Is it?
For 1080p yes, its is.You don't need ultra settings too.
yes for everything worth playingotherwise it's slop
>>729349950No~12GB is the comfort zone.A weaker card with more VRAM is preferrable to a more powerful card with less.
I’m upgrading from my 24GB to 32GB for future proofing. Especially because I predict an even more epic computing crunch come 2026
>>729349950Its enough but getting more is like going from HDD to SSD
>>729349950Yes, devs need to stop creating unoptimized slop, games nowadays don't look that much better than Skyrim and that worked perfectly smooth with gpus 1000 times worse than a mid range card from today
>>729349950Yes, for 1080p low settings.
>>729349950Yeah, modern games suck anyway.
>>729349950It isn't. It can run most things, but not comfortably; you have to actively manage things to make sure you're not putting too much strain on it and it's a total crapshoot for any game made after ~2017. 16gb would be better, but the only reason most people aren't using 24-32gb is because nvidia has an iron grip monopoly and fucking despises the consumer.
>>729349950No, its a compromise that people will have to live with becuase billionaires priced average consumers out of >>729349974anything better.
>>729350498seriously why arent they shipping the lowest with 12gb and the highest with 64 by now?this is crazy and easy for them to do
>>729350538it's enough. you think it isn't enough because you're an addicted gaymer and constantly need to gulp developer cock, but it's enough.
>>729349950You don't NEED more than 4.>t. RX474 Chad
>>729349950I went from a 3080 10 GB to a 9070 XT 16 GB recently.I feel like 10 GB is the very edge of what's acceptable in many modern games at 1440p. Anyone who has a 3080 10 GB and up, I wouldn't recommend upgrading unless they find a good deal. 8 GB would be a severely limiting factor if you play modernslop though.
>>729350783Thanks for the input elon.
i have over 50gb of vram on a single cardyou should learn to mod your parts
>>729349950Whats funny is that we've been having this discussion since the 3070 came out over 5 years ago
You need disgusting amounts of vram nowadays because Tim's Unreal Engine is an utter piece of shit, but like the piece of shit he is he'll blame his engine's poor performance on developers for not using it right or on consumers for being poor.
>>729349950If you need more then you're playing bad games
>>729352687Name 1 good game that requires more than 8gb vram
>>729352819Jackie Chan
>>729350380The 4k textures are a separate download for a reason.
All the best games ever made have already been released minus a couple. So yes it is enough
>tfw 2060 with 4gbI don't feel so good, bros.
You do not need more than 16GB of RAM and 8GB of VRAM.Game devs will simply have to start optimizing their games again if they want people to play them.
>>729353387I hope Rasheed reads your post, bro.
the problem isnt whether or not 8GB is enough. the problem is that 8GB is too fucking expensive. 12GB was the standard in the 3060 yet nvidia has clawed VRAM back. at this point 16GB should be bare minimum for 5060 and 8GB should be reserved for shit tier budget cards like the 5050.
>>729352819>ha ha, whatever game he names I'll just say is shit>I can't lose!
>>729353387Not happening, they stopped optimizing games on purpose, in their minds everyone will spend thousands of dollars to upgrade and play the next big gay thing. In a way, their scheme sort of works because jeets actually spend that kind of money on their LED reddit rigs.
>>729353607>afraid to list a game because he knows it will be rightfully called shitNot even 1 was named btw
>>729350585Market segmentation. They need to get the most that you are willing to pay by making a minor change to the product lineup. This results in increased supply of useless product and decreased supply of expensive product in order to justify expense without just outright burning their excess product (though Nvidia isn't averse to hiding or smuggling product illegally).They also don't want the consoomer segment to cannibalize the enterprise segment, since enterprise still pays extra for subscription and warranties thast consoomer doesn't give a shit about.
>>729349950I'm running 48GB currently but only for playing games (molestation) with my daughters (AI). Planning to get it up (my dick, and the VRAM) to 72GB soon.
