>>729316840
Remove the gay lights and cut off $100

>>729316840
>Nvidia
There's your problem

>>729316840
>Those specs
>High end
If you're a jeet maybe.

>>729316916
Components and cases without RBG are 10-20% more expensive.

There's literally nothing to play with a high-end machine. It's pointless.

>>729317036
this is true and funny.

Also OP, just make payments, you have a job right?

>>729317173
>make payments,
Don't be retarded. If he can't afford to save up for one he can't afford the uncertainty that comes with 2 years of paying down a computer of all things.

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>>729316840
It is the '90s again.

>>729317143
True, I regret building with a 9070xt instead of opting for a 1080p microatx board with some older card. I'd be just as happy with most of what I play anyway.

>>729316840
And PC gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies you can have.

>>729316840
What are you going to play with that PC?
Bonerlands 4? LMAO
This whole generation sucks dick and no AAA games are worth playing.
So the only reasonable thing to do is to buy an older PC and play PS4(at 1080p+ High+ settings) and below that era games including emulation.
What kind of mark even wants to play ai slop like all the current games are anyway?
This PC is for hobby shit like 3D modeling and video editing/ HD streaming and thus is irrelevant for this board.

>>729317606
not wrong, BUT! while he is saving for the computer at this price, the ram crisis gets worse and now this computer in that time becomes 1K more in price. This is the one time I would say for someone with a stable job to make payments on a power PC especially if it's part of their livelihood. I would do 6 or 12 month payments tho.

>>729317607
there were ram shortages in the 90s but this one is different. I dont think we're coming back from this one.

>>729316840
I already paid around 2k for a computer with a 9800x3d, 32 gigs of ddr5 and 9070xt before the prices started rocketing.
I hate my country

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>>729316840
>high-end
>pre-built

>>729318207
it will cost more if you try to buy the components and build it yourself now. the pre-built companies have acquired ram stock (for now) if you buy it on the open market you will pay scalper prices.

>>729318316
I'd rather take the hit than buy a shitty pre-built.

>>729316840
yeah because 64 gigs of ddr5 now costs as much as a 5080.

>>729317821
If someone's in a position where he needs to finance a $2,400 purchase he either doesn't have a stable job or lacks the fiscal sense to keep himself treading water.
It might make sense insofar as the parts will be more expensive next year but the financial death spiral it tees him up for is unacceptable imo.

>>729318584
>financial death spiral
only if you cant make the payments reliably, but maybe you're someone that never makes payments on anything i guess.

>>729317887
There were ram shortages because everyone was buying PCs

>>729316840
give me one game that isnt woke trash or worse than its predecessor that cant run on gtx1070

>>729316840
Is the used PC market furked yet?

the only reason to own a strong gpu these days is wan video generation, there is absolutely NO good games, everything good already exists and it was released gens ago

>>729318720
Consumers right? not B2B? There wasnt enough ram to keep up with demand. We just had a major RAM manufacture pull out of making consumer RAM period. I think thats different, no?

>>729318857
Meds

>>729318817
a little but it will get worse. buy now.

>>729318673
Yeah, what I'm saying is that if someone does not have 2400 on hand or the ability to have it on-hand shortly he is less likely to be able to make those payments consistently whether its lifestyle creep from multiple "easy" payment plans adding up or some sort of personal emergency like a surgery or car break-down. 2 years is a long time to lock yourself in for a luxury item that just lets you spend more money on luxuries.

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I can buy this:
>AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (8C/16T, up to 5.4 GHz, AM5, no cooler)
>Phanteks Eclipse G360A Mid Tower case (black)
>ASUS B650E MAX GAMING WIFI motherboard (AM5, ATX, DDR5)
>ASUS Prime GeForce RTX 5070 OC (12GB GDDR7)
>Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR5 6000 MHz 32GB (2×16GB)
>WD Green SN3000 NVMe SSD 2TB (PCIe Gen4, M.2)
>Phanteks AMP GH 750W power supply (80+ Gold, fully modular)
>Cooler Master ML360L Core ARGB 360mm liquid CPU cooler
for 2k USD. Worth or trash?

>>729319059
>5070
i thought all the 5 series cards were trash?

