Is Man Who Erased His Game a good standalone entry point?
>>729289275No, play Yakuza 1 on PS2 and go in release order from there
>>729289275It has a lot of story references to 6 and 7
>is a game that takes a place between the 6th and 7th games (and assumes you played the 7th) of the series a good entry point
It's the polar opposite to that actually
>>729289275Why would you play the very last game he stars in? I wouldn't recommend it at all, you don't even get to hang out in Kamurocho.Start by release order as always. You can also ignore the ps2 games and jump straight into Kiwami 1 and 2, or 0 then the Kiwamis.
>>729289275the post is a reference to RGG/some game reviewer claiming its a good entry point
Not at all. It's pretty barebones too. I don't know why people seem to like it.
>>729289275NoEither do 1 or 0The rest expect that you have played previous games
>>729289275Haven't played that one yet ,but im pretttty positive starting with zero is the best..if you start anywhere else Zero would be spoiled somewhat .
>>729289326Akiyamer funny.
>>729289451Can I start with 6?I’ve played 0, Kiwami , Kiwami 2, and 3. It’s been years since I played a yakuza game I just want a classic one where I can play as kiryu and run around doing sidequests and mini games like in 0 and kiwami
>>729289275no 3 is the best starting point
>>729289947>I just want a classic one where I can play as kiryu and run around doing sidequests and mini games like in 0 and kiwamiIshin. 6 sucks
I played 0, Kiwami 1 and 2Its the same fucking game again and againAssCreed changes more between releases than this shit.>its ok when japan does it
>>729289275No, play 4, because it's the only worthwhile entry.
>>729289275It's a children's video game. That's like asking if you need to read the rest of the series of other pop-up books.
>>7292900287 & 8 were turn based RPGs.
>>729289947go for PEAKuza 4, thank me later.
In terms of gameplay, I feel like it's the most satisfying. Charging Kiryu's attacks feels good. Sending enemies flying with a charged strike while in Extreme Heat Mode feels good. There's a lot of complaints about the nerfed juggling, but juggling can never be as satisfying as launching enemies to the next district.
>>729290376I don't know why they're bringing in juggling when bouncing enemies off props/walls is way more fun. My favourite part about the turn-based games is positioning characters to hit enemies into walls/other party members for more damage. I haven't started PY yet but it looks like a musou with the amount of juggling going on
>>729289275No. It's absolute garbage.Just don't touch the series at all.It's actively crashing down with each passing year.
>>729289275Play Zero, 1 2, maybe 3 (not kiwami), 4. Optionally 5 and 6.Then just forget about the rest and jump straight into Judgment and Lost Judgment.Or maybe just play the latter two, fuck it. It's the best the series could offer and they're supposed to be spinoffs.
I hate this game
>>729290376The combat is definitely the best in the Kiryu series for sure.
>>729290482In these games, juggling is basically shorthand for "speed/technique". This is why Akiyama, Yagami and Majima are built around it. Kiryu can juggle a bit, but he's the guy who can punch two tigers into submission.I'm kinda sad because Kiryu probably won't be able to launch enemies as easily in YK3. It looks like they're going back to his pre-Dragon Engine fighting style, but that has fewer opportunities for enemies forward. Most of his finishers are built more around smacking enemies down rather than horizontally.
>>729289275combat is peak. has the best version of Like A Buttefly and the spider gadget is hilarious. Definitely fun but too short to justify full price. wait for a massive discount
>>729289275no, play 0 first, then the ps2 games, but if youre a shitter than cant handle older games then i guess play the kiwamis but know theyre comparatively worse in every way except for QOL. play is numerical order after that. like a dragon is 7, then TMWEHN, then infinite wealth which is 8, then pirate majima, but that game is shit so skip it
>>729290935If they ever made Yakuza Kiwami 5, I'd actually want them to give him back some of his Gaiden combos. Imagine doing the fight where Kiryu has to take down a hundred Tojo Clan members, and he's just punching entire rows of enemies across the field.
>>729291148the 100 man fight is only fun because they didnt make fighting styles based around crowd control back then, now they add in a bunch of shit moves and styles centered just around when you have to fight 20 guys at a time and it sucks
>>729291004>the best version of Like A ButteflyMaybe in terms of vocals but I still prefer Kiryu and Seonhee
>>729291202Nah, the 100 man fight in the original game was basically just "Use Dragon Spirit". As useless as Dragon Spirit is against bosses, it's completely broken against normal enemies. Like whatever your criticisms are against AoE styles like Agent, Dragon Spirit deserves those very same criticisms and more. The ability exists almost exclusively for dealing with a large number of mobs at once.
>>729291501i agree actually i forgot about it since its literally never used otherwise. even in street battles it hardly ever works since theyll block before the last hit in the combo
>>729289275>gaiden
>>729291802Man. Even dolled up to the max she's so painfully mid.
