it wont have visual artifacts like IPS glow, TN viewing angles, or VA black smearing they said.>get a monitor with visible gray banding on a new monitornice OLEDs saaar, very nice.Please do research before you buy.
>>729366786Screensaver, retard.
>>729366929>brand new monitor can't display dark gray color without banding>uhhhhh saar use screensaver, retarded bloody benchooodit's amazing what OLED shills will defend these days. how this shit is acceptable is beyond me.
>>729366786You bought one of the new tandem OLEDs, right? They all seem to have extreme issues with shitty ass color banding, despite being touted as "THE FUTURE OF OLED". It's pretty sad to see how all the companies felt that it was okay to manufacture and ship these monitors despite the vast majority of them having these issues.
I've had my LG OLED for 3-4 years and never had an issue. Then again, I'm also not retarded, so that's not something we have in common, maybe that's where it all went wrong for you.
>>729367103>They all seem to have extreme issues with shitty ass color banding, despite being touted as "THE FUTURE OF OLED"the future of OLED is looking like it has years of burn in straight from the factory. Revolutionary indeed.
>>729366786>>729367018lcd looks like this from day one poorfagOnly crt has perfect uniformity pretty muchand even that is usually not the case
>>729367240>retard who can't read posts in the thread calls other people retard
>>729367103>It's pretty sad to see how all the companies felt that it was okay to manufacture and ship these monitors despite the vast majority of them having these issues.they know people will eat up the slop. Just have some shill post about how its amazing, make some clickbait screenshots that show any other previous monitor as terrible because you edited it in photoshop and bam, easy sell.its hilarious to see them use this not only with OLED vs LCD but also with NEW oled VS old OLED
>>729367297>lcd looks like this from day one poorfagI've never had an LCD have MASSIVE banding issues, even on old ones.
>>729366786Is that a WOLED? Big yikes.
>>729367297You've never seen an LCD. What the fuck.
>>729367297oledfags have to lie to defend oleds
>>729366786>>729367018That is exactly what I would expect from OLED displays in 2026.
>>729367648>>729367675nothing new, their whole marketing shtic, is to take images of monitors with a camera and overblowing the exposure so the LCD darks are gray compared to the OLED.They actually hope nobody can think or notice that viewing this image on a LCD, and seeing the OLED darks on a LCD should be a red flag as to what an LCD actually looks like, and not how marketing material tries to present it.>>729367846what the fuck is that image
MiniLED chads can't stop winning.
>>729367954>what the fuck is that imageSomeone posted this marketing material some time ago so I made it more accurate.I don't know that LED displays look like so someone else can fix that side.
>>729367985It's a fucking shame that OLED won over the consumer market instead of miniLED. If R&D teams focused on miniLEDs as much as they have done on OLED, we could probably have monitors that would be near-perfect. No shitty issues with text fringing, no black crush, no color banding, no burn-in and image retention, no VRR flicker, no problems with brightness, etc. etc.
OLED is the best when it comes to mininal input latency, that's the sole reason one should look for when purchasing TV for your vidya. Most game genres depend on good input latency
>>729368137but, there is one downside to all of what you said.The monitors wouldn't burn in.So customers wouldn't have to replace their monitors as often.That is bad for the monitor makers. So they choose the product that wears itself down and you get return customers....assuming you don't have competition.
>>729368136>I don't know that LED displays look like so someone else can fix that side.apparently it looks like a 2025 OLED if you believe this image here >>729367368
Yes get a qd OLED instead and use it in a dark room
What exactly is a good monitor purchase right now? Are OLEDs still only good in the $800+ range with a matte finish? Is it all still too much of an "early adopter's" fee and should I just wait a few more years?
>>729366786I, too, purchased an OLED just to stare at grey test patterns all day
>>729369064>right nowPretty much every single monitor right now has 1-2 issues, so it's all about whether or not you can accept those issues and live with them. I'd wait for all the new monitors that will be announced and shown at CES in January and then see if those will be worth waiting for throughout 2026.
>>729369148>monitor can't even display something as simple as a single color on the screen>goy why do you want this? You dont need this!>monitor that is supposed to be good at displaying dark scenes, where dark gray is more likely to be a thing>goy why do you need dark grays, you dont need them, monitor is good as ishonestly insane how OLED shills marketing works.
>>729369297>grey>single color*incomprehensible thirdie seethe intensifies*
>>729369148Somehow this technology escaped the RnD departments where no condition is real-world.I don't know, man. Maybe you really should inject some lead supplements.
>>729369505>gray is not a single colorrajeesh, you okay? your monitor should be able to display a solid single color
>>729366786OLED is for TVs, not monitors
>>729369652Nintendo, Valve and Sony all put OLED on their handheld gaming systems.
