Is HL1 better than HL2?
>>729378307yes. HL2 is a shitty tech demo
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No
>>729378307They're both great games for different reasons
it may be or it may be not, depends on what merit you compare them>>729378609agreed mr cat
>>729378307No. HL1 didn't age very well desu
HL1 has that jank and cartoony low-poly feeling with smashing SFX.HL2 has interactive physics and more canned animations/cutscenes (why??).If I had to absolutely pick one, HL1 it is.
Postan the Half Life 1 fun mod list:Half-Life: FIELD INTENSITYHalf-Life: THE INFECTEDClean Half-LifeHalf-Life: ZOMBIE EDITIONHalf-Life: AZURE SHEEPHalf Life SumHalf-Life: FOCAL POINTMilitary DutyHalf-Life: RESIDUAL LIFEHalf-Life: SWEETHalf-Life: Life's EndHalf-Life: VISITORSHalf-Life: HOPELESSNESSHalf-Life: HOPELESSNESS 2 - THE AFTER LIFEHalf-Life: BLACK GUARDHalf-Life: BLACK MESA SIDELINEHalf-Life: FIGHT FOR LIFEHalf-Life: HALF SECRETHalf Life: SidelineHalf-Life: RESIDUAL POINTHalf-Life: OPERATION NOVAHalf-Life: InductionHalf-Life: REPORT ONE OPERATION ALIVEHalf-Life: DELTAHalf-Life: HELP WANTEDHalf-Life: URIELHalf-Life: CATHARSISHalf-Life: SHIFT-TWOHalf-Life: THE WORLD MACHINEHalf-Life: SENSES IN DECAYHalf-Life: ECHOESHalf-Life: POINT OF VIEWHalf-Life: BRAVE BRAINHalf-Life: UPLINKEDHalf-Life: CASE CLOSEDHalf-Life: XEN WARRIORHalf-Life: EVACUATION POINTHalf-Life: SIGNAL LOSTHalf-Life: Opposing Force: UNDER THE BLACK MOONHalf-Life: Opposing Force: A SOLDIER’S TALEDetla Particles
>>729378720H-he's fast!
>>729378609>Half-Life games>GreatNot a single game has cited them for inspiration or talked about them as having any impact. They're overhyped by the Valve Cult but normal people don't even care about them at all beyond memes.
>>729378307yes, HL1 is better, because it has a world class setting>government black site experimenting on inter-dimensional travel and aliens>one of the most atmospheric introductions to a game ever, just another day at the office OH N->endless scientist/security guard slapstickHL2 threw that all away for exploring a slavic orwellian dump and listening to the most unfunny chick in existence
>>7293791855/10, almost got me.Nobody cites the Bible for inspiration either.
>>729378391It's been more twenty years, anon, we can discuss these games now.
>>729378307I prefer 1 but 2 improves on many aspects. Big vehicle segments and Gravity gun sort of give you this feeling of freedom. Sadly the game suffers from boring weapon design, poor enemy variety and mid setting. Most memorable part is using bugs to fight boring soldiers... At least valve tried to spice things up.
>>729378307Yeah, I replay HL almost every year but I haven't touched HL2 since Orange Box came out. No desire to replay that game.
>>729378609>want to replay HL2>remember THAT part>and THAT part>and THAT OTHER partSeriously name a chapter or section that you would look forward to replaying.
I used to be the outlier for talking about how much better HL1 was than 2, now it seems like it's a pretty common opinion. I'm all in favour of the change, but what the hell happened, where did it come from?
>>729380160route kanalwater hazard (yes, i actually enjoy it)highway 17nova prospekt
>>729378307The only FPS games more Unc than half life is Doom and Quake. It’s one of the unccest games that exist.
>>729379185>Not a single game has cited them for inspirationwell done
>uncapped bunnyhopping>autohopping>speedometerHalf-life: Legacy perfected Half-life
HL2 is de facto the better game, but I respect HL1 more because it fundamentally changed what FPS games are. It's the most inspirational FPS game after DooM. I've beaten HL2 like 3 or 4 times, but I've beaten HL1 at least 10 times, and I still play crosspit from time to time.