If they ever made Kiwami 4/5, they'd probably give each character their own version of Extreme Heat. The problem is that they'd almost certainly lock all the good elements of Saejima's playstyle behind it as well, namely his super armor. Ever since Y6, they stopped adding context-sensitive passives that depend on how much heat you have. All of that stuff has been relegated to Extreme Heat.
>>729291802They were extremely generous with her model in 8
>>729289275It has my wife in it so yes
>>729293572She was so underutilized.
>>729293572Osakan Form Seonhee
>>729291802>>729292695kek... they really did slim her down a a lot.
>>729289275It's embarassing garbage
https://youtu.be/Z27cM-q9gr8?si=hlCzwz3GwTF7xRB7
>>729293665Her dialogue in 8 is absolutely insufferable. I bet the localisers were patting themselves on the back for it too
>>729294469Fuck, you just reminded me. Peak trannyslator slop.
>>729289275If you have time, play all games and skip 3,4,5,6. If you have little time, play 0, lad and this. Both judgment games are likely a better starting point, ay them inay case
It spoils 6 and 7 so probably not
>>729294825>if you have the time, skip half the gamesonly quality opinions from the best and brightest
>>729291802That's a guy
>>729293572She's atrocious and nothing she does makes any sense. A drug addict chain smoker that helps homeless people somehow has access to high tech combat tech and is also tied to the high society in Japan, basically she-epstein.
>>729295089He's obviously ima fan of modern games and k3 will release soon, why bother with y3 instead? 4,5,6 are unfinished or worse, assassinate kiryu as character.
>>729291802She's so very stocky and mediocre compared to all the other ones in that game.
>>729295272I banged horse face in gaiden. (needed xp)
>>729289275Is it a story about EU's "right to be forgotten"?
>>729289326I don't have 50 hours times 12-15 or however many of these are there, though.
>>729295272very weak hostess offering in general. corners were cut in gaiden.
>>729295410None past the first two are worth playing anyway.
>>729295272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqPhUsfWxy4She's skinny again now. She is significantly older than the others though.
>>729294847>>729289349> 6 7
>>729295258lol talking about assassinating kiryu as a character and then recommending the demake kiwami 3
>>729295410>i dont have time to play all the metal gear solids, can i just play 4 and then drop it after that?
>>729295836What do? I don't control vidya supply. Are you telling me you didn't buy any yakuza after 6? I'm unhappy with some needless changes in k3, hope mine will be a playable character in the soon future.
>>729295919no im saying dont play the demakes retard. anything with the kiwami name is basically guaranteed to be shit that ruins the soul of the original + every game after LJ has been complete shit cuz yokoyama cant direct for shit. the only silver lining of k3 is the mine expansion but you can absolutely get a better experience out of the games by not playing k3 and not skipping half of them
>>729296027Literally playing y3 rn. Better than I had remembered, but I might get k3, as theres little to play. Not paying more than ~15, so maybe 2027 or so.>kiwami is shitI didn't think so, until I played the originalY1 and 2 are janky, but fantastic experiences.>yokohama sucksSure does>4,5,6Idk, they are very long and I disliked quite a few things in these games. 6 was just 3, but what if lame?>ljComes with it's own problems.Do you like lad?
>>729293665I think it's actually the opposite and the people in charge of wardrobe and makeup at SEGA made some odd unflattering choices.
>>729296646I dislike yakuza having actual starlets
>>729296646How edited is that photo though
>>729296290its good for the most part except for the retarded mirror face character, its the most contrived shit ever
>>729289275what the fuck???? No, you stupid retard, that is one of the WORST entry points possible, you're gonna spoil like three games worth of plotlines for yourself, you dumbass
>>729297038Her and another one of the hostesses reenacted Mesuking in full SEGA-provided cosplay just yesterday and it looks right to me. She's just very short.
>>729297040That's lame writing alright. Guess they lost steam.>mirror faceCan't even fight properly>y3How do I gift dresses and jewelry to girls and can I have more than one girl? Can't find hiromi, she's not in 2f public market.
I've read that pirate majima is easy af. Should I skip rings (gear) for added difficulty?
>>729289275No we don't need any more newfag Yakuza players. You people ruined the series enough as it is.
>>729296646The fuck is with her legs?
>>729289275No. It's basically good bye to the whole era
>>729289326This is the only way. I spent December of 2024 - May 2025 going through the entire series and it was well worth it. Seeing the gradual improvement and refinement of gameplay systems was something else. Playing the titles in release order have also allowed me to develop an appreciation for the side entries (I played the PSP titles and Pirate Yakuza), and seeing how the gameplay fundamentally evolved into something qualitative different yet still familiar with the franchise. None of this would have been possible if I just jumped in.The only advice I would have for someone wanting to go in relative release order is this, Play 6 and then Man Who Erased his name back to back. I know this is probably not the recommended, but I consider those games to pair beautifully with one another.>Personal Subjective FavYakuza 2 (PS2)>Unsung HeroBlack Panther (PSP)>Best StoryJudgement>Best Gameplay (Action)Yakuza Kiwami Dragon Style and Man Who Erased Name Dragon Style.>Most Unexpected EnjoymentLike a Dragon
Is Ishin worth it? The sale is pretty tasty.
