>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of quality, is way better and has far more freedom than the toddler moon collectathon>Sonic Crossworlds brutally mogs Mario Kart World by virtue of being a proper racing game with courses and not a straight line simulator >people still underestimate and downplay Sonic Can anyone explain this to me? The same thing happens with people downplaying Digimon even though Digimon games are way higher quality than anything Pokemon can put out
>>729382894odyssey was better and no one but autistic kids care about sonic
>>729382894>>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey >>Sonic Crossworlds brutally mogs Mario Kart WorldThis is why people hate sonic, that delusional mindset you fags have
>>729383050/thread
>>729383050Don't forget about Sonic Lost Worlds >>>>>> both Mario Galaxies
>>729382935Odyssey was a trash collectathon that has been entirely forgotten. >>729383050>IT SOLD BETTER THAT MEAN IT BEAT SONICThis is why everyone hates plumber dick suckers
>>729383050>Implying tendies mindset is any better
>>729383395Extremely extremely extremely EXTREMELY telling that Nintendo fans only ever talk about SALES and not QUALITY
>>729383395mario got a nice booty
>>729383652>Sonicuck even having the audacity to chat about qualitylmfao. You don't have the sales AND the quality
>>729383713Sonic CrossWorlds is objectively better than Mario Kart World and literally everyone that has played both agrees with that. Mario Kart World is seen as a letdown by virtually everyone that isn’t a /v/ tendie that has to say every single Nintendo game ever is good or else you are a snoy
>>729383937>literally everyone that has played both agrees that Sonic Crossworlds > MKWFactually incorrect but keep on denying reality, faggot.>Reviewers agree that MKW > Sonic Crossworlds>TGA Panelist agrees that MKW > Sonic Crossworlds>General public agrees that MKW > Sonic Crossworlds (they all bought MKW and no one bought Sonic)No one agrees that Sonic Crossworlds > MKW, literally no one but your delusional cult.
>>729383937>my cult said it's better so it must be trueThen you niggers wonder why people laugh at you
>>729384259>tranime
>>729384259>NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE GAME WHERE YOU SLOWLY DRIVE IN A STRAIGHT LINE IS BETTER BECAUSE IT SOLD WELL AS A PACK IN TITLE!!! LOOK GEOFF KEIGHLEY EVEN AGREESHoly shit what a fucking drone you are
You're both obnoxious losers, get over yourselves. You're worse than the Klonoa pedos. It's like watching two homeless crackheads argue about who is smellier.
>>729384452> THE GAME WHERE YOU SLOWLY DRIVE IN A STRAIGHT LINEBut that’s Crossworlds
>>729384441>t. Furry lover
>>729382894
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityThe gameplay loop is night and day between the two come on now anon
Yeah no one wants to buy my game but Fadel said it's better than Mario Kart World so it must be true. Sonic Crossworlds is so good that the player count is always low, it's so good that you just have to drop the game and never boot it back up because a mere human is not meant to experience such kino
Frontiers was fine at best and Crossworlds, fun as it may be, is a mess. Claiming they're better is pure delusion.
>Mario mogs SonicBitch, Sonic belongs to Sir Bartleby MontClair of Dresdin
>>729383050Hey, he's right about crossworlds at least.
>>729382894>Sonic Crossworlds brutally mogs Mario Kart WorldCorrect>>>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityLMAOBut to answer your question, Sonic is still trying to shake off the baggage of the "Dark Age" narratives that plague the series to this day. Most of the things from the Year of Shadow onward were a good start, but if they can't keep up the momentum we'll be back to a laughing stock in no time. Mario plays it super safe with their story/characters and the games have a consistent level of quality, which makes it less interesting IMO but better for general series optics.Also Digimon is a lot more niche than Pokemon, they're not really comparable anymore.
>>729385490>>729385527Compared to most previous Sonic Racing games, Crossworlds is substandard
>>729385580I mean, you're right. What's the point of either of them when Ring Racers is better than both and free? And there's also Air Riders. But we aren't talking about those games right now.
>>729382894I don't care about SonicI hate Sonic fansIt's different
>>729385247I am praying that, one week from now, we'll be able to celebrate
>>729382894"why do people hate sonic" is a nonsensical question, because "why do people hate mario/thing?" also applies.the better question is, "why does sonic make mario faggots seethe?" because sonic is the better character, has the better games, and has the better company. sonic is the radical cool edgy guy who beats mario to a pulp then smirks. at this point in time, sega/sonic team is cooking and mario/nintendy lost. cope
>>729386445and then you woke up
>>729386682cope
>>729386219The Sonic Underground will return.
>>729382894A lot of people buy into the mindset that sales = quality.Mario has sales but no qualitySonic has neither sales or quality
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualitylmao
https://youtu.be/81nhkIPdzk4What do you guys think of Sonic Heroes?
>>729387321Its fun but the final story should have just been part of Team Sonic.Team Rose and Chaotic aren't funTeam Dark isn't different enough from Team Sonic.
>u-uhm c-cop- ACK!!!!!NIIIIIIIICCCCCCTTTTOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS
>>729382894Sonic fans are retarded
I don't hate Sonic, I hate sega and their shitty fanbase. The sonic franchise deserves better but they're stuck with "NINTENDO hire this man" tier games with the same generation levels
>>729386445>better characterBefore 2010, you'd be correct>better gamesBefore 2006, you'd be correct>has the better companylmaoSega would literally be dead if Isao Okawa didn't bail them out on his deathbed in 2002
i don't even understand why nuSonic fans hate on Mario/Nintendo when Sonic would be GGs if he hadn't defected to the GameCube and the GBA after Dreamcast got its plug pulled out. You're supposed to be hating on Crash or like Blinx or something.
