Just me needing to git gud, or is this game much much harder than Baldur's Gate 3? I'm in act 2, and there are so many fights where I just get roflstomped completely, and most enemies go through my armour in 1 hit.
the game just has dogshit gear scaling where your equipment goes obsolete armorwise in 1-2 level range. it's better in multiplayer when theres only one character to look after but managing gear for 4 is very tedious. I played it in multiplayer with 4 player friend group when it came out and thought it was amazing, replayed it recently in solo and it was really bad.
>>729372558I'm thinking if it will be a bit more enjoyable on one difficulty lower than classic.
It has a massive exp problem where you need to do EVERYTHING you can.
>>729373440yeah I dont think I've ever done a playthrough where I don't massacre driftwood for scraps of kill exp just before leaving act 2.
>>729371453Played on tactician and I kid you not the most difficult part was breaking from level 2 to level 3. First area enemies are very powerful and ways to get exp are very limited. Eventually I learned to cheese the game, so managed to get those levels. On Lone Wolf, each level feels like massive power spike early
DOS2 had objectively bad combatworse interactions that DOS and the physical/magic armor thing was beyond retardedyou literally NEED to cheese higher difficulties or you cannot win
>hey talk to this guy while I pickpocket himit's proto friendslop
>>729373842I usually don't mind and kind of appreciate this kind of difficulty. You cannot steamroll throught the game by being completionist, and must treat difficult battles like puzzles. Overcoming enemy who is several times stronger than you is an awesome feeling
>>729373842luckily cheesing DOS2 is really fun
>>729373985>cast rain on enemy outside aggro range>cast contagion on the edge of the puddle>wait 5 minutesfun. or you can do barrelmancy for another flavor of "fun"
>>729374161zamn bro, kind of a bummer that you didn't like it
Just play on explorer and save yourself the headache. It feels like BG3 does on normal. They screwed the pooch with balancing in DoS2.
>>729374359I'm just angry at smoke ruining the entire pyromancy school. I love not seeing the target 3 feet away from me because something extinguished flames around me. it's like the game funnels you into most boring garbage builds.
AI generated game
>>729371453Are you going the right way? The big maps like Act 2 are level-gated. If enemies are 3+ lvls, it's not worth fighting them, turn back and do some other quest
I really disliked the armor system in it, I forgot which difficulty I was playing it, but some fights were just quite difficult and I didn't know if I was missing certain easier fights that I was supposed to take part in before moving on. I was near that town where you go north and there's a paladin camp. I dropped it, I thought it was nowhere as interesting as the first game, combat wise and story wise.
>>729374772Not sure. The big fights I seem to be able to do atm are the trolls on the bridge, the posessed lady in the cellar and the voidwoken creatures fighting the magisters.
>>729373985>green tea>skin graft scroll>fun
>>729374930No, like you can see their levels, right? If they are 3+ higher than you, it's the wrong place.
>status effects dont work on enemies until you stip the assosiaced armor off>enemies focus down your armor and you have much less of it>every fight ends up as a race to CC the enemy before he can CC you.
>>729371453the game is hard even on normal, dont feel about chessing it
>>729375067>status effects dont work on enemies until you stip the assosiaced armor offthey do if you take the torturer talent
>>729371453>make stealth archer>use boss gear from 5 lvls before just because they give me offensive stats>armor doesn't matter to me since he never gets hit>if any enemy comes close, I have 2 gap closer skills and 3 ways to become invisible>smokescreen + bless can also do that in an AoE>enemy AI completely breaks when they can't see your partyI kinda miss this, maybe I should do another playthrough.
>>729375123I'm thinking about going down one step to explorer mode. Feels like a good compromise in this game.
>>729375335that’s ok, i remember having to sneak the final boss of the first act by letting it kill all the npc and throw shit at him while going on and off oof his agro to kill him, fun times lol
>400 hours on bg3>bought dos1+2>instantly hate it>bought pathfinder>instantly hate it
>>729375335Idk. It's one of those games with bad scaling, starts out very hard but gets exponentially easier as you level up. Like how you die to drowners at the start of Witcher games but can tear through armies like a blender at the end.
>>729375335btw use a guide for act 2 mob levels, will help you a lot
>>729373386>lower than classic.jesus christ man
>>729371453It's all about gear, like what the first anon said. Thievery helps a lot with it since it's trivial to steal shit from merchants.
>>729371453Early act 2 is quite difficult, since enemies aren’t as gimped and you’re probably still poor enough to choose between gear and next tier skills.Your best option is to just pickpocket what you need, then pickpocket high value items to sell.
It really suffers from the world being open while still having mobs be at a certain level. Like in the first proper city after Joy having voidwoken on the beach be very high level compared to a player at that point and nothing indicates that you should not go there yet.
tactician or nothing, you people are bitches. cheesing in whatever way you can think of is okay though, these games want you to break them.
>>729376137Breaking them is boring. I want to just see what they have to show.If I miss something I will feel bad because I am not willing to replay a long ass rpg just to see what might happen if I don't one shot this guy.