Yes. The vehicle sections killed the pacing of HL2. It's also very hard to kill how immersive the beginning of the first game was, going from business as usual to apocalyptic hell with aliens spawning all over and you crawling over bodies and fallen furniture to escape was just unmatched. Going around the city 17 street just didn't hit that hard at all. HL2 has way too many exposition scenes and they got longer and more annoying, since they are unskippable.I also think the first game has more enemy variety.
>>729378376So is the first one. Retard.
>>729378307no
>>729380609>The vehicle sections killed the pacing of HL2You're an actual retard.
>>729380160I like the whole game, really. I find it difficult to drop whenever I get around to replay it. Same with the first one and the Episodes.
>>729380391what about wolfenstein 3D?
>>729380712>no argumentWho would have thought that HL2 fans are brainlets
>>729380851You never had an argument to begin with you fucking moron.
>>729380160I love the rebellion end section back in city 17. Kino
>>729380391Wtf does Unc even mean at this point beyond something being 20-30 years old? It tells you nothing about the quality of the thing beyond this.
>>729381517It's no different to calling something tranny, or indian, or zoomer or whatever. It just means you're a mouthbreathing retards incapable of articulating an opinion.
>>729380943But it is true, retard. The game barely started and we're supposed to drive this shitty boat for hours to no end. Nah fuck you and fuck Valve.
>>729381729>The vehicle sections killed the pacing of HL2>But it is trueNot an argument. I accept your concession.
>>729381853it's a pretty common criticism of the game, but if you want to plug your ears and sing lalala, well then fuck off
HL1 on hard mode is way better because it's actually tightly designed and balanced with regards to all the pickups you can find. Many HL2 encounters are complete slop where you often get access to infinite ammo crates and have to do shit like sit around and shoot waves of enemies.
>>729382053>but if you want to plug your ears and sing lalalaThere's nothing to plug my ears to. You aren't making any noise. You are completely incapable of articulating why its bad.>it's a pretty common criticism of the gameAh, so you're cattle who nods his head to the most upvoted opinion. Understood.
>>729379173No invasion? Bad taste
>>729382083This. I hate how Striders and gunships require more than 3 rockets while Gordon can only carry 3...
>>729382083HL2 also has dynamic enemy health/ammo drops which feels like a concession for every engagement being dogshit hitscanners shooting you from across the street like you're playing The Plutonia Experiment.
>>729382470I will try that and add it to The List. Currently going through Diffusion, which is pretty good but the AI voices are really off-putting and distracting.
>>729382682>every engagement being dogshit hitscanners shooting you from across the street Where did this crying about hitscanners come from? It's such a low IQ take.It is ok for a game to drain some resources from you and for you to replenish them.
>>729382682Oh yeah that's also a reason why HL1 is better than the second, the run and gun gameplay, dodging vortigaunt bolts, dodging the barf from the bullsquids, dodging the area effect from the houndeyes, is just superior to the countless hitscan enemy encounters in 2, it just gets boring constantly hiding behind a wall having to fire 50 rockets at the strider, or having to hide from helicopter machinegun, this shit isn't as entertaining as being able to stay in the open and dodge projectiles yourself.
>>729378307I played them back-to-back for the first time recently (just in case)Kind of disappointing how little enemy variety there is in HL2 in comparison to HL1. I mean sure you can say the enemy AI is way more intelligent but my main memory of combine soldiers is them standing perfectly still next to explosive barrels like buffoons, they never ran around the environment like the HL1 soldiers/assassins.
>>729382957The heli engagements in HL1 mog the shit out of the ones in HL2First heli in HL1 is at the end of the cliff, you're still on edge from probably falling to your death several times, you're low on ammo, you get a surplus of rockets and get to have your revenge, OR if you were frugal with your weapons you can use some 9mm/shotgun/magnum ammo. Then the next copters you have better and better gear, to the point where you can start charging your tau cannon as the copter enters the screen and immediately blast it to bits. It's so cathartic and lets you keep up the pace.Meanwhile every copter engagement in HL2 is humping the rocket crate as the scripted event takes place and won't let you proceed until you finally put 10 rockets into the gunship, also no other weapons work because fuck you.