>>729366786>Settings>Pixel refresh>Wait a few minutes>Oh it's goneYawn
>>729370421>it's gone
>>729367429I myself had a benq 170hz IPS monitor that had the worst banding I've ever seen. Drop shadows on windows made it so I was looking at an anti-gradient. Anything grey was just horrid.I thought "well that's because it's on 6 bit or something" turns out no, it was just that panel and people were fucking coping constantly about it. Ended up returning it and buying a Philips IPS monitor instead with none of those banding issues.Which now is sitting next to my OLED monitor, and I barely use it. Oh well.
>>729370523Bro it's been 2 minutes. Actually do it
>>729370581>he thinks he is the first big ideas man that though of telling the monitor to burn in the rest of the pixels to "refresh" the screenthat image is literally what it looks like after using the thing. as you can see it didn't go away. this is permanent.
>>729366786How many times do I have to tell you, take a MiniLED, MiniLED.OLED for gaming is a meme.
>>729370556>I thought "well that's because it's on 6 bit or something" turns out no, it was just that panel and people were fucking coping constantly about it.sad to see the exact same shit happening with OLEDs. Or VAs.... Or any monitor shortcomings really.
>>729370678give me a nice miniled then? Requirement: NOT VA, because VA is utter garbage for gaming.
>>729366786No see the problem is you got a CHEAP OLED. You need one of the EXPENSIVE ones if you don't want problems.
>>729370649I don't know what monitor you have. Maybe in yours it doesn't. I have a 271QPX and I do the panel protect thing manually if this happens. Though it's not as intense as in your case. If it's brand new and that doesn't work at all just return it. I don't buy the thing about "you have to use the monitor for a while and eventually it gets better" because I don't remember it having anything like this.
I'm so glad I'm lucky and the monitor I bought was an IPS display with exceptional color accuracy that can just put out whatever color it needs to without shitting itself and shimmering all over the place.I say I'm 'lucky', because I've previously bought 2 IPS displays that had horrible, utterly warped colors and completely washed out darks and am used to being burned by them being crap like that. It's so hard to find a good way to just test displays with stuff you know well so you can actually compare their qualities.
>>729370692What I don't understand is why MiniLED shortcomings are mostly always ignored. I see people constantly moaning about OLED shilling but it's like nobody ever thinks there's a benefit to shitting on OLED in order to sell MiniLED, what's up with that?
>>729371130>What I don't understand is why MiniLED shortcomings are mostly always ignoredSuch as?
>>729366786>>729367018>Shows OLED>Wont show you the manufacturer is.I can guess what panel you have given how many of these fuckers I had to look at, but tell me, just curious.Who made it?
>>729371130>I see people constantly moaning about OLED shillingbecause the shilling is constant and intense, and very dishonest about it's downsides.>but it's like nobody ever thinks there's a benefit to shitting on OLED in order to sell MiniLED, what's up with that?I don't see any miniled shilling. In fact the only miniled i've seen mentioned at some point was a VA miniled and it's downside was that it was a VA. Not that it was a miniled.>>729371191blooming when trying to display small bright things on a dark background, such as stars for example.
>>729371194>I can guess what panel you have given how many of these fuckers I had to look at, Then say it first if you are so confident.
>>729371261>blooming when trying to display small bright things on a dark background, such as stars for example.That can be mitigated with enough dimming zones. Blooming barely exists on high-end miniLED. Is that the only downside?
>>729371317thanks for proving ops is a faggot.
>>729371317Don't be a faggot. I wanna know too so I can avoid your mistakes
if your favorite's game HUD isn't burnt into your screen, you're a turbo casual faggot
>>729371194>>729371394LG
>>729371261>I don't see any miniled shilling.You haven't been in enough of these threads I'm afraidIt's dishonest to say there's no burn in on newer OLEDs or that 400 nits is more than enough for HDR, in the same way that is dishonest to say that after a few months (or 2 years even, I will go that far) these displays get burn in with normal usage (I mean as in keep that fucking taskbar up there and browse 4chan all you want). And that's a claim I never ever get tired of reading. Or that text fringing is jarring in every monitor or that the screen is completely unusable with a normal level of external lighting on QD-OLEDs, or that VRR is always unusable because there's so much brightness flicker at any framerates.
>>729368137it's nvidia fault for getting rid of g sync ultimate modulespg32uqx is the best but too expensive.
kek, why are you even arguing with Indian poorfags? Let them have inferior products and live their inferior lives and move on.
