Top 10 reasons why this game sucks dick>10. story is a convoluted self-insert reader x Emet-Selch FF14 fanfiction that rips off Final Fantasy Tactics and indie games>9. game's big lesson is that gaming and escapism are le bad, being suicidal and genocidal is le good. Pls don't think too much or the whole plot falls apart>8. gaming equivalent of Oscar bait>7. filled with suffering and futility because the french think hemorrhoids are the greatest form of artistic expression>6. runs like absolute shit because the entire game came straight out of a prompt running Unreal Enjeet5>5. zero cultural impact thanks to the lack of nuance. There is zero fanfiction, fanart or discussion. Every discussion about this game is exclusively about how it is not as good as it is made out to be, written by anyone who thought about it for more than two minutes >4. soundtrack was made on Suno and propped up by some bullshit that they hired a Soundcloud rapper to make the music when the composer (who might as well be the french Junichi Masuda) can barely look at the camera because he is running a scam>3. all characters are bobble-headed creepy things who are>2. obnoxious Paper Mario mechanics forced in to appeal to non-RPG fans>1. It is not an RPG, it has one (1) player choice that matters and that only alters one cutscene in this movie gameAnother problem is this shit 'Thank you' DLC, which is the devs whoring themselves out of the players to beg them to gib awards to their ChatGPT game. It is not the devs being good to fans, it is cheap fan pandering to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
>>729319348>Unc got filtered by the parryLMAOOOOOO
>>729319348>>1. It is not an RPG, it has one (1) player choice that matters and that only alters one cutscene in this movie gameReally? I haven't played it, or rather I dropped it in tutorial, but I thought the game had multiple endings
>>729319529You make a choice at the very end and your final battle and ending is different based on it. There are only two options, and everything else in the game is simply there for its own sake.
>>729319431This. The "audio cue" as a talking point is a self report
>>729319348I'm not reading all of that, faggot.It's the GOTY and it's not even close.
>>729319348>1. It is not an RPG, it has one (1) player choice that matters and that only alters one cutscene in this movie gameuhhh dont tell FF devs about their games
>>729319681 So it’s basically the illusion of choice parading around with an “artsy” coat of paint. Sick. All those side quests and interactions just to funnel into the same two-bit ending split. I’d almost respect it if it embraced being a glorified VN, but nah, they had to pretend it was deep. You could replace the entire midsection with a jpeg slideshow and no one would notice.
>>729319348You didn't understand the game's message
>Atlus/Falcom faggot STILL seething the game BTFO every non-Persona 5 game.LMAO
>>729319348Hello sirs. I am very white and I hate E33. It is very bad izzat
Paper Mario mogs this shit anyday
>>729319348>It is not an RPG, it has one (1) player choiceUnder this autism, Square has never produced a real RPG in their entire existenceIn fact it would mean most games which people place on their top RPG lists would not actually be RPGsUnder this autism, ALL computer RPGs cannot be RPGs because they inherently limit the amount of choice a player has, preventing them from truly roleplaying.
>>729320051The only true Final Fantasy game is VI, which is ripping off Chrono Trigger.This game does not deserve the name of RPG, it isn't anything like Fallout New Vegas, Dragon Age Origins, Baldur's Gate series, Disco Elysium or Mass Effect.>>729320192What message is there exactly? It feels like a PSA, and the game insists on itself to convince you into buying the .Spoiler alert, for those who have zero taste and will still play this game and shill it like it is RPG of the year:>your team leaves Lumière to save the people of the city>game goes out of its way to convince you that killing everyone and destroying the world is le good ending>central to this is the Alicia x Verso dispute, 2025's version of the Starchild from Mass Effect 3The only thing that could have saved the game is if the Verso instrumentality theory became popular.>>729320132The entire game is a slideshow due to the awful frame reat from the engine. The devs are waiting for their Claude subscription to update the coding to learn how to optimize.
>wasting Christmas on hating a video game
>>729319348Could've just posted an image, anon.