>>729289275>good standalone entry pointlol no.More like probably the worst to start with.
>>729304531>Yakuza 2 (PS2)By far the best entry>judgementI skipped it and played lj. Unsure if I should play judgement.>>729304531>most shattered expectationsIw
>>729290119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOyGJNLpCEnothing ever beat this
>>729306992>>729306992How the fuck did Lost Judgment end up being the best Japanese game about school?
>>729289275Why did he erase his name?
>>729307289because haruka fucked up
>>729289275The only good thing about doing that is that you won't be able to tell how retarded the whole premise is so you might be able to enjoy the game more
>>729306992Dude, you are doing yourself one of the biggest disservices of all time by skipping out on Judgement. It has literally the best story in the franchise by far. The supporting cast was great, and with how the game is structured, it pushes you to interact with the world at large. Initially I didn't like the forced feeling of going out of my way to be nice to the Smiling Burger lady, or visit in on my friend in the computer lounge, but they eventually became part of the larger world.
>>729307115Yakuza is still massively undervalued as a series.Bummer that even persona and the like can't keep up.
>>729308382So far I liked 0 and lad, lj close second. I already know a bit of what happened. >judgement best stoeyLj is good, too. Has very weak moments.>interactingLike sub quest structure? This was lacking in lj.It's 8 bucks on Snoy, will get it after Xmas.
since i am in the thread, i only have the physical ps4 versions of kiwami 1 and 2. should i sell them and get the dual pack ps5 version? or just keep the ones i have
>>729308760No, don't get the ps5 versions. They do nothing of importance. That's often the case btw
>>729295410Then you're not fit to be in the Yakuza/
>>729309010thanks for clearing up my ocd. i might get 3 kiwami for ps5. i told myself i wont buy anymore yakuza games until i beat kiwami 1 and 2
>>729289947That's funny, 3s shitty combat also burned my out so badly that I didn't touch the series for like 2 years
>>729295410Don't play the games then.
>>729295272If that's what's considered mediocre these days then perhaps the problem lies elsewhere.
>>729310536Well you can just sell them and get yourself Yakuza Zero. This way you still only have the first part (technically) and get to enjoy a new game
>>729289275No, not at all. There are two camps, starting with 0 and then going by numbered order and starting with original 1 and going chronologically. The Yakuza series is mostly shit though, so I recommend 0, 1(whichever you prefer), 2 (whichever you prefer) and then switching over to the Judgment games which aren’t dogshit like every other Yakuza title.
Ah nice, a Yakuza thread. I wanted to ask how much better 4’s combat is compared to 3. I finished it like eight months ago, and all the blocking and item spamming just gave me complete and utter burnout from the series. Going from 0 to Kiwami was already bad enough, but I am thinking about maybe just downloading a combat mod if it is similar, because I can absolutely not go through that again
OFFICIAL ranking of the mainline titles coming throughYakuza 3Yakuza 5Yakuza 0Yakuza 4Yakuza 1Yakuza 2(All of the above are 9 to 10 out of 10)Yakuza 6(This one is like an 7.5 maybe 8)Yakuza 7Yakuza 8(These fucking suck and anyone that defended these games have no legit opinion)>>729304531>>729306992Based Yakuza 2 enjoyers.
>>7293118037 would be great if the gameplay wasn’t the single most rudimentary, 40 years outdated turn based garbage. I am shocked they had literally no ideas to differentiate the gameplay from the very first RPGs in the world, maybe even worse.
>>729312046Yeah very true. And some people on here would say shit like ''oh but this was their first time ever making a turn based game'' But that's too weak of an excuse since there are more than enough examples of good turn-based systems even if they only looked at other SEGA affiliated games. Also I think the characters are a bit weaker apart from Ichiban.
>>729312046Somehow they made 8 combat even more braindead.
>>729312425At least it brought the VERY basics of fucking 3d turn based into the game. The story however was irredeemable dogshit once again focused on THE LEAST CAPABLE OF CHARACTER GROWTH MAN IN THE WORLD so I’m skipping. I think I’m giving up on RGG studio, their last chance was making the Majima game any good and it was just awful. MAYBE if the new not-Yakuza is good but it has Yokoyama working on it so I have very little hope.
>>729312046I wouldn't say they didn't try anything new as much as they were afraid of pushing it too much. Stuff like the downed attacks, aoe based on physical position of the characters or attacks getting blocked by enemies on the way are fun ideas to spice up the typical fromula... for a bit, because most of that stuff stops mattering after a few hours and you just end up spamming the strongest specials, which is more often than not all you need to progress.I haven't played 8 yet so I don't know how the gameplay compares, maybe they figured something out to make the gameplay more interesting.