>>729387845shadow gens proves you wrong. cope
>>729386445>and has the better company. nintendo isnt the one announcing season passes before their kart racer is even out or throwing in westoid slop like spongebob in a desperate attempt to pander to zoomers> sega/sonic team is cooking really not beating the "nintendo haters are negros and jeets" allegations
>>729387991The truth is if you made up a Venn Diagram between people who enjoy Sonic and Mario it basically be a perfect circle.
>>729388119>*generic_boostshit_game_#6 proves you wrongHmmm, don't think so chap.
>>729388150you're right, nintendo is the one making their consumers look even more retarded by pricing trash slop like mario kart whirl'd 80 bucks. dont forget their shitty pass for the previous game included mobile garbage>>729388206>genericlol ok. i see you are coping well
>>729382894>even though Digimon games are way higher quality than anything Pokemon can put outDigimon games have a fraction of the content Pokemon games do. Time Stranger does not even have multiplayer.
>>729388487how is that game not generic?
>>729382894Delusional people like you make me hate Sonic and I'm glad the internet agrees that it's fun to shit on Sonic fans.
>>729388692https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8acZzKYiwc
>>729384769Greedy bitch. At least she literally ate shit and died
Sonic sisters, not like this ... it was OUR time to shine, I thought everybody loved sponge bob and Ichiban??
>>729389091Geoff takes Nintendo money so he cant promote Sonic in any positive way.
>>729389181If he was taking Nintendo Money, then why didn't Bananza win GOTY there?
>>729389091izuka was literally sleeping during the entire show. he knows it was bungus and his game destroyed whirl'd
>>729388692Getting repeatedly sent to San Franscissco isn't a common gamer trope.
>>729389278>he knows it was bungus and his game destroyed whirl'dSo that's why he flew all the way to LA? Because he knew his game was going to be leaving empty handed?
>>729389278He was sleeping because he knows Sonic loses each timeThey didn't even acknowledge the shitty Jim Carrey movie lmao
>>729389278>Nintendo makes the worst Mario Kart>Sonic still loses
>>72938925733 was that much more popular
>>729382894>Frontiers best Odyssey in terms of qualitySo this is the level of desperation post-SA2 Sonic's decreasing quality has driven its fans into. That's just fucking dire. If any other big-name platformer did what Frontiers did it would've been massively ridiculed.
>>729389347>>729389359its a red carpet event. of course he is going>>729389448reception across all boards hates world, critics and consumers alike. crossworlds won this time baby
sonic's nose looks like a burnt french fry howbelit
>>729389465But if Nintendo's paying to win awards, "popularity" shouldn't matter. Maybe Nintendo's not paying to win awards and Sonic simply reeks of shit?
>>729389514>"i-i-i-i-its a red carpet event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"holy cope
>>729389332that's SA2>>729389015This is just Sonic Forces but with longer levels
>>729389514>reception across all boards hates world, critics and consumers alike>won the award>Sonic lost to a mobile game AGAINlol
>>729383238Nigga everyone stopped caring about Frontiers a week after it's released, same with Shadow Generations.
>>729389631seethe, dilate>>729389776>This is just Sonic Forces but with longer levelsjust go put a gun to your head. your brain doesnt work righthttps://youtu.be/Ucw6HYsslKE?si=ffJ83Kdd4cJ-gkxR>>729389796just like e33 won the award amirite
>Crossworlds is so good it's already discountedkek
>>729389907kek no one cares about Sonic
>>729389930that's what i am saying lmfao sonic's a dimeless shitter
>>729389907shadow generations is considered the best 3d sanic. it has overwhelmingly positive on steam which is unheard of for a sanic. cope>>729389930>>729389959cope
>>729387321Best 3D Sonic game.
I just realized but all the Sonic fans want is Sonic in MKW, that's why they're upset. They're tsunderes tho so i understand why they couldn't just start with that.
>>729389909That video is just homing attack chains ad nauseam. What's so special about this game?
>>729390064>overwhelmingly positive on steam which is unheard of for a sanicI don't think this proves the point you want it to.
>>729390064>shadow generations is considered the best 3d sanicthe bar is in hell
>>729389920wouldnt surprise me if it reaches bargain bin prices by january
>>729389920Meanwhile MKW had a $30 discount on release day
>>729389909>Sonic lost to a generic JRPG that used AIlmao
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityNo, and people giving modern 3D sonic a pass like this is why its gotten so bad.
>>729390208>homing attack chainsmore like chaos spear strats, multiple pathways and physics>>729390224it absolutely does>>729390264the bar is in heaven, and shadow gens is in space. cope
>>729390359Sonic is already using AI
>Geoff gives Nintendo a pity award so they don’t abandon the TGA>this means MKW is the best racing game of the year
>>729390359cope
>>729387536Sonic has the same problem as modern pokemon. Fans don't hold them to any standards, so they just get to get away with making mediocre garbage with okay music.
>>729390380>more like chaos spear stratsAKA flying over the level design>multiple pathways...that end in 5 seconds>and physicsif you laugh, you go to israel
>>729390523if sonic games are mediocre garbage, then what are mario games? smelly corpse trash?>okay musiclol. just end your life already
>>729382894People don't hate Sonic, they hate Sonicfags for being terminally online baiting retards like you. There's a good reason it was known as having the worst fanbase across the entire internet for years before other furfag and/or tumblr franchise fandoms would pass that crown among themselves.