>>729320602>Under this autism, ALL computer RPGs cannot be RPGs because they inherently limit the amount of choice a player has, preventing them from truly roleplayingNot true. Computer games have been the greatest form of electronic roleplay since maybe the early 90s with text-based games. They have as much roleplaying as a module of WoD or D&D. That is the entire appeal of cRPGs, which is trying to be actual RPGs and enabling as much consequential player choice as possible.This is a movie game with two endings, it is not a cRPG and is not trying to be.
You didn't play the game and mistake endings for player options. You have option to kill the white nevrons and you have romance options as 2 examples.The other reason I can tell is you couldn't come up with 10 actual criticisms like the platforming sections, no mini map (which would be fine if there wasn't invisible walls everywhere), and Monoco get unlocked too late for being the blue mage archetype discouraging using him because you have to go back to earlier areas.
>>729319348Game of the decade, if you want my opinion. You do, because I have amazing taste.
>>729320737>The only true Final Fantasy game is VI, which is ripping off Chrono Trigger.FFVI released a year earlier than Chrono Trigger
>>729319348i simply don't like how it looks. the graphic/art style looks like a turd was shat on it.
>>729320976>game of the yearIt is not even RPG of the year, and people have realized this already. Only people still shilling ExpeditionGPT are non-RPG fans.
>>729320882No, because in D&D I can do anything I want.In any RPG run on a machine, I cannot do anything I want. I can only do what is allowed and accounted for by the developer.Therefore, a real RPG is not possible on a computer system.The only way is through digital tabletop games.
>>729321137>lgbtslop Go back
>>729320882It's not a crpg but it is an rpg just for its mechanics.
>>729321257Bla bla blaExpeditionGPT is immunized against all dangers. You may call it AI slop, pretentious garbage, visually confused Paper Mario. It all falls like rain off a raincoat. But say it is not an RPG and watch how it recoils. How offended it is. How it shrieks, "I've been found out!"Cry more. Assassin's Creed Shadows and Avowed have more player choice.Do not dare calling Planescape or Dragon Age Origins not RPGs. Dragon Age has more endings than this game has player choices.
>>729321042This. I will never play this game, because the textures, art direction, and animations look like complete ass. The story and world just looks fucking dumb, and puts pretentious makeup on to cover it up. The visuals are clearly much more AI assisted than advertised, and poorly covered up, or it's all a copy pasted collage of UE5 assets.
This game runs on my Rog Ally. Time to stop being a poor.
>>729320737The game doesn't go out of its way to paint the Maelle ending as the right one. There would simply be no dilemma if the Maelle ending were too positive, no reason to choose Verso's, but the direction of the other ending hints that things aren't as happy as they seem.
>>729319348>>729321517>>729321594just say you're a shit-eating nintendo corposlave, it's faster
>>729321410These people refuse to acknowledge that RPGs, like any type of game, are mechanically defined.For their argument to make any sense, the ONLY thing that matters is the amount of player choice available.>>729321517You're the one being autistic about choice.If that's your defining feature, then there is not a single video game RPG that can truly claim the title, because you will be invariably given a scenario where you have very few available options.
>AIIEEEEE I NEED MY GAY ROMANCE ENDING SAVE ME SWEETBABYMANNNNNywnbaw
>>729321693>>729321693>If that's your defining feature, then there is not a single video game RPG that can truly claim the title, because you will be invariably given a scenario where you have very few available optionsYou are poisoning the well. You think every turn-based combat game is an RPG. Then you set this impossible standard of infinite player choice, mistakingly thinking that RPG modules have infinite player choice. They have not.From -5 to +5, with -5 being a movie game like 'The Last of Us' and +5 being a cRPG like Dragon Age Origins, ExpeditionGPT is a -3.>-5: The Last of Us (no player choice, level-based)>-4: Zelda / Metroidvania (no player choice, level-based, has skilltree and sidequests. Pseudo-RPG)>-3: God of War 4 / Ragnarok (no player choice, level-based, has skilltree and sidequests)>-2: Final Fantasy (all except VI) / Paper Mario / ExpeditionGPT (no player choice, implicitly level based, skilltree and sidequests)>-2: Final Fantasy (all except VI)>-1: Elden Ring / Bloodborne (consequential player choice, multiple endings)>+1: Avowed / Fallout 4, 3 (act based, post hoc consequential player choice, multiple endings)>+2: Elder Scrolls series (benchmark)>+3: Mass Effect series (act based, consequential player choice, multiple endings, limited moral compass player choice)>+4: Pillars of Eternity 1 / Tyranny / Fallout New Vegas (act based roleplaying game)>+5: Baldur's Gate 3 / Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous / Dragon Age / Pillars of Eternity 2 / Tabletop gamesNow, ask yourself. Does your game have more RPG features than a FromSoftware game?