>>729371194>>729371317>>729371393>>729371394Not OP or the guy claiming to be able to guess it. But it's on all the new tandem OLED monitors as I wrote here >>729367103So the monitors would be stuff like ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQWMG, GIGABYTE MO27Q28G, ASUS ROG Swift PG27AQWP-W, LG 27GX700A-B, etc.
>>729371828I am confused, we were talking about minileds downsides and then you list a bunch of OLED downsides? What?
>>729371915All of your companies you listed, get their panels from the same exact manufacturer.Which is why they asked who made it, you know it all.
>>729372015>All of your companies you listed, get their panels from the same exact manufacturer.then whats the point in asking?>Which is why they asked who made itBu....what? WHAT? you know who made it then. since you said they all use the same manufacturer.
>>729371991My point is I'm listing shit people say that isn't all that true.
>>729372092>talk about miniled shilling>no miniled shilling>actually there is lot of miniled shilling>proceeds to list only OLED downsides>oh I'm doing it because it's not true.....so let me get this straight, miniled shilling is pointing out flaws OLED has that are downplayed.Are you insane?It's like me pointing out people mention TNs poor viewing angles and claim that is miniled shilling.Fuck off.
>>729371850G-Sync got depreciated by HDMI 2.1 VRR. My montior actually works better with VRR than with G-Sync. It was a neat feature like 15 years ago when it was new, but now it's gotten rolled into the VESA standards and there's really no need anymore.
>>729372248>VRRah yes, flicker, how enjoyable.no thanks
>>729372015>All of your companies you listed, get their panels from the same exact manufacturer.Well yeah. I think like 80-90% of the monitors that come to the west have panels from the same 2-3 manufacturers when it comes to OLED. I was just mentioning the exact monitors because most people aren't going to know that they get their panels from the same places.
>>729372078>Whats the point in asking.Because depending on what the monitor is, when it was made, it could be any number of different fabs, it could have been LG themselves, or BOE, or even Emagin.>Bu....what? WHAT? you know who made it then.Because they dont keep the same fab contract depending on the unit and year, which is why it was important info to ask.Does that help answer you fucking retarded know it all? Or should I come to your home and draw pretty pictures on your wall so you understand better?
>>729372308How come I don't see it?
>>729372216Oh they're downplayed?What, they burn in now within one week? Are you an actual retard?
>>729372323>Does that help answer you fucking retarded know it all?You are now arguing with someone else that's not even me, and calling him the same thing as you called me. You are truly sperging out.
>>729372349dunno, VRR flicker isn't guaranteed on every single monitor, just most of them. Something I wish I knew before I got a monitor for sync reasons. Because the flicker makes it unusable.In essence if a monitor advertises VRR but it flickers, it's unusable and it's not really a feature.
>>729372454Show me where you deserve to not be called retarded then?
I will say as the proud owner of a G1 that there are some downsides and grey banding is one of them. Thing is there are plenty of color uniformity issues with LCD, too and given all of OLED's other benefits + the limited scope of this problem (only appears in muted dark grey settings in most common real world settings) it isn't that much of an issue in practice.
>>729372471Most of them? How come all the people in my group don't have it? Flicker sounds like some dumb YT shit, and I' think you'd be more at home over there.
>>729366786Yeah, it's unfortunate, but thankfully it's not as noticeable in real life as it looks on camera. I’m using an lg tv panel (woled), which is about as bad as it gets when it comes to uniformity. qd-oleds seem less prone to this issue, maybe because all their leds are blue, idk.Every panel type has its own problems, so you just have to get used to it, like ips users putting up with poor viewing angles and brightness uniformity, or va users dealing with heavy overshoot on top of that.You can try adjusting the overall contrast and brightness of the image, either brighter or darker, to reduce the effect. And don't listen to people who say you should run that pixel refresher, actually, if you leave it alone for a while, it tends to become less noticeable. If we're talking about this specific issue.
>>729372394No, not within one week. Within 6 months assuming you just use it like an LCD monitor.Couple of years if you baby it.The fact of the matter is I can get an LCD, don't have to baby it, don't have to change how and when I use it. And it lasts like 10+ years.With how OLEDs want to be treated, they are asking to be treated like movie only monitors.You could use it as a gaming monitor, the same way you could use VA as a gaming monitor.On VAs you get dark smearing everywhere. On oled you get hud burn ins.>>729372571>(only appears in muted dark grey settingsanything dark. The colors on dark settings also get banding, not just grey. it's just it's most easily noticable in gray.
>>729372543You are fighting ghosts, schizo. I am the guy you were initially mad at, but you are now schizoing out on other people, is what I am telling you.