>>729349950Yes, but it's the minimum.
>>729349950It's pushing its limit. I can get away with 1440p on mixed high/ultra settings, steady 60 to 100 fps on most AAA games (really only excluding MH Wilds which has to be set to 1080p high/medium, but that's probably because its an unfixable mess made on an engine it shouldn't be on), and have no problem playing indies at 4K maxed out.
>>729349950yeah
I need to finally upgrade my 970 when Pragnata comes out.
my computer is 11 years old. i haven't played a graphically intensive new release in years at this point. hardware prices are skyrocketing, so doesnt look like im gonna be able to upgrade anytime soon. luckily we are spoiled for choice in great non-hardware-intensive games as well.
cards should be 96G STANDARD by now
>>729349950Enough for what? We had high end 8GB cards in 2015, 10 years on if you're buying anything mid range or higher it should have 12-16GB minimum.
>>729349950Nothing is enough for unoptimized trash.
>>72935005316GB is the comfort zone so 5070ti and not the fagmaxx'd 5070. 12 might last a year if that. We had shit in 2025 pushing 12 gigs already.
is my 5 year old laptop worth 2grand nowadays???
>>729349950Why video games no need 16 gb ram and ssd when games that look literally the same don't? What is this shift called? I thought i would not be able to run Doom 2016 but i was running it on max smoothly on my ancient system, but Expedition 33 and Baldours gate are listed as impossible to even open.
What's crazy is 4K is now requiring over 16GB VRAM, so even the RTX 5080 struggles.Sucks that game devs don't give a shit about 4K, and Njudea marks up VRAM, like for the 5090.
>>729349950it will be eventually. given that the ram shortage that is ALREADY going to last till 2029 is going to impact gpu's, its pretty much a given that the current stock of gpu's are going to be the last time anyone gets a decent price for them. come next year expect gpu prices to double. new gpu's? forget it, they are already lowering production on the current, just released right now shit. why make a "6080" if they can only make 200 units because theres no ram, and those 200 units, even at 5 grand a pop wont cover the r&d of making new gpus in the first place.so with that in mind, knowing that home computing and hobbyist grade hardware is about to just grind to a complete halt, developers and programmers will be literally forced to learn to optimize. the market will be literally unable to upgrade to better hardware, so just relying on consumers to brute force shit and buy the next round of gpus will evaporate.and so the only way to increase your sales or marketshare is to make your product run better on more of the available hardware, which will be shittier and shittier pc's. if you got lucky and got a decent rig now, your in luck because shits just gonna get more and more optimized. for everyone else, sucks 2 be u, youll just get what weve got but almost playable.
>>729357209The 5080 is not a 4k GPU.>b-but it can do better in older titlesIn which 16 GB is enough. Yes it will chug if we ever get texture packs that go over 16 GB but that is unlikely to happen any time soon due to the absolute state of (V)RAM prices.
>>729349950it's too much.you deserve much less.
it's too much, no modern games have been worth playingif you can run a ps2 emulator, then you're good
>>7293509382GB? What the fuck do you need 1GB for?
>>729350380Splinter Cell Chaos Theory had better textures than left on the original Xbox
>>729350053this is the right anwsersince the 1080 Ti is still a great value even now
>>729349950Nope when piss 6 comes out it will be pushed aside completely.So 2y
>>72934995024GB isn't even enough. You need at least 32GB for the upcoming 5K path tracing era.
>>729352729A card I told everyone on /v to avoid and then everyone pretended they didn't see the infinite threads
>>729358074>asking for 512MBthe hubris of the goyim
>>729358290>24GB isn't even enough. You need at least 32GB for local AIftfy
>>729350053There's an earlygame spot in SH2 that goes to 14gb used memory. The orange fog level in midgame in Hell is Us with the same behavior, and another in Cronos when you reach the apartments before hospital. 12gb gpus are already dying but nobody will notice it because access media don't progress past an hour's mark.
