We need less of that pussy Super Broly and bring back GODly from Z in future DB games.
>dragon ball latinX
>>729391050Not canon. Also Superman mogs either version
>shitty game:I>shitty game based on anime:O
>>729391096Why do trannies hate DBZ so much?
FighterZ needed Chadao Chadai Chadai.
>>729391050>thing from my childhood good thing from now badcope and seethe
>>729391147latinx trannies love DB tho
>>729391050ZSHITly lost though while NuGODly won.
>>729391050They need a new movie where Ultra Ego Instinct Gogeta, Black Frieza and Nu Broly SSJ3 all need to team up against Super Z Broly to survive.
>>729391050>OG Broly>the faggot whose entire backstory is WAAHHH I HEARD A BABY CRYING IN THE CRIB AND GOT PTSD
>>729391207Everyone likes DBZ except leftists and troonsSo why do you hate it?
>>729391050
>>729391418I'm White. I don't watch tranime
Man I wish Super was all on the level of Super Broly.
>>729391642>tranimeOkay, newfag.
>>729391321I always thought the implication was that he could remember Goku's ki and that he associated it with the traumatic event, not that he literally remembers Goku specifically crying since that was a dub line only. I mean, it's not like he actually keeps going on about it afterwards. After he breaks Paragus' control Broly just becomes a normal psychopath.
>>729391050>broly isn't an overpowered maniac but very kind and compassionate and loves the worldI want to go back
>>729391418Z is full of muscles and manly shitThey toned it down in super to better fit modern audiences (troons)
>>729391207i have never talked to a tranny and i live in one of those jungles, but i have to admit that i have seen a couple, maybe like a dozen in my entire life
>>729391102>Superman mogs either versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk9xdV4ubgQlol not even close
>>729391050>The bad guy just sits there and just like... moves a bit and they always missI am amazed DBZ ever got popular. It has be one of the worst written, animated, and direct action cartoons ever. Shit like Batman TAS and Justice League which were random dumb cartoons have animation that looks like it has about 4-5x the budget of DBZ. Even the DBZ manga is awful. One Piece at least has the excuse that the manga is decent enough for some shonen shlock and it is just the anime that sucks. DBZ is both ways.The funniest part? DB is now at its most popular ever and yet it looks the cheapest and worst lmao. It is somehow even worse.
>729393674(You)
retarded midwits are insufferable
>>729393884Dragonball Z is so bad they had to rerelease the show to try and fix it because the animation, pacing, writing, action, and everything was so bad that people who weren't literally 10 went to watch the show and rightly called it shit.
>>729394178>literally making shit up nowthe only thing kai did was strip the excessive amount of filler episodes you contrarian subhuman shit. Final reply you're getting from me you insufferable cock sucking twat.
>>729394456Look anon, regardless of my opinion, if you're going to actually say that Kai did not rewrite, reanimate, redraw, and reedit across the series you're just objectively wrong.
>>729391050Don't know anything about DB. But how the hell do they beat broly here? Like what happens afterwards and shit
>>729394883It's a dream to show what old broly was like when he was evil before they rewrote him to be more of a character, but the OP is lamenting that an objectively evil, sadistic, crazy villain was toned down to make him more realistic.
>>729394883it's a fan edit
>>729394989Oh... lame. I thought it'd escalate to a universe exploding fight just to make him drop one drop of bloodI know broly is ridiculously OP. So how do they defeat him in the real world?
>>729391050Chadly, so extremely powerful that they refuse to make him canon.
>>729395108everybody gives their power to goku and he punches him into a scar he had as a kid. It's a bit silly but he was depicted as an unstoppable force of nature and since it was a movie there was no time for the whole train and get stronger trope.
>>729395257Wait until you learn about Turles.
>>729394769>reanimate, redrawbold claim, I'd like to see that
>>729395332Turdles a shit.
>>729395318Fair enough, thanks. Is broly only relevant in the movie
>>729394989Dude who gives a shit about "more realistic" villains in Dragon Ball? This is the series where all the major villains are crazy evil sadists. Z Broly sucks because he didn't bring anything to the table other than snappy lines and being le stronk, not because he was pure evil.
>>729395108"Defeat" is a strong word because the motherfucker keeps coming back. He's in three movies, he has additional spin-off appearances where he comes back as Broly God and Evil SS4 Broly, and Dragon Ball Super has a new canon Broly whose default Super Saiyan form puts him on the save level as Goku and Vegeta after their god power-up.The guy's whole existence is the playground shit where your friend goes "my guy is way stronger than yours", so he's never truly defeated.
>>729395489yes he was never part of the canon (until his rewrite in the Super movie). He did comback in two other movies in dbz. the second was okay but he was clearly a heavily powered down version. the third has become a meme for how bad it was and because broly just appears covered in weird ass goo the whole time.
We need less of Dragon Ball Super in general
>>729391050Second Coming is worse than Bio-Broly.Also video games.
>>729391096mamma mia
>>729395525OG Broly is hands down the best Dragon Ball villain, he just wants to kill and that's it, is kino.
>>729395531was a long time but isn't he technically dead in the second movie? I believe bio broly is just created in a lab from his dna (hence the name)
>>729395736Cooler is cooler
>>729395790Cooler is cool too.
>>729395712There is literally not a single DBZ movie that is worse than Bio-Broly.
>>729395880Resurrection of F is much worse.
