FOX ENGINE CONFIRMED KOJIMA'S GOAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB5qxp6SPPQ
>>729344686Kojima may have been good at optimization. But the result was that both Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain got completely butchered for consoles. This could be seen from E3 previews by year. My view is that too many compromises were made.
>>729344686So, how much money has he scammed so far? Is he anywhere close to that million?
>>729344686It's a damn shame more games weren't made with FE
>>729344846>>729346415He makes you unreal no devtards seethe bad so I see this as a total win.
>>729344686You can keep seething but his message will only grow until developers are forced to stop being lazy and OPTIMIZE *CLAP* THEIR *CLAP* GAMES
>>729345820Ss-stop noticing things goyim.
>>729344686>shows everything hes talking about>pajeets still cant follow it
>>729344686all I know about this guy is that he says games look and run like shit so I know he's 100% correct
>>729347191No...NOOO NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TRUST THE EXPERTS AND THE DEVELOPERS ON REDDIT
>>729344686>globohomo bootlicking troons that "hate the corpos" seething at a guy actually shitting on corposuh ohh
>>729347191also yeah, apparently people were mad at him so he's definitely correct about everythingI hope his grift works or I hope he fixes graphicsfuck em
Unrealsisters... what FUCK did he mean by this!?!?!? Even the Godotrannies are laughing at us now!
>>729344686>you should optimise your game NOW
>>729347376if he could do anything he would have done it by now
bohemiantrannies seething
>>729347493Just because he hasn’t acted yet doesn’t mean he can't. Sometimes the right move takes time or strategy. If he's been waiting, maybe it's because he’s figuring out the best way to make a real impact, not rushing into something half-baked.
>>729344686so like, is fox engine under konami and all metal gear games? So what engine does it for death stranding 1 and 2?
>>729347191they look good on my machine but i'm not running a gtx750
>>729347571Death Stranding uses Decima engine.
>>729347571it was used for mgsv and ground zeroes, then kojimbo left and konami only used it for soccer games after that. death stranding games are decima (horizon games)
>>729347493Even if he *is* somehow clueless about game engines, which he isn't, Kevin is just a small part of Threat Interactive and not the only person doing researches and investigations
>>729344686I think he is making most stuff up but his thumbnails and overall aura is quite hilarious, Ill give him that atleast
>>729346415Not sure where you're getting that from, but it sounds like you're mixing up rumors with facts. If he's actually working on saving video game graphics, the focus should probably be on his work and the impact he’s trying to make. As for the money side of things, if he's running a legit operation, then that shouldn’t even be part of the conversation. Let's talk about what he’s actually doing, not just the drama.
>>729347672Who are the other people?
>>729346415much less than Unreal scammed everyone to create blurry smeared garbage
>>729344846Come on, really? Threat Interactive would never make something like this. That’s gotta be some random wannabe trying to copy his style, or just some fake account trying to stir the pot. He’s way more legit than that.
>>729344846>>729346415>seething without fail
>>729347653>>729347671oh, so whats the rep of that engine? I swear i never heard of decima engine until you guys mentioned it. Probably do myself a video binge on that topic later
>>729344846You’re seriously blaming Threat Interactive for that? No way. That doesn’t even match his coding style. Whoever made that probably has no idea what they’re talking about, and just slapped his name on it to get attention.
>>729347703This whole thing is just some mix-up. If there were other people, they’d be nowhere near Threat Interactive’s level.
>>729347838It's proprietary, but seemingly great based on its track record. Both Death Stranding 1/2 and Horizon: Zero Dawn/FW use it and they're ludicrously performant on PS5.
>>729347838its guerilla's in-house engine that they use for horizon so its not licensed out. when kojimbo left konami and couldn't take fox with him, sony funded him and hermen hulst and mark cerny showed him decima and he liked it because it had been used for large open world stuff like horizon and that was that. and as we have seen with the pc versions of death stranding and horizon its an engine that ports over quite well.
>>729344686Did ChatGPT write this one for him too?
>>729346415You really think Threat Interactive is out here scamming people for a million bucks? That’s just some wild gossip. If you’re hearing that, it’s definitely not true. He’s just focused on his projects.