>>729308672>>interacting>Like sub quest structure? This was lacking in lj.It's the sub-quest structure as well as the accumulation of stat points/other side missions. A massive amount of gameplay oppurtunities are delivered with doing misc. detective missions as they pop up (which was sorely fucking lacking in Lost Judgement). It may not have had the expansiveness of the school, but I hated how 95% of the side content was gated behind those clubs. Instead, they're just selectable at your leisure which is great.The other big component of the game is interacting with Kamurocho. Unlike past games which let you break the stat system by just beating the shit out of everyone, in this game you had to actually interact with the city at large. At first I despised it, as it felt like my progression was gated behind a forced mechanic. But the more I interacted with it, the more it made Kamurocho feel like "my city" which up until then Yakuza 4 was the only one to hit that feeling. I know I'm hyping it up, but everything about the gameplay delivery in Judgement was superior to Lost Judgement. That being said, Lost Judgement played like a fucking dream and had ironed out a lot of the jank in Judgement.
Shenmue 1&2 mog this garbage
>>7293115134's combat is great and the game fixes almost everything wrong with 3. Enemies block way less, are less tanky in general, and the upgrade system is infinitely better. There's also way more variety because you get to play as 4 different dudes. Just be sure to get the mod that fixes quickstep distance if you're playing on PC, because the remasters of 3 and 4 halve the distance it covers due to 60fps.https://www.nexusmods.com/yakuza4remastered/mods/18?tab=files&file_id=22
>>729314073>4's combat is greatEspecially "Munakata" fight
>>729310536Yakuza 2 is the best. Kiwami 2 has very good combat, but is the lesser version compared to y2. I'll get k3, but not full price. Have you played y7/8? Could start with these, especially 7 is awesome and like 6 usd for all dlc. 7 needs two playthroughs imho, normal and legend. 8, too.
>>729311803Why y3? It's comfy and campy alright.
>>729312046>had literally no ideas to differentiateIt's dq3, period. Gameplay of a snes game.
>>7293124258 has OK gameplay, but>>729312637By far the worst the story
>>729312637>very little hope.I have none. He's a veteran and it will be more of the same.
>>729311513It's way better, all the major issues in 3's combat were fixed. No matter what people will tell you the original version had issues with blocking too even if the remaster exacerbated them. But 4 having 3 protagonists other than Kiryu is a much needed change of pace, with each protagonist feeling fully fleshed out and distinct from the rest. The levelling system is great too, you can choose directly which upgrades you want instead of going through three linear trees. I really recommend doing all the side content to level up as much as possible and get all the upgrades, there's still not as many substories as 3 and since you play as four different people they're much better spread out
>>729289275No. It's a direct sequel to Y6, a side story of Y7, and a prequel of Y8, all at once.If you must play only 1 game, make it Y0 or PS2 Y1.
>>729313884>accumulation of stat pointsNot like in lj, eh? Was pretty lame. Snake style was awesome though.>missions in ljHidden behind dancing with teens, hated it. >pacing in ljWas destroyed by 1000 school minigames. AFAIK even Japan hated it. I'm sold, getting it ASAP.
>>729289275This is the worst entry.You won't know anything going in.At least play Yakuza 0
>>729312046There's nothing wrong with the combat in 7 you stupid brain dead retarded idiot. The only problem is the unfair difficulty spikes in the story which requires you to grind for certain boss fights
>>729316738It’s fucking terrible is the problem. It was an acceptable collection of gameplay systems 40 years ago. We learned pretty quickly that 50 skills that each outdated the other until you choose your one attack over and over every fucking fight doesn’t make a good or interesting game.
>>729311803>OFFICIAL ranking of the mainline titles coming through>Yakuza 3I don't even know how anyone can think that, the only good part about Blockuza 3 is Mine.
>>729316901Like a Dragon’s combat isn’t trying to reinvent the wheel or cosplay as some giga-brain tactics sim. It’s JRPG comfort food and doing it fine enough.Your seething is unwarranted.
>>729289947Fuck no. Why do you want to skip the actually GOOD games??
>>729317374This.Yakuza 8 builds on it perfectly and gameplaywise at least is solid.Not sure what more they can do besides making new classes and stuff for future Like A Yakuza jrpg games.
>>729316971>getting filtered by blocking, when grabbing exists
>>729317374My comfort food isn’t unseasoned microwave fries. We figured out how to make better games than this a long time ago, that RGG studio thought a game that hasn’t developed since the very first RPGs is acceptable is their problem.
>>729289349So? It's a mellow soap opera of a story. The real game is the side shit and combat. The only story worth paying attention to is Yakuza 0. Every other game is like turning on the TV and seeing a random episode of Days of our Lives.
>>729317630I would much rather play a traditional jrpg than one with parries or something that invalidates the whole point of the game mechanically.
>>729317730If anons genuinely thought this their top yakuza games wouldn't be 1 and 2.