>>729316840
2 and a half grand only buys you 32GB memory these days? LOL

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>>729319248
Things have gotten bad, and they're going to get worse before they get better.
Console prices are going to be interesting to watch.

>>729319098
I have no fucking idea when it comes to PC components, hence why I'm asking
I don't really play a lot of high end shit, but I'm thinking of picking up Rogue Trader and play some POE2

>>729319372
lol, should I buy used ram on ebay?

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>>729319468
Enterprising scalpers have already beaten you to market

>>729319059
What games, what operating system and what resolution?

>>729316840
pfft my friend paid more than that for his 5080 prebuilt awhile ago

>>729319462
>I don't really play a lot of high end shit
then you might be okay with a less expensive card, but then again, this could very well be the last PC you or anyone ever builds so....

>>729317143
Can't even play stuff on the highest settings with 120+ fps anyways with a 5090 kekarooo!

>>729316840
Didn’t they used to be $4000 or so? People are complaining about this?

>>729319989
4k machine would get you a flagship GPU

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>>729319629
Minecraft, Terraria, some PS2 games, and I'm thinking of playing POE2, Rogue Trader and some of the Assassin Creed games. And maybe Warhammer SP2 when it gets a nice discount
>OS
Sadly, windows. Only reason is due to CSP not being natively available on linux
I've tried Krita and it's not the same
>What res
1080p
>>729319862
Maaaybe

>>729319989
4k machines were literally top of the line for consumer grade parts.

>>729319098
70ti (not 70) and 90 are good, it's only notably the 5080 that's bad.

>>729320113
You really don't need a 5070 at 1080p. You'd be fine with a 9060xt or a 5060 and save yourself several hundred dollars.

>>729316840
>5070
>high end

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>saves pc gaming

>>729319372
I got 96gb of that shitty crucial ram for 230 yesterday.

>>729319248
32gb is the new high-end. We went back in standards.

>>729320530
>shitty
Crucial RAM is objectively great, though.

>>729320287
Never ever tell people to get the 5060, that thing is an abysmall piece of dogshit, you don't want to go under the 5070 this gen.
The 9060xt is a good call.

>>729320694
>5600mhz cl46
That's not great.

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>>729320287
But isnt the 5070 nice to have when it comes to rendering in blender?

>>729318861
The consumer market has obviously begun to dry up. Most PC games don't need high end components and the users have no appetite to upgrade until they were told they can't.

>>729316840
I paid 3k for mine back in March. Same specs but with a 5080.

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>>729316840
I literally got this on black friday with exact specs, same one but by HP for 1,200. I hate the lights though, who wants lights like this? women?

>>729318316
nah

>>729320875
>tfw got 5060ti
its over.

>>729320875
>>729321909
>5060
apparently it does ctds abound and at random

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>>729321909
might as well cut off half of your edge connector, the thing is pcie x8, lmao

>>729316840
Crazy that the fucking RAM and SSD are the most expensive things on this machine at the moment.

>>729321212
its a beast for generating aijeet stuff too

>>729317143
Minecraft

>>729316840
is this the worst time to build a computer... ever? i guess you could argue that back in the day when like 5 megabytes of ram was normal things were worse, but they were probably cheaper

>>729316840
>5070 ti
>16 gb of ram
>high end
lmao That's mid tier at best.

>>729316840
Sounds like 2003 all over again.

>>729317143
CHADhammer CHADce CHADrine II

>>729322978
wont be needing that, unless AI can help me with texture painting

>>729316840
If you would have bought during Black Friday it would have been 1900.

Never built a pc, going to go to Microcenter and build something a 9070xt before things get even more expensive. That should be decent right? Should I build it just for that or pay more to be able to upgrade to better graphics card later?

>>729323172
It's 16gb VRAM, 32gb of mobo RAM. Are you illiterate?
Still not crazy, but considering the state of things, 32gb is the best anyone can hope for right now.

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>>729316840
Why are you people so poor?

>>729323172
gaming is about to slow down due to the ai boom coming. this next gen is gonna stretch about a decade and a half

>>729316840
That's a budget pc
High end stuff are 4000

>>729323987
>msi
oof

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>>729323987
I could spend 10k on a PC if I wanted, but literally what is the point?
Playing dogshit AAA slop? Generating AI slop?

