I think Monster Hunter might be dying. I've noticed a sharp dropoff in fan content, which means that people just don't care anymore.
>>729342028Toridcless will save it
>Design game to be unengaging on purpose>People get bored of itGenuinely what the fuck did Capcom expect to happen here?
why did they think releasing an action game that runs like putrid dogshit was acceptable
>>729342528Every MH game is built around 30 fps at most.
>>729342028Monster Hunter died without udon-ya doujins.
>>729342028It's because Wilds sucks. It's to easy, there was no content for the first 5 months of the game's release, it is limiting its own player potential by running like absolute dogshit, and there is literally nothing about it that makes you think it was made for Monster Hunter fans. The series is dead. Even after this disastrous game Tokuda said they're still going to prioritize casuals and getting casual players to play their games, which is half the reason this game fucking sucks.
>>729342753I'm really glad to read this holy shitTo think I discovered her doujin when I was like 11 or 12 back then15 years later I still haven't found a better artist
>might beMH has been dead since World killed it
>>729343089Fan content was thriving throughout World and Rise. Wild's lack of conent is entirely new for the franchise. It might actually be over this time.
>>729343326>>729343397I can't believe this shit will make a gorillion dollars and will be the reason they won't make any mainlines anymore
>>729343326>>729343397>>729343559>following up the worst entry in the series with a chinese gachabury this fucking franchise
>>729342028You need appealing characters if you want more fanart, wait for the next game from the Rise team for that.
>>729342028Okay retard.
>>729342753Correct
>>729343615Actually pretty smart of Capcom to divide MH into two creative teams, so that if one shits the bed the other's there to clean it up. The whole franchise is riding on their backs currently, no pressure.
>>729342753this dude is so overrated. his artstyle is generic and unappealing.
>>729342028Just wait for the switch 2 entry for the nintendo shill brigade to start marketing "a return to form" and "the best monster hunter to date" or whatever the fuck AIslop nindian garbage they come up with after celebrating their "successful attack against playstation's monster hunter".
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>>729342028I actually like Wilds honestly, but no, it isn't dead. We're just in the normalfag phase at the moment and they're all fickle retards who have low player retention unless the game is popular with ecelebs, once we are past Wild's G Rank expansion + TUs we'll get back to the right path again for another game + expansion.
>>729343951Yay can't wait for more utter dogshit fights like AT Uth Duna that just kill you if you're near it for 99% of the hunt and positioning doesn't exist.
>>729342028Just wilds, which is 100% deserved. The series will keep going just fine. The fact that capcom even acknowledges that wilds has some issues is already a big step in correcting course for future games.
the age of hunters is overriders will rule monhun very soon
>>729342409I don't want monsters that I like to be included in this shit heap of a game
>>729344012>game is too easy>game is too hardmake up your mind
>>729344012But I thought Wilds was easy, anon?
>>729344054Nobody will buy it.
>>729344070I know what you are.
>>729342028all i wanted is Monster Hunter Ultimate with every maps, every monsters, every subs/ rare/ variant/ event/ etc, every weapons, every ranks SWIMMING, palicoes, cha-cha and kayamba, prowler and all the villages/ towns before the HD bullshit. and now it's never happening.
>>729344176
>make game easy with dopamine abuse gameplay and zero friction to attract a casual audience>tons of story and character and cinematics to trend chase>three updates in a row of difficulty spikes to satisfy old fans>now the game is retardedly lopsided, bleeding the casuals with the difficulty spiked endgame monsters and failing to bring back the oldfagsI think they missed the antidote by making the monsters much more difficult in terms of numbers. I'm not sure whats missing, but it's clear to me that difficulty is not causing me to be more interested in wilds. It was retardedly easy and that is an issue, but number buffs didn't fill the clear gaping hole in Wilds.
>>729344137>>729344157The game is whatever I need it to be in order to complain about it.
>>729344186dammit i forgot the most important part: ZERO STORY (flavor text for "kill this because video game" is ok)
>>729344227A non-retarded difficulty curve is what's missing.
>>729344137>>729344157>>729344230Don't act retarded. I know they can make hard monsters without restoring to dogshit design. They did it for +300 monsters over the course of two decades.
>>729344227> gaping hole in Wilds.tell me more about gaping holes in MHW
I'm enjoying it.
>>729344157This will always be true.
>>729344227>friction buzzword
>>729344330
>>729344293MH has never had a difficulty curve, LR and HR are braindead and the only difficult hunts are the tail end of G rank.
>>729344328The monsters in Wilds from previous games fight and act exactly like they did back in their original games, what's so horribly cacapoopoo about them in Wilds?
>>729344398
>>729344407Thanks for the retarded opinion, nigger.You might want to play those games before commenting on them.