I beat Hazardous Course 2 the other daylots of funyes 1>2 simply because of mods
>>729378307From a story and pacing perspective, yes. HL2 has better shooting mechanics though.
>>729378609We don't need that milquetoast take on this board. I'm going to tell the mods to ban you.
>>729378720Doggo living the best life.
>>729382682Only place where this became a real problem for me in my last playthrough was at the end during the street battle outside the museum. But holy fuck was that a miserable experience.
Half-life: Legacy Movement > Half-Life Movement > Half-life 2 Movement
>>729379173>Half-Life: THE WORLD MACHINE>has the HEV suit already>has to pick it up againFantasticIt's just another "look, it's HL again, but I made it"Why?It's just a random mod I picked from the list to check out. I prefer something more unique than "it's another HL story where you start before the resonance cascade and basically just play as another pseudo Freeman"I mean shit like Blue Shift is the same, but it's one of the reasons it's shit
Valve really dropped the ball by not making HL2: Opposing force, they had everything lined up, a progress from Civil Protection -> Combine Soldier -> Combine elite, could do some experimenting with squad mechanics and more. Well, that fatfuck doesn't care about this series anyway.
>>729380160>want to replay HL>remember THAT part>and THAT part>and THAT OTHER partI mean I love both, but I just don't want to replay themBUT I still think that HL2 is a rare example of a 10/10 gameIt's just that I remember it too well and don't feel like replaying itThe episodes are amazing too (okay, EP1 is... not great, but it's okay)
>>729384045OpForce is not cannon
>>729378376Neither games are for you
>>729378846As a zoomer who has no nostalgia of playing it in the 90s, I thought it aged pretty well.
>>729384257I don't care, the game was good and it made for interesting mechanics. Who the hell cares about HL's cannon? The games' stories aren't particularly amazing
>>729380391They're called boomer shooters, damn it.
>>729384196What do you think about HL2's enemies, especially their ai? I think that some criticism against HL2 is a little bit biased>>729378846It aged extremely well. The only bad thing about HL1 on hard difficulty is the glock. After I get the smg, I only use it for killing headcrabs when I have low ammo
>>729384692Really? I think the glock is the best weapon in HL1, it's pinpoint accurate and has good damage, headshots will kill marines in short order even on hard difficulty, and ammo is plentiful for it. I've done multiple playthroughs where I beat the game on hard difficulty using nothing except for pistol and crowbar, and I'm not just speedrunning past everything - I kill almost all enemies, except maybe a couple of copters and I have to bust out a couple other weapons for Nihilanth. Infinitely better than the SMG for sure.
>>729384932>Infinitely better than the SMG for sure.Maybe its not very accurate, but I waste like 20-25 bullets whenever I want to kill a marine, or I use it alongside the shotgun. And then I replenish my ammo. I think that it's not about how useful it is, maybe I just that I think that it's kinda boring.
>>729378307I like HL1 more, guns feel way more satisfying
>>729380160>on a rail>residue processing>lambda core>xen>gonarch’s lair>interloper>nihilanthoh wait, that isn’t HL2…
I've only beaten hl1, I played hl2 a bit then quit, pirated it, now I have alyx which is inbetween them in the timeline so it's like I'm playing the sequel.
>>729379173>no half life diffusionreally dude?
>>729386434Can't believe that people hate all these, I love Xen and Interloper so much. The only one that filters me is the Lair, but that's because I suck
>>729386530you’re going to spoil Episode Two by the end of Alyx. play in release order.
>>729386689I like xen from an atmosphere standpoint, but it’s a slog to play. you only like it because you’re stockholmed by the rest of the game
>>729378307HL1 is incredibly well paced and engaging to play throughout with very few roadblocks, i think the level with the revolving belts and some of Xen is bad but it's like less than 10% of the runtime. It's gameplay, guns and especially enemy design is simply superior to HL2. HOWEVER HL2 has the best setpieces of any game ever, It's music and world is so intresting and clearly realised, It's highs are much higher especially the episodes and it's story and characters rape HL1. So Gameplay HL1>HL2. Everything else HL2>HL1
>>729386434>>729386689Am I fucked in the head if I unironically love On a Rail? It's peak Half-Life - a concrete labyrinth littered with traps and ambushes, a good mix of human and alien enemies, and lots of paths and secrets to find. It's my favorite chapter in the game.