>>729321674Almost as fast as you projecting that you're butthurt and grasping at straws to protect your gay french game, that passes off being dumb and lazy as an artistic statement. So, the usual for the French.
>player choice is how many endings a game hasretard
>>729319348The cope for this game is crazy. Normies and lowest common denominator fags self-reporting. We know you're retarded, you don't have to broadcast it for the world to see.
>>729322721This guy is the one you should all listen to.Beyond this discussion, there hasn't been any player choice in any genre for decades. Even in RPG's built specifically around player choice, it was all an illusion.Like Mass Effect, the plot has like three main pathways, and all you do is choose how to distribute two different kinds of frosting on its cake. Nearly every goddamn choice was an illusion of choice. The plot unfolds in a barely deviating path, and hits all the same stops on the railroad. I've yet to find one goddamn player choice game where that isn't the case, except for shit like Slay the Princess. Players unironically get more choice in a game like Elden Ring or Skyrim, than any standard wRPG or JRPG I can think of.
>>729319348i don't hate it, but after just 20 minutes i quickly realized the only thing people do really care about IS the story, everything else is mid and or sucks that's fine, but you really should read more books
>>729319348You lost, Kojimbo. Give it up
popcorn game for netflix normies. you're not real gamers, e33ers, just admit it... or go back to resetera where you belong.
>>729323176Endings are not important, they are easy and cheap to make. Making one player choice affect the entire rest of the game like true cRPGs do is the actual feat.Make one player choice relevant after you leave the area like act-based RPGs such as Avowed or worse, make one or two player choice in the entire game after you leave a specific area and have that final choice only affect the game ending is possibly the worst, most non-RPG approach possible. That is what ExpeditionGPT does.
>>729319348>Story is convolutedWritten by a pajeet retard
>>729324331What you want is AI to write you a new ending for every choice you make. Very jeet adjacent behavior tbdesu.
>>729324573I refuse to call an "RPG" a game with less choice than Bloodborne.
It's hilarious how /v/ turned a complete 360 on this game after learning it used AI.You sucked its dick 2 weeks ago and wouldn't accept a word of criticism, now it's literally satan.
>>729324873You should stick to TellTale games. Real RPG chads only care about choosing their party and their build.
>>729325224you don't even know what rpg means you fucking retard.
>>729325098it's always been a 3/5 game for me. keep being a sheep, subhuman.
>tfw shit tons of awards
>>729325476You're confusing RPG with choose your own adventure book and interactive movies.
>>729319348OP a fag and a Jeet.
>>729325912You are confusing RPG with turn-based action game.
>>729321517>ExpeditionGPT is immunized against all dangers.Especially against lies like yours. Unless you're willing to show one thing in the game that was made with AI and proof that it was made with AI.And it's as much of an RPG as JRPGs are. If you don't consider E33 an RPG, then you don't consider JRPGs RPGs. You're absolutely free to have that opinion, but it's only your opinion. Most people think JRPGs are RPGs, and since E33 is a JRPG in everything but the country of origin, it's also an RPG.
>>729326193>JRPGs are just Final Fantasy>what is Chrono Trigger, a SNES game that is more of an RPG than Expedition 33 and would have sweeped the awards if it had been released thirty years later, in the year of material deterioration 2025>what is PersonaThe japanese JRPG genre unfortunately includes non-RPGs like Zelda and Paper Mario and Expedition 33, it is a prostituted genre that should not be included as the same as real RPGs.What is this hostage argument of 'If you disavow ExpeditionGPT, you disavow all JRPGs' if not a confession that you are not truly an RPG fan.