>>729344328The irreversible problems now are>Hunter mobility/turning/cancels (includes focus mode) >Counters eg foreskin slash and offsets>Infinite access to items, infinite healing and utility, ludicrous skills besidesNumbers can be changed, monsters can be sped up and given huge AoE follow ups, it wouldn't change these things and nothing now can
>>729344328Well, if you make a stupid reply you will get stupid responses. Why would I earnestly reply to someone who is either shitposting or being overly hyperbolic? You're not genuinely trying to have a conversation here.
>>729344430Well Gravios dies in 70 seconds without me even trying, while 8* Gore Magala takes fucking 30 minutes to kill. The balancing is completely fucked, it like playing a modded version of Frontier.
>>729342028Portable games were better
>>729342753Based
>>729344070They specifically made a bird mount with wings and showed off its flying capabilities in the trailers. I don't think I've ever seen it fly in-game, nor would I ever want it to.
>>729344545Gore is so ruined. He used to be a meek mid tier monster that was clumsy and blind and used his big ass AOE attacks to compensate. Now hes almost always an endgame monster with insane tracking and his AOE attacks are one shots. What are they doing making 9 star gore magala when shaggy exists?
>>729344672It never flies or flew, it glides, and it's useless.
>>729343397>have to play a gacha to get a decent pair of boots
>>729344672Do you have timestamp?
>>729344716you actually roll for characters that have complete armor sets and weapons
>>729344672It just glides, you can use it to slow descend. Useful only for the pit with Jin and Omega.
>>729344772Yeah I know, I'm just complaining over how all the boots in mainline suck.
>>729344708Gore has always been the same tier as Rathalos and that's what he is now, anon.
The biggest problem with Wilds is that while playing it I'm just wishing I was playing any other MH.
>>729342967>her
>>729342028It's not the same game that millennials grew up with. Capcom will have to provide a pre-World experience to bring that core playerbase back.
>>729344012>kill you if you’re near it>positioning doesn’t existWell which is it?
>>729342753im actually saddened at the downfall of MH doujins.
>>729344375Seregios has a lot less downtime between moves in Wilds he’s very designed around hitting the weak points on his legs with focus strikes after certain combo strings
>>729345969Also very weak to offset attacks because they interrupt his combos and ground him the first few times.>>729345884*counters u*
>>729345884Both, these people are not capable of criticizing a game while acknowledging anything good about it. It's never something even as innocuous as "This game has a lot of issues. Far too many to ever be considered even a decent monhun title, but I can see why some people like specific aspects enough to enjoy it." Every single aspect of the game has to be called irredeemable and unfixable.
>>729344018They acknowledged all of Milds faults were the reason the game was a 10 mill sales success for the first week. They haven't learned shit lmao.
>>729342028I've noticed a lot more, might just be your algorithmThis is probably the first game you can make an actually hot hunter so a lot of artists ik are drawing their OCs
>>729345884If you can't be near it then you can't hit it. The idea of MH is that you can position yourself around the attack AND hit it.
>>729342028Even without the performance issues Wilds just is not a fun video game.
>>729346516It strips a lot of the mobility from World and Rise, but movement feels very clunky as a result.
new update brought in a lot of simps for Ace Gunner.didn't save much of it bc I really don't care about MH NPCs>>729346398Are you seriously bitching about ATuna being too hard and dangerous to hit? Are you fucking kidding me?You'd never survive G-Rank Garuga turning 0.2° before insta-charging you for 80% of your health.
>>729346680Sure I can. He attacks when he reaches your position. So just move back, and roll to the side if he trips, otherwise sneak in a hit during his attack. Because that was a properly designed monster, and not a poorly designed monster, like AT Uth Duna.
>>729346669>strips a lot of the mobility from Worldthese are the people you're "discussing" the game with, gibbons who've never held a controller in their handLook at this fucking quote>>729346887bot-ass responsekys
>>729346992>>729346680What's your problem dude? Don't post unless you have anything to contribute.
>>729346516I disagree, I think it is very fun. However if you wanted to argue that it's the worst monhun or that it ignores the fundamental design philosophy, something to that extent, I might not disagree depending on how you go about it.
>>729347336I have a hard time wanting to play more of it, which has never been an issue with previous games. It's almost a chore at this point.
>>729344375Capcom probably sees the data/hunt times of the vast majority of these shitters and calibrated the difficulty to accomodate, and why the challenge quest thresholds are so generous. Playing online is fun for some extra chaos but shit for farming anything, practically a handicap and just 1.5x-2x hunt times.
>>729347393Sorry to hear that, I guess. Hopefully the next game doesn't have that issue for you, but personally I like a lot of the movesets that weren't ruined like IG and hunting monsters. I don't like it anywhere near as much as the other MH games either, but there's still nothing else like it in the market.