>>729390443The pity award was DK in GOTY, retard. It only got one nomination outside of GOTY which was Family game aka the Nintendo award
>>729390523Frontiers and Crossworlds are two high quality games you fucking idiot. Meanwhile tendie warriors on /v/ go out of their way to defend garbage like Metroid Prime 4
>>729389920>Putting the SA1 adventure pose in the cornerThey're just trolling at this point. They know what the people really want, and still won't give it to them.
>>729390575>AKA flying over the level designnope. it takes a considerable amount of skill and timing>...that end in 5 secondsthey dont>if you laugh, you go to israeldoom morph has physics
>>729390645>Frontiers>high quality game
>>729390597Yeah, you're right this doesn't even pass the standard of "okay"https://youtu.be/yihniocOE_k
>>729390710>no argumentYou got raped
>>729390743https://youtu.be/jA3-IFI5k30?si=gOFIrqPHICbvFSxKyou deliberately chose that one.
>>729390691You got it back in 2006, stop bitching
Mario had better comics(manga) and cartoons(anime) than sonic.
>>729383050spbpOnly deeply autistic Sonicfags, the kind who tell you with a straight face that Sonic 06 is some underrated gem, think modern Sonic is anywhere near Mario's level.
>>729391125sonic 06 has better music than any mario game, that's for sure.
>>729390698>it takes a considerable amount of skill and timingHow is spamming 1 button skillful?>they dontsee pic related>doom morph has physicsPenny's Big Breakaway has way more physics than that thing
>>729391154
>>729386445You're delusional, Sonic has always been substandard claptrap whereas Mario has a golden track record.
>>729391154Impressive, very nice. Now let's talk about the gameplay.
>>729390802How is Frontiers a high quality game?
>>729391242>golden track recordEveryone fucking hates MKW and quit it months ago because intermission tracks are boring >>729391265Burden of proof is on (you) faggot
>>729391370>Frontiers and Crossworlds are two high quality games This is a positive claim. Anon is not obligated to prove a negative.
>>729391370>Everyone fucking hates MKW and quit it months ago because intermission tracks are boringOnly in your sonic fanfiction. In reality its topping the charts.
>>729391242MKW is the only time I ever heard anyone talking about MK in any sort of positive manner and it's all just in this consolewar cultist context rather than something candid and honest.
>>729389920Sega always releases games around Q3 to discount them around Black/Friday and Christmas.Its been their go to buisness strategy for a while.
Christmas dinner with the wife and kids go over terribly, Deen?What has you so hurt, man?
>>729391552Maybe that's why he made the video about fries, they had to order McDonald's after his wife burnt the roast.
>>729390326>>729390284We fucking won, Mariogods, our arch nemesis got RAPED and GAPED!
It's amazing how Sonicfags spend so much time seething about Mario in their own threads while if you visit a Mario thread they don't talk about Sonic at all.
>>729391197>no replyI accept your concession
>>729382894Simple because none of what you said is true.
>>729391197>How is spamming 1 button skillful?you hold the button down, boost/jump, then release and the joystick needs to be in neutral, otherwise you won't keep momentum.>see pic relatedwhat am i looking at? a tiny section of radical highway act 2?>Penny's Big Breakaway has way more physics than that thingmore doesn't equal better. that game is trash>>729391260>>729391229eh i dont need to. 06 has better music, which is part of a game. mario cant even get that right>>729391242sonic is experimental and anyone could argue that the games took great leaps while mario hits it off safely by jumping in a puddle like a girl. nowadays though, the quality is clearly in sonics favor. mario is making lots of corpified decisions lately and it is ruining their rep
>>729391448Cope retard, it’s self evidently high quality just watch a speedrun. Far more technical and demanding than anything the plumber puts out>>729391467Delusional moron. Only the most schizophrenic of tendies pretend that intermissions are good
>>729391628Nintentroons are too busy obsessing over Steam to talk about sonic, or mario for that matter.
>>729383238>IT SOLD BETTER THAT MEAN IT BEAT SONICNigga no one said anything about sales.
>>729390519>copewith whatSonic didn't win anything lol
>>729382894wtf is this real??????
>>729391743he won the hearts of everyone. mario kart world "won" a gay ass award while everyone quit that garbage months prior lmao
>>729391743What happened to Bananza winning GOTY retard? Tendies assured me it would win
>>729391671>it’s self evidently high quality just watch a speedrunOh okay, this is bait. Damn, you got me good.
>>729391825you could say he is, undefeatable. you lost nigger
>>729391667>sonic is experimental and anyone could argue that the games took great leaps while mario hits it off safely by jumping in a puddle like a girl. nowadays though, the quality is clearly in sonics favor. mario is making lots of corpified decisions lately and it is ruining their repNice cope, Sonic is experimental so Sonic Team can disguise their mediocrity behind "doing something new". If they try and iterate (Sonic 4, Forces, Superstars) they manage to fuck up.
>>729391667>you hold the button down, boost/jump, then release and the joystick needs to be in neutral, otherwise you won't keep momentum.all of this just because the jump kills your speed>what am i looking at?the average side route length>more doesn't equal betterYou think that game has the perfect amount of physics? What?
>>729382894>Can anyone explain this to me?Okay, easy>Odyssey has more varied mechanics as a result of possession and the level design accommodates for them while frontiers has wide open spaces with very little in it of worth or the cyberspace levels and a lot of those are reused from gens>crossworlds' only appeal is the wacky roster otherwise it's too slow and the maps are too large.