>>729395939not dbz and no it's not worse
>>729395880The one where they fight some gremlin guy that grows big or the one where they fight a robot.
>>729395749>isn't he technically dead in the second movieNot until the end>Bio-BrolyThat's the third movie
>>729395971>not dbzWay to out yourself Bejitatard.
>>729396082>That's the third movieI know, I'm saying he is dead in the second movie when they nuke him into the sun then he get rezed in bio broly
>>729395108>>729395318It's not as simple as just a punch, Goku basically ignites Broly's ki and he explodes internally incapacitating him.
>>729396183it's from the Super canon, it's not dbz.
>>729396042Both of those are better than Bio-Broly because they are from the days where DBZ still had fight choreography beyond warping around shooting lasers at each other.Bio-Broly is literally Trunks, Goten, and Krillin vs dollar store goo Broly who has even less personality than Second Comings' "raaaaaahr Kakaroooot" abortion. Nobody wants to see that.
>>729396325Super canon only starts with the Super TV show, Battle of Gods and Ressurrection F are DBZ movies
>>729396042I know this is bait, but it still angers me.
Was there ever a game where Bio-Broly was playable?
>>729391321>dubfags are still parroting this gross mistranslation of the original script 20 years later
>>729396516enlighten us, subchad.
ENTER
>>729396584>the gang throws down with a bunch of gypsy pirates
>>729396395they've officially been made part of the Super canon, they have of dbz only the name.
>>729396401https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkNsNKgSvAY
>>729396580The original line wasn't much deeper but it essentially boiled down to baby Broly responding aggressively to Goku's latent powerlevel (hinting that he's the true legendary super saiyan)
>>729391050kek based and canon
>>729391321Actually it's because Captain Cock touched him with his dende.
>>729394989>realisticnigger what? these guys are alien monkeys with super powers that can fly and power up to get more strength out of thin air. are you genuinely retarded?
>>729396645Stronger than perfect Cell BTW
>>729396705>>729391321Both of these are wrong and gay. Broly associates Goku crying with him being stabbed as a baby.
>>729395531>>729395632Lmfao how the hell do they beat him if always comes back even stronger? Who's he aligned with? How does he keep showing up? How many power ups does goku go through just to defeat this one dude. Is he stronger than beerus?
>>729394883Also, can someone explain a bit when goku went from a monkey kid with a tail riding a cloud to what goku is today? When did the glow up happen? Are any characters from his kid era still relevant? Who is mr satan? I've only seen him within the context of goku being a kid
>>729396908s-stabbed where?
>>729397080https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2HNI-Y21Fs
>>729391418Whenever i think of super generic anime. DB is the first i think of lol. I've always been like that. I also hate toriyama face. Everyone looks the same. Imagine my shock when i looked up dbz fighterz roster and there was like 90% gokus lol
>>729396942He only comes back once after Goku pops his body and KOs him. The second time we see him, he has severe brain damage and then he gets yeeted into the sun and dies.The 'third time' we see him, he is a failed clone who degenerates into goo.
>>729396848the entire squad gets one shot once gohan goes ss2they are cell jr level
>>729397058What if a rat was BETRAYED and TRAPPED inside the rat containment chamber for 1000 years.
>>729396942he comes back weaker actually>How many power ups does goku go through just to defeat this one dudenone, he only fight him once>Is he stronger than beerus?potentially yeah, his power level (in the first movie, at least) grows indefinitely while he fights (this is confirmed in his version of Super)
>>729397210Kek alright. Way to bring him back desu
>>729397058why are you pretending not to know the series
>>729397245goku gets a big dick powerup to beat broly because they ass pull everyone giving goku their energywhich shouldnt even work because everyone is exhausted and ass kicked
We need more android 21
>>729397234Kek. Goku would get one shot
>>729397343i meant he didn't get a permanent power up like a new transformation
Bra>Everyone else
>>729397245Alright thanks. Years of wondering finally enlightened
>>729397343The way I understand Broly's defeat in the first movie is that Broly's body overproduces ki which requires him to consistently fire off energy in order to not overload and explode. Goku strikes him using everyone's remaining energy, poking a hole in Broly's body which then causes his overflowing ki to essentially explode his body by forcing its way out through the hole in his flesh.
>>729397332All i know is the very little shit of some still frames here and there + gifs. The most db content i've consumed is oneyNG's vid of it from back in the day. Also the times penguinz0 talks about it
>>729391321>BEASTly was so fucking EVIL he held a grudge from the maternity wardFVARK. what a VILLAIN
>>729397058>>729396942>>729395108>>729394883>>729397467That's a lot of Gokubros...
>>729397343That's not how it works, remember Super Saiyan is multiplicative not additive. It wasn't just pure damage that beat Broly either, he did the "you are already dead" thing to a transformation that was explosively unstable. It's hardly good writing, but the justification is there.
>>729397458Unprotected sex with BraBra pregnancyBra marriageall while bejita watches.
/dbs/ was a special place before the jannies finally killed it to make room for yet another moetrash yuritroon thread.
>>729394989Broly was evil and sadistic because he got fucking stabbed as a kid and let's out a blood curdling scream and then associates that memory with Kakarots screaming. Nu-Dragonball wishes it could have some that visceral happen to cause a character to go insane. No way on Earth they'd ever have the balls to do that again.
>>729397584Wth does that mean?