>>729317767Even E33 had more interesting skills, and that is a game that as you said ultimately boils down to parrying. Y7 has ffffucking nothing but stats and big attacks that you select pver and over again. It also has a parry system in case you forgot.
>Kiryu's combat's the best it's ever been in Gaiden 1>Throw it away for Kiwami 3
>>729289275the best standalone entry starter is Judgement and then Lost Judgement and if you like those then start working through the mainline Yakuza series.
>>729289326Unfathomably bvsed fpbp /thread, although you should've mentioned he should play the Restored hack over the vanilla version.
>>729317630Trying too hard.4 niggas in a row, turn based combat RPGs are timeless, top comfy meatballs and mashed potatoes meal, that funnily enough filters ADHD zoombies. Which is a good thing!
>>729316971>Grabbing>Weapons>Simply going behind the enemyYou are already pretty much too far gone though if you think Mine was the only good bit about yakuza 3. The entire character list is amazing. And it also has the best secondary location and soundtrack.
>>729317869Narratively e33 is good but mechanically it's utter dogshit.What's the point of a jrpg where you can just parry everything and the pictos system breaks the game entirely.It's a mechanical slopfest and I would rather take infinite Ichibans than one yakuza game like that.
>>729317730Announce yourself as a tourist next time, no need to read the rest of the post then.
>>729317828What retards think doesn't concern me. I am intellectually superior than the herd of sheep.
>>729318150It expands the player options.Don't wanna play it like a Sekiro wannabe? Play on Easy and like a traditional JRPG.Don't like grinding and don't mind features we've had since Super Mario RPG? Go nuts with the dodge/party/jumps.
>>729318150Yakuza 7 IS a yakuza game like that, but without any good skill loops or character battle flowcharts. Or gear, really. The lack of the lumina system does render the game harder to break, but just shifts that onto the fucking gear and leveling system, which incentivizes grind over everything. It still has the core parry system that gets pushed harder and harder as you go into later fights.
>>7293180834 niggas in a row developed a lot since the earliest DQ and FF titles.
>>729318083Based.Turn-based RPGs are timeless. Absolute comfort food. Meatballs and mashed potatoes for the soul. You sit down, you think, you plan, you chill. An added bonus is that they filter the brain rotted low IQ ADHD having tourists, leaving only high IQ patricians to enjoy the mealYakuza going turn based was a solid decision and I hope they stick with that moving forward.
Liked>0Also liked, but less>KiwamiDropped the series>Kiwami 2I feel like nothing is gonna happen from 2 to 6.I should try Judgment or 7. I like Japanese whores. It's too bad they don't do enough with them.Also fuck them for ruining AIKA in 2.
>>729319374Judgment is better than 7 in every way unless you like turn based combat to an irrational degree.
>>729295410Then why the fuck do you want to play any of the games to begin with you autist.
>>729319168>Being one-note and bland is actually comfy!!!Very typical take for someone who likes to make a food analogy. In 7 and 8 you never have to ''think and plan'' and that's one of the biggest issues with their shitty turn-based system. However even if they made a good turn-based combat system it would still not properly fit a game like Yakuza.
>>729319467I'm gonna need you or someone else to rank the games.>Judgement>Lost Judgement>Lost Judgement: Kaito Files>Yakuza 0>Yakuza Kiwami 2>Yakuza 2>Yakuza 3>Yakuza 4>Yakuza 5>Yakuza 6>Yakuza 7>Yakuza: Pirate>Yakuza: Man Who Erased His Name>Yakuza: Infinite Wealth
>>729289451>Start by release order as always>You can ignore the ps2 games and jump straight into Kiwami 1 and 2...were your parents siblings?>>729289838>im pretttty positive starting with zero is the best..if you start anywhere else Zero would be spoiledYeah I'm sure playing the intended release order would spoil a game they didn't even have in mind until a decade later irl you inbred.
>>729319775List the games you think are good so we can all laugh at you and your horrendous dog shit taste, you stupid worthless moron lmao
>>729319780>JudgementJudgmentAlso>Yakuza: Ishin
>>729319780Judgement, lost judgment, and 0 all swim in the top spot arbitrarily reorient themselves based upon my momentary whim.After that>Yakuza 2 (Kiwami is a frequent downgrade)>7 (Put it into unplayable dogshit if you can’t handle bad turn based gameplay)>Erased his name>4And then lump the rest into “not worth playing under any circumstance unless you have literally no other games choices”
>>729319943see>>729311803Also literally every spinoff apart from the Judgement games are also ranked higher than 7 and 8.
>>729317730you need to go back
>>729320041But I hate 2
>>729317524Y9 skips ichiban and tb apparently, bawling, too.
>Judgment>Lost Judgment>Lost Judgment: Kaito Files>Yakuza 0>Yakuza: Ishin>Yakuza Kiwami 2>Yakuza 2>Yakuza 3>Yakuza 4>Yakuza 5>Yakuza 6>Yakuza 7>Yakuza: Pirate>Yakuza: Man Who Erased His Name>Yakuza: Infinite WealthWhich is worth picking up? :)
>>729310690>>729316971Filtered.