>bought a new PC with a 5070ti a few months ago before shit started exploding
Choose between:>5060ti 16gb>5070 12gbWhich is superior and why?
>>7293595245070ti 16gb or don't waste your money
>>729359661>>729359524For real bro, if you are going to spend the money, spend that tiny bit extra and get a 5070ti. Dont even waste your time with a regular 5070 or a 5060
>>729359524The 5060ti 16gbThe extra power wont matter if your hitting VRAM limits
>>729359524- 5060titdp 180 WattMem bus width 128 bit~26% less peak peromance than 5070$430- 5070 tdp 250 Watt (way hotter)Mem bus width 192 bit$550
>>729359772>tiny bit extra>Twice the price
>>729359847If you could buy a car for half the price but it was made out of cardboard and balsa wood, would you do it?
>>729359907The entire 5xxx gen is made out of cardboard and balsa woodQuit trying to pretend its notIf you are in need of a card get what you NEED only dont try to future proof we have seen what thats worth with jewvidia
>>729359975A 5070ti is what you need if you plan on making a built to run modern games at 1440p 120fps.
>>729360058>1440p 120fps.If thats what you need then go for it sure, but if youre only doing 1080p at 60fps the 5060ti is more than enough
Even 12GB didn't seem enough when I had it.I have a 16GB 9070XT and I noticed that for the first fucking time while playing Control (I use it as a benchmark, I actually never put more than half an hour in this game) it no longer makes the textures look like shit when I'm far enough. I'm looking at a painting from a distance and I have a smooth transition rather than this horseshit >>729350380Then again, I recall asking about it maybe a year ago, and it seems the max texture quality setting is bugged out in Control and is actually worse than the setting below that
>>729360131If you are happy with 1080p in 2025 then a Switch 2 is enough.
>>729349950In a perfect world, yes. But that's not the world we live in. There's plenty of dogshit ports that eat up 8gb of vram and still need more
i have 6
>>729353657They're in for a rough wakeup then.
>>729360341I have 3.5
8GB is trash. I play games at 1080p and even that ends up using more than 12GB of VRAM in a lot of modern games. 16GB is the new bare minimum I'll ever buy. Also lmaoing at poorfags who still play crap at 60 FPS.
I feel like 12GB is cutting the line very fine these days. I wouldn't get anything under 16GB tbqh.
>RX 9060 xt 16 gbWaiting for January for February for prices to go slightly down again. Not paying the Christmas tax on graphic cards.
>>729359524If you are not willing to pay more for 5070ti, i would consider 9070xt instead.
>>729359524RX9070 16gb
>>729361085I have a 9060xt and its nice. Why are you posting these ugly pictures?
>>7293595249070 16 GB, or better yet 9070 XTUnless you actually professionally need cuda shit, there is absolutely no sane reason to buy Nvidia
>>729361662I'm not ugly, biggot!!!1
>>729360616It's worth noting that these measures are frequently reserved memory, not actual used memory
>>729353326yet they way more for the presentation regardless of resolution
>>729361820Hmm so in directX12 they allocatehttps://gpuopen-librariesandsdks.github.io/D3D12MemoryAllocator/html/
>>729361907*do way morehad a stroke.
>>729361914>Allocation performance>Creating D3D12 resources (buffers and textures) can be a time-consuming operation. The duration can be unpredictable, spanning from a small fraction of a millisecond to a significant fraction of a second. Thus, it is recommended to allocate all the memory and create all the resources needed upfront rather than doing it during application runtime. For example, a video game can try to create its resources on startup or when loading a new level. Of course, is is not always possible. For example, open-world games may require loading and unloading some graphical assets in the background (often called "streaming").
