France has surpassed Japan
>>729387654retard
>The fRPG is defined by ripping off FFXGrim. Imagine if the foundation of the jrpg were literally just Ultima-likes.
>>729388070nigga who caregame fun
JRPG's were being held back by anime, France has perfected the art.
>>729387654>gaslit shilled nepobabby trashFrogs lost
>>729387654>>729389951>thirdie and anglo faggots trying to stir shit despite the French being the biggest weebs
>>729387654I'm not sure why they are forcing that FRPG narrative when it's just Sandfall doing their own turn-based game with a twist. It's not even a trend currently (maybe in the future?).
Japan needs a good ass kicking to remind themselves that they need to make games people want, not what Californians want
>reposting "news articles" by people who don't play video gamesI just want you to know you are the reason gg happened and as a result the enshitification of /v/
>>729389542No, it's not, you faggot.
>>729387654AI (actual indians) usedGOTY lostrip in piss bozo
>>729390195the devs hate japan and shit on their games every interview
>>729387654I don't think so. We benefit from each other, this is how the cultural relationships between Japan and France have worked for a long time. I am glad France has been able to deliver such a great JRPG and I hope it will inspire japanese devs to do better
>>729390551>Source: I made that up
>>729390549Good morning saar
People like JRPG, they just dont like the weaboo anime crap that comes with it 99% of the time
>>729390954Thats part of the charm nigger, what people dont like is US West Coast faggots fucking up the localization and making everything cringe
>>729387654>France has surpassed JapanIn what way? Making a gayer game in the gayest genre in video game history? I don't think even that shit is able to surpass the sheer faggotry of something like FF7, so Japan is still the queen of fujos and homos everywhere.
>>729387654it's not hard to beat califorpan. they're still good for anime and series. but for video games… it's a major decline.
>>729391081>fucking up the localization and making everything cringethat's just nip writing, translation or notthey're a socially impaired people, they can't even fuck each other anymore
>one game is successful>OMG NEW GENREbut there's literally 0 new French rpg coming soon that looks promising.
>>729391081I wasnt aware localization was also in charge of art style, anime grunts, and general bad writing as a whole that dictates shitty JRPG plots. E33 sidestepped all of that
>>729388070JRPGs were literally born as a consequence of the success of the Ultima games, it really doesn't matter who started what.
>>729387654>Hideo & Kojiman be like "we created a new strand type shit", and it's actually a walking simulator>A ragtag team of french vibe coders make the first ever FRPG on a couple thousand dollars and cheap wine thanks to AIJapan eternally blown the fuck out
>>729391228>art styleLove it>anime gruntsyou have autism>bad writingthats a problem with gaming as a whole, not just limited to JRPGsAt least with some JRPGs like Kingdom Hearts or Xenoblade you can down a couple beers and have a good laugh
>>729387654no
>THE NEW ERA OF RPGS HAS ARRIVED>it's final fantasy with parries>it's dungeons and dragons with faggots>it's GTA ripoff that pretends to be a RPG>it's skyrim but somehow the engine is worse>it's fromsoft game>it's literally just diablo 2I am dead serious that RPGs are about to stagnate as much as boomer shooters. The only way the genre can advance at this point is when they put an AI model to make characters talk and act in non-preprogrammed ways and give natural answers to whatever player asks for, but that's gonna make 41% of the game audience ack themselves.
Figures it took white men to perfect the JRPG genre.
>>729390954Tell me you're american without telling me.
>>729387654CLEA IS SO HOT AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>729390551>Final Fantasy is our inspiration and we think sakaguchi is the goat>the devs hate japan and their games
>>729391470one would expect a puppet master to understand it's puppet better than anyone else
>>729388070>Imagine if the foundation of the jrpg were literally just Ultima-likes.They are, but while the Ultima games were good, jrpgs are made explicitly for manchildren. That's the problem with 99% of japanese games. They're stuck making NES and SNES games for kids, but with modern graphics.
Another victory for the west
>another thread filled with butt-devastated nipshits
>>729391572(You) certainly don't understand grammar instead. Any other user would have called you indian with the saar joke for that.
>>729387654A success to inspire "ceux qui viendront après".