>>729321720
Nah it's true. I got a new PC during cyber monday sales and it cost less to get a pre-built than the parts themselves. They have stockpiles they bought for bulk rates so they can do that.

>>729324178
Msi is the only company I haven't had issues with customer service being unresponsive.
They will even do warranty repairs on used things if they are less than two years old, Asus sure won't do that.

>>729321212
A render of what?

>>729324760
A high definition futa elf cock

>>729324586
In the last 20 years I havent had a single MSI product that hasn't failed across 8 motherboards and 6 GPUs. Only GPU company I haven't had issues with was PNY.

>>729324825
yikes

>>729324825
yummy

>>729317887
>SSD cancer finally gets culled to meet demands for actually useful hardware
>We get very spinny 24Gb/s water-cooled spinning rust that sounds like a fucking jet engine and uses regenerative braking to recoup energy when seeking

>>729317143
this plus seeing how god awful some versions are (MH Wilds) I'm more and more inclined to not upgrade.

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>>729325778
>ssd cancer

>RAM made by three companies acting like a cártel
>AI companies making the final push to dry the consumer PC market and push for their 'cloud gaming' services
Weeeeew guys, who could have ever imagined that having a USA president sucking big tech bro dick would get these results.

>>729316840
Dude, that's actually a bargain o_O

>Bought a 5090, 64gb of ram, and a couple 1tb M.2's literally a couple months before all of this went down

WHEW

I changed my mind: I WILL own nothing and I WILL be happy. You will, too.

>>729326678
>1tb m.2
>but buys a 5090
Why?

>>729326916
My microcenter only had 1tb m.2s in stock that day

>>729316916
RGB literally doesn't cost more, what are you, fucking retarded? How about you don't comment on high-end PC building discussions while your most recent PC building knowledge is from 2004 you fucking self-absorbed edgelord nigger.

>>729316840
oh well. we just won't buy games then (or play older ones)

>>729319059
That went for 1k max a few months ago

>>729317036
The worst thing is that for whatever reason there are no cheap cases with a front mesh and no stupid ass glass panel.

>>729327513
>RGB literally doesn't cost more
This is true
non-RGB components cost more
Unless you pay the straight male tax you're getting rainbows

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>>729316840
>5070ti
>high end
LMFAO at thirdieniggers

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>>729317173
>just make payments on entertainment products

>>729325914
>more and more inclined to not upgrade
Same here, I'm even contemplating downgrading.

If prices go down I think I'll go ahead and build a pc
Don't think they'll make anything worth playing by then but it would be nice to have for other things

>>729328445
I gave in and bought 64GB of DDR4 because I only have 16 right now and I might as well since I have tons of shit open at the same time

>5070
>high-end
Kek

>christmas
>tell family I didn't want anything except a new graphics card for my build
>went out to lunch at a shit tier chink restaurant even though i asked to go to a Japanese steakhouse
>parents bring along my roastie half sister
>oh well
>order orange chicken
>waitress can't speak a word of english
>she brings me out general tso's chicken instead
>too spicy and nasty as fuck
>mostly play genshin while they talk about football and drink
>try to buy me a beer (turned 32 last month)
>i don't drink
>step dad excuses himself and goes to car
>fucking finally getting my presents
>few cards a bag and a box
>cards all had cash and gift cards
>unthoughtful but okay
>bag had a jersey in it with my name on the back
>i don't even fucking like sports
>just grin and bear it
>at least theres the box which should be my 5080
>open up the box
>its heavier than I thought
>its actually a fucking PS5 with a copy of Black Ops 7
>start laughing uncontrollabiy
>half sister says she waited in line for it
>laughing harder
>they ask if somethings wrong
>tell them how dumbfounded i was they thought i wanted one instead of the graphics card that i fucking asked for
>they get all faggy and my bitch mom says "you play so much on your computer we thought you'd want one
>try to explain WHY I play on the computer instead of consoles
>they don't understand
>step dad says i should be thankful
>"thanks for nothing"
>they all storm out
>go home
>get the reciept for it
>drive to Best Buy by myself
>return It to best buy and just ordered my 5080

>>729329384
someone already posted this in the other thread unc

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>>729329384
I'm not reading all that
happy for you though - or sorry that it happened

>>729330295
Who actually bought this shit? Basic 4chanology should let you know that it's a shitpost the moment they had to paranthesize that they're 32

>>729316840
This isn't even mid range. It's "quality" budget tier, just a step above poorfag tier.