>>729326138I see where you are confused. The G in RPG means game.
>>729326530persona is less of a jrpg than e33
Reason 1: too many black npcs in the opening chapter
>>729326834I've got great news for you
>>729326530A typical oldschool JRPG is exactly like E33. They have the same core gameplay structure: map, entering towns (exploration, talking to NPCs, trading) and dungeons (exploration, finding chests, turn-based fights, leveling characters).Persona and Chrono Trigger aren't typical representation of the traditional JRPG format, although Chrono Trigger is very close. Persona, to be honest, is less of a JRPG than a typical oldschool JRPG, because its "RPG" is diluted through the addition of standard dating sim elements (daily life, choosing activities, passage of time, increasing non-combat stats needed for activities, romancing - literally what you can find in standard Japanese dating sims that aren't RPGs at all).
>>729326530>what is Chrono TriggerA game that does not fulfil your arbitral rule about RPGs from the OP. The one about "choices that matter". According to you, E33 has one, which is not enough for it to be considered an RPG. CT also has one: to fight Magus or not. And it's not as important as E33's, because it doesn't affect anything but a couple of cutscenes. The only thing about the outcome of the adventure it changes is that Magus does or does not appear in the ending cutscenes.And you call it "GPT", still with 0 proof.
>>729327338They were stripped of an award for using and lying about using AI
>>729326761>less of an RPG than E33Persona is an act based roleplaying game, like Avowed. It is more of an RPG than Elden Ring, which is more of an RPG than Expedition 33 and Paper Mario (they are the same game, pretty much) and God of War 4.>>729327338Good try, GenAlpha.You can actually beat Chrono Trigger without even the protagonist of the game. Most of the content regarding the past of the characters and their fate is left up to the player's willingness to do them.But I'll take this as a victory, if people have come to the realization that two different things cannot be the same thing, which is a basic logical principle from ancient Greece.
>>729327467This a well poisoner. He wants the smoking gun and demands impossible evidence. He wants me to go back in time, invade the Sandfall officers and look at them generating assets from the ChatGPT prompt while their composer takes Suno output.
>>729327467Right after the release it was publicly known that the game had a couple of AI-made placeholder textures, which were removed instantly when the devs learned they were left in the game.
>>729321137Hey Daniel, don't you have a tweet to be sending?
>>729327647>claim something>have no proof>sperg out when people tell you to provide proof
Still not a single good reason has been given why using AI is actually bad if the game is good (which it is (most awarded game in history (seethe about it))).
>>729327707I'm sure that's all they used AI for
>>729327467They were just being controversial for marketing. E33's Ai use was known since literally 2 days after the game released. Anyone acting like it was a shocking reveal note is retarded.
>>729327561>You can actually beat Chrono Trigger without even the protagonist of the game.Nobody does that on their first playthrough. And it doesn't change the ending as completely as E33's choice.And doing quests or not (saving Lucca's mother, resolving Marle's family problems etc.) also doesn't affect the outcome.>>729327853>"I'm sure that's all he used it for">said the judge after putting a guy in jail for owning hunting rifle
>>729328016They confessed to using an undisclosed amount of AI and got denied in a major competition from the industry.>>729327778What is probatio diabólica?
>>729328016Having different endings does not suffice to make a game an RPG, only works to make it more of an RPG than 'The Last of Us'.if you solve Marle's family problems or help the characters, there is an objective. The way you conduct yourself during the starting festival of the game leads to a different possible outcomes already in the first hour of the game. I recommend that you play the game.Compared to Expedition 33, Chrono Trigger is at least one standard deviation more of an RPG than . It doesn't have the liberty of Fallout or Baldur's Gate and is an act-based game, but it still more of an RPG than a FromSoftware game and is definitely an outstanding game for its time. Even to this day, barely any games are made that are more RPG than Chrono Trigger. The game is already more of an RPG than E33 in the first hour of it.The greatest sin of the JRPG genre was building on top of the legacy of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest and Pokémon rather than Chrono Trigger.As a result, God of War is now more of an RPG than real japanese games derived from FF.
>>729328442>probatio diabólica?A logical fallacy that holds no water.
