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>three niggas in a row
>the stoic main character (he is so cool!)
>the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))
>the comedic relief character (gay, fat, black or all of these)


Why are all jRPGs like this?
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>>729366275
But none of these things are even in FF7. Cloud isn't even a stoic cool lead.
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>Why are all jRPGs like this?
They're not
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>>729366434
>Cloud isn't even a stoic cool lead

tell that to the guys that made the remake
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>>729366507
>ff7 (Cloud, Tifa, Barret)
>ff8 (Squall, Rinoa Zell)
>lunar (Alex, Luna, Ramus)
>SMT3 (friend group - although they don't fight with you)
>Grandia (little girl counts as gay)

I will concede that sometimes it isn't a childhood friend but a random pair of tits that agrees with you.
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It's the perfect way to appeal to the jrpgs target audience: the obese, lonely losers
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>>729366507
Name a popular JRPG that doesn't fit into this category.
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>>729366969
xenosaga
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>>729366969
All nu-Persona disingenuous faggot.
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Vivi and Yuna are great characters
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>>729366275
Why did VIII-X not feature pincer attacks?
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>>729366517
Remake has a lot of problems. This isn't one of them. Cloud presents himself as a stoic badass and it works... in the context of combat. Any time he has to leave the context for some reason, he immediately fumbles into a hapless dork that doesn't know what to do with himself. Like when meeting Madam M. Or when forced to do since D&C and Junon and he struggles with commanding troops because he's never been in a command position before and Tifa and Aerith need to help him. Or when Yuffie calls him out for fantasizing about multiple Tifas. Or when Tifa and Aerith ask him to buy a Chocobo. Badass Cloud never lasts for very long which, surprise, is also how he's presented in OG
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>>729367078
>Yuna
Haven't played 9 yet, it's on my bucket list. But I can babble for an hour on why Yuna was a fucking fantastic character
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>>729366757
See >>729367063
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>>729366969
Trails in the Sky

The "the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))" is actually the main character while the "stoic (he is so cool)" isn't the main character
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>>729367063
This one goes for the other jrpg trope of the young twink boy main villain
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>>729366757
>little girl counts as gay

to elaborate:

>shrill
>annoying
>shits itself
>cannot be fucked without social repercussions

yeah it's a gay character alright?
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>>729367203
10 is my favorite overall but i think 9 might have the best cast of characters and interactions. The only one i didn't care for was Amarant
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>>729366275
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>>729366969
Xenogears
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>>729366275
Kinda lame bait, but is true that the faggots who grew up with that type of game are now the bitch adults that cry about anything that deviates from their nostalgia based preferences.
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>>729366969
FF6
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>>729367365
Zidane uses daggers tho?
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>>729366275
>(gay, fat, black or all of these)
Huh, just like OP!
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>>729366275
Cloud is cool
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>>729366969
E33
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>>729367294
10 is a curious case where I love the feel of that game. And I think it makes it's point more cohesively than 7 but 7 always remains my favorite overall. I should replay both games to try and put my feelings into words. But after I finish Tactics. And then play 9.
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>>729367158
>Any time he has to leave the context for some reason, he immediately fumbles into a hapless dork that doesn't know what to do with himself.

Yeah, so obese neet losers can identify with him better.
It's like a bait and switch or hook, line and sinker situation.

You know how the fattest, most lazy person is always like "Yeah but if things were x and y then I'd be shining! Then I'd be the mover and shaker - yeah that's how it would be! It wouldn't have been like that if I had been there!!" etc

The stoic portion of clouds character is basically the wish fulfillment, wheras the embarrassing dorky awkward portion is the one where those guys are supposed to go "omg he's literally me!!!"

It's a very finely calculated writing trick to lure in the biggest fucking losers. The japs have this down so well cause their marketing has iterated through this a thousand times by now.

But yes of course, the trope itself should rather be
>"he is stoic and cool (but actually he is awkward and adorkable... like you! :^))
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>>729367518
Whenever I think about replaying 10, I'm reminded of how bullshit the side missions (especially the Ultimate Weapons ones) are, and all my enthusiasm instantly vanishes...
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>>729366969
Grandia 1
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>>729367365
Does no one actually remember FF7 anymore
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>>729367365
There should be a yuffie row for selphie, and rikku (don't know enough about ff9 characters)
And put lulu in place of rikku for the sexy row
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>>729367572
Lot of words to just say that you're wrong. Too bad I'm not reading em
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>>729367678
that's okay, I accept your concession
I just wish you'd accept better writing
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>>729366969
Yakuza 7
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>>729367602
Meh, the only tedious one is Wakka's because he's the one you want for Penance. And Blitzball, while initially fun and overall easy, just becomes a slog after a while.
Crafted weapons can be strong as fuck too.
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>>729367807
Reddit spacing means your post is dogshit not worth reading, sorry, not sorry
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>>729367815
am i supposed to start with 1 or 0
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>>729366969
>Most Final Fantasy games
FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 15
>Chrono Trigger
Starting trio is the stoic main character and his 2 childhood girl friends.
>Every Atelier game
Quirky girl and randos she befriends
>Dragon Quest 1 and 2
First game you are solo, and the second one you pick up your distant relatives.
>Octopath Traveler
8 unrelated randos
>Persona
Stoic MC and classmates to befriend/fuck
>Pokemon
Stoic MC and cute monster pals.
>Yakuza
Quirky Jap gangster
>Hyperdimension Neptunia
Quirky girl and quirky girl friends
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2
A shota and his sword wives

Maybe you should play more games?
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>>729366969
xenoblade 2
xenoblade X
xenoblade 3
xenoblade torna the golden country
xenoblade future redeemed
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>>729367939
If you intend to play Kiwami 1 & 2 in place of the original PS2 versions for 1 & 2, start with 0. The remakes assume you played 0 before them.
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>>729367659
fuck no
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>>729367898
if you hate reddit so much, why do you defend jrpgs with reddit writing?
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>>729368031
>>Persona
Your first two classmates in each game (Yukari/Chie/Ann + Stupei/Yosuke/Ryuji) are absolutely meant to be those two archetypes.
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>tvtropes thread
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>>729366969
FFVI
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>>729367659
No, but "The Grinch" got me good so I give the image a pass.
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>>729366275
Extremely bad bait
/v/ doesn't play video games
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>>729367063
>>729367382
>>729368034
>Xenosaga
>Xenogears
>Xenoblades 2-3
Interesting that Xenoblade 1 is the only Xeno game that fits OP's description to a tee

>shulk going on an edgy revenge fantasy for 75% of the game
>fiora being the sexy childhood friend love interest
>reyn being the reliable muscle-brained idiot which is sometimes played for laughs
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>>729366275
kino, any rpg that deviates from this might as well not have dialogue or cutscenes
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>>729367365
It was sephiroth though
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This game unironically has one of the best video game casts to date
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>>729366275
Cast them in the movie
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>>729367365
FF4 would be:
>Cecil
>Golbez
>Rosa
>Cid/Tellah
>Kain
>Rydia
>Zemus
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>>729366275
>the stoic main character (he is so cool!)
Zidane isn't stoic
>the sexy childhood friend and/or stepsister that agrees with everything you say (not blood related btw ;^))
Garnet never met the guy before
>the comedic relief character (gay, fat, black or all of these)
Steiner gets best girl and isn't fat or black.



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