>>729391642>>729397058>can someone explain a bit when goku went from a monkey kid with a tail riding a cloud to what goku is today?He litteraly just grew up. Db takes place over the course of his entire life
>>729395880>>729396363Bio-Broly isn't even Broly. The movie ends with Goku and Pikkon about to jump down to Hell to fight the real Broly because he's causing a ruckus down there.Not only is the lobotomite from Second Coming supposed to be Broly, but that excuse of a movie permanently stained Z-Broly as a character by ignoring everything from his backstory except MUH CRYING KAKAROT, making KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOT 95% of his dialogue despite him being chatty during the first movie, and somehow getting this retardation to be his go-to characterization for literal decades.I don't care how unpopular Bio-Broly is, I will always hate Second Coming more.
>>729397058>Also, can someone explain a bit when goku went from a monkey kid with a tail riding a cloud to what goku is today? When did the glow up happen?The King Piccolo arc was when Dragon Ball started becoming more serious, and the Saiyan arc was when Goku was revealed to be an alien and things became less fantasy and more sci-fi, until the Buu arc settled somewhere halfway.>Are any characters from his kid era still relevant?Pretty much the whole gang except Launch still make regular appearances, and Bulma's pretty much always relevant.>Who is mr satan?World Martial Arts champion who won the tournament during the three years the Z-Fighters were too busy training for the Androids to compete, let it go to his head and was thoroughly convinced that he actually was the strongest martial artist on Earth, entered the Cell Games after bragging that he would kill Cell, was defeated in one hit, stole the credit when Gohan killed Cell (it's cool, Gohan got payback by fucking Mr. Satan's daughter), gained a reputation as a hero that he didn't deserve, and ultimately became a hero for real by befriending Fat Buu and using his reputation to convince everyone on Earth to send energy for Goku's Spirit Bomb to kill Kid Buu. Now he's basically the guy who the Z-Fighters allow to take the credit for their victories because they aren't in it for the fame.
>>729397780Is anything from his childhood still relevant? Like his cloud ride, or mr satan? Where's his tail?
>>729397860Kek what a guy
>>729397347
>>729397901>Like his cloud rideIt still pops up from time to time.>Where's his tail?Kami permanently removed it when Goku was training with him, so he could restore the moon without having to worry about Goku going apeshit again.
>>729398053So that's why. Thanks.
>>729397826He's screaming about Kakarot in that movie because he is not thinking clearly and remembers adult Goku, anon. He didn't get a new voice actor because Japan respects VA work, so they reused lines. And that's not his characterisation going forward either, all the games lean heavily into the MY SKIN IS COLD version.
>>729397901Mr. Satan first appears when Goku is a grown man with a child and a pregnant wife. Hes a joke character whos only really relevant in the last arc of the show
>>729397901The tail sort of comes to play in Dragon Ball GT. It's a crucial step to unlocking Super Saiyan 4.
I thought teen Videl with twin tails is way hotter than prime 18, and definitely any girl from Super
>>729391102Superman was mogged by Goku all the way back during The Cell games lol.
>>729398187>>729398315Thanks guys
>>729397901Mr Satan is not part of Goku's childhood, the cloud got power creeped to hell guess is parked at kame house now, his tail is amputated, but it can grow back if he goes SS4.MR Satan is underrated, he is the (second) strongest human in existence, stronger than Tao Pai Pai, krillin is not human because he doesn't have a nose, neither is the other freak with the third eye or his mini boyfriend, only Roshi is stronger.
>>729391147>Too old and iconic to get co-opted by trannies>Muh testosterone, trannies don't like manly men fighting>There are no characters that appeal to faggots, and the canonically gay characters are homophobic stereotypes>Full of jokes that the average tranny would hate.
That one Garlic Jr movie is unironically the best DBZ movie.
>MUTTly
>>729398462She was also pretty hot in Battle of Gods.
How can they make him canon and threatening in a post black Frieza DBS
>>729391141dragon ball is the only anime that gets good games
>>729398658She's OK, past her Early Majin Era prime
>>729398702Trap and betray him for 10000 years.
>>729398801But she has literal baby making hips.
>>729398497Thanks. Also if krillin isn't human, what is he? I thought he was the strongest human
>>729391102>SupermanIs a jew self-insert power fantasy.
>>729397972Wife
>>729398702>does one pushup>becomes cooler platinum>1000x stronger than Frieza black>still gets one shot by Beerus
>>729398847>Also if krillin isn't human, what is he?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krillin>Species: Human
>>7293989485th form Cooler is way fucking better than the retarded Gold/Black recolors Frieza got
>>729398702just make base cooler but stronger, TRANSformations are gay
>>729398497so you are making shit up now?
>>729399034That's literally what they did with DBS BrolyNon Super Saiyan Broly was somehow as strong as SSG Goku/Vegeta despite being stranded on a random planet for his entire life
>Saiyans
>AAAAAIEEE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP-SAMA YOU’VE DEFEATED M-ME!!!!what a cringe villain lol.
>>729398956Alright. Then who's kami? I thought shenron was god of the dbz universe. Are they still collecting the dragon balls to fulfill their wishes or has that aspect been sidelined?
>>729399034Frieza, get off 4Chan and train already. Maybe then you'll surpass your brother.