>>729320029nah, NG4 is the true GOTY. no one cares what the dorito pope says aside faggots.
>>729319348most dogshit thread on /v/ award
>>729328968The director himself admitted to using an undisclosed amount of AI and lost his studio the indie game awards. Then chuds on /v/ try to gaslight people into believing this never happened, and keep astroturfing their movie game that has as much player choice as hack & slash God of War clone Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.At least in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (is it an RPG too?) there is an entire DLC based on expanding one of the endings you choose to the game.
>>729328823>The way you conduct yourself during the starting festival of the game leads to a different possible outcomes already in the first hour of the game.In the OP, you mentioned "choice that matters". This doesn't matter. You end up in prison.>I recommend that you play the game.I finished every version more than once, thanks. And there's a good chance you played the fanfiction made by the translators instead of the real game, unlike me.I, on the other hand, recommend that you play E33, because it also has other choices (not on-screen "choose A or B" ones but choices through your actions, similar to CT's) and quests that affect some people's futures.But, even if E33 was "less of an RPG" than CT, there are other JRPGs, some that have literally no choices at all. Including a lot of FFs and DQs. Yet, they're still JRPGs and so they're also RPGs.
This game is for women and faggots
>>729319348>story is a convolutedYou're just retarded. Even normies can follow this straightforward story.>game's big lesson is that gaming and escapism are le badThe games big lesson is that you need to grow the fuck up and stop playing pretend, especially if its hurting your loved ones >gaming equivalent of Oscar baitKek already running out of "real" criticism.>filled with suffering and futility because the french think hemorrhoids are the greatest form of artistic expressionIt has plenty of lighthearted moments and even has a very surface level metaphor about the monolith being a stones throw that they can almost debunks your futility argument.>>729319348>runs like absolute shitWorks on my machine.>zero cultural impact thanks to the lack of nuance ect ect...Just because you spend all day seething about it doesn't mean that's the only discussion happening.>soundtrack was made on Suno Lie, but doesn't matter if it was true because it's still a great soundtrack and if AI is capable of that then more devs should be using it.>all characters are bobble-headed creepy thingsI don't even know what you're trying to say here.>obnoxious Paper Mario mechanics forced in to appeal to non-RPG fansIt appeals to rpg fans too because it's a fun mechanic. Just play on an easier difficulty next time.>It is not an RPGMaybe you meant it's not a JRPG? In which case you got one thing right, but it is very dirivitive of many jrpgs.
>>729329647>whataboutwhoismIt is okay, anon. I admit. Expedition 33 is an RPG, right, because all these other non-RPGs are RPGs too. Anything that calls itself an RPG is an RPG, like Super Mario RPG. And also an RPG is SNES Super Mario World, Paper Mario and Pokémon Sword & Shield. These are cream of the crop RPGs for sure, indistinguishable from Planescape Torment, Dragon Age Origins and Dysco Elisium. Hell, my Curse of Strahd table should just give up, and go play the latest Trials movie game or God of War. Is God of War an RPG too? It has a skill tree. They should have blocked all player choice from Baldur's Gate 3, made fixed refined cutscenes rather than an immense amount of cutscenes to reflect player choice, and made the whole game into a big hallway. As a matter of fact. It'd still be an RPG because look, it is turn-based combat;Here is a picture of Solitaire, the first western made RPG. Look at how turn-based it is because you can pick which card in your team you'll position first. There is also this one viking game, you won't believe it, called Chess. You can even choose which piece you'll move first and every piece has different move patterns for your strategic freedom! It is definitely an RPG.
Imagine sucking so much dick like >>729330223his mouth is literally full with french semen
>>729330297So you're really just mad that people aren't using your strict definition of RPG? This is why you've been spamming for weeks? Have you been tested for autism?
>>729319348
>729330390I accept your concession on all points. No more (you)s for the pajeet engagement farmer.
>>729330297>whataboutwhoismI compare E33 to JRPGs, because it works like JRPGs.