>>729372471VRR only doesn't flicker on IPS.VRR can be used in different panels given certain limitations that well, don't make the feature as useful.If you have ~10fps fluctuations at +200fps you're not going to have flicker. If you have your game somehow drop a lot of fucking frames really quickly it's either because 1. It's on a loading screen, 2. It's absurdly badly optimized, like Dragon's Dogma 2 or 3. you need to get something checked because the game is barely playable anyways with VRR even if there was no flicker. You could say "if you have stable framerates you don't need VRR" but if you had steady 132fps you'll still appreciate the monitor not having some weird judder effect when slowly moving a camera or some extra latency from vsync.
>>729372649>Most of them? How come all the people in my group don't have it?You can literally google "VRR flicker" and see how many people have issues. It's one of the most prominent issues with OLEDs, along with text fringing and black crushing.
>>729372649>Most of them?Yep. Getting a monitor with no VRR flicker is more of an exception than not.>How come all the people in my group don't have it?I don't know what monitor they have. What and how they play, and how perceptive your friends are or arent.>Flicker sounds like some dumb YT shit,the fuck are you saying? That you don't like the word, or the idea of it?It's a real world testable thing, go to Rtings for example and check that section.
>>729372743Show me, where you deserve to not be called retarded. This is now the second time I have asked this of you.
>>729372704>Yeah, it's unfortunate, but thankfully it's not as noticeable in real life as it looks on camera.then we can use LCD instead of OLEDs then? >Every panel type has its own problems, so you just have to get used to it, like ips users putting up with poor viewing anglesWhat the fuck are you talking about IPS has one of the best viewing angles of all LCD technologies.> and brightness uniformity, that's not what IPS has issue with, it's glow.>va users dealing with heavy overshoot on top of that.it's not overshoot. It's dark pixel transitions, or dark pixels smearing.
>>729372861You are severely mentally ill.
>>729372953This is the third time.Show me, where you deserve to have any respect what so ever and not be called a retard? Its not about being mentally ill, or a schizo, its the fact that I am an anonymous person on the internet telling you that beyond this place, nobody respects one word you say.I am telling you to justify your right to speak in any way shape or form on a subject matter you clearly have zero experience or intelligence in and you wont do it.You wanted my attention, you got it, now, justify my attention you swine.
>>729372789>You could say "if you have stable framerates you don't need VRR" but if you had steady 132fps you'll still appreciate the monitor not having some weird judder effect when slowly moving a camera or some extra latency from vsync.personally I think using high refresh with no VRR is the way to go.VRR is only needed for low Hz. So if you have sub 100hz monitor, then VRR is more important on that. than on a 144hz or above.
>>729372817>You can literally google "VRR flicker" and see how many people have issues. It's one of the most prominent issues with OLEDs, along with text fringing and black crushing.more miniled shilling I see
>>729373037>people asked which monitors had the issue that OP was talking about>I listed the exact monitors where the vast majority of them have this issue>you came in with "ACKSHUALLY, THEY ARE ALL PRODUCED THE SAME PLACE SO YOU ARE RETARDED"Can you explain how YOU are not the retard here?
>>729372818>>729372817Home come MiniLEDs look like shit in the store? Is the store shilling for OLED?
>>729373137>Makes up a argument inside his head to justify statement.>None of this was actually done.Thank you very much for proving exactly what this is.That will be another large donation to DEI pushing companies i and outsourcing of technology in your honor.I finally found where to hurt you fuckers the absolute most, and its not with mean comments, its by throwing my vast wealth behind destroying your hobbies.
>>729373258>DEIHoly fuck, you are an actual legit schizo.
>>729372932>then we can use LCD instead of OLEDs then?Nah, I mean, sure, for some cases using an lcd is fine, but for my personal use in free time I won't ever use lcd anymore. These panels are simply too slow and can't display hdr, so I don't care at all about ips, lol.
>>729372723>No, not within one week. Within 6 months assuming you just use it like an LCD monitor.I'll tell you what I do with my current QD-OLED for about ~10 hours a day and have done for about 1.5 years (I don't know maybe in 5-6 months it'll suddenly just develop really bad intense burn in that completely makes it unusable all of a sudden, surely):>Web browsing>Web browsing>Watch a 20 minute video maybe>Photo editing>More web browsingI play games once a week or so. I'm not doing this thing where I turn off the monitor when I stop playing and switch to my IPS on the corner. I don't make everything pitch black and have the taskbar autohide. I'm not like that Plasma whatever guy on youtube that keeps using the eye raping high contrast mode. If I had to give up on light colors I'd ditch this shit right away. Do I have to keep a log and do the hardware unboxing test to prove that what you just said does at the very least not apply to all OLEDs and to say otherwise would be actually, you know, dishonest bullshit being forcefully parroted into the ground?
>>729373305Keep going and ill double it by throwing my weight behind moving production of OLEDS to India.