Have you ever considered simply not being poor? Why is that so hard for you?

>>729316840
>now
They've been between 4-5k for years

>>729331038
back to sharty

>>729331090
There’s a newfag born every day.

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>back to sharty

>>729333180
it sucks there I assume, that's why they come back

there isnt really a reason to build a gaming PC these days. not a single decent game out there. oh wow you can play cyberpunk on max graphics. was it worth paying $4k?

>>729334619
Just admit you're poor

>>729317143
Nooooo you NEED fake 4k and ray tracing for..... Uh..... Uhh... STOP PLAYING CLASSIC GAMES THAT FIT ON A DVD ROM!!!

>>729334619
>buy 5090
>max out cyberpunk, looks nice but gameplay is still the same and I can’t get into it
>max out MH Wilds, still looks like festering dogshit and I still can’t bring myself to even get through a single hunt
>max out Diablo 4, still get FPS drops to 30s in Kurast
>max out racing games, still nothing looks better than GT7 especially in VR
>go back to playing CoD on my portal and Megabonk on my deck
>money well spent?
At least I’m set for a few years.

>>729335750
exactly. id have buyers remorse if i bought that shit. nothing is worth playing

>>729323993
Thank fuck, the last 15 years has been full of hardcore shit. We need to slow down. Focus on mechanics.

>>729316840
>high end
lol

>>729335750
Yeah, basically

>>729316840
That's entry level.

>>729324421
there is no point at all, especially given how pozzed mainstream games have become. the price hike is a pump n dump due to the ai bubble. the doomposters gave in to the panic

>>729335506
Uh...how about I play some games that fit on a CD-ROM.

>>729318207
Why do people record videos of themselves being humiliated,?

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>>729316840
>tfw you got a 9800x3d 5070ti prebuilt for 1699

>>729316840
This is not a high end pc

>>729319059
Meh

>>729323987
>no threadripper
>not even a 9950
Latter would've still made you a poorfag anyway.

>>729320373
How did they do it?

>>729324421
>Generating AI slop?
Yes

>>729341374
Let's see your specs faggot.

>>729316840
So like 3 weeks of minimum wage work in America.. if you can't come up with that you don't really need it

>>729316937
I still need to upgrade my 4090 to a truly high end 9070XT by the superior AMD. I bet my framerates will triple with a card that's 3 years newer.

>>729316840
x3d cpus are a scam and dont matter for the vast majority of games

>>729318584
I always read about people falling in Love scams and sending over $ 5,000 USD to people of Nigeria or Russia. If they send that money, they has money for a gaming PC

>>729344814
Those are old women emptying their 401ks because they think someone who loves them is in an emergency

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>>729316840
>High-end gaming PCs are now well over $2k.

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>>729323987
>His gaming PC is ultra high-end!
Nice!

>>729340915
Was it used? That's a really amazing deal!

My dad got one of those big ass curved gaming monitors for Christmas. When he went to plug it in he found his integrated graphics couldn't output the required aspect ratio for it. When he started looking at graphics card prices, his face looked like his heart had been ripped from his chest.

>>729316840
>high end
>can't do 1440p 144hz or 4k 60 fps onm ultra
yeah lmao nice joke

>>729316937
He said high end

>>729317143
Man this was me even back in 2013. Liquid cooled my own set up, spent $2000 and then played old infinity engine and flash games

>>729316840
If you don't have at least x20 that on your bank account right now, what the hell are you doing with your life??

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>graphics faggotry in 2026
Modern gayming may as well be a scam what with intentionally unoptimized games to sell ai frame upscale gpus.
Graphics don't even look better than shit that came out decade before and there is 0 gameplay to speak of.
PC "master" race may as well be gaming equivalent of buying latest iphone status signalling among retarded npcs.
This isn't hobby at this point. This is consumerism. The fact you come here to fight anons and call them poorfags instead of playing your triple a slop is the proof.