>>729344686What does this mean
>>729344846Threat Interactive making something like this? No way. His reputation is built on real, top-tier work. This is just a cheap imitation from someone trying to ride his coattails.
>this thread againBUY A FUCKING ADCRYENGINE DID EVERYTHING IN 2007
what are ue5 games that truly make people pog in the graphics department? most of the games people talk about aren't ue5
>mods won't do anything about the literal spambot ITT
>>729347128It's unlikely anyone even remembers how MGSV was supposed to look at all this point.
the funny thing about drama surrounding this guy is how 99% of video game people can't substantiate their opinions for or against because all they do is install unreal and read unreal docs and use their DCC tools
>>729348310There's no spambot. Take your meds schizo.
>>729348232Honestly, CryEngine was impressive back in the day, but UE5 is the future. If Threat Interactive is working with UE5, it’s no wonder his work looks so much more advanced. Unreal Engine’s tech is just next level.
This thread is extremely low quality.
I've been thinking about the Metal Gear games up to 5 recently.The Fox Engine is certainly cool and interesting but even Metal Gear 2 and Metal Gear Solid are interesting to me from a technology perspective.There's something very pure or clean feeling about Metal Gear Solid and I question how it was constructed and composed.How the engine works, what tooling they used to accomplish this. Each game really seemed to push the bar in some way relative to the previous, maybe not industry wide, but relative to both the previous game and the intentions of the developers. It seems like they were really creating an engine centered around fun or innovative mechanics, and I wonder which drove the direction of the other.Like was the engine really fleshed out and that influenced scenarios in the game, was it the other way around, likely a mix but how much.
>>729348310E-celebs are /v/ culture, newfag!
If the engine is so good why did konami struggle to make a fucking football game using it?
>>729346415Threat Interactive is all about quality and pushing boundaries with his work. If you’ve heard anything about a million-dollar scam, it’s just baseless rumors. He’s too focused on innovation to be doing anything shady.
>>729348160ChatGPT? Please. If you think that’s what’s going on, you’re missing the point. Threat Interactive doesn’t need help from an AI to do real work. He’s fully capable of creating this stuff on his own.
>>729348940I don't remember exactly but I think they got rid of the people working on the metal gear games. Konami may own the engine but that doesn't really mean they will use it to good effect like the original creators did for a different game.
>>729344686>>729345820Kojima didn't make the engine you fucking clods. Do you retards seriously think he did everything himself?
>>729348940>Why did Konami struggle to use the engine after they laid off the staff able to use it?
>>729349246>In 2015 I created the game engine
>>729349298A modern engine needs to be easy to use and understand. If it's held with arcane duct tape and only the guy that coded a feature understands how it works then it's a shit engine.I'm sorry but that's just how it goes in the modern industry workplaces you work at your entire life don't exist anymore it's a constant revolving door of devs.
If that guy is as good as he claims, why hasn't epic hired him to fix unreal 5?
>>729349397Protip, if you work in IT and you make a program that anybody can alter/use, you're expendable.Be the wizard who is the only person who knows how to program for the company.
>>729349397What you wrote doesn't seem to relate in any way.That's like saying C++ is bad because someone made software in it that you didn't like.It seems more like you're assuming the engine is bad because they released a low quality game that uses it. But that reflects more on the project manager than the engine.
>>729349447Unreal is primarily an advertisement and film industry engine now, it's usage as a game engine is like using a sports car as a tow-truck. Yeah it CAN tow a truck at the expense of fucking it's transmission royally.Why would they hire a person who would harm the actual purpose of the engine?
>>729345820Considering those compromises were for RETRO console PS3, it's both a shame and a miracle that it's as it was. I guess some of the environment did take a hit, they look far more lo res than the interactable objects.
>>729349526because the gaming industry is bigger than the film industry?
>>729349565Game devs are going to use unreal anyways, Epic gets paid either way.Why the fuck would they want optimized engines, when unoptimized ones are easier to make/maintain, AND get a sizable bonus from GPU manufacturers with under the table payments?It's bad business to make a good product.