>>729320167Then don’t play it. Kiwami exists but it’s pre-Judgment Dragon Engine combat so it isn’t very good and a lot of the game got swapped around for the worse. The Yakuza series is more bad than good, hell 4 is only playable because even though the story is retarded, it’s got fun characters in it with mildly interesting different gameplay for each.
>>729317374>comfort foodAnd that's the issue. The brawler combat was also on the easy side but if you felt confident in yourself you could do a first playthrough on a higher difficulty. No such thing with 7, your first playthrough is gonna be on Normal and it's gonna play as if you chose Easy. It's awful, mind-numbingly boring.
>>729291802she's generally skinny and does irl streams regularly (kson). also, a famous dragon vtuber.
>>729289275No. Download thishttps://romsfun.com/download/yakuza-12-restored-264170
>>729289275fuck no. the only game i'd recommend as a standalone is 0 or Judgment
>>729317730>Yakuza 0.I like lad, too. Ichiban has some growth there. Y2 is fun, too. Storywise, I mean.
>>729320461but yeah, she is NOT a whale.
>>729289947>I’ve played 0, Kiwami , Kiwami 2, and 3.>where I can play as kiryu and run around doing sidequests and mini games like in 0 and kiwamiThen just play 4 you fucking idiot
>>729320808cake
Which of these games has the best JAV additions? I want to buy it for that. I don't like the gameplay. Thank you!
>>729320226Ichibros...
>>729319374>retarded cat goes from the sixth mainline title created as the 10th anniversary celebration of the past with callbacks galore to a budget title made by the younger staff based on 0 with cut corners, cutscenes and sidequests to a janky early Dragon Engine game based on fucking 6 with no styles that you're now accustomed to with cut corners, cutscenes, sidequests, entire minigames and a city district>complains
>>729321216not only is there nothing wrong with starting with 0, it's the best starting point for most people.
>>729320937>IHUNTBEARSIs that Saejima?
>>7293197800, lad, 2, lj, 3, 1, 4, 5, 6, 7g, iw, haven't played rest.
>>729321216Your picture does nothing for me
>>729320980It's a rumor, but iw did dissapoint apparently
>>729293609>>729293572what was even the point of this character when you had spook handlers
>>729306992>I skipped it and played lj. Unsure if I should play judgement.i love that you skipped one of the best games to play one of the worst games instead. i dont know what even prompted you to do this.
>>729321356Retard.>>729321289Double retard.
>>729321776Honestly, the combat. Was researching (kek) on plebbit and it was like 50:50 regarding best story in the franchise. It was clear that lj had the better combat. That and lj was off and judgement wasn't. Now I'll play judgment soon. It's true that lj missed some low hanging fruit.
>>729319840The PS2 games are good but they're pretty archaic.
>>729322547LJ combat is great but Judgment tone and story is so much betteri still loved LJ too though
>>729322831these autistic elitist faggots would rather 98% of people who try to get into the series give up and drop it because of PS2 janki emulated 1 after finishing every other game in the series and had a great time but i was already invested in the series
>>729322842Looking forward to it. Disliked the cut crafting content.>special flasksDoes drinking trash gives you super powers like in lj?
>>729320461Did she had $ex with her?
>>729300817the yakuza games that added a dedicated attack stat that you can upgrade are all a joke if you upgrade the stat, even on the hardest mode.
>>729300817as long as you just don't level up your attack a bunch you can still wear ringswhen i played it i didn't realize you could equip 10 rings. i only saw one hand with 5 rings so i spent like 75% of the game with half of my slots filled
>>729289275>Erases his game>you can still play the gameand you lost it
>>729318170>no no no you dont understand, my super wacky yet serious kpop drama playable novela is actually peak writing bro!
>>729323459I beat lj without health upgrades. These games tend to be easy, except for the Y1 kiwami car chase, fuck that.>>7293235800 and lad have good writing.>>729322842Judgement has no equipment slots?
>>729322980I started with Yakuza 1 (restored patch), and it was the single greatest decision I had made in a while. The fixed camera angles go so hard towards building tone/atmosphere. My biggest gripe with the game wasn't even the controls, it was locking all the most essential moves behind Komaki and if you're not paying attention, you will miss out on SO MUCH.
>>729323580>super wackyWasn't a thing until the franchise was utterly Flanderized. Emphasis on the 'super' part.
>>729324109>fixed camera angleIt's often enough the right choice, but devs shun it.
>>729324937It's cinematic, but it often does absolutely nothing for gameplay. You're basically sacrificing gameplay for atmosphere, which is a trade that a lot of players actually aren't willing to tolerate.
>>729321289If you go by "least amount of stuff that might make you drop the game", then 0 is the best entry point.No stupid fucking garbage child plot is a blessing.It would be Judgment if it wasn't for the spying sneaking segments.