>>729361106>>729361149>>729361743AMD can't do clankers
>>729353387This is the truth but anons won't accept it. Remember Crysis would run fine on a 512mb 8800 GTS and 4gb of DDR2 RAM
>>729361976It makes sense that if you need to do texture streaming because of snall VRAM that you get more latency spikes and more memory fragmentation. Depends on the engine tho how they are doing it. More VRAM just reduces the necessity for a gamedev to do efficient memory allocation
>>729362159So, if a game stutters on 8GB VRAM you can blame the gamedev for doing a bad job with memory allocation.
>>729359023I'm just getting second GPU.
>>729350380I was about to mention Space Marine 2 was the only game that gave me trouble on my 4060, the textures won't load in half the time until you pause the game for a few seconds
I only have a laptop with a Nvidia 1650 I believe and upgraded to 24g ram.The best looking game I can play is red dead redemption 2 on ultra setting with stable 30 frames. It seems my processor is the biggest problem for never games.I want to upgrade to a tower but with the current ram prices it's not worth it.A dream for me is to play VR stuff too but I've heard it needs really high specs to work.
>>729361976>Creating and releasing D3D12 resources on a separate thread in the background may help. Both ID3D12Device and D3D12MA::Allocator objects are thread-safe, synchronized internally. However, cases were observed where resource creation calls like ID3D12Device::CreateCommittedResource were blocking other D3D12 calls like ExecuteCommandLists or Present somewhere inside the graphics driver, so hitches can happen even when using multithreading.So texture streaming in the background still can block the main game loop, leading to stutter. Its over for small VRAM cards
>>729362372Ideally game devs just allocate everything at program starup und the reuse the dx12 resources as needed, avoiding all allocation stalls. But this is probably easier said than done and then they need to effectively run their own memory allocation scheme, ideally avoiding all stalls in the main game loop. Maybe if they were using priority locking, favoring reads over writes, so that loading is stalled if the main game loop needs to render something. I dont know if this is realistic though.
>>72934995010gb 3080 wasn't enough for CP2077, a 5 year old game.
>>729363172>oh no i cant play the transRPG that lets me have boobs and a penis at the same time, im missing out on an experience of a lifetime
>>729363172more like a game for 5 year olds lol lmao rofl pmsl lms2d
>>729359907This is a really stupid analogy and didn't make sense like you thought it did
>>729362028Yeah it can, just half as slow as Nvidia. When you consider AMD is half the price it works out the same.
>>729350380>textures look worse than on PS3 with 256MB VRAMTruly grim
>>729363726It's entirely the fault of the developers. It's not hard to downscale a texture while also maintaining details, they clearly were just lazy and said >lol well everyone has a $3000 graphics card anyway right?
>>729349950No
>>729363865Wasn't PC Gaming supposedly be the cheap option for gaming? Only plus is emulation and that you can upgrade+ pirated games.
>>729362372>Residency priority>When too much video memory is allocated, one of the things that can happen is the system demoting some heaps to the system memory. Moving data between memory pools or reaching out directly to the system memory through PCI Express bus can have large performance overhead, which can slow down the application, or even make the game unplayable any more. Unfortunately, it is not possible to fully control or prevent this demotion. Best thing to do is avoiding memory over-commitment. For more information, see section "Avoiding running out of memory" above.what a hack
>>729364101That was true 10-20 years ago. Big nose money tribe caught wind that they could just stop compressing games, force post processing fx with no way to disable them, add thousands of individual volumetric lighting and particle fx to every scene, and then charge $90 to top it all off. PC gaming is now a very lucrative business.
>>729349950For anything before 2020, absolutely.And that's all you need anyway.
>>729364101>Wasn't PC Gaming supposedly be the cheap option for gaming?In terms of games, with Steam and Epic constantly dropping prices of the games all the time....it's the hardware that is expensive (even before ai era)
>>729350380now take a look at a game from 2000 to 2010 and the textures look way better and take up like 500mb VRAM.Your argument is that devs can make games look like shit and consume endless VRAM and so we must buy buy buy buy
>>729364493>it's the hardware that is expensiveTotally avoidable if you just pretend it's 2010 and buy outdated hardware and play actually good games but if your plan is to play the newest slop then enjoy spending $10k on a reddit rig
>>729362039woah, that game must consume like 128GB of VRAM!!!!!