>>729386705>spoilingEpisode 2 is nearly 2 decades old you retardTetra is actually Zelda, you kill your son or nuke boston, and Eli Vance fucking dies
>>729386891On A Rail is the ultimate filter that proves if you are a true Half Life fan or not.
>>729386810It's good anon. I like the atmosphere, how it's designed, and doing long jumps. Platforming isn't even hard>>729386891No man, I like it
>>729386891I like it, but it goes on too long, and you cannot possibly defend the road sign shooting. that’s fucking ridiculous lol
>>729381517It just means something is old=bad, from the same people who put orange 90s style photo print timestamps in the corner of their 8k pics taken on their iPhone 17 pro and try to dress like its 1998.
>>729379185>They're overhyped by the Valve CultExactly. They are just so basic it's ridiculous
>>729386940okay, but not everyone played Episode Two 2 decades ago. I’m encouraging someone to maximize their enjoyment, you unlikable cunt.
>>729379173I've played all of these and like 100 more. I ran out of peak mods a long time ago. Now even the mids are drying up. Soon I will be forced to play babies first map tier mods made by Slovenian children.
>>729386434I unironically love on a rail and residue processing. Xen would have worked really well as early levels after the experiment goes wrong, not as the finale.
>>729378307came to post this >>729378609they feel like completely different experienceseven the story doesn't even feel like it connects
>>729387338I want to make my own levels
>>729378307I like HL2 better, unlike HL1 it has no sections which I outright hated.
>>729387035how the fuck is my brain able to make out costanza on a fucking 13x13 resolution pic
>>729386434At least Xen and Residue Processing are pretty damn fast to get through once you learn them. On A Rail is overhated.The only genuinely impassably fucking awful part of HL1 is InterloperMeanwhile in HL2 you've got shit like "It really is you, isn't it?" and being stuck in Breen's office for the better part of an afternoon with no way to fast forward through that shit without glitches. Same with Highway 17 and Water Hazard, where you're gonna have long ass stretches of absolutely fucking nothing unless you wanna skip half the map with a grenade jump.
>>729387483Pattern recognition is unironically one of our greatest abilities that separates us from animals.
>>729387521I play through HL2 on 3X speed for most sections
>>729378307As a zoomer, I think HL1 is better. Both are great games but HL1 has tighter level design and I think the atmosphere is more interesting. HL2 is too open and tries to insert physics into all the gameplay which may have been impressive for the time but isn't very interesting today
>>729384257Wrong, and not just because of your typo, and whoever told you that is wrong tooYes even developers you fucking bootlicker
>>729387598I always thought it was endurance>be cutie patootie animal>suddenly see a group of tall figures on horizon slowly walking towards me, holding sticks and wearing the skin of my brothers>no problem, I'll just run away>run for half an hour>menacing things are still on the horizon, slowly coming closer>run for an hour, get tired and rest a little>hear a sound behind me>the skinwalkers have surrounded me and are lifting up heir sticks>die
>>729387865>one of
>>729387483Here's another one
>>729387865humans are kind of terrifying from any other perspective LOL
>>729387904forgive grug, reading not amongst greatest strengths
>>729386434As others have said, On a Rail and Residue Processing are both good (On a Rail is great, arguably my favorite section of HL). The only pre-Xen section I think I get the hate for is Lambda Core, and that's mainly due to the trail and error nature of the teleporters.