>>729397131>todd howard handling an average sized rat.webm
>>729397458not even the best GT girl
>>729399440kekKami is the Guardian of Earth. They've added like 5 layers of pantheons above him. He's like the personal god of Earth, and then there is a god of the quadrant of the galaxy, a god of the entire galaxy, a god of the entire universe, a god of the multiverse, etc.
>>729399672
>>729399657holy crap this brat is so annoying
Say hi to the best and strongest DB character
>>729399657What does Saiyan milk taste like?
>>729391050his power is maximum
>>729398702Take a page from Heroes and just stack 5th Form with Black.Then have him and Frieza massively dunk on the Saiyans (and Piccolo) by using the ultimate forbidden technique: teamwork.The might of Bros Attacks is not to be trifled with.
Vros, i found an infinite amount of dragon ballz
>>729399964monkey piss
>>729391050BROLY IS THE DEVIL
So how many of the cast are useful outside of goku and vegeta? All i've seen is those two fight the bad guys while the rest watches
>CHADGON CHAD CHADGON CHAD CHADGON CHAD Buck broken lil SHITper the RAPED BITCH
Frieza should've gotten Coola's 5th transformation instead of yet another recolor.
>>729400280Gohan and Piccolo sometimes get some crumbs.Nobody else even get that.
>>729391642I'm white and I do watch anime, a lot of it, so race has nothing to do with it..
>>729400364forgot to add that I'm straight and not trans
>>729400351Lol alright. So what do they do? Like overall
>>729400280most of them were only useful in classic db
>>729400481Piccolo babysits for Goku and eventually Gohan.
>>729400280Bejita is NOT useful
>>729400536>>729400576Kek alright thanks>>729400613He's the king of jobbers isn't he? All i know is he cries for goku to save everyone or some shitAlso what's with all those weird names? Like where tf does bejita come from?>>729400445
>>729400280Krillin did a LOT of work pre-Buu saga.
>>729400613Vegeta is very important for demonstrating to the audience that the villain is a bad dude by having them beat the shit out of Vegeta so that when Goku kicks their ass, it makes Goku look cooler.
>>729400280Bulma and her father are always useful since they can bullshit whatever mcguffin the plot needs to facilitate itself.
Bring my nigga back
>>729400351>Gohan only gets crumbs because he's literally POTENTIAL MAN>Piccolo only gets crumbs because he's Toriyama's favorite character
>>729400280At the point the series left off Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, and Broly are the strongest protags and all roughly the same strength in their strongest forms, though Gohan is probably a bit higher than the rest. Piccolo has a new transformation that puts him really strong as well but not to the level of those others though he shouldn't be too far off from them to the point he's useless.Goten and Trunks are comic relief shittersKrillin/Tien/Roshi are uselessBuu could be helpful but is generally useless18 is in between the humans and Buu. 17 is strong but has gotten left behind by the main cast in terms of strength. Probably stronger than Buu but way weaker than PiccoloUub is potential man
>>729400481Piccolo usually gets a power up and gets to be the strongest in the cast for a couple episodes before the villain powers up even more and Goku has step in.Gohan actually beats Cell, so that should put him above Vegeta in terms of being useful throughout the series.
>>729400748That's true, if the little gutless simp had the balls to destroy Android 18, Cell wouldn't have become perfect and killed Goku. Nice work, baldy.
>>729400280Future Trunks would still be relevant if Super didn't turn him into a gay time cop. He was a hybrid like Gohan but unlike him Trunks took fighting seriously.
>>729400871But if he did do that he wouldn't have gotten laid.
>>729400748When was that relevant? Like 20 years ago?
>Cooler comes back after frieza negro gets fucked by the power of friendship>tsk tsk tsk little brother still too weak too feeble let me show you TRUE POWER>*Goes into his final form but with a chrome metallic silver*>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYXEJJvE68
>>729399440>Then who's kami? I thought shenron was god of the dbz universeKami is Earth's God, and creator of the Dragon Balls and Shenron. Lemme try to explain it for you.>Kami and King Piccolo were originally one being, a Namekian sent to Earth as a child>that nameless Namekian split himself into his good and evil halves>the good half inherited the position of Earth's God, and became Kami>the evil half became the Demon King Piccolo and unleashed terror on the world until he was sealed away>after that Kami created the Dragon Balls to give people hope>fast forward about three hundred years>Emperor Pilaf finds and unseals King Piccolo, hoping that he'll help Pilaf and his cronies conquer the world>unsurprisingly, the face-eating leopard eats Pilaf's face, and King Piccolo decides to conquer the world himself>spawns several sons to be his minions, wishes for eternal youth, kills Shenron and anyone who might be able to seal him again >Goku eventually kills him and his minions but he spawns one last son to get revenge >which also saves Kami because he and Piccolo share a life link (and Kami rezzes Shenron)>Piccolo Jr. goes on to become the one everyone knows best, starts off as a villain before befriending Goku's son>eventually Piccolo and Kami fuse back together into the nameless Namekian, who keeps calling himself Piccolo for convenience's sake>but because the Dragon Balls were created by Kami specifically and not the nameless Namekian, they don't work anymore>Goku brings in a Namekian kid called Dende (who first appears in the Namek arc) to be the new Kami (and upgrade Earth's Dragon Balls to grant three wishes like Namek's)And Kami is nowhere near the top of the divine hierarchy. This pic should explain the whole hierarchy for you.>Are they still collecting the dragon balls to fulfill their wishes or has that aspect been sidelined?The whole Dragon Ball hunt thing was kind of sidelined after the Namek Saga, they're often just a handy reset button.