7500 hours on OLED
>>729373258wow an actual schizobot
>>729367985Just bought one of these, what am I in for?
>>729373467Doubled.
>>729373431show dark gray
>>729373586it's literally the OLED burn in test image. We both know that no shade of grey I choose will be good enough for you , so you create an image of grey you want displayed and I'll do it
>>729373079I'd believe you if I didn't test this out with some game running between 130 and 140fps on a 165hz monitor and came to the conclusion that unless I was moving my camera very fast or leaving the screen steady, I would notice something fairly jarring. And sure enough I had somewhat of a blind test going at times, because I had this situation more than once where the nvidia panel thought it funny to disable VRR maybe after an update or something I wasn't aware of, and noticing "hey, this shit's running really well, but it feels oddly unsmooth" only to find out that VRR wasn't enabled.Of course not everyone has this problem, maybe just lock the framerate to something lower. But it's something still desirable (not needed) on higher refresh rates. The higher the framerate being less noticeable doesn't mean it isn't, specially if you're a shitter like me and like to play some games with a controller (where the sluggish analog stick camera movement makes it a lot more apparent than the mouse does, hence why nobody gives a fuck about any type of sync when playing CS:2 or whatever).
>>729372817It's a prominent issue with most displays, not just OLEDs. VA is absolute fucking garbage with it. OLED has this annoying brightness flickering. The only type of display I've seen where you can have constant switching between 60hz and 165hz and not have an ounce of flickering is IPS. But IPS fucking sucks cock at lower refresh rates.
>>729373731>it's literally the OLED burn in test image.That doesn't show dark grey, the thing that shows OPs image very well.So the testing literally avoids the things that would help test it better? Sounds very scummy.>We both know that no shade of grey I choose will be good enough for you15% gray
damn that sucks OP. Should have go with TN panels, they are great and cheap
>>729373941>And sure enough I had somewhat of a blind test going at times, because I had this situation more than once where the nvidia panel thought it funny to disable VRR maybe after an update or something I wasn't aware of, and noticing "hey, this shit's running really well, but it feels oddly unsmooth" only to find out that VRR wasn't enabled.that's not because VRR is disabled, it's because you have vsync enabled to go with VRR, which makes the game run like shit without VRR as it will bounce between different vsync locks.So no, this isn't proof, unless you never use V-sync(which you are supposed to with VRR)
>>729367429>>729367648>>729367954backlight bleed etcSeeing even new lcd monitors in electronics store makes me cringewho is buying that shit>>729367675I currently use a 1440p CRT Monitor.But if that ever fails me I certainly I will buy an OLED.I have friends who use OLED Monitors, they look fantastic (outside of motion)If you have seen a calibrated OLED you will never buy an LCD
So what's the best monitor to buy? Am I stupid for having an LG ultrawide?
>>729374384>If you have seen a calibrated OLED you will never buy an LCDlike I said, oledfags just have to lie. I have an lg c4 and it's not even close to what shills say it is
>>729374424Wait for 2026 monitors. People are saying that text fringing might be fixed on new panels coming that are pure RGB instead of RGWB. So that's at least one HUGE downside that all OLEDs suffer from that might be fixed.
>>729366786OP is an LCD shill. Faggot. Either that, or a nigger who can't take care of his own shit.
>>729374532>RGB instead of RGWBI bought and OLED tv this year and it has RGB (S90F 65" panel only has this). Panel is called QDOLED, rgwb are classic WOLED's. I might be wrong tho
>>729373586Please post an image with the exact gray tone you want me to test. I bought a WOLED just this week.
>>729374510Lg c4 (other lg tvs as well probably) looks massively better after white balance calibration.
>>729374749LG just announced pure RGB OLED technology. Three vertical stripes. No white subpixel, no weird share like QD-OLED.The catch? The brightness will be much dimmer.
>>729374652>or a nigger who can't take care of his own shit.Did you miss the part where he said it's a brand new monitor?
>>729374510Lets see your C4 then.You wont post a pic cause you dont have itI can post pics of my CRT cause I have it
>>729374818oh, cool. Good to know since my mother's TV (philips) is starting to shit itself, I can see a more dim line where the part of backlight is). I will check this if C6 panels will have it
>>729375008C6 will probably be WOLED. I believe the RGB screens will be 4K monitors only for now. WOLED still has more brightness, which means televisions will keep using it, for obvious reasons.
>>729375121I remember that many, many years ago there was an idea to add yellow subpixel (rgby) to the tv's. Wonder why the idea died
>>729374223It's anecdotal shit but I'm fairly sure I was explicitly not enabling vsync. I'm aware that it's often recommended to run both VRR and vsync together (and if I'm not mistaken nvidia reflex works on enabling both and limiting framerates to something under the max refresh rate). In fact I can't imagine how much worse it'd been if I enabled vsync and disabled VRR. My idea with VRR was precisely to have some form of vsync that didn't fill me with latency and despair.