Frontiers can't be called high quality. Its fun, but everything fun about it is an accident. Everything intended about it sucks ass.No one who plays Frontiers plays it as intended, you do physics exploits and glitches to make the game more enjoyable. I'm not even against this myself, I enjoy it for those reasons too, but its universally agreed upon that the 3rd Island sucks ass because the zone kidnaps the player into highly automated 2D Sections where you cannot perform those glitches.The game itself at launch was horrible, ridiculous air friction forcing the player to basically run on rails. The game itself was honestly SAVED by the rail launch and Magnet dash opening up people's eyes to how much fun frontiers can be. SEGA miraculously leaned into this direction rather than away from it, they even made a youtube video that covered how to perform those techniques. Later DLC removed the Air Friction, added the spindash which allowed for insane jumps, and made the game all the better for it.But fact of the matter is, the launch game isn't even designed for those tools in mind. Meaning an overwhelming majority of the game is just an on rails automated mess or "do a jump here to skip the entire thing". Or Worse, those god awful Cyberspace levels that all have layouts made for different control schemes in mind, the fucking DRIFTING one really highlights how bad the controls for Frontiers really can be. ONLY the final DLC even feels like they began to experimenting with the tools that made Frontiers Fun.Frontiers is an accident, its not a high quality game. We're just lucky SEGA pulled their heads out of their asses and realized what people wanted from 3D sonic towards the end.
>>729391820Pretty sure you're the only one who ever said that to set up your own shitposting
>>729391618But of course
>>729391819>he won nothinglmao>>729391820>BUT NINTENDOsonic still lost roflimagine losing when nintendo is at their worst
>>729392264Why do you sonyfags make things like this.
>>729391819Your blue rat is nothing but roadkill under Mario Kart's wheels
>>729382894I've always enjoyed the Sonic spinoffs more than the original 2D platformers, I feel like the games don't show you enough of the stage onscreen for it to be enjoyable navigating the stages at the speed you're supposed to be going at
>>729391820>he's hallucinating again
>>729392001its experimental which is good. every game has something different to talk about. you can't even fucking talk about mario games lmao. the only thing you can talk about is "are u havin fun?" when a new game is released, and then they disappear like no one fucking cares anymore, because no one does. people like sonic with a sword, people like sonic as a beast, people like sonic in a car, on a hoverboard, the characters, shadow, blaze, etc. sonic games have substance, soul. mario games don't have ANY soul beyond super mario world. they are shit. and now we have true bangers like shadow gens and crossworlds.sonic is even more relevant nowadays than ever before. nobody gives a DAMN about mario kart world. literally nobody fucking cares. sonic is winning champ. yknow back in the day yeah secret rings was shit but when you look back we can appreciate it for what it was. what can we appreciate about mario looking back? nothing. ok odyssey was good but who fucking cares? there is nothing to even discuss about that safe game. but secret rings and black knight? chad games. sonic only has one anchor 06 and it still has better music and ideas than any mario shit
>>729392527>sonic games have substance, soul.It's that why you can't talk about any of it?
>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityNot even worth a (You), let alone a reaction image, but 2/10 for making me enter your thread and post in it.
>>729391693Nobody cares about steam except for PC vegans
lmao this thread was made right after the mkw sales thread
>>729382894>>Sonic Crossworlds brutally mogs Mario KartI prefer MKW to Crossworlds, but both are genuinely fun, so I can understand if someone thinks Crossworlds is better>>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario OdysseyThis, however, is straight up bullshit
>>729392527>sonic is even more relevant nowadays than ever beforeIs that why his fucking kart racer bombed despite being objectively better than Mario's from a gameplay perspective? You need a reality check.
>>729392626Stop constantly seething about everything around you if you don't care then, it's pretty simple.
>>729392724Saying people are angry doesn't make it true anon, especially when you're called out on it every single time.
This entire thread is just OP whining that people don't agree with him.
>>729392724Buddy take your own advice because you've been seething about nintendo and everything they do for the past eight years
>>729392857kek
>>729392576i just did you niggering fucking nigger.mario lost to kino. i would be embarrassed to tell anyone i like mario and if i listened to the tracks because mario is baby boo shit. get on my level.https://youtu.be/WwkgMXsXPFs?si=8vXOfFvETSIKAXM1>>729392719it sold over a million copies worldwide and only "bombed" in japan, which was expected. every parent buys their little timmy mario karty lmao. mario sales are just like call of duty sales. its a nothingburger. crossworlds is a genuine success all things considered
>>729392894>it sold over a million copies worldwideand how much Mario Kart World sold? Nearly 9.57 million units worldwide since its June 2025 launch
>>729392974>mario sales are just like call of duty sales. esl nigger
famitsucord out in full force today, running overtime for their forced absence to finally eat dinner with relatives again.
>>729392797>>729392626>>729392884Case in point. Now he's freaking out over apparitions in his head.
Sonic won because I don't have to buy a Switch 2 to play his games.Mario could also win if Nintendo stopped making hardware.
>>729382894Do people actually hate Sonic? Only out of touch soilennials stuck in 2010 hate him, and 4chan is full of those.
>>729393142so zoomers don't care about game quality?
>>729393046Ah yes, a screenshot of how many times "pc vegan" has been said without any proof of who said what.It's also not very likely that the people who invented the term and have a grudge against pc and Nintendo users use the term. Not at all.
>>729393206I mean, they are the people who suck off Sony.