No final fantasy has ever had even one choice. So tiresome this forced hate
>>729330223>It has plenty of lighthearted moments and even has a very surface level metaphor about the monolith being a stones throw that they can almost debunks your futility argumentNice try, Guillaume.It is all ridiculous and futile because the world is just completely destroyed anyway since the writers (the real ones) were so up their own asses that they did not realize that they were convinced that nuking their own world for one whole act of the game was a good idea so they can make the players suffer because art, you see, art is suffering. Life is suffering. It is all a big nihilistic blob of nothing. Look at all these motivated characters who want life to go on like Aline or Renoir, they are all powerless and driven by useless love. Love shackles. You should not have any motivation to save the day and all the friends you made. Just like Final Fantasy 6, except you can't save all your friends through their sidequests in the final act because *they all le died because life is suffering and we need to pass a message*. You see, nu-Emet-Selch guy who just joined your team wants to nuke everything, including the writer's self-insert displaced asian girl in a 19th century french setting, because he is *le suffering* and life is so pointless and unfair because he sacrificed himself trying to save his sister and everything is so pointless and ungrateful. Here, let Guillaume take a picture in a dark room while he directs the game because he is le suffering too atop the small loan of 50 million dollars + grants + tax + free ChatGPT subscription he got for his small indie studio pls understand. But here is a gestral poo poo joke, so you don't kill yourself halfway through the playthrough and get to vote our promp-generated asset flip as game of the year.
B R O W NROWN
very kind of you to use spoiler tags even though you hate the game so much
I liked the game.
Translating the OP for the intended audience.टॉप 10 कारण कि यह गेम इतना बेकार क्यों है>10. कहानी उलझी हुई है, सेल्फ-इंसर्ट रीडर x एमेट-सेल्च FF14 फैनफिक्शन है जो फाइनल फैंटेसी टैक्टिक्स और इंडी गेम्स की नकल करता है>9. गेम का बड़ा सबक यह है कि गेमिंग और एस्केपिज़्म कम बुरे हैं, सुसाइडल और जेनोसाइडल होना कम अच्छा है। प्लीज़ ज़्यादा मत सोचो वरना पूरी कहानी बिखर जाएगी>8. गेमिंग ऑस्कर बेट के बराबर है>7. दुख और बेकारपन से भरा है क्योंकि फ्रेंच लोग सोचते हैं कि बवासीर आर्टिस्टिक एक्सप्रेशन का सबसे बड़ा रूप है>6. बिल्कुल बकवास जैसा चलता है क्योंकि पूरा गेम सीधे अनरियल एनजीत5 चलाने वाले प्रॉम्प्ट से आया है>5. बारीकियों की कमी के कारण कोई कल्चरल इम्पैक्ट नहीं है। कोई फैनफिक्शन, फैनआर्ट या डिस्कशन नहीं है। इस गेम के बारे में हर डिस्कशन सिर्फ इस बारे में है कि यह उतना अच्छा नहीं है जितना इसे बताया जाता है, इसे किसी ऐसे व्यक्ति ने लिखा है जिसने इसके बारे में दो मिनट से ज़्यादा सोचा हो>4. साउंडट्रैक Suno पर बनाया गया था और कुछ बकवास बातों से यह भी पता चला कि उन्होंने म्यूज़िक बनाने के लिए एक साउंडक्लाउड रैपर को हायर किया, जबकि कंपोज़र (जो फ्रेंच जुनिची मसुदा भी हो सकता है) मुश्किल से कैमरे की तरफ देख पा रहा है क्योंकि वह एक स्कैम चला रहा है।>3. सभी कैरेक्टर गोल-मटोल सिर वाले डरावने लोग हैं जो>2. नॉन-RPG फैंस को लुभाने के लिए ज़बरदस्ती पेपर मारियो मैकेनिक्स डाले गए हैं।>1. यह कोई RPG नहीं है, इसमें एक (1) प्लेयर की पसंद मायने रखती है और यह इस मूवी गेम में सिर्फ़ एक कटसीन बदलता है।एक और प्रॉब्लम यह बकवास 'थैंक यू' DLC है, जिसमें डेवलपर्स प्लेयर्स से अपने ChatGPT गेम के लिए अवॉर्ड्स मांगने के लिए खुद को बेच रहे हैं। यह डेवलपर्स का फैंस के साथ अच्छा बर्ताव नहीं है, यह सबसे निचले तबके को लुभाने के लिए सस्ती फैन पैंडरिंग है।
>>729320737>game goes out of its way to convince you that killing everyone and destroying the world is le good endingI think the thing that really pisses me off about this is the fact Xenoblade 3 did the same fucking thing, and I'm not bitter that XB3 gets derided and this game gets accolades abound - in fact I'm glad XB3 gets derided - but the lack of consistency is the issue. I get that E33's whole shtick is anti-unhealthy escapism and all, and if I had to play devil's advocate, it's a fine enough moral for a story about some depressed chick, but an RPG in which you actively destroy the world you came to explore and reset the timeline of your own volition feels like a complete waste of time that punishes you for getting invested in the characters, world, mechanics, lore, etc. I got limited time on this rock to play a game to completion and get invested in the story it's telling, why the fuck would I play a game in which everything I just did for a few days, maybe weeks is invalidated?