>>729342028my best friend has put thousands of hours into every entry since the original, and I started playing with him since world. we put about 2000 hours into world, 200 into rise and only about 100 into wilds. world was great, rise was a shitty mobile game that had poor multiplayer functionality. wilds not only runs poorly, it’s also too easy and there is nothing to do. the omega fight was cool the first few times. he logs in and does just enough to keep up with cosmetic unlocks. he said if the next game is as bad he’s done with the franchise forever. big rip because this is his favorite franchise; mine was paper mario and that shit is dead as fuck so I feel for him.
Just stop pandering to rotation minmax meta shitter, those faggot will always optimize the fun out of the game. Make the game more hunting sim experience but with big ass monster, you know, using tool and trap
>>729342893there’s still no content. rolling artian weapons to fix your last roll or wasting an inordinate amount of time to get a few high tier amulets that can’t even roll certain skills sucks ass
>>729347669But Origami King and Sunbreak are the best games of their respective franchises.
>>729342753I was waiting on a cute kecha girl for so long, but he died or something after 3rd gen.
>>729347861No can do anon. We have to remove all possible disadvantages to the hunter on the maps and make the monster visible at all times or else they might be left immersed in a hostile world, thriving in adversity, rather than deepsing a punching bag.
>>729342028>the chinese mobile spinoff might be actually more fun than Wilds>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faMEhKiWu4Grim
>>729347918id honestly rather play any of the sticker games than tok. at least those games aren’t patronizing me about how im stupid for liking the originals. it’s a fine game but not a good paper mario game
>>729342028It's because they're pandering to non mh fans, normies will buy a game in droves but ultimately will not have the free time to actually give a game good retentionLaunches are also important and wilds probably had the worst one, it has solid aspirational content now but for like 3-4 months it was arkveld grinding
>>729348208I really only liked TTYD, and mostly for the writing and memorable cast. TOK has that in spades, and an extremely good OST to boot. Aside from Rise, I was never happier playing a Switch game than when I was playing TOK.
>>729347996He made a World one with Odo.
>anti-japan schizo makes a thread>shills chink mobile gacha gameEvery time, but I guess it makes sense why he hates MH.
>>729348214They did the classic anit consumer western corpo approach to an entertainment product. "The dedicated nerds will always buy it".
>>729348614They're not wrong. That's why the launch sales were so high. But if the game sucks they'll lose engagement.
>>729348757That has never been a wrong statement. The problem is it chases long term profit, while sacrificing trust in the product, and long term reward. Wilds sold 10 million on release, it won't outsell world+IB's long legs though. And the next title will certainly have its release tainted by the reputation of Wild, both from fans and casuals. Trust isn't easy to regain in business.
>>729348497Wilds is the least Japanese game in the series
>>729348847Explain Pokemon then, every new title sells way more than the last.
>>729348847I was watching a Chinese chef talking with his uncle and they were saying young people now don’t haggle like the older generation but if you cheat them once you’ll lose their business forever. I’m an older millennial but I find that to be true for me also.
>>729347861>equip set that make my toon cool>unlock the super secret skill Fun >get yelled at by metafags who cart when i don't because i'm having fun Monster Huntin'H'yup, I just want to wrestle with cool monsters.
>>729348847I don't think they intended for Wilds to be shit. 30fps has been standard in MH, and people did, somehow, supposedly, enjoy the plot of World and characters of Rise, and those storymakers hired by Capcom need some work to do.Personally, even if thae story had been good I wouldn't have cared. That's not what I play MH for.
>>729348898MH fans have slightly more standards I guess.
>>729348898Pokémon was never good. If I were to list the hundred best games of all time, six would be Monster Hunter and none would be Pokémon.
>>729348898Nostalgia bordering on religious fanaticism. Pokemon is to millennials what sports teams are to boomers.
>>729342028Wilds is more popular than rise or base world ever were
>>729348962It's probably more likely that the fluctuating player numbers are just normalfags who came into the series with World.
>>729348961The on rails, CoD campaign like of the structure is the problem. I knew I would hate the game the moment I was forced to "look at shit in the distance" on top of the bird, but I could dismount, or go closer to inspect the point of interest, because the game wanted me to stay in a specific area/route. Also, they forced the pajeet too hard, I have no fucking interest in anything related to him. Everything about the story soured me on the game, and the mechanics and flow are too boss rushy.
People seem to like TU4 so far, it has retained more players than previous updates and reviews are starting to get more positives than negatives, maybe the January update will finally unfuck the performance for good.I do wish more people played Rise/Sunbreak though, it's a good game.
>>729349140That was the thing since 4, dunno why you claim this is a problem now>>729348898Pokemon panders to the pokemon fans, without listening twitter retards who don't even play the game. That works, and the only game where they decided to pander "the new audience" was bw, and it was hatedMonster Hunter on the other hand has two branchesCinematic one(dos, tri, 4, World, Wilds) - which usually less popular(outside of Word) but padners to casuals who hate gameplay and just want to "immersive cinematic experience"And another branch that focuses on gameplay first.The thing is, that peopel usually love and defend their first monster hunter as the peak, so we see many retards who started with 4 and world refusing to admit that Wilds pandered exactly to them.
