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France has surpassed Japan
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>>729387654
retard
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>The fRPG is defined by ripping off FFX
Grim. Imagine if the foundation of the jrpg were literally just Ultima-likes.
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>>729388070
nigga who care
game fun
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JRPG's were being held back by anime, France has perfected the art.
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>>729387654
>gaslit shilled nepobabby trash
Frogs lost
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>>729387654
>>729389951
>thirdie and anglo faggots trying to stir shit despite the French being the biggest weebs
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>>729387654
I'm not sure why they are forcing that FRPG narrative when it's just Sandfall doing their own turn-based game with a twist. It's not even a trend currently (maybe in the future?).
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Japan needs a good ass kicking to remind themselves that they need to make games people want, not what Californians want
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>reposting "news articles" by people who don't play video games
I just want you to know you are the reason gg happened and as a result the enshitification of /v/
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>>729389542
No, it's not, you faggot.
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>>729387654
AI (actual indians) used
GOTY lost
rip in piss bozo
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>>729390195
the devs hate japan and shit on their games every interview
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>>729387654
I don't think so. We benefit from each other, this is how the cultural relationships between Japan and France have worked for a long time.
I am glad France has been able to deliver such a great JRPG and I hope it will inspire japanese devs to do better
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>>729390551
>Source: I made that up
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>>729390549
Good morning saar
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People like JRPG, they just dont like the weaboo anime crap that comes with it 99% of the time
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>>729390954
Thats part of the charm nigger, what people dont like is US West Coast faggots fucking up the localization and making everything cringe
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>>729387654
>France has surpassed Japan
In what way? Making a gayer game in the gayest genre in video game history? I don't think even that shit is able to surpass the sheer faggotry of something like FF7, so Japan is still the queen of fujos and homos everywhere.
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>>729387654
it's not hard to beat califorpan. they're still good for anime and series. but for video games… it's a major decline.
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>>729391081
>fucking up the localization and making everything cringe
that's just nip writing, translation or not
they're a socially impaired people, they can't even fuck each other anymore
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>one game is successful
>OMG NEW GENRE
but there's literally 0 new French rpg coming soon that looks promising.
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>>729391081
I wasnt aware localization was also in charge of art style, anime grunts, and general bad writing as a whole that dictates shitty JRPG plots. E33 sidestepped all of that
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>>729388070
JRPGs were literally born as a consequence of the success of the Ultima games, it really doesn't matter who started what.
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>>729387654
>Hideo & Kojiman be like "we created a new strand type shit", and it's actually a walking simulator
>A ragtag team of french vibe coders make the first ever FRPG on a couple thousand dollars and cheap wine thanks to AI
Japan eternally blown the fuck out
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>>729391228
>art style
Love it
>anime grunts
you have autism
>bad writing
thats a problem with gaming as a whole, not just limited to JRPGs
At least with some JRPGs like Kingdom Hearts or Xenoblade you can down a couple beers and have a good laugh
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>>729387654
no
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>THE NEW ERA OF RPGS HAS ARRIVED

>it's final fantasy with parries
>it's dungeons and dragons with faggots
>it's GTA ripoff that pretends to be a RPG
>it's skyrim but somehow the engine is worse
>it's fromsoft game
>it's literally just diablo 2

I am dead serious that RPGs are about to stagnate as much as boomer shooters. The only way the genre can advance at this point is when they put an AI model to make characters talk and act in non-preprogrammed ways and give natural answers to whatever player asks for, but that's gonna make 41% of the game audience ack themselves.
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Figures it took white men to perfect the JRPG genre.
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>>729390954
Tell me you're american without telling me.
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>>729387654
CLEA IS SO HOT AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>729390551
>Final Fantasy is our inspiration and we think sakaguchi is the goat
>the devs hate japan and their games
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>>729391470
one would expect a puppet master to understand it's puppet better than anyone else
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>>729388070
>Imagine if the foundation of the jrpg were literally just Ultima-likes.
They are, but while the Ultima games were good, jrpgs are made explicitly for manchildren. That's the problem with 99% of japanese games. They're stuck making NES and SNES games for kids, but with modern graphics.
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Another victory for the west
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>another thread filled with butt-devastated nipshits
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>>729391572
(You) certainly don't understand grammar instead. Any other user would have called you indian with the saar joke for that.
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>>729387654
A success to inspire "ceux qui viendront après".
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>>729387654
>JRPG without the anime
We are watching the soul of the genre being extracted in real time. I hate normalfags so much its unreal
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>>729391705
begone newfag
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>>729391780
why don't you take your anger on japanese devs who are taking the jrpg out of the anime?
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>>729391691
>>729391639
very organic
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>>729391840
do you realize half of the anime nowadays is just animated generic JRPG