Dos2 Is way harder than Bg3 for sure. Only 6% of people on steam beat the game on tactician mode, chances are youre all BITCHES.
>>729376420Most people got bored of the game before they even got to Arx.
>>729371453The very early bits are tricky because you don't have full kit and a robust skill list yet. Steal what you can, sell to who you can, and do what you can that doesn't require fighting something four times your level.
>>729376792not OP but I made a rogue main character but I also don't steal, play moralfag, am I basically fucked?
>>729371453You can beat this game with basically any build. It only filters actual retards who don't like controlling 4 characters at once. No even then. Those people can always do lone wolf. They're just retarded.You retards are the reason games suck now. Learn how to prebuff this shit isn't rocket science
>>729376959I wouldnt say so personally. Get the lucky charm perk for MAXIMUM gambling and luck outAlternatively you could steal the art from the magister stronghold since its considered ok to take items from that area and those paintings sell for quite the amount
>>729376959not stealing ever is real hardmode because the game has really bad gold economy where natural gains stay moderate but costs go up exponentially. it's like not having any money to buy anything ever vs pickpocketing every vendor empty.
>>729376959Not sure if you've noticed it by now but there's a limited amount of lootables in the entire game and if those lootables don't produce good loot specific to your build, you'd have to depend on vendor gear, but vendors only reset gear every hour or on level up making it very tedious.
>>729377218Criticism might have some merit if you couldn't change your build for free instantly and still keep your play style 99% the same. But you can so you just got filtered
>>729376959There's plenty of stuff belonging to the bad guys to steal. Make use of it.
>>729377339>for freeyou have to invest in skill books though. it's not free unless you respec to a previous build where you got bunch of skills learned already.
>>729377468That's fair but I feel like you don't have this issue unless you're skipping loads of encounters anyway. From memory I always had a fuckton of money by the time the game gets hard in driftwoodMost people's issues come from trying to do content in the wrong order and being under levelled. Dos2 doesn't really require cheesing or optimisation imo
>>729378029>trying to do content in the wrong orderand it makes the game feel inorganic. like a cheap puzzle game with fake multiple paths.
For the new Divinity game I hope Larian learned their lessons from BG3. Balancing felt much better there and you could go to many more places without feeling undergeared.
>>729371453You'll need some time to gitgud. Pick the right skills and that'll do. Have your team do either magic or physical damage. Lone wolf is easy mode.>>729372558Worst fear ever. Level up invalids your gear. Often enough I had to buy gear.
>>729371453I just can't get over how bad the armor system is. Bought it on release and I still haven't finished it.
>>729378513The upcoming Dark Heresy has an armor system too. It's good however.
>>729371453Yeah. It's retarded. The armor system is ass. Enemies get a gorillion of it while yours lasts for one hit at best. It gets especially silly on tactician. So you need to cheese shit like with the strats that other anons already described or just giving teleport to every single character. And that shit's retarded. Some people consider this to be "fun", but to me it basically feels like abusing exploits which is the exact opposite.
>>729378592How does their armor system work?
>>729378513I don't get the hate for the armor system. It's decent and it's based on the idea that mages should be weak to physical attacks and CC, and that warriors should be weak to magical attacks and CC. It's not something great but it works.
>>729379042the values are still inflated. it's less about weaknesses but more like "this caster guy has 500 armor and 800 magic armor so I guess I'll spam throw shield until I can stunlock him."
>>729379042The problem people have with it is that it's basically just an extra healthbar, and CC effects are a guaranteed proc once it's exhausted.
>>729378421>I don't like having to think in combat. Not do I enjoy having to change my gear - I should be able to use items I get in the first hour for the whole game. I hope divinity 3 is more like D20 save and load simulator!! Gaming is fucking doomed.
>>729371453The first thing I did when I installed this game is modded out the armor system. I legit don't even know how the game feels playing vanilla but I saw that and was like "lmao nah"
>>729379042It makes full physical or magic parties the best choice. Mixed parties are awful.
>>729379042Retards prefer RNG systems because they don't have to think they can just bruteforce
>>729379473The exact opposite of this is true. You want to apply Cc to as many enemies as possible. Focusing on one damage type makes this impossible. You're all shit at games.
The game is unironically easier if you play with one character as opposed to a party
>>729379473>>729379474The duality of man
>>729379548Lone Wolf was nerfed to shit in the Definitive Edition.
>>729379539I see people post this dumb shit often and I think they all play on explorer difficulty because most endgame encounters aren't even possible on tactician if you went 100% phys or 100% magic. Youd need to tea cheese to clear most arx encounters when the specialised enemies start to clear like 10k
>>729379539This is why you do shit like giving your casters warfare and a shield so they can shit out physical damage every other turn and use rangers that cover both damage types. Which again limits your parties and your options a lot. Simply because you want to concentrate your damage on a single type as much as possible whenever you have to. Because you have to deal with a retarded armor system.