>>729349392I skipped gen 4, and I've been complaining about it in world since release. The handler and unskippable cinematics were the worst part about World, and mods fixed them.
>>729349454Go play MH4U and MHGU.
>>729349205I'm almost at HR 100 now and then I, as the sole authority on Monster Hunter and related materials, will be able to determine if the game is fixed or not.
>>729347108IKWYA>>729347861>hunting sim experienceOh, so you want something counter to what MH has always been?
>>7293493924 doesn't have any on rail mission besides the tutorialGU barely has any story at all
>>729349392>Dos>padners to casuals
>>729349491How do I get from HR 50 to HR 100? Seems like it'll take forever and I already have the gear I want.
>>7293493924 doesn't have on rails walking segments, sniffing poop, long cutscenes, etc. It just has actual effort put into the cutscenes.
>>729349575>Bury macca pot with mushroom>Do nothing>Free moneyEasiest game in the history of games
Wouldn't catfuckers be all over this game since the cats can talk human now?
>>729349519>now he pretending that escort in everwood with slow walking segments doesn't existLol>GU barely has any story at allDunno why you brought up game from gameplay branch, but whatever
>>729342028no its just mainline team shitting the bedagain
>>729349580Do the highest tier double monster investigations, preferably with two tempered monsters. A slightly slower and less rewarding alternative is spamming the HR boost event quests that are set in the Wounded Hollow Arena map, like the Xu Wu one.Or, you can fashion hunt like I did but that takes longer.
>>729349646>Just ask me if you want to bring your Palico along!>I could help you out more if I had better gear!Cat's going on the grill in this one
>>729349580You hunt monsters
>>729349646who leaves their cat woth human voices? the catsounds are way cuter and less gratinggod the sponge-bobish (idk) voicd acting on the cats is like nail on chalkboard
>>729349785They got Pikachu's VA for the Japanese version. That can't have been cheap, she's too good to voice Tony Tony Chopper half the time.
>>729349758yk the Gog weapons being stuck to his body and not actually made from his mats makes senseAs cool as they were in 4U it always pissed me off how they never looked like they were made from Gog
>>729349684>escort in everwoodliterally doesn't remember that, but it can't be longer than a few minutes, which isn't remotely comparable to 5&6 gen's boner for walk and talk segments
I hate Wilds so much it's UNREAL. I've loved every Monster Hunter up to this point. It's my favorite game series. But I hate Wilds. The game is just unfun and runs like dogshit even on a 4090.
>>729343839But 9 was so fuggin hawt.
>>729349205that's because most rise/sb are on switch
>>729350217>runs like dogshit even on a 4090How? I have a 4070Super and it runs 1080p/60 at max. I also used to use the HD texture pack just fine (but I uninstalled it for space) so now I just render at 1.2xIf it's fucking your 4090 then there must be something wrong with your setup
>>729350217i'm disapointed that gobul armor is still stuck in 3g
>It le runs bad on PC END OF DISCUSSION NO OTHER PLATFORMS OTHER THAN PC EXISTShould never have given it to them.
>>729342028ive been playing rise because I heard Wilds on PC runs like ass
>>729347669>world was great, rise was a shitty mobile game that had poor multiplayer functionality.This might be one of the most retarded things I've ever read.The game that stopped you from multi because you didn't watch the cutscene, was better than the one with actual multi functionality.You and your friend are retarded.
>>72935056270 Malzenos
>>729350582Yeah, let's just pretend that's the only difference and that Rise doesn't force you to use the Better Matchmaking mod to fix the awful queue system. Good luck you're not playing on PC.
>>729347669>We played every game in the series majority of which were mobile slop and loved those games>Rise was a shitty mobile game so fuck thatYou dont have a friend and you started with World; got it
>>729350412His standards are probably higher than 1080p 60fps or 1440p 60fps. Ive been gaming at 3440x1440p 120fps and Milds runs like shit for how fucking ugly it looks.
>>729349492Man I hope the spicy penis comes back for master rank, that was a fun hunt,
>>729350562It runs like ass on most pcs, but if you have close to this you won't have any notable issues even on the highest settings + running some minor reshade effects.
>>729351018Can't recommend Rehydrated and turning off lens distortion enough. As important as shutting down the bloom in Tri.
>>729351190I do but high end components cannot run the game native at 120fps locked. Every other game I have played for 6 years both old and new I was able to get that framerate.
>>729351291Grounded 2 also can't break 74FPS with a 9070XT. Which is a shame, great game otherwise.