>>729379173>Half-Life: FIELD INTENSITYLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: THE INFECTEDLITERALLY WHO>Clean Half-LifeLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: ZOMBIE EDITIONAUTISM MOD>Half-Life: AZURE SHEEPFAGGIEST AUTISTIC MOD EVER, PLENTY OF RETCON FROM CANON AND SHITTY OC CHARACTERS>Half Life SumLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: FOCAL POINTLITERALLY WHO>Military DutyLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: RESIDUAL LIFELITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: SWEETTRANIME>Half-Life: Life's EndLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: VISITORSLAME AF>Half-Life: HOPELESSNESSLITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: HOPELESSNESS 2 - THE AFTER LIFELITERALLY WHO>Half-Life: BLACK GUARDBLACK? THAT SHIT IS POZZED>Half-Life: BLACK MESA SIDELINE>Half-Life: FIGHT FOR LIFE>Half-Life: HALF SECRET>Half Life: Sideline>Half-Life: RESIDUAL POINT>Half-Life: OPERATION NOVA>Half-Life: Induction>Half-Life: REPORT ONE OPERATION ALIVE>Half-Life: DELTA>Half-Life: HELP WANTED>Half-Life: URIEL>Half-Life: CATHARSIS>Half-Life: SHIFT-TWO>Half-Life: THE WORLD MACHINE>Half-Life: SENSES IN DECAY>Half-Life: ECHOES>Half-Life: POINT OF VIEW>Half-Life: BRAVE BRAIN>Half-Life: UPLINKED>Half-Life: CASE CLOSED>Half-Life: XEN WARRIORCRINGY FANFIC MOD KYS>Half-Life: EVACUATION POINT>Half-Life: SIGNAL LOST>Half-Life: Opposing Force: UNDER THE BLACK MOON>Half-Life: Opposing Force: A SOLDIER’S TALE>Detla Particles
>>729388227Grug no need forgive. Other anon just gay.
>>729384045It's called Entropy: Zero
>>729388252>>Half-Life: AZURE SHEEP>FAGGIEST AUTISTIC MOD EVER, PLENTY OF RETCON FROM CANON AND SHITTY OC CHARACTERStell me more please, I always love to read a detailed rant about shit writing
>>729387483You had a thumbnail copy in your brain for organization
>>729388497pure fan fiction trite with le quirky reddit dialogue
>>729384196>okay, EP1 is... not great, but it's okay)Episode 1 is underrated and I'm tired of fake niggers who played through it once and didn't even think about how it's a better distilled version of all of HL2's chapters
>>729378307In my opinion yes
>>729388686the citadel core section is really tedious to get through, and it’s the first hour of the whole expansion. that, as well as the narrative not progressing much, is why I think most people don’t think as warmly about EP1. I personally think it was Valve doing proper justice to the admittedly underwhelming street war sections of the base game
>>729378307I like replaying HL1 moreHL2 just seems so boring to me on repeat playthroughs
>>729388642You wanted an answer, whether it's up to your impossible standards is another matter. I enjoyed E:0 and E:02
>>729388686it's also a more distilled version of all HL2's weaknesses>gunplay which already sucked is thrown out in favor of MORE gravity gun wankery>gameplay is halted even more with forced waiting sections and listening to Alyx>I sure hope you like endless zombies and combine sections because that's all you're getting
>>729389245the first one was great because it barely had dialogue. I don’t know why the mod author suddenly decided to become a cringey auteur with the second one
>>729378720>that disgusting mutt bastard phenotypeStreet vermin should not be pets.
>>729379173>no they hunger>no afraid of monsters>no poke646Are those too mainstream now or what?
opposing force is the most kino FPS ever made
>>729389316it's a moot complaint because that's just endemic to all of the HL2 games
>>729379173You forgot>Half-Life : Buddhist Wars
>>729388686i find that EP1 is ok if you don't play it right after HL2.
>>729378307Zoomers like HL1 more so HL2 is probably a better game
Prefer Black Mesa
>>729378307Yes, but they are both excellent games
>>729391002>it's real
>>729381517
>>729378307OH GOD WE'RE DOOMED!
>>729378307By infinitely large margins yes
I hate both games and never understood why people liked them so much. I'm not even a zoomer as I played all the big 1998 games back in the day like Resident Evil 2 and Zelda OOT and MGS1 and Tomb Raider 3 and Pokemon Red and Half-Life was easily the worst of the heavily praised games that year. I didn’t even bother finishing Half-Life 2 as it was so boring and even worse than the 1st one.
>>729399425>Pokemon Red >and Half-Life was easily the worst
>>729400141RPGs are more fun than FPS games.
>>729400620What are you even talking about? Half-Life has RPGs, are you okay?
>>729387865Humans have a lot of advantages that sets us above many animals. It's just that people rather focus on the disadvantages instead.
