>faction A is flawed but overall still the best option>faction B is evil incarnate and eats puppies aliveThis shit is stupid>devs argue both sides are bad while making it obvious they hate faction A more
Reminds me of this>Good playthrough: Get all the best items, the entire story and all companions>Evil playthrough: Miss 70% of the game
This is about new vegas isn't it. The answer is that they simply spent way more time working on the NCR quests than they did the legion. So you get 15 million instances of NCR being fucking stupid as shit and everyone hating them so they had to compensate by making the legion comically evil but with 0 downsides outside of that.
>>729291387Starfield had the opposite problem, where all the main factions were practically the same with different hats, and the puppy eating pirate faction was just NPC jobbers
>>729291387Faction B exists to give you an in-character questline if you're roleplaying as an evil motherfucker who rapes bitches and eats kittens.
>>729291471>This is about new vegas isn't it.What makes you say that?
>>729291471Obsessed
>>729291483It's pretty popular and it has this exact same issue, plus I've played it a lot so it's just the first thing that came to mind.
>>729291519So >>729291506
>>729291536Sure I guess. Why not?
>>729291387>faction B is constantly shoved in the cartoonishly evil box while faction A gets the protagonist role >"The writers hate faction A!"
>>729291584The accident happened ten years ago. You have to let it go.
>Kenshi>UC=if you are poor, you are a criminal and will be enslaved and worked to death.>HN=if you are a woman or nonhuman, have a prosthetic arm, or happen to disagree with a member of the clergy, you will be enslaved and worked to death.>Shek=If you live on their lands, they will come take all your food. If you try to fight back, they will gladly kick your teeth in and leave you for dead.>CRAB GANG=CRAB CRAB CRAB LETS GOOOOOO CRAB IT UP
>>729291584This is not real, anon. You have to face reality one day.
>>729291592when the devs go to great lengths on their blogposts about how much they hate faction A despite making an opposing faction that is evil incarnate, then yes, you fucking moron.
>>729291670What the FUCK are you talking about.
>>729291387faction A is heteronormative and boringfaction B is queer and exciting
>>729291387Faction B's t-shirt is obviously ironic.
>>729291387that's literally NCR and The Legion
>>729291729cirno aged up with fat tits and big butt
>>729291387the west hates itself. the west self insert therefore gets high scrutiny and hatred for slight missteps, whereas the literal barbarian savage hordes are just accepted as being inferior and so get a pass
>>729291387How is faction B evil? We as player love killing, that's how we get personal growth(levels) and players love killing.For me faction A is evil because they are retards who make mistakes and faction B is good because it's someone player can relate to.
>>729291842There's already characters who normally have both of those. Why would you want the ugly ass fairy.
>>729291387/v/ constantly cries about "morally grey" faction, subversion, dindu antagonists and now that you're faced with clear cut good guys and bad guys you also whine? What do you want the factions to look like?
>>729292128I want good guys and good guys and they have friendly competitions with eachother
>>729291471Obsidian (in their Black Isle days) canonized one of Fallout 1’s ending in Fallout 2 and made NCR a real thing, into a functioning nation with its own economy and culture. After they reformed as Obsidian and started developing New Vegas, they became giga contrarians and decided that having a post-apocalyptic civilization was a mistake, Josh Sawyer said as much on his tumblr. For all the shit that /v/irgins give bethesda for having their fallout games take place in junk towns with raiders having wars 24/7 outside settlement perimeters, Obsidian (or at least their old-heads before they left) loved this idea as well. Fallout is no longer about societies healing and growing from the ashes of the old world, but rather crabs in a bucket writhing in said ashes.
>>729292036Then you are lost
Also faction B is always more competent somehow despite everyone living under the system being completely fucking miserable.
Faction B is for meI love being evil in gamesEspecially in previous Bioware games where you can be a straight up psycho for no reason with barely any consequences
>>729291387I pick B because justifying bad shit as for the greater Good is done
>>729292193And I hate this.Fallout is about the new world. This is also why I HATE the show. Because it's about the dumb ass pre war conspiracy instead of the people who live in the here and now.The character of Ulysses is a criticism of this. Ulysses is obsessed with history and it has made him jaded, lonely, and has giving him nothing. The world isn't about the past. It's about the here.