>>729400904>if Super didn't turn him into a gay time cop.Xenoverse=/=SuperXenoverse is its known series, bro.
>>729391147I'm a tranny and I like dragon ball
>>729400280>All i've seen is those two fight the bad guys while the rest watchesin the cuckchair?
>>729400904He's not a time cop in Super.But he should have come to the main timeline with Future Mai and been relevant going forward, rather than going to a copy of their destroyed timeline that already has Future Trunks and Mai of their own.
>>729400871But if he did that then Gohan would never have had his GOAT moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OZ-yNdKw3o
>>729400782Never ever, now his father and mother sure they can come back
>>729401102>Team Four Shart
>>729400989>android 21 appears and eats him in front of our heroeswhat now?
>>729401224You can't eat chrome stupid
>>729398179Why would he get a new voice actor? Shimada's still alive.
>>729400771No idea who her father is. Don't even think i've ever seen him. Never understood how bulma and the rest of thr girls are relevant. I know bulma is vegetas wife but that's about it. No idea where the androids came from or how they're as powerful as saiyans and shit
>>729401224>Xenoverse 2 OC appears and kills her.
>>729401224Tell her to return to fighterz.
>>729401046I'm a bejitard btw
My HEROES!!!
>>729400280Dragon Ball isn't like other shonen. The cast is tight, especially on the antagonist side with few exceptions. It doesn't really make an effort to find something for everyone to do.
>>729400829Gohan stronger than the rest? No kidding. Didn't expect that. Figured goku would be the strongest always
>>729400859Thanks>>729400904
Broly was my favorite DBZ character and I think DBS Broly is cool and about as good a rendition of the character as you can get outside the movies. Hi ikari mode is one of the best forms in the series and it hearkening back to the ozaru and beastial saiyans makes more sense than the legendary SSJ stuff.
>>729401224Kai of time appears and slap her to death with her massive tits of time.
>>729401315>No idea where the androids came from or how they're as powerful as saiyans and shitIt's basically a retcon cause the guy who created the androids, Dr Gero, didn't exist in the original DB.But it is funny to think that a scientist who is mad that Kid Goku, who had a power level of like 260, beat the Red Ribbon Army, that he made some cybernetic enhancements to regular humans and they became stronger than super saiyan adult Goku who beat Frieza, the strongest in the universe(at the time)A bit overkill honestly
>>729400904"Future" trunks? So there's time travelling shit in the shows too?
>>729400997If you think about how strong fused Piccolo is, it would have been doomsday for Earth if the nameless namekian was a bad guy from the start.
>>729401315Bulma's father is Dr. Briefs they're relevant because they can invent literally anything
My hero.
>>729401425Gohan has a new form that is basically "Hey, remember when he went Super Saiyan 2 for the first time? Wasn't that really cool? Let's run it back!"
>>729401561Parallel timelines, technically.
>>729400445Same here, however I have a soul. You must be ginger if you hate anime
>>729401256he would no longer be metallic; he would be transformed into a delicious candy made for her belly
>>729396584>>729396848>>729401213Holy shit it's Ganondorf.
>>729391050https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stspHS6f2C4
>>729391321Always thought that was kino. It's so stupid that it goes back around to being ludo
>>729401561Vegeta's son comes back in time to style on Frieza as a mysterious stranger with a cool sword and warn the boys about the upcoming threat of the androids.
>>729391050>gets one shot by ssj2
>>729401601>So powerful that he was banned from fighting to give the bad guys a chanceFUUUUUUUAAAARK
>>729401558>But it is funny to think that a scientist who is mad that Kid Goku, who had a power level of like 260, beat the Red Ribbon Army, that he made some cybernetic enhancements to regular humans and they became stronger than super saiyan adult Goku who beat Frieza, the strongest in the universe(at the time)Gero was mad that his son died for nothing. And yes, I know Goku didn't actually kill the guy himself, but he did enough that a man like Gero could convince himself that Goku was still solely to blame, even though he and his son both worked for an evil paramilitary organization with supposed ambitions to conquer the world (which would actually be better than Commander Manlet's real goal).
>>729400997Bruh alright. This shit gets convoluted. I guess that's what i get for trying to cram 40 years of dbI thought shenron was the ultimate god and shit until now lol. And had no ides piccolos story was so convoluted. Also the only things i recognize from the pic is beerus and popo
>>729401425Only marginally. Gohan got a new form in the newest arc/movie and Goku wanted to spar with him using his strongest form, they went toe to toe but Goku wasn't taking the fight super seriously and Gohan wasn't using his full strength either since he mentioned he can't control it well. When Gohan did tap into more of the power he one punched Goku out of his power up for a bit.Same thing happened when Gohan sparred against Broly. Broly couldn't control his super saiyan form but fighting against Gohan he learned how to but Gohan was still better than him.I'd say Gohan>=Goku>Vegeta>Broly, if they're all in their strongest forms, though Broly has a lot more potential and room to growOf course Frieza got a new power up that puts him above the rest by a significant margin because why not.