>>729357940WOAH, 32GB VRAM IS NOT ENOUGH?!?!!?!? I NEEED TO BUY A GPU WITH MORE VRAM THAT WILL HELP RUN THI SGAME BETTA!!!!
>>729357940Borderlands 4 used to run terribly but is now optimised. I wouldn't give a shit about that chart with the only info from it, the bigger the better.
>>729364836I dont really believe that.
>>729349950I've been using 4gb VRAM and 12gb RAM since like 2016 and only once stuff like RE2make and Doom Eternal started coming out did I have to start fiddling with graphics. I can run RE5 at like 500FPS. That said, I'm definitely at a point where I have to consider upgrading. My old PC needs a new HD and my motherboard could handle upgrading to 16gb of DDR3 and all that's probably going to be around $400, but that's $400 that I could throw at a decent prebuilt since RAM prices are fucked to the point that buying a prebuilt is basically just buying RAM and getting a free PC to put it in.
>>729349950Yes, if games were as optimised today as they used to be. The optimisation problem was solved in 2008, yet every technique games used to use has been abandoned as the entire rendering pipeline has been passed onto JavaScript developers instead of actual engineers.
>PS3/360 had to intelligently stream in textures on the fly based on where your charcter/viewpoint is for dealing with 256mb of VRAM>modern game devs just dump the entirety of it all into VRAM and wonder why it breaks on 8gb cards
>>729367462We have SSD's too now, so streaming is faster than ever. Modern game devs have no excuse.
>>729350086>I predict an even more epic computing crunch come 2026What do you think will be the cause this time?
>>729368750Jews
>>729349950Considering what games could do with 4 or even less, yes 8GB SHOULD be enough but everything's bloated to shit now.
>>7293690098GB of RAM can barely run Windows 11
>>729369224Grim innit.
>>729369009>>729369224If a game says it needs 16GB on Windows, it only needs 8GB on Linux. Maybe 10GB at most.
>>729369415I'm running shitcord and firefox on linux and I have 5.8GB of usage, why do people say there's no RAM hogging on linux?I guess if you use some obscure twm and whatever other nerd bullshit that would put off anyone with life prospects and dreams?
Am I gonna make it in 2026?
>>729369653He used to be correct, before the RUST takeover.
>>729367462Modern game devs are a fucking meme.I'm not even just shitting on AAA studios which obviously want you to buy new hardware, most indie devs don't know a fucking thing or care about optimization either. Some games should take 12MB instead of 1.2GB. Take 100mb of RAM instead of 4GB. GPU usage should be minimal but here's all that fucking buzzing just to display this piece of shit at 30fps. I played this photography simulator recently. "Modern" graphics, but when you look close it's last gen at best even maxed out. Maxed out gives you maybe 30 fucking FPS on a 9070xt. Input lag up the ass. This has to be done on purpose.
>>729369856I would go way before that though.I remember running on 1GB of RAM just fine. Only KDE and GNOME would give me a bit of trouble.Rust definitely made things so fucking stupid it's blackpilling but it's been a while since I've seen Linux have such a big edge on RAM usage. And what was worst about it is that I was seeing desktops with less RAM usage with Plasma than XFCE while running nothing.And browsers for the longest time have been absolute RAM hogs. Chromium based, Firefox based it doesn't matter. I have 32GB of RAM and even I fucking struggle. I cannot imagine someone today using 8GB of RAM, I pity them. 8GB of RAM should be sufficient for everything and now these faggots are destroying it all.