>>729292234you’re an evil person in real life, I can also tell you never showered or brushed your rancid teeth in weeks, maybe months.
>>729292234I love evil women and purifying them while keeping a bit of their wild side in bed.
>>729292371Name 3 games that let you do this
>>729292356lol nice little fetish fantasy anontry not to cum just from reading my posts
>>729292234tranime pic checks out
>evil faction is better in every way, has better characters, and has funner stuff>only a quarter of the game's content and they canonically lose over and over>they later become lame because devs needed to make them less likable
>>729292398Uuuh... Jackie Chan!
>>729292338>Ulysses is obsessed with history and it has made him jaded, lonely, and has giving him nothingHmm, sounds like a criticism on the alt-right, to be quite honest.
>>729292210No I'm just many levels ahead of you.Besides any normie pacifist niceguy/girl will jump straight up to murder when npc is mildly irritating to them.
Every game which is more morally complex than good vs evil is always about Liberalism vs Authoritarianism and I'm sick of it.We can do different kinds of morality guys. Good of the many vs rights of the few. Nature vs Progress. Hell, make a whole game about the fucking trolly problem.
>>729292440Almost the Helghan to a T.Damn you, Guerilla Games.
>>729292618>We can do different kinds of morality guys.>Authority vs Liberty. Liberty vs Authority. Hell, make a whole game about the fucking trolly problem (Authority vs Liberty).
>>729292234BASED EVIL NIGGA
>>729291387
>>729292618The trolley problem is so boring, I've read 2 visual novels about it, they go back and forth for 20 hours long and the only solution they could find was going "Ah fuck all of this, let's just lie to ourselves." *greatest music theme of all time starts playing while the protagonist does cool anime shit*That's enough trolley problems for the rest of my life.
>Faction A is full of hypocritical cunts>Faction B is also full of hypocritical cunts>It's fine because they only serve as a vehicle to foster rivalry between players>Simultaneously itches the parts of the human brain that wants to hate shitty things and that also wants to be an evil, violent cuntThis is why it's very important for developers to let players be racist to each other.
>>729292608I must be in the minority, then. I only have two playthroughs: normie (whichever choice I like), and true pacifist (no kills or least amount of kills).I get a lot of shit for calling out people who reveal they’re psychopaths who kill or torture NPCs who insult their thin and fragile egos.
>>729293145Most people turn into complete psychos once something is irritating enough or against their worldview, only thing that stops constant murder on the streets is fact that it's hard to dispose body and police.
>>729291471its about 40k
>>729293750But every faction exept tau skin babies for breakfast and love killing, Tau are "only" totalitarian assholes bend on conquering the galaxy who are only diferent from rest by giving you chance to join them instead of just shooting you.
Faction A>pragmatic combatants, conventional weapons with extremely advanced air force>it's the idealist UN>faction color blue and gold Faction B>underhanded tictacs, few conventional weapons, mass deployed, yet extremely exotic technologies>what if Mao 's china, the Islamic state and the IRA had a babby>faction color red and black
>>729295627Why are the good guys pragmatic but the bad guys are underhanded?
>>729295675Because the exotic weapons are slightly less combat effective than the conventional weapons
Bad Faction: Just people living their livesGood Faction: Poors mad they're life isn't as good as the normal peoples.
>>729295959I will side with the good guys.
>>729295959This man dreams of having you as his slave
>>729294072look they just had to turn those people into servitors that feel nothing but painhow else would they open doors
>>729292523WTF Fallout is woke?!
>>729296220With their hands.
>>729296220Most servitors are vat grown flesh and not actuall people.Servitors are lobotomised to feel nothing and have no personality or memories left whatsoever, if lobotomy went correctly of course.
>>729296338That's not actually true. The proportion of "vat" servitors and normal ones isn't known, but it's more or less the same.And they do feel, depending on their class. Arco-Flagellants for one are made to feel agony and rage to turn them into berserk killing machines.
>>729292617There are no literal fascist movements in the western world at all, what the fuck lol
>>729291387Yeah, that's generally I don't play games. Of course, the problem is exacerbated a lot by the fact that the "good" faction is some simile of leftists or one of their brown pets (and tend to be extremely obnoxious, despite that not being the intention), while the bad guys are some variant of white/conservative people.