>>729387654>JRPG without the animeWe are watching the soul of the genre being extracted in real time. I hate normalfags so much its unreal
>>729391705begone newfag
>>729391780why don't you take your anger on japanese devs who are taking the jrpg out of the anime?
>>729391691>>729391639very organic
>>729391840do you realize half of the anime nowadays is just animated generic JRPG>achcksckhhually it's called an "isekai"the truck changes nothing
>>729390401but it is though
>>729391994i'm talking about games
>>729391320Eh. I mean Ultima is definitely influential I just think Wizardry is specifically the game that made JRPGs happen. Akalabeth or Ultima 1 weren't anywhere near as big as Wizardry was in Japan.
>>729391625True. We need to get them making modern games for a modern audience.
>>729390954yeah that's the reason I only play old jrpgs, the modern stuff is unplayable cringe garbage>>729391081>Thats part of the charm niggerno
>>729388070How old are you? The basis of JRPGs is the Wizardry series, which is why a Japanese company bought the rights to the series after the West stopped caring about it.
>>729391780anime is soulless
>>729387654>fRPGFrapage
>>729392184Dragon Quest is very explicitly Ultima + Wizardry.
>>729394792Theres hardly anything Ultima about it. JRPGs just don't pay homage to ultima.
>>729387654Of course it's superior, it was produced by white men.
>>729391625>NOOOO YOU CAN'T REMIND PEOPLE THAT GRORIOUS NIPPON DIDN'T CREATE RPGs!!!!!
>>729387654>AI generated
>>729390954E33 is for straight men who like younger women
>>729391842Japan might be based on their love of waifus that doesn't mean they didn't steal gameplay ideas from the West.
>>729390954The weeaboo anime crap is what makes JRPGs so good.
never underestimate the europoor's ability to punish success and regulate themselves to death
>E33 Devs: WE LOVE JRPGS>E33 fans: WELL WE DON'T
>>729398349Yeah right I've seen the "swimsuit"
>>729399849How did this happen?
>>729399987I don't know. I like JRPGs AND E33. I also liked FFXVI! I must be a fucking enigma.
>>729399987>normalfags hate thing they do not understandWhoa!?
>>729387654>mogged by china in gachas>mogged by france in rpgswhat's left for nipon?
>>729399987>Turnbased, top>Turnbased with shitty ddr mechanics, bottom
>>729396179The exploration that makes DQ more than a rote dungeon crawler is Ultima.
>>729387654It was always a French RPG. JRPG means JAPANESE ROLE PLAYING GAME. You can't have a Japanese game made in France for the same reason you can't have a Martian game made on Earth.
>>729400251You didn't play it
Damn it feels good being superior
>>729400379Why would I turnbased jrpgs are trash and I'm not retarded.Cringe ass young-adults complaining about their feelings before more X X X BONUS PERFECT FIRE DAMAGE YOURE A COOL FELLA
>>729400335JRPG exists as a term to denote it as a genre, not as an origin. When Japanese consoles reigned over computer games, we just called them "RPGs." Then Oblivion came out and changed the conversation.
>>729400447EU != Europe
In paying pajeets for marketing, sure.
>>729387654The French just stole the Marche Ending from Final Fantasy Tactics
>>729390954the only people that like JRPGs like pulp media, such as animeThe people who try and say otherwise are the eternally embarrassing "reformed weebs" who never actually engage with anything beyond the surface level and constantly worry about their non-existent public image while doing nothing but proving their own retardation
>>729400594I thought they were just recycling the animus from assassin's creed
>>729387654>AI slop
>>729390954E33 is still surpassed by a handful of "weeaboo anime crap" games. Off the top of my head, Xenoblade 1 and X, Dragon Quest XI, Octopath Traveler II, SMT Nocturne, SMTV, and Chrono Trigger are better. I'm not even saying E33 isn't excellent, I'm saying that it's not surpassing the best of the genre.
@729400471I was going to respond but>Then Oblivion came out and changed the conversationconvinced me you're just baiting for (You)s
>>729400616The average seasonal anime is a million times better than your average JRPG.
>>729400581I agree >>729399987
>>729387654It's one game. It's too soon to say anything yet, anon.
>>729388070>ripping off FFXat least say a pre-X FF game next time so you can keep up the illusion that you have any fucking idea what you're talking about when it comes to E33, dumb shitskin
>>729400335It's a French JRPG-like game.