>>729369938>don't know a fucking thing or care about optimization eitherI am definitely having trouble with this with my Godot project, but it's not for lack of trying. It's more complete fucking lack of decent documentation/guides/workflows for how you should be managing your scene's drawcalls and what Godot itself favors, since it doesn't batch shit in the same way as Unity. My fault for not just sticking with Unity though.>Some games should take 12MB instead of 1.2GBAll those 'retro' indie games that should be a 30mb, but are 2gb instead because of FLAC soundtracks, and full RGB textures when most games of the actual era were using limited palettes or greyscale w/ vertex colours.
>>729349974>>729349950i like to use mods.
>>729369653Shitcord is a Chromium app and Firefox is shit, and despite all that, Windows still manages to uses more RAM than that with no applications open.
>>729369661>4gb of vramIt's over for you.
>>729369661Go back to bed cynic
>>729349950With the crush on the RAM market it better be, programmers will be forced to actually work and optimize their games.
>>729362039This mogs the fuck out of so many games still its unreal
>>729370451No they won't. They'll just start allowing their PS5 releases to run sub-30fps inplace of optimizing.
>>729370451No way RAM stays fucked. It will come back down like storage did. Only reason GPUs remain high is because NVIDIA and AMD don't give a singular fuck anymore and there's no other competition.
9070XT is on the mail though, i'm gonna make it
>>729365790That's because you don't play video games and only come here for outrage.
>>729353387>Game devs will simply have to start optimizing their games againLost knowlege anon. There is no "optimize" slider in UE5.
>>729349950When you turn off the giga 16k ultra mega giga texture setting that's designed to quadruple vram consumption for no reason, yeah
Seriously, which demanding video games are worth buying high spec GPUs for? Most interesting games out there are becoming lower and lower spec. I haven't played STALKER 2, but it seems to be so poorly optimized, given the requirements vs how the game looks. I heard people saying Borderlands 4 looks worse than 3 while being juch more demanding, and that series has always been mediocre gameplay wise anyway.It seems to be even games that get praised like STALKER 2 have the poor performance issue looming. Lots of games that got attention are indie, smaller budget that don't need a RTX 5090 to run well
>>729370746Holy shit you’re literally me
you faggots always say anything else is shit unless it just came out
>>729372320Very popular build apparently
>>729349950is getting extra vram really that important over performanceshould I really go for the b580 even though it's like 10-20% slower compared to the 5060 or the 9060
>>729349950here comes the gaslighting >is bugs for food good enough?>are people refusing mrna injections evil?>should people own computers?etc etc, yada yada yiddish, you know the fucking drill
8gb was fine until the upscaling/temporal-artifacts era came in full force
>>729349950I have a 12gb card and play at 1080p, I feel like 8GB of ram is enough to play games at 1080p but if you want to enable ultra textures and/or mods then 12GB of vram is probably closer to the minimum requirement.
Given I mostly just play Japanese games, and Capcom of late can't into 8gb VRAM, I'd say 16gb is minimum mandatory.
>>729349950Any game worth a damn can easily be played 1080p / 60fps on a 4GB GTX 1050ti + 4 core CPU + 8GB DDR3
>>729350498>it's a total crapshoot for any game made after ~2017I was on 1GB GTX 560ti up until late 2017. All games up until that point, even the year's big hits like RE7, ran smooth as butter at 1080p/60.I got the GTX 1060 6GB and I used it all the way to late 2024, zero issues. It really was only the recent UE5 slop that made it borderline inefficient... but that shit runs like ass no matter the HW.Lesson learned: avoid UE5 shit, and life is good!
>>729373898There's very rare examples of UE5 being toaster optimized, so the engine isn't inherently bad but in the hands of I'd say 90% of developers it's trash. No UE5 game is worth buying blind day one, need at least a week of reviews and testing before you even know if you're dealing with a game or a dumpster fire.