>>729392894>it sold over a million copies worldwide That's worse than Team Sonic Racing. Its pathetic.
>>729393225Looking at the archive and it's very obvious only you use the term and everyone just laughs at you for being a weird lolcow, together with other retarded terms like OoTsnoy.
>>729392894>crossworlds is a genuine success all things considered>Low active players (peaked at 13k players)>No awards>1 million salesWhat did it win exactly?
>>729383050kek
>>729392894>mario sales are just like call of duty sales. its a nothingburger.Why doesn't this apply to Sonic? They're both mascot slop. Don't even dare to try to insist either has soul or some shit.
>>729393315It won the "Allowed general on /v/" award. Said threads are really just /sthg/ in disguise but don't worry about it.
>>729393310And what does "you" refer to exactly?
>>729393392why does /sthg/ needs 2 threads?
Most deluded thread award
>>729393387Because Sonic sells like garbage despite being a popular mascot character. So its favour have to invent cope to explain why nobody bothers buying it.
>>729393406The subject being talked about, that being the weird famitsu tendie who spams and shits up threads that happen to trigger you.
>>729393298it's actually incredible. selling over a million at a 70$ price tag as a sanic is unheard of. sales haven't been disclosed since, but we know its a major success. and it just released on the switch 2 recently. world is slop.>>729393315>>steam>overwhelmingly positiveit didn't win any bungus awards, but was still nominated. what it won was soul and heart, and everyone who has ever played it loves it while they hate world.
>>729393406He's saying you're a sonyfag. They're the only ones who say pc vegan and ootsnoy
>>729393046The post below yours is literally port begging kek
>Sonic Frontiers, an unfinished game that barely works and is just a bunch of platforms in the air in an empty asset flip of a world>any REMOTELY comparable to Mario Odyssey
>>729393525Okay? Doesn't sound like me, unless you know something I don't.
>>729393530I sincerely hope for your sake this is just some elaborate act of falseflag trolling and you don't actually believe the shit you're spewing.
>>729393616more fun, better music, etc>>729393657not an argument. cope
>>729393619Stop acting exactly like a famitsu schizo and maybe you won't be called a famitsu schizo, this is also pretty simple.
>>729393510>sells like garbagewhat is this delusional shit? It sells very admirably given the budget it has. Sonic x Shadow is about to hit 3 million, and Crossworlds sold 1 million in the first month. These are numbers you would see from B-project Nintendo titles like Arms.
>>729393530>what it won was soul and heart, and everyone who has ever played it loves it while they hate world.So. You're saying people only like it because they're contrarian?
>>729393706And what does this Famitsu schizo act like? Because from what you're saying if he acts like me then you're just getting angry at normal people.
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of quality, is way better and has far more freedom than the toddler moon collectathonAnon... it was a unity/ue5 asset store flip. Sonic Frontiers LITERALLY looks like the meme when you put a poorly made model of Mario in UE5 with tons of bloom and they say "NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN"I think Sonic will always be a joke because his fans are weird, delusional, sexual furry faggot perverts. Sonic is directly associated with his creepy ass porn and the creepy ass people who like it. Mario is not. Mario is just Mario. If anything, Mario might have one knock against him in that there is not a Mario community, but there is a Sonic community. But after looking at the Sonic community, maybe it is better Mario is just kind of corporate mascot man.
>>729393727>These are numbers you would see from B-project Nintendo titles like Arms.Which had a significantly lower budget than both of those games.
>>729393701The best that can be said about Sonic Frontiers is that it was playable.
>>729382894>Sonic FrontiersAwful game, cyberspace stages suck, no variance in any of the levels, boring, Odyssey was better>>729382935This. Autists, furries, and fujos galore. When Robohitler (Grok) gains global power the Mario fandom will survive and the Sonic fandom will not.>>729391125true lmao
>>729393824>heh I have no idea who you're talking about but he sure seems like a regular upstanding fella!smartest tendie
>>729393881Proof asshole?
>>729393727>Sonic x Shadow is about to hit 3 million, and Crossworlds sold 1 million in the first month.Even Crash has better numbers
>>729390598Yeah, I think the only hated Sonic gets is bleed over from Sonicfags. He himself people usually like whatever random game they played as a kid, or are indifferent to him.
>>729393530>b-but muh user scorelol okay so your idea of a "win" is the cult fanbase and shills posting positive reviews? got it
>>729393701Absolutely no Sonic track has come close to even Buoy Base Galaxy from Mario Galaxy 1
>>729393918Tendie? I'm a sonic fan.I suppose most sonic fans do have Nintendo systems though since most of his exclusives are on those.
>>729383050lmao rember when they tried to convince themselves Superstars was better than Wonder
>>729393927I don't want to see your asshole
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityStopped reading there.
>>729393943Sonic can't compete with Crash or Spyro.
>>729394046what a dumb clusterfuck of a post
>>729394162Well at least you admit English isn't your native language since you can't follow a basic sentence.I wonder if tendie means something in your language.
>>729394018every shadow gens track, even the 2d ones. >>729393969the only thing that matters, yes, ign
>>729393701>better musicSonic music stopped being good when they stopped using Crush 40. Most of the recent songs sound like they belong in an AMV
>>729394082it is. wonder is baby shit
>>729394318okay so its still good. gotcha
>>729394318No kidding, the Sonic Crossworlds main theme is outright embarrassing.