>>729375323https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuattronSounds stupid.
>>729374818...why?This is actually, no bullshit, fixable by software.All Microcock has to do is to fuck with cleartype and the problem is gone. There's even patches on linux for this (freetype2 ones). It's not even the same level of intense in all displays. Some displays have the triangular layout and are a-ok. Why the fuck would you release dimmer OLEDs when everyone wants brighter ones?
>>729375507The lack of white subpixel also fixes the gray banding and dirty screen effect.
>>729375323it's a stupid idea that doesn't add anything
I'm buying a LG C5 55" next year, gonna hook it up to my computer and start gaming from the couch. Anything I should know beforehand?
>>729373431W or QD OLED?
>>729375323I believe that's from a time when manufactureres still had trouble covering the necessary color range for HDR output. Three vertical RGB stripes will always be king.
>>729374825>expecting pajeet to read before he does his daily oledshilldefenseforce for 3 rupees
>>729369825so not a monitor?
>>729375635The C5 still uses the older WOLED tech. G5 uses the new tandem technology, which is much better for text clarity and provides more brightness.
a miniled with enough dimming zones is functionally the same as an oled while having 0 of the drawbacksturning off each individual pixel is a meme, you don't need that level of autistic precision, a few thousand dimming zones is enough in practice
>>729376143If you're spreading your asshole, I can't see it.
>>729376092I am not going to be using it for any desktop purposes whatsoever, ever. I am exclusively going to be playing games and watching movies on it. So I'm not sure how much the text thing matters. The G5 does however get brighter, which is nice in case I watch stuff in a brighter environment. However it's several hundred bucks more expensive and the C5 is expensive enough as is
>>729374758here is 15% gray
>>729376150There doesn't exist a single miniled screen where local dimming looks good in SDR content, which is 99% of the content on my screen. Local dimming also adds to the input lag.
>>72937475810 percent
>>7293747585 percent
who /qm8k/ here? thank you based chink overlords
>>72937475820 percent. In theory you can easily go from 5% to 95% to see if the thing has more or less issues with dark or bright colors. But OPs image is at 15%
>>729368137Mini-LED are becoming more common, but VRR flicker is still a thing on a VA, and IPS contrast isn't as good as VA. Source: I own one of each.>>729374384>I have friends who use OLED Monitors, they look fantastic (outside of motion)OLED motion is excellent. Fuck CRTs, I prefer not getting eyestrain.
>>729376508>Mini-LED are becoming more common, but VRR flicker is still a thing on a VA, and IPS contrast isn't as good as VA. Source: I own one of each.just use IPS, and local dimming for contrast. there, fixed. Why throw in shit VA in there.
>>729376249My phone's camera is complete garbage. This looks almost 50% grey, but I used your image.This is after 24 hours of usage, 3 pixel refresh cycles.
>>729373431>>729376824Why does your 15% gray look like 50%also you phone compressed the fuck out of that image 102KB is this a joke? My dude, my phone takes 4-6MB photos.I guess I should laugh at how cameras are a lie, and how OLED shills usually make shit glow to show that LCDs suck, only this time an OLED monitor is way more bright than it should be.
>>729376249I'm using lg c1 and it slightly looks like op image but not as obvious. I see the columns when I stare, but for the first few seconds it looked clean to me. my pixel brightness is set at half though.
>>729376824I can see vertical lines on your screen. Don't you see them?
>>729377141There's this thing called exposition and this motherfucker doesn't know how to adjust it
>>729366786Imagine having the pornhub logo burnt into your screen that would be a nightmare
>>729377324That picture is the equivalent of this
>>729377365My phone has settings for WB, F, S, ISO and EVWhat would be the correct values?
>>729376249>>729376824>>729377365ISO 400, RAW picture, everything else auto.Now I need to deal with the moire effect...
>>729377476And both are deliberately bright to illustrate something actually viable on the source monitor, so that it will be displayed on a target monitor which has its own flaws. Those flaws are still real either way.