>achcksckhhually it's called an "isekai"
the truck changes nothing
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>>729390401
but it is though
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>>729391994
i'm talking about games
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>>729391320
Eh. I mean Ultima is definitely influential I just think Wizardry is specifically the game that made JRPGs happen. Akalabeth or Ultima 1 weren't anywhere near as big as Wizardry was in Japan.
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>>729391625
True. We need to get them making modern games for a modern audience.
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>>729390954
yeah that's the reason I only play old jrpgs, the modern stuff is unplayable cringe garbage
>>729391081
>Thats part of the charm nigger
no
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>>729388070
How old are you? The basis of JRPGs is the Wizardry series, which is why a Japanese company bought the rights to the series after the West stopped caring about it.
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>>729391780
anime is soulless
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>>729387654
>fRPG
Frapage
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>>729392184
Dragon Quest is very explicitly Ultima + Wizardry.
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>>729394792
Theres hardly anything Ultima about it. JRPGs just don't pay homage to ultima.
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>>729387654
Of course it's superior, it was produced by white men.
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>>729391625
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T REMIND PEOPLE THAT GRORIOUS NIPPON DIDN'T CREATE RPGs!!!!!
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>>729387654
>AI generated
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>>729390954
E33 is for straight men who like younger women
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>>729391842
Japan might be based on their love of waifus that doesn't mean they didn't steal gameplay ideas from the West.
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>>729390954
The weeaboo anime crap is what makes JRPGs so good.
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never underestimate the europoor's ability to punish success and regulate themselves to death
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>E33 Devs: WE LOVE JRPGS
>E33 fans: WELL WE DON'T
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>>729398349
Yeah right I've seen the "swimsuit"
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>>729399849
How did this happen?
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>>729399987
I don't know. I like JRPGs AND E33. I also liked FFXVI! I must be a fucking enigma.
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>>729399987
>normalfags hate thing they do not understand
Whoa!?
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>>729387654
>mogged by china in gachas
>mogged by france in rpgs

what's left for nipon?
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>>729399987
>Turnbased, top
>Turnbased with shitty ddr mechanics, bottom
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>>729396179
The exploration that makes DQ more than a rote dungeon crawler is Ultima.
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>>729387654
It was always a French RPG. JRPG means JAPANESE ROLE PLAYING GAME. You can't have a Japanese game made in France for the same reason you can't have a Martian game made on Earth.
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>>729400251
You didn't play it
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Damn it feels good being superior
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>>729400379
Why would I turnbased jrpgs are trash and I'm not retarded.
Cringe ass young-adults complaining about their feelings before more X X X BONUS PERFECT FIRE DAMAGE YOURE A COOL FELLA
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>>729400335
JRPG exists as a term to denote it as a genre, not as an origin. When Japanese consoles reigned over computer games, we just called them "RPGs." Then Oblivion came out and changed the conversation.
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>>729400447
EU != Europe
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In paying pajeets for marketing, sure.
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>>729387654
The French just stole the Marche Ending from Final Fantasy Tactics
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>>729390954
the only people that like JRPGs like pulp media, such as anime
The people who try and say otherwise are the eternally embarrassing "reformed weebs" who never actually engage with anything beyond the surface level and constantly worry about their non-existent public image while doing nothing but proving their own retardation
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>>729400594
I thought they were just recycling the animus from assassin's creed
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>>729387654
>AI slop
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>>729390954
E33 is still surpassed by a handful of "weeaboo anime crap" games. Off the top of my head, Xenoblade 1 and X, Dragon Quest XI, Octopath Traveler II, SMT Nocturne, SMTV, and Chrono Trigger are better.