>>729330401>your strict definition of RPGAny definition that calls a dog a duck is wrong.You can claim the death of reason all you want, but Expedition 33 will never be more of an RPG than Fallout New Vegas or even Fallout IV, and any claim otherwise is deliberate mischaracterization or an obnoxious blatant textbook case of gaslighting victim.
>>729331362>>729331786Will the paid shills that promote this "game" ever come up with a better counter argument other than "you are brown?"
>>729332000You can claim Fallout is more of an RPG, but to claim E33 isn't an RPG is why you're getting called a retard.
>>729332120nigger
>>729331863>why the fuck would I play a game in which everything I just did for a few days, maybe weeks is invalidated?You are supposed to *suffer*, anon. No saving the world under the french watch, the world must be doomed. You want some Avengers slop? There is no virtuous sacrifice and action and adventure here, only *suffering*, *ambiguity*, and a piano. I am starting to think you don't really appreciate the higher arts like purposefully misdirected nouvelle vague movies and depressed marxist comedies.
>>729322721>You think every turn-based combat game is an RPG.Is that what I said? I never said that.Poker is a turn-based game. But it sure as hell isn't an RPG.>the benchmark of this arbitrary scale is at +2>0 doesn't existYou are retarded
>>729320192message? what message? this shit games while theme can be boiled down to “muh traumas and depression”. the characters are god like beings with immense power of creation yet they choose to be self centered narcissistic egotistical whiny faggots. no wonder trannies like excrement33 so much.
>>729332290Sure. War is peace. Expedition 33 is now more of an RPG than Dragon Age, cats are to lizards like they are to tigers, and you are a biological woman too.Any other untruth you want me to acknowledge?
>>729332603I never said it was more of an RPG than Dragon Age. If you have to make a strawman to seethe at you have already lost.E33 is an RPG.
>>729332373The only person who suffers in Verso ending is Lune since she can't accept death. Everyone else already got killed off by Renoir
>>729332558>can literally create any world of their choosing >this is what they conjure upLMAO what a shit game
>>729332727Really? I propose a new captcha system for /v/. Spot the one RPG game that is actually not an RPG:(1/3)>Disco Elysium>Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion>Chrono Trigger>Clair Obscur Expedition 33(2/3)>Expedition 33>Fallout New Vegas>Dragon Age Origins>Baldur's Gate 3(3/3)>Expedition 33>Pillars of Eternity>Planescape Torment>Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous
The world you're trying to save isn't real. E33 is a meta commentary on how gamers get too attached to npcs and you need to grow the fuck up and spend time with your family. It's why Maells ending is considered the bad ending
>>729328823>The greatest sin of the JRPG genre was building on top of the legacy of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest and Pokémon rather than Chrono Trigger.Yeah it's almost like there was a full decade of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games before Chrono Trigger releasedIt sure is a mystery why one single game didn't completely reform the standard set by its industry-defining predecessors.