OLED has it's advantages
>>729376508i get no eyestrain on crtdepends on the eyes i guess
>>729379797and the refresh rateI remember some people not knowing about this, and thus keeping the default 60Hz after doing ther regular format c: of win98 or winxp.You could feel that shit as soon as you took a look on their pc.five clicks, 85Hz or 100Hz and BAM another fucking world
>>729377564 f/4.0 aperture lens, a 1/15 sec. shutter time, and an ISO of 200
>>729379332WOLED has gray banding, which gets more even the more pixel refresh cycles you go through - pixel refresh's whole point is to even out the brightness of every pixel;QD-OLED has raised blacks on bright rooms because it lacks a polorizer;All OLED have shit text clarity because of retarded subpixel layouts;IPS has IPS glow and fuck all contrast - a thousand local dimming zones is nowhere near enough to bring out proper constrant, plus it looks like shit on SDR content;VA has pixel smearing, bad viewing angles, typically low response times on dark scens (hence the smearing) and text clarity is a bit shit.TN is garbage all alround.No technology is perfect. Pick your poison while I wait for MicroLED.
Is this the thread where I bitch about how despite HDR is some huge marketing feature, like 10 of my 1000 steam games support it....what the fuck
>>729379973>WOLED has gray banding, which gets more even the more pixel refresh cycles you go through - pixel refresh's whole point is to even out the brightness of every pixel;I'm tired of big brother double speak, where we call deliberately burning in other pixels to even things out "pixel refresh"
>>729380025Of those 10 games, only 2 properly support it without breaking LUT.Out of these 2, only 1 uses Windows's calibration profile
>>729379973>TN is garbage all alround.has fast pixels response times which means it was for a long time the clearest high refresh monitor type.>>729380025You are safe here anon, feel free to complain.Find out that it's even worse on linux, because HDR on linux is more wonky and annoying to setup than windows and windows HDR is wonky as is.
>>729367018>>729366786Dirty screen effect isn't just an OLED thing moron
>>729380179But doctor, I am on linux
>>729366786>He fell for itoled is just plasma, you have to be a retard to get a plasma tv
>>729380179>Find out that it's even worse on linux, because HDR on linux is more wonky and annoying to setup than windows and windows HDR is wonky as is.Can't really blame GNOME or KDE. Both relied on technology from the 80s (the X server) for the longest time and Wayland is still not complete despite being in development for over a decade.
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>>729380112>>729380025>install reshade and renodx>play gameI dunno I think this is just a skill issue
>>729380063Pixel refresh doesns't force pixels to commit suicide. It adjusts voltage to even out every pixel, so they all perform at the same level.
microLED will completely solve this discourse.too bad they're still unobtainable.
>>729380636I just bought one and it wasn't even expensive.
>>729380179>Find out that it's even worse on linux, because HDR on linux is more wonky and annoying to setup than windows and windows HDR is wonky as is.It's a bit fucked because 2 years ago, Valve somehow figured this one out with gamescope and the Deck OLED has a setting on gamescope session that allows you to enable it.Right now if you have an AMD GPU and you're not squeamish about having to use a startup command on each game, HDR support is "fine". Plasma 6.6 is supposed to get better there. GNOME is a mess. But it's all tied to Wayland. And Wayland sucks some dick.The thing that Windows has over Linux still is AutoHDR/RTX HDR which have mixed results.
>>729380626Not the point
>>729380383Saddest thing is, nvidia did actually try to get something working there on x11 at some point. Many years ago.
>>729380626yeah. I tried getting a reshade installed for outerwilds on linux and it just doesn't work. The reshade is installed but the addon for HDR shit just doesn't work correctly.
>>729380636OLED manufacturers are colluding with each other to delay the development of microLED technology because they love how OLED monitors burn out. Planned obsolescence.OLED fans in this very thread fell for it.
>>729380635>Pixel refresh doesns't force pixels to commit suicide.proof?
>>729380626HDR and SDR -> HDR are different thingsRenoDX is definitely great though
>>729380867X11 needed to go a long time ago, and Wayland developers needed to stop being faggots.
>>729379907I use mine at 1440p 60hzIt could do 85hz too at this resolutionBut 60hz is fine to me
>>729380756>Right now if you have an AMD GPU and you're not squeamish about having to use a startup command on each game, HDR support is "fine".uhuh, tell me how to get outer wilds with HDR on linux.>The thing that Windows has over Linux still is AutoHDR/RTX HDR which have mixed results.which is exactly what I would want to use for outer wilds.
>>729381014I don't disagree. Neither is what I would say "good". I use Wayland begrudgingly. X11 will never get anywhere without the extra features and like you said, it shouldn't anyways.
>>729380718>I just bought one and it wasn't even expensive.Surely you mean miniLED, not microLED.