>>729394412>he doesnt like fast like whoa!you are such a fucking loser lmao
Granted my exposure to Crossworlds music has been very limited, so it could be a case of a select few tracks being completely dogshit, but they sounded like slop midi remixes to me
>>729393392Those threads are funny because outside of festivals, you can tell it's just a handful of anons that can't love without a general up 24/7 despite the threads being nothing but avatarfagging and complaining about the current state of the game.
>>729394574if you think sand road is dogshit, you should just put a gun to your head for lying
>>729394652yeah, fun. world threads have the same even worse trash with peach and yoshi gooners
>>729394412iT's SoNiC rAcInG
>>729394682>you should just put a gun to your head for lyingYou first, Sonicuck. This entire thread has been your subhuman species lying your asses off and failing to gaslight others into agreeing with your cult
>>729394746Never said the World threads were any better. Most pseudo generals on /v/ always devolve into necrobumping and gooner rp. The Splatoon threads are the most egregious example.
>>729393392>Game is so dead you need to go to /v/ to find people to play withDamn
>>729394804>he says this as his cult of nintendo corpos get blown the fuck out the entire threadput it in the chamber, champ. do it for mario.
put the fries in the bag, tendies.
>>729394682>>729394804Also, just listened to "sand road" and yeah. Midi remix dubstep slop. Would have been better off just simply slapping the raw S3&K's sandopolis ost and calling it a day
MK World is just more fun to play. Crossworlds is too dated and does nothing new, most of the new characters are just boring Fortnite rejects.
>>729395159bummer that you're only racing on courses like this for 25% of the time, the other 75% you're driving down a straight line
>>729394682Dude, sand road opens like fucking circus music and has some of the fucking weirdest vocal samples>hahaha RAGH>worlds loudest orgasm echoes in the distance >cough opa!It's fucking awful
games are dogshit and the fans are autists obsessed with the most childish caricatures possible
>>729382894probably because most sonicfags are insufferable faggots like OPit's like that meme about indians, constantly ticking between delusional gloating and begging for acceptencet. sonicfag
>>729395214it's the opposite now after the update, they also modified a lot of the intermissions and added more stuff in, that's why more people are playing now.
>>729395301They updated like 2 out of hundreds of intermissions you liar. And no you're still doing intermissions the vast majority of the time
So I'm not the only one noticing the rising influx of anti-Sonic threads after Crosswords was released, right?
>>729395386not really, you are doing more normal tracks now. stop lying.
>>729395428Well yeah. You guys started acting all smug and talking shit when you actually have no grounds to stand on so people are clapping back. Crazy concept, I know.
>>729395428Yes, yes you are.There aren't very many sonic threads here in general because no one cares about him anymore that's why you get the odd thread like this where someone attacks Mario for attention.
>>729382894operant conditioning and propeganda are very very powerful things.
>>729395428deserved
>>729395428I've only seen a handful of anti-Sonic threads compared to the absolute deluge of anti-Mario threads that have been happening since the Switch 2 was announced. Personally I don't think either types of threads are made by actual fans and are just a means to shit up the board with nonsensical bickering
>>729395428If anything there's way less anti-Sonic sentiment on /v/ than there used to be, after the zoomers who grew up with the 3D Sonic games took over and did their whole historical revisionism campaign with saying nobody had a problem with those games until da evil e-celebs.
>>729382935Odyssey character movement is the only good part of the game
>>729383236Tbf Mario Galaxy is shit, but I also never bothered playing lost world
>>729394412>main theme sucks>no Crush 40 songs available>no Sonic R songs available>3 versions of Stardust Speedway Bad Future for some reasonI like the game, but the OST and song list is pretty meh
>>729393616I thought mariofags liked random shit floating in the air?
>>729396432Yep, that thing you just made up right now is totally reality.
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of qualityAs possibly one of the longest existing Sonic fans I will cave your skull in if the next Sonic game is anything like Frontiers.
>>729382894>Why do people hate Sonic?
>>729396686I wouldn't like it but sonic is objectively the best character for open world
>>729383238Odyssey is the best game released in the last 15 years.
>>729394350Superstars is baby looney tunes shit lol
>>729396695Conveniently people always love to forget what the other half of Sonichu is, or how Chris chan is way more of a massive sperg for Nintendo stuff than Sega.
>>729395543>condition people to laugh at sonic by making shitty games and moviesYeah, I guess so
>>729396887It's because Chris' tism is very Sonic-coded when compared to Pokémon. Pokétism absolutely exists, but it pales in strangeness of the Sonic series. Also >massive sperg for Nintendo stuff than SegaViewer Discretion is advised.https://youtu.be/9LnuBXc5NW8?si=y_7K3y2YcjSO9i5W
>>729396887he is also a brony and a tranny lol
>>729396793>sonic is objectively the best character for open worldwhy? because he is fast?
>>729396887Chris-chan was discovered right after Sonic 06 dropped, which is why the Sonic part got more focus.
>>729396852psuedoregalia is better
>>729397140poketism doesnt seem bad on the surface, but when you think about it or interact with any pokefag for even a little bit it comes off as a mental illness or drug addiction. sonic fans can be degenerate, but wanting to fuck a pink hedgehog pales in comparison to people who shiny hunt and refuse to play any other game
>>729397273pretty much, but openworld is still an inherently shit genre of games
>>729397678Sonicfags also refuse to play other games.
>>729397678>but wanting to fuck a pink hedgehog pales in comparison to people who shiny hunt and refuse to play any other gameKeep telling yourself that
>>729396887He only really likes Pokemon, he's not a Nintendo fan. But Chris follows Sonic religiously hence why he became a Snoy when Sonic 06 went on PS3.