>>729370459Actually, it's Crytek :^)
>>7293704592007 Crysis released, and while graphics did get better they didn't get make anywhere near the same leaps and bounds. Most 'impressive' graphics look fake and plastic as fuck, CryEngine makes things look realistic, Kingdom Come really showed what it could do.Red Dead 2 is going on for 8 years old now as well and that was very impressive looking while running on 2gb VRAM
>>729350086>futurefags
>>729372219Stalker 2 just runs and looks like absolute shit, you have to fiddle with the graphics options so much and get mods that sort out the lighting. The first STALKER game on X Ray was so much more impressive for the time, Unreal Engine games just suck in so many ways.
>>729362039You know what's the problem with game's graphical requirements, is that Crysis showcased why you needed to upgrade. All the tons of physics in it, punching a shack with strength mode and watching it collapse, the bullets downing trees, the vegetation, it made sense. Nowadays games look alright, and the system requirements are insane. So no thanks that's not worth upgrading over.
>>729359524If you play modded Skyrim 5060ti 16gb
enough for my rpgmaker h games
I've gotten such good mileage out of my 2080ti Zotac, I'm so happy I went with it at the time of its release from my old 980
>>729373712this man speaks the truth
>>729374339Yeah but you can't run like 800 simultaneous instances of rpgmaker h games without 16GB vram.
>>729349950It's enough for Rimworld and Factorio
>>729370723AI companies like Open AI, with its near unlimited money to burn, are buying uncut ram wafers and just stacking them up. 40%-50% of the world supply in some sort of FU all mine power move. Seemly made to starve other companies more than it helps open AI. Everyone else is hording everything as they wait for data centers. This isn't like crypto and GPUs where there was a clear end. Consumers are totally screwed for at least all of 2026.
If you're riding out the impending DRAMpocalypse with an 8GB GPU you've had for some time, then so be it. If you're in the market for a new GPU before prices go up at the end of the year, get something with 12GB+.
5070ti is the only acceptable budget cardafter that you can only go upanything lower than that and you're just throwing money away
>>729376013>$750>budget cardYou must be on that stuff.
>>729376075 im trying to save you from heartacheit's a white people thing
>>729349950maybe if all you play is Solitaire lmfaooooooo
>>729376075It's a budget card if the top of the line costs 2500, yes. It doesn't mean it's for your budget.
>>729376184I have a 5090 and pretty much only play idle, auto battler, pixel, and clicker games.
>>729349950Depends on the settings & graphics quality you're alright with. I'm pretty sure it's enough to play everything on the market still.
>>729353657>In a way, their scheme sort of works because jeets actually spend that kind of money on their LED reddit rigsThis is some of the most delusional cope I have ever heard in my life
>>729350053>A weaker card with more VRAM is preferrable to a more powerful card with less.So a 5060Ti 16GB would be a wiser investment than a 5070?
>>729374029YOU DIE TODAY CARLOS
I don't care about graphics. My 6GB has served me well over the years.
There isn't a single game worth playing that needs more than 4GB.
>>729374181>The first STALKER game on X Ray was so much more impressive for the timeI still remember first time i went to Agroprom. Shit was mindblowing.
>>729350053>just buy the 3060 bro it has 12gb...dont mind the fact that it has not the specs to actually support that extra ram ok
>>729374215Plus the physics are shitty and environmental destruction is still rare
>>729350380How tf do those textures require more than 4gb of vram? This shit is inexcusable. And you people keep buying into it.
>>729376629Yeah kinda in a longer span of time, vram is the limiting factor with anything to do with AI since games are optimized by upscaling and frame gen now those models hog vram and to top it off the raytracing in modern games also need even more. At face value a 5070 will preform better in head to head rasterization. But what good is it if every game is using 14gb of vram in 1440p?
>>729376629No. I'm not sure how it works, but a weaker GPU doesn't become a powerhouse when you double its VRAM. A GPU needs to have the raw power to use all that VRAM effectively, which the 5070 does, but the 5070 doesn't ship with 16GB, so idk.I'm pretty sure the 5060ti 16GB was designed purely for local AI gen.
