this thread. this thread is an abomination. i hope all of you find the courage to kill yourselves, genuinely
>>729296578/v/ is actually still one of the better boardstoo much traffic for jannies to really moderate so it mostly isn't and somehow little/no moderation actually means higher quality while its the opposite case with high moderation like on the slow boardsthe more 4chan jannies moderate a board, the worse the quality of that board gets and the fewer people post there and its a self destructive feedback loop. Somehow 4channie moderation is almost never beneficial for the actual wellbeing of the site, but I don't think anyone in the site admin is willing to actually accept that and figure out what the fuck they're doing wrong.
>>729296505Assuming everything you've posted is what you actually think, and you aren't some bad faith retard, we aren't even on opposing sides. The three images you from the other sites are funny>Argentinians>Whiteand mods allowing the blacked cancer that you also seem to not like is a huge(probably the main) fucking problem. But you also better not be upset when I posted "Vaxx Status?" after Kirk got necked
>>729296625Yea, it's the most important part. It's not easy though when fully on topic threads can 404d at the drop of a hat but if everyone that cared ignored the rage baiting threads and screencap threads and kept threads about games bumped it would help a lot.
>>729296754>being what makes the site unfun and angry but it's not my fault it's unfun and angry
>>729296806inane retard mumble
>>729296505Nobody has fun because fun gets out-spammed by sharteens. You contribute to a negative feedback loop like the mods and jannies do.Be the change you want to be, or fuck off. Nobody cares about a self-righteous idiot who can't even stick to their guns while crying about a problem they could easily solve if they themselves were just a little more fun
>>729296904this thread is already doomed. i don't know what you expect me to post to unfuck the mess you idiots made here. may as well tell you what the problem is
>>729297013see>>729297089
>>729297140Well you could always not post anything since evidently you're not posting anything fun. Who would find your "advice" fun?Why not go back to where you come from if it's so much better?You have options. I find my fun here in spite of the massive amounts of jibber-jabber in this thread. I barely partake in it. You're the one being a huge bitch man.
>>729297089I don't think he means this thread in particular
>>729297089>may as well tell you what the problem isYeah: (you)
>>729295145idk why people even phonepostits a horrid experience
>>729297921sometimes i can't be arsed to get out of bed