>>729397814 you've never interacted with a shiny hunter
>>729397678Sonic fans also only want to fuck alien hedgehogs that look more human than animal, Pokefags on the other hand are zoophiles that straight up want to fuck cats and dogs.
>>729397879They both look like animals don't try to powerscale it lmao. Both of y'all are freaks
>>729382894Sonic Frontiers might be the first time in Japanese video history where a Japanese was written in English and the Japanese translation had issues.
>>729397956Which is extraordinary. I don't understand how Sonic team accomplished this. Other than the franchise being cursed.
>>729396887It's because his thing is sonic, he injects it into everything he likes.Not to mention, you never saw him fucking a pikachu plush or get mad about pikachu's cry changing, it's always sonic.
>>729396205>>no Crush 40 songsIsn't there some kind of lawsuit going on that Sega cheaped out with Crush 40?
>>729397923Kek powerscaling zoophilia
>>729391552>>729391604>bragging about h as king wife and children on 4chan Why lie?
Sonic is just inerently less interesting then Mario. It is completely on-rails and the stages almost play themselves. It is the prototype to all these "press X to Awesome" action games and now it's literally just one of them with its endless QTEs.
>>729395861>that spoilerDing ding ding
>>729397678>poketism doesnt seem bad on the surfaceThat's how Pokétism can be tolerated. They know how to measure their powerlevel and can even publicly profit from their obsession.>Shiny hunters make videos and guides>Pokéfuckers can hide behind irony better with Smash or PassSonicfags fail to do this because a trend you'll notice about them is that Sonic IS the coolest thing ever and they have to share it.
>>729398461>Sonic is just inerently less interesting then Mario. It is completely on-rails and the stages almost play themselves. It is the prototype to all these "press X to Awesome" action games and now it's literally just one of them with its endless QTEs.
>>729398968>posts a game that does not, in fact, play itself
>>729398968Mario Wonder doesn't have a single QTE in it, though.
>>729399117>press Right to fall asleepIt plays itself
>>729399117Pls Bear with the Sonicucks, they short-circuit when presented with actual good video games
>>729398335>won't pay Brad Buxer>won't pay Richard Jacques>won't pay Crush 40>will still lock content behind the deluxe editionThey're worse than EA
>>729399187Lol no. Even a somewhat good Sonic Game like Shadow Generations is still just you pressing forward and occasionally a button to instantly kill an enemy on the screen
Mario characters are boring as shit
>>729382894Sonic dares to take itself seriously, which infuriates consoomer manchildren who want games to be meaningless cartoon slop forever
>>729399447I'll take the boringness of Mario's characters over whatever the fuck is going on with Sonic's characters.
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of quality>Sonic Crossworlds brutally mogs Mario Kart World dude, stop, i like sonic and you're making us look bad
>mascot cartoon game mid-off is guaranteed to get 500+ repliesit's crazy how consistent this is
People don't hate Sonic, they just wish he would be forgotten when Sega refuses to learn from their mistakes and do better.The problem is the fandom can't seem to see this decline and it irritates the hell out of everyone having to endure them making excuses for mediocrity.
>>729399536Yes, you're definitely fighting back against meaningless cartoon consumerist slop by buying Sonic games, keep up the good fight.
>dishonest outlets like IGN attack Sonic for decades with unfair scores outside of a few warranted trashings like Sonic 06>Nintendo fanboy youtubers like projared perpetuate the idea that Nintendo is dominant and supreme no matter what and games like Sonic are bad and didn’t have good transitions to 3D>DURRRRR Y DONT SONIC SELL GOOD? Y NO GOTY??? If Mario had been systematically attacked and denigrated for decades he would be getting the same treatment
>>729399537Nah
>>729399789Ah yes, the zoomer narrative that Sonic was just unfairly picked on by game journalists and e-celebs and that really, there was no problems with the series whatsoever outside of 06. Get real.
Sonic is actually being seen in a way better light by the public again in years, thanks to the movies, hell even his games are reviewing good again
>>729393701>better musicFrontiers has some good boss themes and Cyberspace themes, but Jump Up Superstar completely nukes the whole debate.
>>729399789>If Mario had been systematically attacked and denigrated for decades he would be getting the same treatmentAnd yet after being systematically attacked and denigrated for decades he's not.
>>729400003If the Sonic games were the exact same but IGN gave them 8 or 9 and youtubers praised it while constantly attacking Mario people would love Sonic way more
>Toddler game is better than Toddler game
>>729400179You’re fucking delusional, urnalists gave Mario Wonder a fucking 92 metacritic when it’s less memorable than fucking NSMB.
>>729382894>Sonic Frontiers beat Mario Odyssey in terms of quality
>>729400241you are brain damaged
>>729400241No, if by some fucking miracle that had happened, people would disregard game journalists and Youtubers even harder than they do now and consider them all paid off by SEGA.
>>729382894I know this is bait faggot, but anyways This is the best Sonic has been in years
>like Sonic>know and accept that most Sonic games coming out now are shit>watch on as things get worse because delusional retards like OP convince themselves that Frontiers was "peak" and that Superstars is better than Mania
>>729399789And whose fault for that but Sonic Team?I mean, look at their output these last 20 years:>Sonic 06, do I even have to explain this one?>Mediocre games barely anyone remembers like Unleashed, Secret Rings or Black Knight>Sonic Colors which is ok at best>Sonic Boom aka Sonic 06 2.0>Sonic Gal- I mean Lost Worlds>Sonic Forces was so bad not even op brings it up even though it came out the same year as Odyssey>Sonic Unreal Engine Generic Open WorldMeanwhile with Mario you just get banger after banger. The only Sonic game that you could make an argument for it being as good as a Mario game is Mania.