>MH1 has a really niche community and there would be maybe like 4 or 5 full Towns online at any one time >had 1 friend that I played online with and the rest were randoms>MHF2 was on PSP and I only had 1 other friend with a PSP to play with >borrowed a Wii from a friend to play through Tri, online was a ghost town when I played it>Wilds always has a full 50 SOS flare quests for whatever current grindable quest is up that patch>5 digit player count every single day since release>every fucking /v/ thread>IS MONSTER HUNTER DYING? >IS THIS THE END OF MONSTER HUNTER? >HOW WILL THEY REVIVE MONSTER HUNTER? I'm glad that Wilds is a mediocre entry in the series. I hope all of you dumb fucking hypebeast tourists fuck off to whatever the next AAA IP series is plugged in the mainstream and never come back. The non-stop histrionic bitching is so fucking obnoxious.
>introduce packs>like 3 monsters form them, only one has an alpha>introduce power clash>barely any monsters make use of it>introduce pop-up camps>no one likes it, just arbitrarily disables your fast travel points for no reason, end up nerfing it>introduce seasons to each region>3/4 of them just make the game look like shit, aside from Plenty you can't even tell the difference half the time>introduce weapon swapping>no base game monsters make use of it, completely compromised by weapon talismans and gog rolls>fucked with the canteen for no reason, have to travel to random mudhuts or farm good boy tickets for food>have to grind for armor spheres of all things>entire story focused around Nata, then shoved him in the menu cuckshed>force the game to run every simulation on every map at all times tanking performance>maps are all connected by hallways so nothing interesting comes of this enormous performance tax>menus are a navigational nightmareliterally what the fuck is wrong with Tokuda
anyone else mainly played MH during their childhood then start realizing PvE fags are the biggest yapping bitches when they got older?
>>729350412Because I'm playing at 4k.. 4090 is a 4k card. Runs every other game just fine at 4k. But for Wilds if you want 4k you are required to use framegen.But sure if I wanna play at 1080p 60fps it runs fine.
>>729342028>A single player game with no replay ability might be dyingYou don't say. I heard the sky is also blue.
>>729352352You're not even trying.
>>729344227>make game easymotherfucker the games were always easy. You only thought they were hard because you played it back when you were a dumb teenager. I had trouble sixteen fucking years ago but the games are still the same shit. You have big slow weapons and you whack monsters. Just now you move faster and flex less. They were literally designed for kids to play and beat (Which we did)
I haven't played since before TU1 even came out, have they fixed the Bowguns yet?
>>729352490I went back to tri some months ago. It is still more difficult to go throught it than anything in gen 6.
>>729352490Which youtuber did you bum this retarded take from?
I think they're all roughly the same difficulty desu
>>729347669I legitimately DESPISE worldgens. Good for you that you got into the series, but you morons always act like you know anything at all about the games. World is only half a step behind Wild with how unfaithful it is. Being filtered by Rise, and not even reaching Sunbreak is a massive red alert. No, they're not on the level of classic MonHun, but preferring World to Rise is fucking embarrassing. Leave this fucking thread and leave MY fucking interest you retarded trog secondary, stop fucking throwing in my Wilds hunts and learn to turn on your brain and read English (or whatever moron language you were unfortunately born to read)
Is MHGU hard? I only played Rise.Also dabbled a bit in 3U but got filtered by one of the rare bugs (it just won't come out), though I decided in my next MH I'd power through the jank.
>>729353092Progression feels about right - HR and GR Advanced and Event Hypers are a good challenge along with some Hyper Huntathons and EX Deviants.
>>729353092It has quests that range all the way from falling asleep at the wheel to ball busting when you're not a masochist, but most of the game is just average difficulty. With average being a regular gamer who is invested enough to try, not a normalfag or a metafag/speedrunner.
>>729352732you are allowed to say this, but the AVERAGE hunt pre-World (assuming you're not over-geared) would take typically 20-30 mins. If a fight post-World lasts more than 10 minutes, I start to question if my teammates are even hitting the monster. Maybe they hit for the same HP, but taking 1/3 of the time to fight, inherently makes World and games after it much easier. Go play Wilds, then hop onto FU lol
>>729353092No harder or easier than 3U really. You'd only notice a difference in difficulty if you went pre-Tri, which was mostly due to things like hitboxes being shit and movement being even less accurate. Play Frontier nigga
>>7293530925-10 minutes hunts from the start if you aren't retarded.Has some nasty difficulty spikes though after you got used to the game, for hub it's unironically lr blangonga. For lr village it's owl and garuga.Outside of it, it's only usual endgame shit that would be difficult, deviant quests that forbid bringing items, hyper jho, etc
>Wilds still retains the time-limit feature on hunts>lol>lmao>rofl evenis it even possible to run out of time
>>729353437maybe if you choose to not hit the monster even once the entire time?
