>three niggas in a row>the stoic main character (he is so cool!)>the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))>the comedic relief character (gay, fat, black or all of these)Why are all jRPGs like this?
>>729366275But none of these things are even in FF7. Cloud isn't even a stoic cool lead.
>Why are all jRPGs like this?They're not
>>729366434>Cloud isn't even a stoic cool leadtell that to the guys that made the remake
>>729366507>ff7 (Cloud, Tifa, Barret)>ff8 (Squall, Rinoa Zell)>lunar (Alex, Luna, Ramus)>SMT3 (friend group - although they don't fight with you)>Grandia (little girl counts as gay)I will concede that sometimes it isn't a childhood friend but a random pair of tits that agrees with you.
It's the perfect way to appeal to the jrpgs target audience: the obese, lonely losers
>>729366507Name a popular JRPG that doesn't fit into this category.
>>729366969xenosaga
>>729366969All nu-Persona disingenuous faggot.
Vivi and Yuna are great characters
>>729366275Why did VIII-X not feature pincer attacks?
>>729366517Remake has a lot of problems. This isn't one of them. Cloud presents himself as a stoic badass and it works... in the context of combat. Any time he has to leave the context for some reason, he immediately fumbles into a hapless dork that doesn't know what to do with himself. Like when meeting Madam M. Or when forced to do since D&C and Junon and he struggles with commanding troops because he's never been in a command position before and Tifa and Aerith need to help him. Or when Yuffie calls him out for fantasizing about multiple Tifas. Or when Tifa and Aerith ask him to buy a Chocobo. Badass Cloud never lasts for very long which, surprise, is also how he's presented in OG
>>729367078>YunaHaven't played 9 yet, it's on my bucket list. But I can babble for an hour on why Yuna was a fucking fantastic character
>>729366757See >>729367063
>>729366969Trails in the SkyThe "the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))" is actually the main character while the "stoic (he is so cool)" isn't the main character
>>729367063This one goes for the other jrpg trope of the young twink boy main villain
>>729366757>little girl counts as gayto elaborate:>shrill>annoying>shits itself>cannot be fucked without social repercussionsyeah it's a gay character alright?
>>72936720310 is my favorite overall but i think 9 might have the best cast of characters and interactions. The only one i didn't care for was Amarant
>>729366275
>>729366969Xenogears
>>729366275Kinda lame bait, but is true that the faggots who grew up with that type of game are now the bitch adults that cry about anything that deviates from their nostalgia based preferences.
>>729366969FF6
>>729367365Zidane uses daggers tho?
>>729366275>(gay, fat, black or all of these)Huh, just like OP!
>>729366275Cloud is cool
>>729366969E33
>>72936729410 is a curious case where I love the feel of that game. And I think it makes it's point more cohesively than 7 but 7 always remains my favorite overall. I should replay both games to try and put my feelings into words. But after I finish Tactics. And then play 9.
>>729367158>Any time he has to leave the context for some reason, he immediately fumbles into a hapless dork that doesn't know what to do with himself.Yeah, so obese neet losers can identify with him better.It's like a bait and switch or hook, line and sinker situation.You know how the fattest, most lazy person is always like "Yeah but if things were x and y then I'd be shining! Then I'd be the mover and shaker - yeah that's how it would be! It wouldn't have been like that if I had been there!!" etcThe stoic portion of clouds character is basically the wish fulfillment, wheras the embarrassing dorky awkward portion is the one where those guys are supposed to go "omg he's literally me!!!"It's a very finely calculated writing trick to lure in the biggest fucking losers. The japs have this down so well cause their marketing has iterated through this a thousand times by now.But yes of course, the trope itself should rather be>"he is stoic and cool (but actually he is awkward and adorkable... like you! :^))
>>729367518Whenever I think about replaying 10, I'm reminded of how bullshit the side missions (especially the Ultimate Weapons ones) are, and all my enthusiasm instantly vanishes...
>>729366969Grandia 1
>>729367365Does no one actually remember FF7 anymore
>>729367365There should be a yuffie row for selphie, and rikku (don't know enough about ff9 characters)And put lulu in place of rikku for the sexy row
>>729367572Lot of words to just say that you're wrong. Too bad I'm not reading em
>>729367678that's okay, I accept your concessionI just wish you'd accept better writing
>>729366969Yakuza 7
>>729367602Meh, the only tedious one is Wakka's because he's the one you want for Penance. And Blitzball, while initially fun and overall easy, just becomes a slog after a while.Crafted weapons can be strong as fuck too.
>>729367807Reddit spacing means your post is dogshit not worth reading, sorry, not sorry
>>729367815am i supposed to start with 1 or 0
>>729366969>Most Final Fantasy gamesFF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 15>Chrono TriggerStarting trio is the stoic main character and his 2 childhood girl friends.>Every Atelier gameQuirky girl and randos she befriends>Dragon Quest 1 and 2First game you are solo, and the second one you pick up your distant relatives.>Octopath Traveler8 unrelated randos>PersonaStoic MC and classmates to befriend/fuck>PokemonStoic MC and cute monster pals.>YakuzaQuirky Jap gangster>Hyperdimension NeptuniaQuirky girl and quirky girl friends>Xenoblade Chronicles 2 A shota and his sword wivesMaybe you should play more games?
>>729366969xenoblade 2xenoblade Xxenoblade 3xenoblade torna the golden countryxenoblade future redeemed
>>729367939If you intend to play Kiwami 1 & 2 in place of the original PS2 versions for 1 & 2, start with 0. The remakes assume you played 0 before them.
>>729367659fuck no
>>729367898if you hate reddit so much, why do you defend jrpgs with reddit writing?
>>729368031>>PersonaYour first two classmates in each game (Yukari/Chie/Ann + Stupei/Yosuke/Ryuji) are absolutely meant to be those two archetypes.
>tvtropes thread
>>729366969FFVI
>>729367659No, but "The Grinch" got me good so I give the image a pass.
>>729366275Extremely bad bait/v/ doesn't play video games
>>729367063>>729367382>>729368034>Xenosaga>Xenogears>Xenoblades 2-3Interesting that Xenoblade 1 is the only Xeno game that fits OP's description to a tee>shulk going on an edgy revenge fantasy for 75% of the game>fiora being the sexy childhood friend love interest>reyn being the reliable muscle-brained idiot which is sometimes played for laughs
>>729366275kino, any rpg that deviates from this might as well not have dialogue or cutscenes
>>729367365It was sephiroth though
This game unironically has one of the best video game casts to date
>>729366275Cast them in the movie
>>729367365FF4 would be:>Cecil>Golbez>Rosa>Cid/Tellah>Kain>Rydia>Zemus
>>729366275>the stoic main character (he is so cool!)Zidane isn't stoic>the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))Garnet never met the guy before>the comedic relief character (gay, fat, black or all of these) Steiner gets best girl and isn't fat or black.