>>729401049Kek idk
>>729391096Nigga that is a clip from a meme channel that does meme edits like every week
>OH MAN! I JUST GOT ALL 7 DRAGON BALLS BEJITA! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!>ALMIGHTY DRAGON, REMOVE MY LIMBS AND MAKE ME BEJITA'S NUGGET BABY! AWW RIGHT! TWO MORE WISHES TO GO TOO!>DRAGON! SHRINK ME DOWN SO I CAN FIT INSIDE BEJITA-SAMAS FORESKIN AND SPHINCTER! HEHEHE! LOOK HOW TINY I AM BEJITA!>ALRIGHT DRAGON, NOW MAKE IT SO I SPEND 12 HOURS IN BEJITA'S ASS AND THEN GET TELEPORTED TO HIS FORESKIN, AND I SPEND 12 HOURS THERE TOO!>AND IT NEVER ENDS, AND NOBODY CAN REMOVE ME! ALRIGHT! AND I CAN ONLY GET SUSTENANCE FROM BEJITA'S SMEGMA AND SHIT! IM GETTING EXCITED! OH, AND GIVE CHICHI BONE CANCER!>MY WISHES GRANTED! TOO COOL SHENRON! WOW BEJITA, GUESS IT WAS FORESKIN FIRST HUH?>OH MAN ITS WARM IN HERE! AND WET! YOURE SO VIRILE BEJITA! THE SMEGMA IS LIKE SHELOBS WEB! HAHAHA! MHMM, I JUST GOTTA TASTE IT! OH MAN! LIKE BITTER CHILLI DOGS WITH AN EXTRA HELPING OF SALT! A TRUE SAIYAN BANQUET! BON APPETITE BEJITA!>MHMMFH! MHMM! IT FEELS GOOD TO KNOW CHICHI AND MY KIDS ARE BACK HOME, NOT YET SUSPECTING THE SLOW DEATH SENTENCE I JUST GAVE THEIR MOMMY! AHA! SHES PROBABLY IN PAIN AND THEYRE PANICKING WONDERING WHY!>THEYRE PROBABLY DESPERATELY TRYING TO CONTACT ME, NOT REALISING I WISHED THIS UPON THEM AND THEN MADE MYSELF YOUR MAGGOT SLAVE!>MYMMHHH! SO GOOD BEJITA! YOUR DRY CUM IS SO GOOD! I CANT WAIT TO LIVE ON IT FOREVER LIKE A PARASITE! LIKE THE LOATHSOME WORM I AM BEJITA>THIS IS MY TRUE SELF! AWW MAN! THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS WAS WANTED, BEING A CUM SHIT MAGGOT MADE TO WORSHIP YOUR BODY! TO LIVE OFF YOUR BODILY DISCHARGE IN PERPETUAL WORSHIP! AWW MAN! THE STENCH OF FISH IS JUST AMAZING!>WHAT THE? 12 HOURS ALREADY??? TIME FOR THE NIGHT SHIFT! AWW MAN IT REEKS IN HERE! FART ON ME BEJITA, I NEED TO CHOKE ON YOUR FARTS! YOUR ANUS IS MY PLANET!>YOUR BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE MY WEATHER AND MY ECOSYSTEM! SEND A NOXIOUS GAS ATTACK MY WAY!>IS THAT... ALITTLE NUGGET OF BEJITA'S SHIT? OH BOY I AM THE LUCKIEST SAIYAN EVER! MHMMFH MHMM AWW MAN!
>>729401820Dragon Ball is a really fast read, you should download the manga whenever you get the chance.
>>729401565Fused Piccolo is only strong cause Piccolo had trained so much under King Kai and had fused with Nail.If World Tournament Piccolo had merged with Kami he probably would be Nappa or *maybe* Vegeta level
>>729401537These tits are stronger than your favorite character.
>>729391050dbz broly is a jobber
>>729402073So still doomsday since Goku wasn't even born to fight him yet and Nappa and Vegeta could destroy entire planets?
>>729401820>And had no ides piccolos story was so convoluted.Yeah, I was having a hard time condensing all of it into two thousand letters.>I thought shenron was the ultimate godWell, he's not. He isn't even the only wish-granting dragon.
>>729401537Chronoa gets mogged by Aeos whos tits are smaller
>>729396580Dragonball villains have no motives. Cooler has an excuse in that he has to avenge Freiza and the family honor losing to Goku. He realized he granted Goku mercy, but will intercept the heros if his henchmen failed him. Broly is a weapon for galactic conquest. Even Turles had an excuse being an evil Goku
>>729402073Nail literally said that Freeza wouldn't stand a chance against Piccolo if the latter had fused with Kami before coming to Namek, and Nail obviously said that right before Piccolo fused with him.
>>729401401Fair enough
>>729402089It is said that a slap from her left tit can kill the entire marvel universe, and a slap from the right tit can kill the entire DC universe.That is why she contains her power in a cute loli form.
>>729402342>Dragonball villains have no motives.Except the Zamazus. Zamazi?
>>729401558So are android 17 and 18 humans that are enhanced or robots from theGround up?
>>729401994/dbs/ and its consequences have been a disaster for 4chan.
>>729402376Nails only point of reference was first form Frieza.But then again I doubt Piccolo got that much stronger post Namek before merging with Kami, so Piccolo with Nail and Kami probably could kill Namek saga final form Frieza
>>729401573Kek alright. Thanks>>729401607Thanks>>729401612Bro alright
>>729402475They are human siblings that got kidnapped and enhanced into super cyborgs.
>>729401676Were the android chicks the final boss of an arc or something?