>>729348375You should post those pictures with someone crouching over a tank and a gaping bald marine(?).
>>729349672i guess it's foolish of me to think making the consumers happy is a better long-term business decision
>>729348375Forgot one image. Yeah no one remembers what this engine was originally showing off. If those ground zero downgrades look bad then most of you don't know the half of it. The game we never got was more technically impressive.
so did he move on from his ue grift, will he do rage next?
>>729349246yea it was clearly hideo, kojima is just the ideas guy
one day they're going to re-implement IP counters and these threads will be funny
>>729348703random bit of trivia, the MGS games all share code, even when they made the MGS2, MGS4 and FOX engines they were all built on the MGS1 engine. even MGSV still has code from MGS1.
>>729347804So basically Randy Prickford fear this guy?
>>729350009he's not a grifter though
>>729350009Watch Threat Interactive videos. Timmy Tencent is a blight on gaming.
>>729348191Threat Interactive improving Unreal Engine? It's about time. Unreal's performance has been a pain for years, and something needed to be done.
>>729351309He's making Unreal Engine feel more polished, which is nice. I’m hoping it cuts down on those annoying frame rate dips.
>>729344846What's the issue? All he's changing is some TAA value to one they use in another engine. I don't see how it's nonsense, that guy is just being a dick dev
>>729344686>>729347002I love this guy for the simple fact that he makes Unrealjeets absolute fume
Does anyone actually understand these videos?>inb4 insultsNo seriously, I am pretty sure 99% of people have no idea wtf is he talking about and just trying to fit in.
The spam bots are from Threat Interactive. He doesn't know how to spam with subtlety, so instead he falseflags as another falseflagger falseflagging as him to appear as the bot's just being a falseflagging scheme. The bots are from Threat Interactive. He is using layered falseflagging to spam his trash in /v/ while pushing the blame off to an imaginary schizo falseflagger that doesn't exist.
>>729346964>>729347783>>729347804>>729347903>>729348229you are a retarded turd shill
>>729351564Is there proof of this?
>>729351512>>729351564>>729351615
>>729347694>>729347754>>729348191>>729348965you are a retarded turd shill
>>729351615Unreal takes an hour to open, has to be opened in the fucking epic store, and as someone who likes to things from scratch it feels like your constantly working around all the limiting premade stuff they want you to use. The editor runs slow and isn't comfy at all as a result of that and the long time it takes to open. I also have found myself getting worse performance even after turning off the dozens of fancy lighting and visual things that are on by default that I don't want. Unreal feels like it's designed for making realistic shooters first and foremost. O know it's used for far more but it really does always feel like your forcing it to do things it doesn't really want to do whenever you're using it. It was my first choice for an engine but I just didn't like it at all. Unity was my third choice but here we are. I don't like a lot about it but it just feels better suited to my purposes than Unreal does.
>>729349115>>729351406>>729351663you are a retarded turd shill
>>729351615have you ever used unreal? or any engine for that matter? or are you an armchair developer
>>729351663You will never EVER do anything in Unreal and Unity that you couldn't do with Godot, so why the fuck are you using any of them when you can just use something which allows you actual ownership of what you're doing?
>>729351512>Does anyone actually understand these videos?that's the point so retards give him money>>729351719>>729351678the guy is a grifting scammer you retard>>729351663that's you, you retarded grifter
>>729351780You grow weaker every day and take meds that make you slightly high but you don't need to go to work anymore.
>>729351780>gets called schizophrenic>doubles down on the schizophrenia>refuses to take meds
>>729351829you are a retarded turd shitskin shill
How many layers of falseflagging are we on right now?
>>729351863>>729351829take your meds you retarded shill
>>729344686Who and who? Buy an ad
>>729351871Take meds anon lmao.God you're so mentally ill this isn't even joke.
it's so obvious the retarded grifter made this threads and is in the thread>>729351939take your meds you retarded shill
>>729351926ok maybe you should just take meds and kys.be sure to play heaven burns red first though.
>>729351672>unreal engine defender>no YOU are the shills!lol. lmao even.