>>729381081What am I a wiki?Anyways just use this scripthttps://github.com/kevinlekiller/reshade-steam-protonI think there's a flag to install it with addon support in case you need to add a RenoDX mod, and if you don't have that, you could always use ReShade effects to try to still do some form of AutoHDR. It's not undoable just a monumental fucking pain in the ass just like a lot of other things on linux. I bother doing this because I'm a masochist and I shit you not, I'm running a windows application that got deprecated like 5 years ago over wine just to transfer pictures from an SD to organize them properly rather than just copying and pasting folders, to avoid clutter and getting everything organized. That's the level I operate on.Course you would have to run WINE on Wayland mode if you want any sort of HDR (or gamescope, which also supports HDR and did it before WINE). But this actually works even on the 'eck, I've used it with Nine Sols, interesting results.If you have an nvidia GPU you need an extra command and don't bother with gamescope, it will ruin your day.
>>729381780>If you have an nvidia GPU you need an extra command and don't bother with gamescope, it will ruin your day.yes I have an nvidia gpu, whats the thing?
>>729374825Well, he's obviously lying or fucked it up beyond repair because of his own negligence. Why would you take a shill at his own word?
>>729382338You need to add these as startup commands for each game you want HDR on:PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 %command%If you had AMD you wouldn't need ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 but basically it's the same shit. Running games on gamescope is still somewhat buggy on nvidia and will crash every now and then. Valve is still trying to figure out how the fuck to support nvidia properly when their drivers are absolute garbage.
>>729382524>Well, he's obviously lying or fucked it up beyond repair because of his own negligence. Why would you take a shill at his own word?It's a known issue with the new tandem OLED monitors. Most of them have color banding.
>>729382642>>729382338Oh also, make sure you use a different Proton fork, like cachyos-proton or ProtonGE. Don't use Proton Experimental.
>>729382642what if I'm using something like lutris or heroic launcher?
>>729366786Since these tvs can't be tested if you get even a smug of error in 9 months, refund it and try again. mine is 7 months now no problems.
>>729366786I don't mind the grey banding, the vrr flicker is a little more annoying The extra contrast is neat but I don't think it was worth the extra cost in the past Now that the price went down a bit it's almost kinda worth it
>>729374652>>729374825>>729382524it's amazing, even when you can google this shit and get lots of results, the OLEDshill still cries that it's all lies and made up.Reviewers and people on the internet are just all lying. huh....
>>729382731Do the same thing but add them as environment variables. Ain't too hard
I wonder how big a deal this text fringing thing is. I would like to wait for the PERFECT OLEDs supposedly coming in 2026But I kinda need a monitor now, I don't have one and using this 1080p TV as one is rather suboptimalI was using a laptop before with the TV as a second monitor, but I built a high-end (or whatever end you want to call a 9070XT) PC this black Friday so i need both an actual monitor and and an appropriate one now. Was gonna buy the gigabyte tandem when they come in stock on Amazon, and hope I get lucky/don't get unlucky with the grey banding.
>>729367985That's going to be my next oneLG already announced a 2000 zone 5k/1440p dual mode dream monitor
>>729366786I thought they made monitors by cutting up one massive monitor into multiple smaller ones, this one looks like it's made up of 24 slices glued together
>>729382915>I wonder how big a deal this text fringing thing is. Some people don't notice it at all, some people can't stop noticing it 24/7. It depends entirely on the person and the monitor.>Was gonna buy the gigabyte tandem when they come in stock on Amazon, and hope I get lucky/don't get unlucky with the grey banding.If you get lucky with one that doesn't have the banding issues, then they are apparently very good monitors for a very good price.
>>729383150>I thought they made monitors by cutting up one massive monitor into multiple smaller onesfuck you serious? thats so bad, thats sooooo fucking bad.
>>729366786OLED is great for tvs, I would not fuck with them for my PC unless it was some really high end crap and even then I’m hesitant on buying premium monitors. It’s never exactly what you want even when you do your due diligence
>>729382915QD-OLED and WOLED have different fringing issues.But even within each category it's more or less noticeable in different monitors.I have 2 monitors side by side, one QD-OLED, one IPS, and I struggle to tell a difference unless I take a magnifier out of my pocket but I've been told by a 4channer that I'm blind if I do not see it very clear, and I only had 1 QD-OLED display to try.
i only trust sony to make proper screens. everyone else are just imitators
I guess i won the panel lottery cause mine barely has any noticeable lines, it only has a slight noisy texture
i literally bought a "budget" OLED, an AOC Q27G4ZD, and its fucking great. no issues at all.
>>729383795>barely has any noticeable lines, it only has a slight noisy texturesounds like the average. winning the lotto would be a perfect screen.
>>729383956i don't even know if there's a screen without any grey fuckery in these new tandem woleds
>>729384023it exists.
>>729366786Did you cheap out or something? My OLED from 2020 doesn't look like that.
>>729383371Look up mother glass, it's how they have made monitors this whole time. The one in OP looks like it's assembled from scraps they couldn't use for proper sized monitors