>>729296338You know I actually find vat grown servitors to be more horrifying than condemned criminals. At least the criminals did something to warrant their punishment, even if it was some irrelevant trifle. The vat grown people never even had a chance, they were just born and immediately lobotomized.
>>729296338>Most Servitors are manufactured by the Adeptus Mechanicus, either from genetically-engineered humanoid clones created for the purpose, or more commonly from criminals sentenced to Servitude Imperpituis, in which case their minds are wiped during processing.Imperium Maledictum Core Rulebook (2023), p. 322.
>>729296549Well, the radical left is certainly extremely authoritarian and narrow-minded, but they don't quite fit the bill of being fascist.
>>729296558You have a persecution complex. Also, you’re not white.
>>729296847You're just flat out denying reality, huh? Go fuck yourself, you disingenuous faggot.
>>729291387a: stormcloaksb: imperials>inb4 but-but stormcloaks are na-NO. Stormcloaks are the saviour of Tamriel and Nirn as a whole, merscum must be ERADICATED (khajiit are fine tho)
>>729296994>Stormcloaks are the saviour of Tamriel and Nirn as a wholeBecause they are Thalmor's puppets with sole goal of further weakening the Empire?
>>729291387>le good and le ebilthe enlightened mind understands that human nature is chaotic and disappointing. moralcucks can't even leave fiction alone these days
>writer decides to pander to faction B and make a story about how B's murder and human skin tshirts are actually something nuanced and they were the good guys all alongBig boss was just an evil guy with an evil retarded vision and lots of nukes, literally no one thought he was good before mgs3, why is kojima like this?
>>72929375040k is more like.Faction ALoves killing peopleDoes obscenely evil things for survivalFaction BLoves killing peopleDoes obscenely evil things for fun
>>729297971That's why orcs are my favorite faction. With everyone so miserable in the universe it's nice to have faction that actually has some fun.
>>729297971>Faction A>Loves killing people>Does obscenely evil things for survivalDark Eldar>Faction B>Loves killing people>Does obscenely evil things for funImperium and Craftworld Eldar.
>faction is clearly in the wrong >game still assumes you would side with it
>>729295627But the brotherhood is cooler.
>>729296338Actually it's the opposite, completely lobotomising them to make them unfeeling and mindless is seen as cruel since it would be destroying the soul. They're left with just enough brain left to suffer so they can be redeemed after death.
>>729291387because good writing is hard and some propaganda, next question
>>729298664>we need to torture people for survival!>and by survival I mean to keep our murder drug orgies, without them we'd be forced to become one of the other eldar factions who get along fine without it
>Faction A is retarded>Faction B is also poorly written>Faction C comes off as being dickheads, yet the only reasonable ones comparatively
>>729299136>Faction C is supposed to be the dedicated "bad guy faction who you should feel bad for joining" faction
>>729299124Without suffering they would die from starvation, Dark Eldar do all nasty stuff for survival, they need it, that they also enjoy doing it doesn't hurt them.
>>729298870Where did I say they weren't cool?
>>729291387>idealistic faggot faction>subhuman faction team picking in games is stupid in general
>>729291660I just set up a base in cannibal territory and see if I can make corpses faster than my dogs can eat them.So many fucking cannibals...
>>729299124DEldar gotta do all that nasty shit to literally not die before Slaanesh claims them for good. Considering their psychic powers also atrophied, they're lucky enough that they can also bring back their dead in a given window.
>>729299124I don't think Dark Eldar have CWE's soulstone tech.
>>729291387>>faction A is flawed but overall still the best option>>faction B is evil incarnate and eats puppies aliveOP, this board is for video games. Please discuss american electoral politics on >>>/pol/.
>>729299136>>729299284Any concrete exemples?
>>729300551as the second guy, no, i was just making shit up
>>729291387>faction A is full of evil assholes>faction B is full of evil assholes, but worse>no faction C that isn't a wretched hive of scum and villainyI like BG2, but they really should have allowed a third way with the Radiant Heart paladins to move the plot forward instead of having to choose between the Shadow Thieves or Bodhi's vampires. From what I heard, there's a mod that does this, guess I should give it a try
>>729300607Still has potential even as a shitpost, like the meme where the "good guys" are dorks with Temu-tier Flash Gordon gear and the "bad guys" are space Nazis with Jin-Roh-like armors, and you're supposed to root for the goodies and not the baddies.