>>729353198Average before World was like 15-30, 30+ to timing out if you're not good at a particular monster. World+ is like 10-20, 30+ against bad matchups. And TA autism is irrelevant too, so don't bring that up.Not that time spent doing something translates to difficulty, really.
>>729353563>>729353563>Not that time spent doing something translates to difficulty, really.I would usually agree, but if we assume that high-rank monsters hit for the same HP on average, then yes, World and the games after it are infinitely easier due to there being a fraction of the amount of time for the player to make mistakes. The best defense is a great offense or whatever
>>729353198>but the AVERAGE hunt pre-World (assuming you're not over-geared) would take typically 20-30 mins.Wow, you were really shit at games, huhLiterally the only way to get timing like this, is if you run from camp back to mosnter area constantly, or do stupid shit like try to challenge event quests g rank monsters right after getting into g rank
>>729353563>Average hunt in World was 30 minutes>TA comparisons between games dont count because it takes me 30 minutes to clear LR Great GirrosFucking lmao
>>729353092the other anons are downplayingValstrax is the hardest Village final boss ever... on-par with Tri Alatreon (though imo Val is harder)Hub is hardcore. The progression has -actual- walls/filters throughout that I've seen beat friends of mine.Deviants are optional and for end-game, their an absolute fucking grind for no reason (I HATE TICKETS)I fucking love GU though. Soloing G5 Bloodbath was the greatest vidya experience of my life.
>>729353437probably in savage omega only if you are shitterlike me
>>729353521Or in fringe cases like Savage Omega being a bit too jumpy
>>729353437It hasn't been possible to run out of time unless you are bad, or it is a deliberately short battle.
>>729353092Rise is probably one of the hardest in the series. It takes real skill
>>729353702>hop online>enter gathering hub>join quest at random>20ish minutes elapse on average before quest clear, sometimes 30+hop on the fucking game and show me how fast you clear through a g-rank quest of MY choice without being overgeard moron. the only people who debate this shit havent played pre-world, so i dont even know why youre saying this, but as long as you walk away from the keyboard feeling good about lying i guess
>>729353828sorry, i meant to say clear through a quest ONLINE with 3 other randoms, not people you know beforehand. now do you see why it would take 20-30 minutes?
>>729353646Sorry, I can see how that wording is terrible in hindsight. I was not trying to say it has no relationship at all, just that there's way more factors that I'd personally say have a bigger impact. Especially when the time difference isn't gargantuan.Like G Rank Gore in 4U might take longer statistically and therefore give more opportunities to take damage, but I would also say the Gore fight in Sunbreak is a lot more mechanically harder to deal with than the goofy blind oaf in 4U even though you'd kill this version a lot faster. Roughly speaking I find the games all average out around the same level of difficulty, but obviously that also means it is a different form of difficulty and balance that people might not like in the newer games or vice versa.>>729353750Do you know what an average is, anon? Can you explain per capita to the thread?
>>729353828Only people who say that pre world hunts took a lot of time started either with 4th gen and never got good before moving to world, or started with world in the first place and want online creed>bbbbut assmongol said that old is good and new is bad, my first game is perfect and hardcoreNo, you will never be a woman, no matter how much you act as one
>>729353884Gore between 4U and Sunbreak is such a good example that I resign my stance, good work anon>>729353949who the fuck brought up asmongold or trans you fucking schizo, leave this thread immediately you secondary
>>729353884This nikka is retarded and slow at killing monsters lmao
>>729353092MHGU is quite hard, yes. Uniquely, your first monster can feasibly kill you, and the next rank has Cephadrome, so if you're still working out how the camera is used or how to attack you're going to die a lot. I've seen a few streamers walled by MHGU.
>>729354004thanks for showing that you didnt fight Gore in *both* 4U AND Sunbreak. Gore is a blind AND slow retard in 4U, piss easy to fight, whereas in Sunbreak (and Wilds by some extension) has fucking unmedicated ADHD (still not hard but very different). the difference between how much HP they both hit for ends up relatively making things equal
as is the case with most MonHun threads these days, nearly the entire thread is insecure Worldgens trying to justify not playing the old games by saying UHM BUT THE SERIES HAS AWLWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS, EVERYONE BUT ME SUCKS !!111!11! (UHM BUT DONT MENTION HOW I REFUSE TO PLAY FRONTIER KEK)
>>729354010I remember that one tard from World who did compilations clips who gained alot of view traction then got wrecked by G. Macao but most people shouldnt have issues with the games progression.>>729354115Nah I skipped 4U because I didn't enjoy base 4. I had no issues with Gore in GU or SB.
>>729354227It ends up being their own decision to not play Frontier and miss out on some of the most fun and kino fights in the entire franchise because its too anime for them, as if 4 dudes with goofy weapons fighting a monster isn't anime to begin with. Oh, and the musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN64m7xyntA
>>729354003Its important to note that we're talking about the average here, it will of course be wildly different at the highest and lowest tiers of gameplay. I can't really speak on either of those extremes, personally.