>>729349950It's more than enough to play every game worth playing since those were made pre 2020.
>>729377185You don't have a choice if you want to play a game that was made in this decade
>>729377428You mean a Unreal Slop 5 unoptimized piece of trash made in this decade.
>>7293499741440p is the new standard.
>>729377640Yeah and it's not going to get better. You either have to deal with it or find a new hobby.
>>729378263But there are games being made that don't use it, you just will have to avoid UE5 games.
>>729376629no. i guarantee you by the time games start saturating a 5060ti 16gb frame buffer at 1080p, it was time to upgrade years ago anyway.
My 10GB 3080 still plays everything at high at 1440p 60fps minimum. This VRAM shit is a psyop and you're all retarded.
>>729349974Excuse me? What the fuck did you just say? Yes, I do. I pay the extra money to ensure I can, too. Go fuck yourself faggot prick.
>>729350380Damn... Those are some Dreamcast-tier textures...
>>729350585>highest with 64 by now?Because you're buying video game hardware intended to run video games and no video game in existence would make any use whatsoever of 64GB VRAM and by the time they do, the GPU core would be so outdated in terms of performance as to be useless.
>>729349974I buy PS5
>>729362039>Crysis would run fineI mean "fine" sure. I remember having 2 of those cards in SLI when Crysis came out and I was getting like 45FPS at 1280x1024 with almost maxed settings. That's "fine" I guess, sure.
>>729349950FFS nigger, kys already
>>729364101No, PC is the high-end option for gaming. It also takes some slight level of thought, for example if you have only 8GB VRAM then don't use the optional 100GB 4k texture pack at Ultra settings and instead use the regular textures at a lower setting.
In a world where devs know how to optimize their games, even 4GB is enough
>>729384120we don't live in that world
>>729350380>4k resolution on a 8GB card>placebo textures on an 8GB cardThis is peak retard.You could have better looking textures on a 2GB card back in the day if both the game developer and player weren't retarded.
no-coders know best
>>729374609>It's enough for Rimworld and FactorioIt's BARELY enough for Factorio with the Pyanodon mod suite loaded though. But then- that one's infamous for the ridonkulous amount of animated art assets involved, all of which are preloaded into texture atlasses and pushed into VRAM - which comes out to about 7 GB used.Except then you go into the settings and enable texture compression for an imperceptible < 1% quality loss in texture detail, and suddenly it all fits in ~3 GB.Which should give everyone here pause to think about something: How much of the VRAM issues would be instantly solveable by devs simply enabling texture compression that they never bothered to offer to end-users before?
I have 6 and can still play hames on low due to FSR. 8 is probably ok considering these technologies. I think they over hype how bad it is; YouTubers to push for more vram on low end models, and companies themselves in some clandestine ways to make you buy a higher tier model
I have a 9060xt 16GB. VRAM is fine but its weak sometimes in 4k. Definitely usable tho and I lile the low power consumption keeping my PC cool. If you dont have an AC and live in a warm room in summer then you will appreciate the lower power gpus.
>>729391745>replace 1060 with 9060 in secondary rig>power usage stays the sameNeat.
Do I replace my 970 with a 5060
>>729349950Most women day 5 is enough, but we all know it's 8
>>729349950Need very little RAM to run AI frames.
>>729394136get the 16gb ti variant or get a 9060 16gb instead
>>729376629Anyone saying a 5060 Ti 16GB will last longer than a 5070 is an absolute fucking retard guzzling jewtuber grfiter cum, 5060 Ti will choke on anything that needs 12+ GB of vram due to lack of raw processing power.
>>729394658No.
>>729349950im yet to see a game that needs 12gb of my 6700xt on 2560x1440
>>729395418stick to your 970 then
for 1080p usually it is finefor 1440p you need 12gbif you play in 4k you arent buying 8gb cards anyway