>>729351968>>729352004kys you retarded turd
>>729351897That's some blatant samefagging. You know that no one cares about sales right? So why would you think bringing up sales to falseflag would be the way to go?
>>729352004>>729351968you are defending a grifter that wants a million dollars for nothing you retarded turd
>>729351897Imagine being such a psychopath that you seek out threads for a game you supposedly don't like to falseflag. I bet a lot of that time could have been spent playing games you like, but you're a phoneposter in Brazil, so you can't do that.
>>729352004calling out a grifter isn't defending unreal you retarded turd
>>729352098>grifterleftist buzzword
>>729352158you are a retarded turd
>>729352098>If you disagree with me you're a grifter>I have this image savedDude you're a whackjob. Let me guess, you're a mentally ill leftist.
Ever wondered why his face looks heavily filtered? That's because it is. This is what Threat Interactive looks like once you turn off the filters.
>>729347903>That doesn’t even match his coding stylehow would you know his coding style you fucking retard
>>729352203Sure sure, discord tranny.
Forzatech, FUEL (used for the new Fable), idtech8, and motor engine, and Creation Engine 2 clear.
>>729352186you can look at his patreon you disgusting retarded turd>>729352259you are a discord tranny you retarded turd
>>729352223Because I've literally studied thousands of public repos, including his indentation quirks, variable naming habits, comment patterns, the whole vibe. It's like recognizing Picasso's brushstrokes vs. a kindergarten finger-paint knockoff.
>>729352259>discord trannyyou just exposed yourself you retarded shill
>>729352275You shills are too obvious
>>729352298sure you did you fucking retard and you just happen to be in this thread>>729352343you are a retarded turd
>>729352324>discordtranny has no argumentsAs expected. I accept your concession.
>>729352380you have no argument you retarded discord trannyAs expected. I accept your concession.
>>729352368Correct, they're indians like you.
>>729352425Correct, you are an indian you retarded turd
>>729352298seek mental help if this is actually true
>>729352415kys faggotimagine being a ue5 jeet shill
>>729345820I don't fucking care.It's still many times better than most engines.
why is he DMCA videos that expose him if he isn't a grifter?>>729352454kys you retarded turd imagine being a jeet defending a scammer
>>729352452Making something wholly new is easy.Changing existing code is the hard part, especially if it's legacy shit built by someone else a decade ago who's not there anymore that you barely understand how it works and the slightest tweak can fuck up everything.
>be kojima>make mgs4 as your last mgs game>"actually... kojima-san...">fuck, they're making me do another one>alright, i guess if i'm going to be doing mgs until the end of my life...>...might as well make a rock solid engine to build on>lay the foundations>do everything *right*>game's coming along nicely, finally got all the bugs fixed>hold on what's this>they send me to clean toilets in a pachinko factory>(obviously getting illegally fired japanese style)>ip gone, engine gone>well, at least we did some good work...>they switch to Unreal Engine 5If Death Stranding had failed he would have shot up the Konami offices, guaranteed.
>>729352516as the guy said >>729352452
>>729347671It was also used for Silent Hills/P.T.
>>729352515Kys you corporate shill cuck. Take up the ass
>>729352613Kys you grifter shill cuck. Take up the asswhy do you DMCA videos you retard?
>>729352647lol dawg that faggot seemed to have mindbroken you hard. Unironically take your meds.
>>729352675take your meds you retarded turdwhy do you DMCA videos you retard?
>>729352736Least obvious shill for an ugly Unreal Engine game with "Nintendo hire this man" tier graphics and boring gameplay to accompany it
>>729352778you are too obvious you retarded turdwhy do you need million dollars and dmca video you retard?
>>729352820Meds, schizoid retard, meds this instant, you retarded faggot.
>>729352873Meds, schizoid retard, meds this instant, you retarded faggot.why do you need million dollars and dmca video you retard?
>>729352904not your schizo boogeyman faggotstop posting your off-topic garbage and take your meds
>>729348824>sphereapproved by who? his fellow faggots?
>>729352873>>729352935why are you ignoring the million dollars and dmca question you retarded grifter turd?>>729352935>not your schizo boogeyman faggotthen why are you in the thread and defending a grifter you retarded turd?