>>729390954>people like jrpg, they just hate heterosexualitymakes sense from a western perspective
>>729400471Wrong but your head is in the right place. There were PC games and there were Console games. JRPG was used to define specifically CONSOLE RPGs that the JAPANESE made. It is inseparable from the JAPANESE-ness now. If it's not JAPANESE then it is not a JRPG.The people that made it are more important than anything else. It's like saying you're a Russian author just because you studied Russian literature.You can be influenced by the JRPG but you are not a JRPG just because you copied their homework.
>>729391780It's purposeful humiliation ritual. This was planned by the upper degrees years in advance.
>>729400784Before 2017 or so maybe. Isekai ruined anime.
>>729387654I hate franks but when they stop being horny freaks they make good entertainment
>>729387654a month later and the endless seethe over the sw33p rages on
>>729390954Anime > Hollywood > Gay European movies
>>729400784Visual Novels > Manga > Light Novels > JRPG > Anime
>>729400934YRPG is the correct term.
>>729401207Explain?
>>7294010842/10Light novels in that spot makes it too obvious.
>>729401035we are exactly 2 weeks past the game awards and the seethe has not even slowed down a little bit, it's incredible
>France makes one (1) decent game>"Holy fuck! It's LE OVER for the Japs!"Not falling for this shit again. Didn't you guys try pulling this same shit with China and their games? And all they make is gachaslop and souls clones.
>>729401247YIIK-like RPG.
>>729401345china has the best games though>buh buh buh gachastill the best game, cope
>>729401352How putrid. I despise the way your evil mind works. I did chuckle in my head.
>>729401345japan hasn't made any good games in years
it is so fucking funny how mad this game makes final fantasy fans.
>>729400934You don't actually understand the origin of the term.>It's like saying you're a Russian author just because you studied Russian literature.No, it's like saying you made french fries or a belgian waffle.
>>729401280A good portion of the best manga are just adaptations of light novels. It's far easier to get slop because the barrier to entry is a lot lower than the other mediums, but it also allows for talent that would otherwise be blocked from success to shine.
Japan got mogged by French BWC
>>729401647france was never white
This could be us, but you choose to be grumpy instead
>>729400471>JRPG exists as a term to denote it as a genreif star ocean is the same genre as dragon quest then tes and diablo are crpgs
>>729401758Clea is best girl. It's not even particularly close.Clea >>>> Sciel >>> Lune > Maelle
How many of these people who apparently hate JRPGs and LOVE E33 even did the extra content after the ending?
>>729401798tes = wrpgdialbo = crpg OR real-time "roguelike" based on the old definitions.It all depends how far away from dungeons and dragons you are. Ironically JRPGs are closer to dungeons and dragons than any western form of RPG in the truest sense of crawling around dungeons and spamming attacks for 14 hours.Modern dungeons and dragons is actually just an immersive sim.
>>729402393I did everything up to Simon which i just cheesed because i just didn't have the patience to learn to parry all his comboes, every fight after that was too much for me and i just went into ng+ instead
JRPG =/= Turn-based RPGDark Souls is a JRPGXenoblade Chronicles X is a JRPGUndertale is a Turn-based RPGExpedition 33 is a Turn-based RPG.
>>729402063Eldest sisters will always be god tier, both in fiction and in real life.
>>729402996Imouto > onee-chan
>>729402893>Dark Souls is a JRPGstopped reading there. no it isn't you ignorant fucking faggot. nobody who actually plays JRPG's feels this way, slash your fucking wrists
>>729403126I don't care how you feel, it's the truth.
>>729403210no actually if you don't play a genre then your opinion on the terminology people use regarding it is irrelevant. neck yourself.
>>729403120How can one man be so objectively wrong?
>>729403321I'm an avid JRPG player and have been since I could read. Dragon Quest, Xeno-, Tales of, Pokemon, Paper Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Ys, you name it. JRPG =/= turn-based. Tales of Vesperia is a JRPG, but there are no turns in it. The same is true of many modern JRPG games. Xenoblade, Final Fantasy XV, etc.
>>729403551yes jrpg does not mean turn-based, but it also doesn't mean literaly any rpg made in japan you dumb nigger. dark souls isn't a fucking jrpg. E33 IS a jrpg. stay seething about it faggot