>>729354335Music is top tier, but playing Frontier is hard. Setting it up is hard, progressing is hard, crafting stuff is hard, actually fighting the monsters is hard, it's just way too much of a pain in the ass.
>>729354262nigger why does your screenshot have black bars, what the actual fuck. are you not using ReFramework to fix the aspect ratio??? i feel offended that you play the game this way
>>729354401Its a screenshot. The games native resolution is 3440x1440p
>>729354376it was also a hard 'slog' for me until i gave in and used the discord (i know..) and found a group in-game that already knew what the fuck they were doing. Renewal is a great server. I feel like you are forced to learn things quickly because you otherwise are straight up not able to complete hunts. Funnily, I like the resistances gimmick in something like Frontier, but adding it to World and Wilds is fucking annoying. Just gives us the Frontier monsters and tonfas or whatever fucking boomerang idea they keep coming back to, and keep the rest of it out. FUCK .
>>729354452yeah, so the screenshot should also be 3440x1440. what the fuck are you doing bossman, it pains me to see that.
>>729354558My phones screenshot. Not natively on the PC.
>>729354262>>729354608>Screenshot_20251225_223753_YouTube>YouTubeI'll give you a pass this One time, anon.
>>729354662Its my run. Not gonna shill my channel
>>729354735fuck it, you have my respect then. ill still hold the stance that the first Gore encounter in 4/4U and in Sunbreak are different enough from one another. but once you're geared? then yeah who cares lol
>>729354840Yeah he is a little bit different between gens 4, 5 and 6 but I'd argue his hunt changes because of Hunter power creep and weapon kits being overhauled so much. IIRC you can trip him alot in gen 4 with progression gear - or at least I did with GS.
>>729354956>you can trip him alot in gen 4je suis monte!
hd texture links for GU/4U?
My theory for why Barioth isn't in Wilds js that Arkveld already fills the role of a spastic white flying wyvern.
>>729355219>why Barioth isn't in Wildsyour expansion bro??
>>729354956You can, he literally was proto nerg and spend most of his time knocked down in 4.Literally the only difficulty of fight with him was him running away to the worst locale in the steppes.Really telling a lot about people defending his 4 version and calling him "kino" for being generic anime rival
>>729353820Is it? I feel like I just button mash with my switch axe. Once you can recruit npcs it became infinitely easier.
>>729355219they're not gonna put in barioth without tigrex and nargacuga.
>>729355219I mean, they are focusing more on monsters that haven't been around for quite some time (Kut Ku, Gog, Congalala, etc.), so putting Barioth in when it was in Iceborne would be a bit odd
>>729356015They are basically the same monster so you just have to bundle them together.
>>729342409Unironically would be a GOATed design if it wasn't stuck in the Frontier-plastic toy limbo
>>729343397sexo
I think I'm about to fight Gogmazios, anons. Wish me luck, I'll report back with the findings.
>>729347861Issue is DPsfags and metaniggers will always push back against a more immersive simulator games, because they just want an action game to flex their times with, and an endgame treadmill to grindThey don't care about immersion
>>729356542I am fine with uhhh "immersion". They already solved this by putting monsters as optional in arenas for speedrunning in all the games. (Milds investigations in arena and SIs in any of the several arenas)
>>729349887I decided I would skip the base game and go straight to the ultimate edition.
>>729344165I hope more people give Stories a chance, those games deserve it.
>>729357569wrong quote?honestly not a bad choice given that almost every base game is mid and every Ultimate/DLC is great>>729356482Well, what's the review?
>>729352078Quality post.
>>729342028They're releasing High quality graphics in times where no one can afford a machine that runs the game well.
>>729354227/thread
>Make a bad game>People don't play itHOEH???
>>729358073I hate World but it looks better than Wilds by a longshot, the reason is just laziness
Average Worldbaby BTW
>>729358462People still play it (unfortunately), just not the millions of tourists who wanted to be part of the trendy hype train that dropped it shortly after launch.
>>729348946rate my fun
>>729349205Haven't played Rise or SB yet. How come it has the lowest no. of active players despite having G-Rank content already? It's currently getting double-teamed and deepthroated by Worldborne, an older game, and Wilds, a High Rank game.
Did they fix the performance yet?>You're just poorI can play the game just fine, I just won't support it as long as it runs like shit.
Ps5 won
>world has Top Tier Black Dragons
>>729342028>fan contentI'm 34 years old and anything I've ever been a huge "fan" of I have never ever made any content of it.So, yeah.