>>729289275The secret agent man shit is so far gone from what Yakuza is supposed to be
>>729322842I'll never play LJ because of pic related.It was already kinda hard to accept Yagami looking like a 55yo never-left-midlife-crisis with how the rest of the cast looks and how he acts. Seriously wrong actor for this role.But LJ takes the cake. You can't fucking do this man. Fucking Ichiban looks less like a clown.
>>729326040A lot of garbage brainlets you mean.You unfortunately can't get big big without pandering to them, but fuck I wish Yakuza had more restraint and artistry behind it.
>>729327152Ichiban gets away with it because he looks and acts like a young dude, they could have easily not had him go to prison and just had you playing as a young guy.Kind of a missed opportunity but I assume they don't plan to use ichiban for that long.
>>729295410Stick to something more your speed thenperhaps Candy Crush or Wordle?
>>729327152you shouldn't play LJ just for its terrible story
I only played these and I'm kinda full. Like, ate pizza every day for a month and kinda done for like 5 years at least.Judgment was the best.
>>729327582Lost Judgment is good and refreshing enough to probably relieve a bit of the burnout but yeah, you basically played all of the most well regarded ones not including original 1 and 2. If you stopped here, it wouldn't really be any loss.
>>729324109>My biggest gripe was locking essential moves behind Komaki and if you're not paying attention, you will miss out onI'd argue that's a good system that heavily rewards exploration. The other day I committed the mistake of watching some Let's Players videos on Yakuza 3 for shits and giggles and dear God people complaining non-stop about it for years now suddenly made sense>rushing from main quest to main quest, Kiryu is underleveled so he lacks tons of useful moves like Knockdown Reversal or Bounding Throw>no IF7 so no unlocks from that mode>unlock Revelations but then proceed to just keep playing, don't look up how to trigger the move they've just unlocked so they never get any use out of 'em>ignore Alcohol as a mechanic so their Heat generates slower and they never use Essence of Pole Dancing or Drunken Thrust when it's free damage for the bosses they struggle with>don't even use the item box in the save booths, inventory is always maxed out with crap>when it's not, they just abuse health items and spend money on buying basic unupgraded weapons that carry them through the game>they never vary their combos, then never use Parries or Tiger Drops to prep enemies for wall bouncing, they just stand there and mash X and complain about BlockuzaMouthbreathing normies that started with 0 and the Kiwamis were a mistake.
>>729327152>wrong actorNever use actors for games.>yagami oldMay e, but strong af. He could take kiryu.
>>729330673That's almost impossible. What game are they playing and why are they playing it?
How's emulation for Yakuza 2? I want my nephew to play in release order but 2's cinematics are laggy on my PS2 with FMCB
>>729332082Unavoidable afaik
>>729332082I hate that they never released a HD remaster of 1 and 2.Or well, I think they did for the wii u?
>>729332082>FMCBmodchip bvlls who burn their own games on disc never have this problem
>>729295410Most of the games are around 20-30 hours even if you do a lot of side stories and mess around with minigames a bit. There is no point in going extra mile with these games.
I wish they'd remake the PSP games instead of more pointless Kiwamis. At least Kiwami 4 whenever it comes out will be the last
When was the exact moment you decided you love the franchise?I'm playing in release order, I'm playing 5 right now, I think my turning point was during 1, with that substory about the girl and the drunkard where you notice something is off and decide not to drink anymore. It was great.
>0I really liked the romance.>1I really liked the bromance.>2... Nothing.What does 3 have for a relationship lover like myself?
>>7293331603 is all about parental love so you got that But now, what do you mean 2 has nothing? It does have both romance and a cool relationship of manly respect
>>729333306yuk yuk yukFine, I'll try to play this shit again
>>729333631>Kiwami
>>729334087Original doesn't have AIKA
>>729331871>That's impossibleI wish it was. I regret being cursed with such knowledge now.
>>729332739If you didn't battle Amon you didn't finish the game.
As someone who's only played the original Yakuza 2 (PS2), can anyone tell me why people hate kiwami 2 so much? I was planning on playing it later (I'm playing in release order) but I've seen many anons say that it is terrible, even some that seem to accept kiwami 1.
>>729334167Kiwami doesn't have Sayama's sideboob.
>>729334572Last time I played it, I swear I soft-locked against a boss because of retarded skill-tree shit I couldn't undo.
Is this true?