>>729333207Oh no, this (supposedly) RPG game is telling us that we shouldn't be invested in the role that we are (supposedly) playing as the 67th Expedition intended to *save* Lumière in a desperate struggle against godlike beings, such as the most selfish piece of shit that should have been shot on sight as being more dangerous than every single enemy of the game combined. We were actually playing.. Uhn... The role of the player all along! Have sex, incel!
>>729333207They are both bad endings.Neither one is prescribed as "good" or "bad" by the developers, and they are both tragic outcomes.You are supposed to become attached to the world and characters of the Canvas, and in-universe they are recognized for their sentience and agency. They are functionally indistinguishable from reality.Hence, the Verso ending is a tragedy because while the Dessendre family gets to move on from Verso's death, it comes at the cost of an entire world of people.Maelle's ending can be seen as good, because the Canvas is saved and its people allowed to live freely and without fear, though it costs Maelle her life (eventually) and Verso is still depressed (but no longer immortal).
>>729333207>"You aren't allowed to have hobbies and get engrossed and engaged in a world, put the kiddie toys away."I'm glad you're telling me this for free so I don't need to drop a fiddy on the Game of the Year 2025 for them to tell me the same damn thing.
>>729319348>10. story is a convolutedLike every jrpg ever >9. game's big lesson is that gaming and escapism are le badfiltered>8. gaming equivalent of Oscar baitDirector admitted in interview back in May they were not even thinking about the game having any success past a decent metacritic score, let alone awards.>7. filled with suffering and futilityUnlike baby games like Xenoblade or Persona where everyone is doing silly japanese humor garbage>6. runs like absolute shitHow fucking poor you need to be to have less than a 1060 and 8700k in 2025>5. zero cultural impact thanks to the lack of nuance. There is zero fanfiction, fanart or discussion.Fastest growing gaming subreddit of the year. Has more cosplay than any other franchise this year. Second only to silksong in fanarts. Most active threads on /v/ post release and it was only discussion.>4. soundtrack was made on Suno and propped up by some bullshit that they hired a Soundcloud rapper to make the music when the composerWtf is this retard even writing lmao, is the what the jeet at ubisoft have been briefed to say?>3. all characters are bobble-headed creepy things who areNigger so lost he can't even finish his sentence>2. obnoxious Paper Mario mechanics forced in Glad this game shares the mechanic with 2 of the greatest JRPGs ever made.>1. It is not an RPG, it has one (1) player choice that matters and that only alters one cutscene in this movie gameDamn, I guess Mass effect trilogy or bravely default aren't rpg either, not a single choice you made affect the endings.Keep seething /v/, your mindbreak is hilarious.
>>729333629>it comes at the cost of an entire world of people.No, there's not "entire world of people", only two people left alive in the world and game forces you to confront their deaths
Sell me this game.
>>729334103sex with Lune
>>729333206>i propose we force everyone to buy a passNice try.>>729333625>not an rpg because sad ending made me remember im an incelThis is why everyone is still calling you a retard.>>729333629Maelle ending is bad, Verso ending is sad, but the right answer.>>729333684Good. We need less brown people in the RPG community.
>>729319348>"zero cultural impact thanks to the lack of nuance. There is zero fanfiction, fanart or discussion. Every discussion about this game is exclusively about how it is not as good as it is made out to be, written by anyone who thought about it for more than two minute"So you're saying it's the avatar of gaming?
>>729333876>Damn, I guess Mass effect trilogy or bravely default aren't rpg eitherWash your mouth before you compare Mass Effect to this asset flip. Mass Effect is one of the greatest RPG series in history. It is everything an RPG must be: great story, character choice, and mediocre fight.Most choices in the game are effective up to the damn third game, they even lost the technology on how to do that. This was Bioware's finest hour, and they truly only botched the very final ending and decided to recycle the Geth storyline.
>>729321137I feel you.
>>729334591>Most choices in the game are effective up to the damn third gameAnd no matter what you did, curing the genophage, exiling Tali, siding with either the geths or quarians absolutely NONE of it mattered in the end when choosing between control, synthesis or destroy... sorry blue, green and red.Video games are the illusion of choices, everything you think is a choice has been decided by the devs, you are not free of doing anything outside your control. Also you do 0 story choices in ME2 so ME2 isn't a RPG, got it.
