Well, /v/?Did you murder the cab driver's kids?
>>729315552i don't even remember that part
Blew up the coreKids go freeDelamin gets reset with his original parameters
>>729315552Nope, I merged them into one big happy family where he fucks off into the wild on a nice family road trip and gives me one of his kids as a slave.
>>729315552Well yes, for such an early quest they expect you to have a maxed out INT stat for a "good ending" option
>>729315552>murderImpossible; neither Del nor his subroutines are ensouled entities.>But muh soul doesn't exist.Conjecture by Alt indicates that it's at least a possibility that the soul exists.
>>729315552honestly cant remember exactly what i picked here. pretty sure i reset the system and annihilated the anomalies, since that is all they were.
>>729316870>soullol
Favorite quest?Sinnerman took me by surprise. Had two twists that actually did twisty shit, even though its very short and linear.
>>729317280Yes. Alt expresses that she (it) very much believes that the process of encoding V as an engram and then pulling a switcheroo will kill V, since it's of the opinion that a real form (soul) accompanies the essence (V), and that the process will irreparably destroy that real form.
>>729317706Alt (the AI that assumes her form, which is not actually Alt) has no way of knowing any of this.
>>729317706>>729317826
>>729317826>Alt (the AI that assumes her form, which is not actually Alt)Well, it's based off her engram, isn't it? It should be an expected shorthand to refer to it as Alt, especially since that happens in the game (though in Johnny's case we can just say it's because his engram can't let go or whatever).>has no way of knowing any of this.True, but metaphysics isn't exactly something that can be quantitatively proved with just the senses. It's not something that gets definitively answered in the narrative, either, but it's a strong possibility given how it's reasoned by an AI that has access to data involving both living persons and engrams.So, I think that it's entirely reasonable to qualify Del and his/its subroutines in that framework. So there is no murder, since neither Del nor anything Del has begotten are ensouled. >>729318383Not something that I would argue against.
>>729315552"Yes", it's just an AI, it didn't save you because of some moral duty but because that was its actual job. Besides Excelsior ends up does a better job at managing the company.>>729317423It's good because by the end of it you realise that the best moral choice was killing him and corpo bitch as you were originally hired to do so.
>>729315552The kids were cunts anyway. One of them was literally just GLaDOS. I don’t know the significance, but I did not like being reminded of that brainrot
>>729317423it looks like a fancy gta
>>729316689>max'd INTThe value scales based on your level, but it's a hard check regardless most of the time.>>729317423Sinnerman bored the shit out of me so I make a point to waste that faggot in the car every time. It's also possible, but difficult, to keep Jablonsky alive, too.>favorite questProbably when you go into the Cynosure core.And fuck the 'keep Idris Elba safe with a sniper rifle' for its RNG bullshit. I always have to restart it at least once to get a no detection run whenever I play. And almost always because of that 'quickly snipe two people at the end' bit.
>>729320479Its significantly more cinematic, and the combat is much more varied. Stealth+hacks plays great.Also driving is absolutely worse. Not really a car game, half the time I'm in a car its a dialogue and not a driving scene.
>>729320238>GLaDOSThat's what we call a 'cameo,' anon.
when they start referencing portal you know you have to kill them all
>>729317423One of the least replayable quests in the game. I always just cheese it by killing the cop bodyguard in subsequent playthroughs
>>729317423this quest was a huge disappointment
>>729321746>>729321694>>729321076>>729320160What kind of person dislikes Sinnreman?Do you dislie it because you are religious and think its blasphemous, or because you are a fedora and think its fake?
>>729317423That one where you came across the father and son making snuff bds. Really good voice acting if you kill one and leave the other to grieveAlso the mayor being indoctrinated quest was good
Can't remember, I just did whatever pissed off Johnny the most.
>>729315552Computer programs are not alive.Yes this includes jhonny, him and his girlfriend are fucking dead.