>>729335214Until 7: Pirate, yes
>>729334572Where do I even start? It cuts minigames like Club Adam, YF6 and the Marietta so when you see those being referenced in future games (Adam in a hostess substory in Y3, Minamida who created IF7 stating he also created YF6 and Kiryu being like "oh yeah I played that", etc.) it makes no sense if you've only played K2. Also the game has a green filter throughout the entire thing, and it cut Evening as a time of day so cutscenes that took place during it like Majima in Nakamichi Street singlehandedly taking on the Go-Ryu now take place at night. Both the evening and the green filter bit combine in pic related, which goes from a room with the window open letting the sun in to a nauseating green dark room instead. Also as you might notice, they changed Takashima from young in the original to old in Kiwami even though his archetype is meant to be that of a youngster with new technologies that's trying to take over by not caring much about the old rules, yet is now as old as Jin Goda himself.The original reused Y1's docks map for both a cutscene with Sayama and Date, and Amon's boss fight. Kiwami didn't have access to it so they set those in other places, namely the former now takes place in a random, ugly, grey rooftop. There's worse attention to detail in graphics (>>727331145, all enemies have the same color of Heat aura inherited from Y6, so Majima for example has red aura when otherwise he's always been characterized by his purple mist), worse soundtrack (https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764411559611255.webm) and they completely cut Shinseicho as a location. It just doesn't exist.A whole bunch of other things I'm sure I'm forgetting but the post is up to 1700 characters already so I'll leave it here. You get the idea.
>>729335214He's pretty based in 1 and 2, he's fine in 3, he's clearly very based in 4. I just started 5 so that's it.
>>729335214He's never THAT cool again but he stays pretty cool until Yokoyama gives him permanent brain damage in 7 and he doesn't recover.
>>729335523The worst part of this is that they people who played kiwami 2 will most likely never try the original.Also WHAT THE FUCK is that soundtrack during the rain scene LMAOI don't like their version of A Scattered Moment either, it doesn't hit as hard.
>>729335541>5 MajimaOh nononononono
>>729334167good
>>729335214The fact that he was "cool" in 0 is why the Kiwamis have to bend over backwards to maintain his new big chungus characterization. Can't wait to see how they further white wash him in K5.
>>729335214Yeah, but Kiryu becomes cooler than Majima used to be over the games, so it's fine
>>729289275Its like the worst yakuza game ever
>>729337834that's not dead souls
>>729337760Bull fucking shit. Kiryu is a massive fuckup who wins despite how much of a retarded dork he continuously is. The man gets basically all of his friends killed and serially leaves loaded weapons next to antagonists so they can kill more. He punches his way up so many skyscrapers that the antagonists start actually just using that to shoot him and his friends. Kiryu stops being cool after 2 or arguably 3 and starts being contemptible.
>>729338130Right, that's cool
>>729338176Being a brick wall that continually gets his friends killed and cries about it is cool? Like he just stands around indestructibly and occasionally delivers a speech. The world contrives itself to give him wins until it doesn't, and he cries more.
>>729338297Yep, he's the coolest
>>729290012Ishin combat is super clunky and unfluid
So can you turn off magic attacks in Ishin Kiwami or not?
>>729333160...what? 2 has the best romance in the series by a fucking landslide
>this is a 56 year old
>>729339601Majima is literally aging in reverse at this point.
>>729338020Only people that haven't played it say that.
Kurohyo is actual kino bros. i'm on chapter 7
>>729338630>can youYes>should you Ishin's combat was rebalanced for Kiwami around trooper cards. It's not that the cardless combat is the default and the cards are overpowered, the card combat is the intended experience and you do less damage without them than you did in the original game. Whether you can deal with the fact a normal enemy will take 10 more hits than intended if playing without cards is up to you.
A hundred years or later... a century if you will.
Thread theme https://youtu.be/kqJZ7ab5Xqs?si=II8rwWyCkX1h9zno
>>729340764>immortality is now canon to Yakuza I hate Yokoyama.
>>729342634It's not immortality, considering Rodriguez's father still passed away from old age. It's just them trying to explain why Bryce is so old and kicking. And maybe why the Stranger Than Heaven protagonist will go through some 100 year adventure, if it's set in the same universe.
Yakuza (2005) is easily my favourite game in the series because it's short, sharp, and complete. I played it after everything from 0 to 5 and I was shocked at how straightforward everything was. There's no unnecessary frills, plot related substories are triggered and disappear depending on what story chapter you were at, and signature moves just require a certain level to unlock. No bullshit, just a good old game. I highly recommend, especially to people who might like the series precisely because it's 12 hours tops and doesn't inundate you with stupid shit.
Except 7, what else should I get for Yakuza?
>>7293434504 is fun and has multiple characters with different playstyles, content, and arcs, just be aware that they feel the need to show that a recently free inmate can resist raping a little girl as some kind of profound statement of his good moral character and that the main twist is overused. It starts slow too. You can also just grab the original Ishin elsewhere which is arguably better, but don't let me tell you how to spend your neetbux. Otherwise, 1,2 and 3 are all solid too, but steam only has the remasters which aren't as good.
What's the new shit with Kiwami 3? Will it be set between 3 & 4, or is it now post-8 content?
>>729343938It's a Mine origin story, so before 3
>>729343240Also, it's such a good starting point. And such an obvious one, too. I loved this game so much and playing 2 afterwards feels great.
>>729344061Cool.I like Mine.