I'm not even saying E33 isn't excellent, I'm saying that it's not surpassing the best of the genre.
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@729400471
I was going to respond but
>Then Oblivion came out and changed the conversation
convinced me you're just baiting for (You)s
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>>729400616
The average seasonal anime is a million times better than your average JRPG.
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>>729400581
I agree >>729399987
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>>729387654
It's one game. It's too soon to say anything yet, anon.
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>>729388070
>ripping off FFX
at least say a pre-X FF game next time so you can keep up the illusion that you have any fucking idea what you're talking about when it comes to E33, dumb shitskin
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>>729400335
It's a French JRPG-like game.
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>>729390954
>people like jrpg, they just hate heterosexuality
makes sense from a western perspective
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>>729400471
Wrong but your head is in the right place.
There were PC games and there were Console games. JRPG was used to define specifically CONSOLE RPGs that the JAPANESE made. It is inseparable from the JAPANESE-ness now. If it's not JAPANESE then it is not a JRPG.
The people that made it are more important than anything else. It's like saying you're a Russian author just because you studied Russian literature.
You can be influenced by the JRPG but you are not a JRPG just because you copied their homework.
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>>729391780
It's purposeful humiliation ritual. This was planned by the upper degrees years in advance.
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>>729400784
Before 2017 or so maybe. Isekai ruined anime.
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>>729387654
I hate franks but when they stop being horny freaks they make good entertainment
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>>729387654
a month later and the endless seethe over the sw33p rages on
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>>729390954
Anime > Hollywood > Gay European movies
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>>729400784
Visual Novels > Manga > Light Novels > JRPG > Anime
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>>729400934
YRPG is the correct term.
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>>729401207
Explain?
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>>729401084
2/10
Light novels in that spot makes it too obvious.
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>>729401035
we are exactly 2 weeks past the game awards and the seethe has not even slowed down a little bit, it's incredible
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>France makes one (1) decent game
>"Holy fuck! It's LE OVER for the Japs!"
Not falling for this shit again. Didn't you guys try pulling this same shit with China and their games? And all they make is gachaslop and souls clones.
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>>729401247
YIIK-like RPG.
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>>729401345
china has the best games though
>buh buh buh gacha
still the best game, cope
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>>729401352
How putrid. I despise the way your evil mind works. I did chuckle in my head.
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>>729401345
japan hasn't made any good games in years
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it is so fucking funny how mad this game makes final fantasy fans.
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>>729400934
You don't actually understand the origin of the term.
>It's like saying you're a Russian author just because you studied Russian literature.
No, it's like saying you made french fries or a belgian waffle.
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>>729401280
A good portion of the best manga are just adaptations of light novels. It's far easier to get slop because the barrier to entry is a lot lower than the other mediums, but it also allows for talent that would otherwise be blocked from success to shine.
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Japan got mogged by French BWC
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>>729401647
france was never white
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This could be us, but you choose to be grumpy instead
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>>729400471
>JRPG exists as a term to denote it as a genre
if star ocean is the same genre as dragon quest then tes and diablo are crpgs
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>>729401758
Clea is best girl. It's not even particularly close.

Clea >>>> Sciel >>> Lune > Maelle
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How many of these people who apparently hate JRPGs and LOVE E33 even did the extra content after the ending?
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>>729401798
tes = wrpg
dialbo = crpg OR real-time "roguelike" based on the old definitions.
It all depends how far away from dungeons and dragons you are. Ironically JRPGs are closer to dungeons and dragons than any western form of RPG in the truest sense of crawling around dungeons and spamming attacks for 14 hours.
Modern dungeons and dragons is actually just an immersive sim.
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>>729402393
I did everything up to Simon which i just cheesed because i just didn't have the patience to learn to parry all his comboes, every fight after that was too much for me and i just went into ng+ instead
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JRPG =/= Turn-based RPG

Dark Souls is a JRPG
Xenoblade Chronicles X is a JRPG
Undertale is a Turn-based RPG
Expedition 33 is a Turn-based RPG.
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>>729402063
Eldest sisters will always be god tier, both in fiction and in real life.
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>>729402996
Imouto > onee-chan
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>>729402893
>Dark Souls is a JRPG
stopped reading there. no it isn't you ignorant fucking faggot. nobody who actually plays JRPG's feels this way, slash your fucking wrists
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>>729403126
I don't care how you feel, it's the truth.
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>>729403210
no actually if you don't play a genre then your opinion on the terminology people use regarding it is irrelevant. neck yourself.
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>>729403120
How can one man be so objectively wrong?
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>>729403321
I'm an avid JRPG player and have been since I could read. Dragon Quest, Xeno-, Tales of, Pokemon, Paper Mario, Shin Megami Tensei, Ys, you name it.

JRPG =/= turn-based. Tales of Vesperia is a JRPG, but there are no turns in it. The same is true of many modern JRPG games. Xenoblade, Final Fantasy XV, etc.
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>>729403551
yes jrpg does not mean turn-based, but it also doesn't mean literaly any rpg made in japan you dumb nigger. dark souls isn't a fucking jrpg. E33 IS a jrpg. stay seething about it faggot



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