>>729317423Trying to find River’s nephew. Kinda makes me wish for a detective game in the same setting
>>729321816NTAs but I'm religious and my issue was that the pacing was really off that quest, and if you're like me and you got to it at a high level, you might kill everyone and lock yourself out of it by doing your job well
>>729321816Careful with the fedora accusations. It's a great and memorable quest but it basically has 0 "traditional" gameplay and because of that it's kinda tedious on a 5th playthrough
>>729322036>sells his soul to the most evil corporation ever just own some engram of a washed up rocker
This quest was freaking epic
>>729321816I liked that it was just a delusional tard getting used by corpos and you can't do shit about it.
>>729322352this shit made me suicidal
>>729317423Probably the entire Peralez storyline. Seeing that entire surveillence setup in their apartment, investigating the signal, figuring out that you're way in over your head, seeing Blue Eyes when you tell Peralez your findings...
>>729321816Nothing really happens in that quest. You mostly just follow new Jesus around as he rambles on. But I still like the quest because not many games lets you crucify people
>>729322159Aye, the pacing for Sinnerman is balls. I enjoyed it for what it was but the intro for it is a real headscratcher. >get regular agent job>try and do it like you'd do any other agent job>die, or otherwise lock yourself out of the actual quest>dude who hired you to help him get justice for his son is just kinda capped and no one gives a shitThere's got to be a better way, honestly.
>>729322352this shi made me crash out fr
>>729322476the writing was comically shit(as opposed to just normal shit like the rest of the game), but what the quest really exposed to me was the embarrassing mission design. I dropped the game shortly after, can't remember the exact point but I'm pretty sure the game locked me into another 20 minute braindance so I quit out and never started it up again
>>729317423>You CAN NOT kill him and do the job you were hired for.Nice player agency you got in your rpg there.
pon pon shit
>>729322248You two seem to have a lot in common. You're both seething little bitches.
>>729322859You can actually but his bodyguard has unfair stats so you gotta cheese it. Also no saves up to this point to further deincentive you.
>>729321816I did the whole quest once and found it more boring than anything else, although I'm glad it's in the game.
>>729322002>Also the mayor being indoctrinated quest was goodthis was kino, i just wish there was a follow up as was heavily implied would be
>>729322167>>729322159The Oblivion quest with the people locked in a house, you killing them one by one, is similarly atypical. its also my favorite quest in that game.
>>729322859>you can not kill himYou absolutely can. Just run up to the side of the police SUV and blast his ass. He slumps forward a little, so it's hard to tell, but he absolutely can be killed. I did the quest this way in my first five playthroughs before I even realized he could survive and there was a different outcome.>>729323006Mr. Blue Eyes' content was among a lot of the stuff cut, including the rumored moon DLC. A tragedy, I agree.
>>729322859You know, you could at play the game first.
>>729322036based, fuck johnny
>>729323104Doing the opposite of what Johnny wants is probably a good playthrough.
>>729317423Max Tac convoy and NCX terminal quests. Phantom Liberty in general mogs the main quest so hard it's not even funny. I would actually wish that the PL questline was the main one (and longer). But maybe i'm biased because i really like spy themes and Bond movies.
what do you guys want in a sequel?
>>729323072>>729323096I blew up the truck and the officer, girl and killer were all just sitting in the burning husk, oblivious.No when i shot the guy he did not "slump".
>>729323553turned based crpg
>>729323340Unless you want to get the secret (best) ending path, maybe.>>729323553For it to be made by someone other than CDPR.>>729323562IDK what to tell you, anon. You can absolutely, 100% kill the prisoner in the convoy and complete the quest as written. Maybe you played an early/unpatched version or something.
>>729323363Nah johnny just ruins the main story.PL is just a more fun story.
i wish lizzy wizzy wasn't so ugly, she has potential
>>729323663>Unless you want to get the secret (best) ending path, maybe.The "Johnny tricks Rogue again and finishes her off on the third attempt" ending?