>>729358992cause it looks like tranime ps2 graphics
>>729357757Pretty cool. First phase is fine, but the middle phase is a complete nothing burger waste of time that could be deleted entirely and we'd lose nothing of worth. Having to switch elements mid phase is a bit tedious, but that's a minor complaint I suppose. The final phase is a good version of a DPS check with a lot of bells and whistles so you're not just mashing attack, but it's also a clusterfuck visually at times. I think I was severely under geared for him because every attack was like 80-90% of my health, but he was a fun giant monster fight like Gaismagorm. Overall not that gargwawesome or seregious, but pretty Radalos all thing's considered.
>see all these anons witness the death of their favorite ipI know that feel all to well. Stay strong guys.t. Soulcaliburfag
>as is the case in most MonHun threads these days, there's always that faggot obsessed with World and thinks people who played World didn't also player older games
>>729358992Because Rise and old momhun don't appeal to normalfags.
>>729358992>targets the Japs rather than Westernised globohomo>Is a portable title and thus largely bought on the portal console since few people own decks
>>729358953>stacking all resistances>instead of tailoring the offence and defence depending on what monster you are facing>going into defence at all, unless it's shield skillsnigga
>>729359178>>729359241>released on the normalfag console>bing bing wahoo powerups>flashy epic invincible movesit's normalfag bait. it didn't sell well or retain players because it's shit.
>>729342028Biggest problem? They treat it like live service slop, release an unfinished game and slowly add the content that was supposed to be there day 1 and they expect you to thank them for dripfeeding you shit over a whole year instead of just fucking adding it from the start.If they want MMO shit, make an MMO and fuck off with the dripfeed in the mainline games.
Ahh, he's just a lazy rise shitposter.
>>729359132>because every attack was like 80-90% of my healththat's standard, actuallythe gog armor 4p gives you armor with 75HP that cancels out attacks, even if it only has 1HP left. Gravy Sauce bonus (which you can get with 1P) Gives a 20% dmg reduction on attacks while at full HP the combo is absurd
>>729344070How can human women compete?
>>729352996world is the most faithful game in the series, none of that bingbing shit ever happened
>>729358992rise has been developed for switch first and it was this game's downfall>looks like shit>plays like shit because of tiny maps that give FUCK all reasons to stray off the beaten path unless you are an achievement autistalthough I will admit that fighting malzeno earlier than you're supposed to was keeping me on the edge as this fucker could one shot by looking at your direction
>>729358992The real reason is because average normalfaggots only care about realism, and people shit on Rise for it relentlessly despite it being way more visually similar to past MH than World was (this was before Wilds was out). If you haven't tried it I would highly recommend, you can get it super cheap (or free) and it has some of the best gameplay in the series. Endgame is really great too with the most diverse skill and monster variety to date.
>>729359310Yeah, Japanese normalfags. World and Wilds are the ones focused tested for Western audiences, hence all the DEI crap.
I just remember Rise last boss is flying koi fish, what the fuck were they thinking
>>729359268I couldn't be fucked changing armor sets every fucking hunt, so I just made a generic "cover most" set. I'm also a complete shitter so mushroomancer was there so i could have the equivalent of 13 max potions to boot. I was a dual blade shitter
>>729359486>all the DEI crapI thought "go woke, go broke" :)?
They need to add a sex button, specifically a sex button with the monsters and a new child raising mechanic where you can father baby monsters and raise them with love and care.
>>729359498better than Zorah Slopdoros at least
>>729359538bait aside the only DEI shit was the brown kid that ruined the story. When you mod it, it becomes the most sexually objectified game outside of Skyrim and a chud's paradise.
>>729359548Bro,your monster hunter stories? sex button not included
>>729359596>playing MH games for the story>still parroting muh DEIngmi
>>729359607MHS is too tranime for me. I like the anal cat though, she's cute.
>>729359498The ugly seahorse sex maniacs were a kino final boss.
>>729359498Everyone agree to memory hole the tower defense
>>729359379>that's standard, actuallyReally? 'Cause I don't even have AT gear, I'm still wearing Guardian Arkveld with only two pieces upgraded.>the armour explanationYeah, I had absolutely no clue what the skill list for that armour meant. It doesn't even remotely sound like it does that ingame and there's like 8 other set bonuses with 1 point for some reason.
>>729342028AND THATS A GOOD THING.
>>729359894gog armor is meanr for mixing to get those bonuses activated, you can also get set bonuses on his weapons
>>729360210>it can roll fucking Honey HunterNo, fuck you. I'm not doing this. I don't care how cool the other skill sounds.
>>729359498>>729359701Ibushi spawning to his theme song in the rampage was kino. I'll always remember that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFNcGKnCvA
>>729359498Fighting Allmother for the first time while using IG is one of the most memorable and interactive fights in Monster Hunter history desu, its genuinely like the final fight of an anime where the protagonist gets a massive friendship power up and starts having zero restrictions on their power while the villain is at the peak of their power and has a completely understandable reason for wanting them dead. All to the back drop of your friends cheering you on as they sing the battle theme.