>>729379832>This is why you do shit like giving your casters warfare and a shield so they can shit out physical damageSo you didn't fucking focus one damage type after all? Jesus Christ you niggers have brain damage.
>>729379289Apart from some bosses, they don't feel inflated that much. Maybe you played in a difficulty harder than you were supposed to, in most fights you strip their weaker armor of the 2 in 1 turn at worst case scenario.>>729379350Nothing wrong with that in particular, especially since there are bosses that have CC immunities later on.>>729379473You are legit wrong. Mixed parties are better because each party member gets to deal with a specific type of enemy. You probably also think that Lone Wolf Summoner is the most broken thing you can do in the game.>>729379474>pray on RNG dice roll>fail>reload save fileThese are the people that enjoyed BG3. There is no hope for them.
>>729380008The majority of people never make it past fort joy. That's why they spout the same dumb shit complaints about using one damage type, summoning being op, replacing gear. The fact is none of this is particularly necessary after level 5 but they don't make it that far and they definitely don't want to admit that because they know it exposes them as a faggot casual.
>wife loves BF3>insist D:OS2 is larian's best game>they drop it before even leaving fortjoyWhy does this game always filter everyone? I beat it tactician iron man lone wolf by the way.
Party dropped it twice.I beat it as the Red Prince and got his ending.Peak game. BG3 felt a lot more unfinished and its camera was ASS due to the multi-floor combat.
>>729380650>party dropped it twiceThat's nothing, It took me 13 different attempts before I finally got someone to finish the game with me. I had fortjoy memorized by that 13th attempt.
>>729380731People might feel overwhelmed with the Fort Joy stuff I feel, since you're hurled into a lot of exposition. There's also downtime almost immediately after breaking out, too.
>>729380962I'm gonna be real with you chief, if there was a story there I didn't pay attention to it at all.
>>729381018I'm not here to gatekeep but you need minimal /lit/ skills to catch on.Also, Div OS2 had more difficult puzzles.
>>729381142Meh the moment I see any kind of fantasy setting with magic, I instantly stop taking it seriously because it's probably about as indepth as starwars, which isn't really what I call even serviceable. But hey it tried to be funny instead of serious, so that was nice. I definitely had a few laughs.
>>729381018"If there was a story" nigger you think you're funny? 80% of the game is text boxes. you want a medal for skipping it? What the fuck were you even playing for? The coloured damage numbers that pop up when you hit someone??
>>729381580I didn't skip it, in fact the only reason I even played it is because it had full voice acting. I just didn't give a single fuck about what was going on and still don't. U mad?
>>729381447Read a book faggot.Also fuck this captcha holy shit
>>729381680Oh and if your crpg DOESN'T have full voice acting then I will immediately drop it.Pathfinders? Dropped.Rogue Trader? Dropped.Fuck you, do full voice or fuck off. Larian clearly set the standard with divinity original sin 1 and I demand every crpg be on that level MINIMUM or I will not play it. Cope, Seethe.
>>729381680>U mad?Kinda. Based tho
Playing Baldurs Gate 3 after DOS 1 and 2Baldurs gate 3 is actual fucking garabage in every single way compared to Divinity
>>729371453Worst buyers remorse I've ever felt because of this game.
I hate the gear system in bg3. You rarely ever get upgrades, and even then they aren't upgrades but just a build changer
>>729373985>get godtier low level spells like teleport on everyone >keep teleporting enemies into napalm lake>fun
>>729381865>Oh and if your crpg DOESN'T have full voice acting then I will immediately drop itThis is a violently homosexual thing to be smug about
>>729382486There is nothing more arousing then dominating other men into a weaker position, even better if they fight me to the death to avoid being raped.
>>729371453>teleport enemies next to each other>use pyroclastic eruption>instantly win the fight>go recharge source>repeatdos2 is fucking BOOOOOOOORING
>>729382486My reasoning is because they did it in a way that is obvious frontloading. If you can't be bothered to do voice acting, do not pretend like you are going to do it by giving it to me in the prologue and then immediately taking it away. It is absolutely disrespectful and exploitive.
>>729374981>>729382190Yes, exactly. Using teleportation from 4 different characters to put everyone in a pile, then drop run of blood + grasp on them is fun. Using swap terrain to teleport a patch of lava, one-shotting a troll is fun. Using apotheosis to make my other skills free, then spamming adrenaline, blood sac and skin graft to take an infinite turn is fun. Setting the entire screen on fire then blessing it so it becomes holy fire and heals my party while whittling down enemy undead is fun. It is in fact the most I ever felt like a paladin in any rpg ever, through gameplay alone.
>>729382872No you don't understand, it's only fun to savescum my d20 rolls on my meta lazeal build
>>729371453Act 2 has a huge number of encounters, many accessible right away but not necessarily suggest to do immediately. You don't have to complete everything, but the game does expect you to explore and do a lot of encounters to keep you up to the correct level. If any specific encounter is too hard, there's other easier ones you can do instead as act has a huge map.
>>729382614>doesn't know about infinite apotheosisNGMI