>>729351780Oh so you are that UE shill retard called Dallas Drapeau ?The one that got mad with a supposed DMCA? I don't care about your melodrama bullshit with Threat Interactive.The only thing I know is that you've yet to counter his criticism towards this shitty engine from Epic.The fact that almost all games that utilize UE5 looks and run like shit. Image quality looks like crap.What the hell are you and the guys at Epic thinking ?How much money are you winning to defend this shitty engine anyway ?
>>729353003>why do you need million dollars and dmca video you retard?answer the questions you retarded turdalso you are making it pretty obvious you are threat interactive you retarded grifting scammer
>>729348626> UE5 is the futureThe future is doomed.Ps: KC2, Ryse and Crysis 1~3 mogs any UE5 game I've seen.
*shits on fox engine*
>>729352945Christian XXX doesn't have AIDS. He's still fucking whores and filming.
>>729352492I think if the act of downgrading comes into the picture and then we talk about great optimization then it's sort of like false praise. Because it wasn't what the game could have been if we judge by various footage by 2012, 2013, 2013, 2014. If Kojima didn't have the falling out with Konami then it might have once classified as marketing bs
>>729353003>Oh so you are that UE shill retard called Dallas Drapeau ?how do you immediately know which guy threat interactive dmca'd you fucking retard?
Troons and ue5jeets are so buckbroken by this chuddie they literally piss and shit themselves to defend a video game ENGINE online that even normgroids know is absolute trash that literally NO ONE can use to make a good game to save their life and all examples of games that dont run or look like absolute slop with ue5 are ALL the ones where bigger game dev studios literally both modify the game engine code itself AND disabled ALL "features" ue5 markets itself with like nanite, lmao.
>>729353150There's a noticeable difference between low and high settings in the Horizon game. While in MGSV it's visually the same.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCbzJWpCIY
>>729353234you are a retarded trannywhy do you need million dollars and dmca video you retard?
>>729353079Donate? I'm not even subscribed to their channel.I don't fucking care about donating to them. They can shove their donations up into their asses.Now answer the questions.Can you counter what they are saying on their videos or not ?Will you release a video about it or what?
still no answer why this retarded grifter needs a million dollars and why he dmca videos that expose him>>729353306>Can you counter what they are saying on their videos or not ?i'm not watching your shit videos
>>729353342>i'm not watching your shit videosshill somewhere else then
>>729353285>confirms every word in my post as he adds nothing and pisses himself with seetheOoooooof, thanks.
>>729353267
>>729353384>shill somewhere else thenyes do that you retard>>729353395why do you need million dollars and dmca video you retarded turd?
>>729353492>t.
>>729348232>BUY A FUCKING ADWhy?! I can shill him for free! He's /v/ related.
>>729353605asking for a million dollars isn't v related, he's a scammer and you are a retard for shilling him
>>729353342> I'm not watching your shit vi-"my videos" lolAs I said, answer the questions : are you gonna release a new video talking about the engine issues or not ?Will you shill the engine forever ?Can you counter what Threat Interactive has said or not ? >>729353205Similar behavior.Can be other person but I highly suspect that is that guy called Drapeau.
>>729353764you are a retarded turdwhy do you need million dollars and dmca videos?
>>729353764stop using chatgpt for coding you absolute retard
>>729353894I'll use whatever means necessary to achieve my goals. >>729353824Because I'll make you and UE shills get mad.
>>729345820Is there any mod to restore some of these graphical effects ?Or is FOX Engine hard to mod ?
>>729353150Decima engine is incredibly good but it's unfortunately used for fucking Horizon
>>729354568I doubt restoring what was there is actually possible at all, the PC version of the game just got forced parity with consoles, and obviously the PC version is still far superior to the console versions. But i doubt fox engine modding can ever achieve it. Some of it is not even visible in the image because aspects can only be seen in motion. Like for example this part.
Another helpful old image. But it doesn't tell the whole story regarding literally better lighting models used in older fox engine images from back in 2011, as posted earlier in the thread.
>>729347493You can't fix a game engine by your lonesome.