>>729323663So can you actually save the guy who hired you now?What happens?
>>729322859>individually drive nails into him until he bleeds outseems like you killed him to me
>cant just ride into the sunset and die on the road
>>729323851You know what i mean.
>>729323941That's one of the endings though.
>>729323941i hate this hoe. she definitely fucks all her guy friends
>>729324030She fucks every cowboy in her camp, but she won't fuck my female Vee.
>>729323553It being a prequel
>>729323701>johnny just ruins the main storyWouldn't say so because his input in PL is very good. It's more that PL is tightly written without weird pacing issues like the main quest.
>>729323941I find it strange how you have the option to demand payment from Panam for helping her get Saul, but not Judy with her Clouds bullshit. Wtf kinda bullshit is this?
THEYRUINEDADAMSMASHER
>It's fine Oda, you can sit and watch."
>>729324130He has input in the DLC?Maybe i've been too busy ignoring him but i don't remember him opening his mouth besides the time he talks about some singer or whatever at the party.
>>729317423The one where you investigate a murder, and find a totally insane maelstrom guy in a freezer in a junkyard. Its one of the few quests in the game where an enemy actively fucks with your perception, leaving after images, fucking with the arena lights, while continuously glitching your screen.
>>729324132I think the whole couds thing is established as a favour, nobody talks about payment.Meanwhile saul's part of the main story, right?
>>729315552Nah I liberated them. I even respected the one's right to end his own life soon as he had agency over it.
>>729315552didn't have enough intelligence check for hack so reset was only feasible option
>>729317423>Favorite quest?The Killing Moon. No moment in the game gave me so much adrenalinehttps://youtu.be/FfzUkUVawaU?si=jp3HOQcJOiwMCbBL&t=128
>>729324024But only after you do the insane suicide mission on Arasaka, right?Why can't I leave with them here, when they offer, before killing a bunch of people?
>>729324679Because killing is cool
>>729324679Because V doesn't want to die i guess.So when he still has hope he's going to at least try.
>>729323724No, the suicide run ending with just you going into Arasaka Tower alone.
>>729324332Yeah he chips in a lot. Actually gives good insight to what's happening too. But probably only when you are on good terms with him.He also has a very tear jerking send off in the FIA ending
>>729315552ai is LITERALLY the devil in this setting and delamain saved my life & wants to be reset, so that's what I did
>>729325092You're friends with the devil?
My tummy hurts
>>729325092>AI is the devilNo, the old internet is an analog for cyber hell and the rogue AIs there are (at worst) demons who will kill you for fun just as easily as they could leave you alone.>>729325196If he made friends with the 'Devilmain' variant of Delamain, maybe. The one you find in the junkyard outside of Night City.
>>729325946They're all delamain, and none of them are real.This motherfucker became friends with grok.
>>729325196I owe one cyber demon my life and it wants less ai running around causing trouble and making portal references in tyool 2077, so it's an overall net positive
>>729326223Grok is a language learning model, not real AI, so not as applicable
>>729323553more redheads
>>729321816His whole shtick is looking for forgiveness but agrees to get used by a corporation for their own profit.He chose to work with that corporation, he chose to get crucified, he also chose to do all those media appearances that put him in the spotlight and at that point it's rather clear that he mostly wants to be remember rather than forgiven.Killing him outright is unironically the moral thing to do there by night city standards
>>729327156his options were>get executed in jail (nobody knows him)>get executed by corpo (maybe 0.0001% of the people who watch his snuff film get touched in some way)
>>729325230literally me
>>729327156>His whole shtick is looking for forgiveness but agrees to get used by a corporation for their own profit.He specifically says he wants to use the mass media to spread the message of God's light and forgiveness.
>>729324275how?t. nodice
>>729328737he was a boss you fight and kill, instead of Superman Batman.
>>729322036This.