>>729382894Frontier fucking sucksSay what you want about the level design in Utopia but even the gameplay is better than Frontiers
>>729400753Don't forget Shadow the Edgehog, which was a similar reputation destroying "what the fuck is this" moment for Sonic.
Frontiers was ok, Shadow Gens was Great, The Sonic Movies are the best video game movies and Crossworlds was great, Sonic has had a great 2020's so far
>>729401257No the fuck Frontiers wasn't ok. It was a barely functional Unreal Engine asset flip. If ot released as a fangame on Gamejolt it would be openly mocked for being dogshit.
>>729401454it was ok
I thought frontiers was "ok" on launch, then I played it again after the DLC came out and my opinion of it dropped even further
>>729399616he is right. cope
>>729400112jump up super star is gay as shit
>>729400575Gotta agree, I see Sonic fucking everywhere now, kids love this blue fuck again, mostly thanks to the movies, but that overall leads to kids wanting to play his games, so it worked.
>>729400725I dont think anyone has said super stars is better than mania. maybe you're thinking super stars is better than wonder
It’s all about entry. Uninformed parents feed their children Mario, and if it sticks, they don’t try anything else until they’re old enough to purchase a PlayStation. Combine that with Reddit mobs trying to manipulate the price of Nintendo games and toys (Pokemon cards for instance), and you get a worthless series with a veneer of “success”
>>729400323Case in point.
>>729401746>but that overall leads to kids wanting to play his games, so it worked.just making shit up
>>729401791No there are definitely people here at least saying Superstars is better than Mania. Usually the same type of retard that refers to Mania as a romhack
>>729401791No, he's right. There were actual degenerates saying that it was better than Mania.
>>729401896What the fuck are you even talking about?
New Super Mario Bros 2 styles on every Sonic game released on the last decade and it's the absolute bottom of the barrel for Mario. There is simply no competition.
>>729402170you might as well call yourself a sovereign citizen with that level of delusion.
>>729402258I'm not even remotely kidding the gulf is that large.
Jesus Sonic still rustles Tendies panties kek
>>729402357sonic mania is better than any 2d mario.
>>729401604>telling your fellow sonicfags to cope with not having better games in order to defend sonic
>>729402357nope. not even close. sonic mania and shadow gens shits on nearly every mario game
>>729402471no the fuck it isn't lmao Mario Wonder styles on it.
>>729399698Nintendo and Sonic attracting the autism they can are a phenomenon to be studied.
>>729402559>shadow gens shits on nearly every mario game
>>729402579no it doesnt lmao. I played both. Wonder is a one and done with a baby mode. mania is the stylish game and shits on it in every department from difficulty to level design. Wonder is fucking trash
>>729402559Lol don't kid yourself. Shadow Gens is the only one of these games that's good and even then it's still basically impossible to lose with how on-rails it is. Even a bottom of the barrel title like NSMB has better movement, better OST and better controls.
>>729402579mario wonder isnt even as good as new soup U
>>729389907That implies anyone gives a shit about Odyssey either. I tend to forget it even exists. Very mediocre game, most fun I had with it was just doing the Luigi balloon mini gameNot that Frontiers is any better
>Mario vs SonicWhy? Sonic would kick Mario's ass.
>>729402670Sonicfags are this delusional? Your game is a cutscene interpersed by an occasional QTE.
>>729402717HAHAHA. Oh lord you went from tendie to straight nintendo paid shill. Shadow gens mom's the fuck out of every 3d mario game and takes a nigger dump on the 2D mario games.>>729402779nothing you said makes any sense
>>729402459anything gets these faggots mad, just bring up, Digimon or Palworld and they'll go nuclear
>>729402834Mario has actual 3D platforming unlike that game
>>729402898it has speed, difficulty, branching paths, multiple abilities. shits on nearly every one of them mario games
>>729402834I can beat Shadow Generations with my hands tied behind my back because it's basically just pressing forward and walking on rails. It pilots itself and all you gotta do is occasionally do a QTE or press a button to kill any enemy instantly lol
>>729402898only 3 of them.
>>729402459>>729402895It's almost as if you're getting mad on their behalf.
>>729402992its not that hard to play with a controller behind your back.
>>729402895Palworld is a thief franchise that stole thousands of Nintendo patents and Digimon is an irrelevant ripoff that failed to reach US shores because of Saban and because Aguman isn't as cute as Charmander.
>>729402986>difficultyLMAO. You have to be retarded if you find Sonic to be hard
>>729402992https://youtu.be/bSeN_XB7P0ssure thing champ. tell me where the QTEs in this stage you fucking dumb nigger lmao
>>729403189Homing attack chains
>>729403184harder than mario slop lmao. mario games are fucking baby shit kill yourself lol
>>729402170Other than Mania I agree
>>729403261branching paths, chaos spear strat, physics
I always find these threads hilarious because it always progresses the same>this game is better than tendie games but people don't think so tell me why this is?>insert legitimate posts>OP then makes a shitpost and replies to that>later on in the thread someone will say "heh, tendies are triggered" despite the thread being made to shit on them>they'll reply to themself with something like Palworld and then reply to themselves pretending to be butthurt tendies to gather evidenceNow I haven't read more than the first 10 posts so far so I don't know if it actually did play out like this so I can't wait to see if the pattern holds.
>>729403189>see enemies>press button three times>no more enemieswooooow so hard