>>729400723>Also what's with all those weird names? Like where tf does bejita come from?/dbs/chizo shit
>>729402476Banning it was. The containment is gone.
>>729402475I think they've been enhanced on the cellular level. Androids is actually a mistranslation, the Japanese word used is Jinzōningen or Artificial Humans. Gero's creations are a mixed bag, some of them are fully mechanical like 16 (as Cell learned the hard way), 20 is Gero's brain in a machine body, and Cell is a biomechanical genetic mishmash.
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>>729402681They had bombs in them, they are humans with mechanical parts. Cyborgs.
>>729401829Thanks. Has gohans final form been revealed yet or is it something everyone is waiting for?
>>729398702>frieza went from folding to android saga trunks to fighting SSB from just a few months of training>10 years of training after that to get the nigga form>whis then says the strongest mortal in the universe isn't him and emerged elsewherecooler's whole thing that differentiated him from frieza was that he trained while frieza rode off his natural talent. if he's been out there training for god knows how many decades while having the same potential for growth as frieza, he'd be fucking loaded by the time of frieza went black
>>729402278Fair fair>He isn't even the only wish-granting dragon.Lmao wat. There's more? Why does it need more wish granting dragons tho?
>>729400613Yes he is. He fuses himself with Goku to get Goku's asspulls for himself.
>>729402804>final formAs long as the series will continue, the cast will never reach their "final" forms.Here's Gohan's idiot giant hair form tho
>>729402569Alright thanks. I always thought they were robots but never got an answer on why they were acting like humans
>>729402681Thanks
>>729402914lmao
>>729402914Lmao true
>>729402870>Why does it need more wish granting dragons tho?Well, it started after the Saiyan Saga since Piccolo was dead, and he took Kami and Shenron with him, and Mr. Popo conveniently knew that Namek has their own set of Dragon Balls. Super introduces the Super Dragon Balls which are basically the Dragon Balls of the gods, the Demon Realm has its own set, there's even another set exclusive to the Super manga, and that isn't even all of them.
>>729403396Do they all just grant wishes or do the all of the sets do different things?
>>729403396>and that isn't even all of themYeah like the non-canon black star dragonballs which were just Shenron without any of his drawbacks, but they blew your planet up.
Can the disingenuous avatarfag fuck off already?
>>729402905He fuses with Goku to feel Goku's dick
>>729403704The AI saar is generating site engagement.This is what the site is for now.
>>729391050You mean the pussy who was triggered by a baby crying, who was Btfo'd in a single punch, couldn't shoot through a wimpy faltering ki blast and then was cloned and beaten by two kids?
>>729391950>was that he could remember Goku's ki and that he associated it with the traumatic event, not that he literally remembers Goku specifically crying since that was a dub line only.That's not a dub only thing, in fact it's why he woke up in the second movie because goten was crying and it reminded him of goku.
>>729403543Different sets of Dragon Balls have different restrictions on the wishes they can grant. For example, the Namek Dragon can grant the same wish more than once, can only revive one person at a time, and also grants three wishes when the Earth Balls could initially only grant one wish at a time but could revive mass numbers of people.
>>729403704Why would i be disingenous? I always ignored db for reasons i stated much earlier in the thread. I'm also not avatarfagging
>>729403543Super Shen grants any one wish you want without any limitation. Can even destroy a universe if you want it to.Porunga, the Namekian dragon ball dragon, can do three wishes with similar limitation to Shenron.I forgot what the manga only one does during the Granola arc. I only remember that they literally only need 2 balls to summon it, and they're super tiny. I think its a monkey paw wish, or any wish will cost you your life span.
>>729398801You might not like it, but this is what a peak human female looks like in Dragon Ball
>>729402804Gohan has "Beast" which nobody knows what it really is, it's just him being very angry and very strongBroly has just regular Super Saiyan but a special version since he's a mutant saiyan basicallyGoku has Ultra Instinct which is his body automatically responds to attacks without him needing to think about it, it also makes him very strongVegeta has Ultra Ego which is a jobber form that's "the more damage I take the stronger I become" but he has no method of healing or minimizing the damage so he just gets knocked out before reaching full potentialPiccolo has Orange Piccolo which is just a generic powerup that makes him a lot strongerNobody else really has any cool forms
>>729404039>cost you your life spanAh yes, the copout shonen drawback authors use to create stakes, but has no effect on the plot because they still won't die a natural death for another 20 years.
>>729404156Toyotarou is still fucking terrible.
>>729396942Okay get this, after the first movie, where he was beaten after everyone gave goku their literal dregs of energy and her got off one single punch to his chest in a deus ex machina move, he somehow finds a pod and makes it to earth and gets frozen for like 7 years and wakes up because Goten's crying triggered him.Goku doesn't technically fight in that one because he's dead so it's all on Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Krillin shows up for a bit.After that this Witch Doctor from the second movie finds his pod and gives his blood to these guys who make clones and then they clone him but he gets melted by a corrosive substance but still lived to fight and was taken out by Goten and Trunks featuring Krillin, no Gohan this time.The next time that specific broly shows up is in the 4D movie where he gains a god form called, surprise surprise, Broly God who gets BTFO'd by Goku who fused with a human.
>>729404039That was only when Granolah wished to become the strongest, because the dragon couldn't just flat out make him the strongest, he instead made it so that all the strength he could have if he trained for his entire life would be given to him but at the cost of those years being taken away from his life.It'd be like if you asked to be rich but instead were given all the money you could make in your entire life all at once but you die next year.
>>729404156You should mention that Ultra Instincts and Ego are techniques of the Angels/God of Destruction, and arent really tied to Saiyan stuff. Orange Piccolo was just him wishing Shenron for a powerboost.
>>729404212>but has no effect on the plot
Cell Saga was a giant mess of a story arc with 1,000 villains and Perfect Cell was a bootleg Frieza. Dragonball returns to form with the Buu Saga.>World building returns>Character development returns>Comedy returns>New techniques returnThe Buu Saga shits on the Cell Saga.
>>729404156Isn't Broly's super saiyan really strong because he's technically in great ape form at all times? I haven't watched the movie in a while.
>>729404039>. I think its a monkey paw wish, or any wish will cost you your life span.Nah, they're basically the same as the regular balls when it comes to what they can do which is kind of bullshit. The life span thing was only because they wished for power so it shaved off the amount of life it would have taken them to reach that level of power.
>>729404364Super > both
>>729404156Cool thanks. Years of questions finally answered
>>729404212I mean we never saw Granola die since Frieza pops out of no where and steals the ending of the arc. It really wasn't explained well from what i remember, the dragon directly tells him about a condition before the wish, and then tells him that he'll be taking 150 years off his life. It might just be a monkey's paw, or every wish he grants takes a chunk of life span.
>>729404421Nah.
>>729404401I think Broly only utilizes the "human form great ape" thing when he's doing his pre-Super Saiyan berserk state.
>>729404421I like Super but no.
>>729404508Granolah's race lives for a long time, he's only left with 3 years.
>>729404302Why would goku fuse with a human and why was that necessary to become more powerful? Humans are less than ants to saiyans in terms of strength
>>729404156>Nobody else really has any cool formsYou forgot BLACKU FREEZAH
>>729404364>1,000 villainsName 20 villains from the Cell Saga.
>>729391642>tranimeyou are still in your teens and don't even have soul you jabbed borg
>>729398462>twin tails>not short hairBleh>hotter than prime 18Now this is just insanity
>>729404329None of it is really even explained properlyIs Beast a saiyan thing or is it unique to Gohan? Is it related to Ultimate?Is Orange Piccolo a Namekian transformation? Is it because he has a special connection to Shenron since he's fused with Kami?>>729404401Broly can go great ape in human form but that's a separate transformation. His super saiyan form is special because he's a unique saiyan. Though I think the official manga coloring when he learns to control super saiyan is just regular yellow so who knows. I think his excuse is just "his base form is super duper strong" so he doesn't need anything higher than regular super saiyan.But it always just begs the question of "why don't Broly and Gohan get god ki" or "why don't Goku and Vegeta get potential unlock"
>>729404569He's referring to a theme park ride in Japan where Goku fuses with the entire audience to fight Broly. It's just a stupid ass theme park show, nothing important.
>>729404364>1,000 villains>Cell, Gero, and 4 other androids>Cell Jr if you seriously need to stretchAnon, what the fuck is wrong with you
>>729404364This. Cell was try hard edgy shit.
>>729404575I was only thinking of OUR FUARKING HEROES, aka the good guys.Buu technically has the "let the grand supreme kai take over" form if you want to call it that
>>729404682Didn't Goku already unlock his potential in pre-Z Dragonball? Or am I misremembering what divine water does?
>>729404569Well, it's supposed to be every human in the audience but they wouldn't amount of vegeta combined.
>>729404718>Frieza and his dad>Gero and #19>#16>#17>#18>CellVS>BuuWhat's wrong with you?
>>729404935>Spopovich and Yamu>Yakon>Bui>Dabura>Babidi>Buu
>game gets another sequel, again
>>729397245reminder Videl throws hands with him and doesn't immediately get vapourised.
>>729404829If I remember right that shit didn't actually do anything, it was just "actually the strength is from climbing the tower to get here".Still. Point is, Elder Kai brought Gohan from weaker than Dabura to shitstomping Super Buu(strongest non merged Buu) so why wouldn't the rest of the cast go for thatGod Ki brought Goku and Vegetas bases up to be stronger than final form (non golden) Frieza after his training(remember that first form Frieza after his training one shot Gohan) so why wouldn't the rest of the cast learn to use it
>>729404364Buu arc is definitely closer to the the heart of Dragon Ball than the Cell arc, but Cell was better written.
>>729404713Lmao alright then. Autistic as shit to regard that as canon
>>729405061Is Daima worth watching
>>729405068>If I remember right that shit didn't actually do anything, it was just "actually the strength is from climbing the tower to get here".There are two divine waters, one that is "the real divine water was the strength you gained along the way" and one that straight up poisons you and killed everyone who ever drank it except Goku.
>>729405056>Babidi's henchmen
>>729405068>it was just "actually the strength is from climbing the tower to get here"That was with Tao, the Ultra Divine water was the one that was basically poison that you had to survive.
>>729395736I prefer S Broly as a character but I understand why Z Broly is as popular as he is, and I think making S Broly the 'canon' equivalent to him was a mistake because of how different he is.
>>729400723>Like where tf does bejita come from?his name kinda sound like "bejita" in the japanese dub
>>729404682>Is Beast a saiyan thing or is it unique to Gohan? Is it related to Ultimate?Toriyama commented that its his own unique form based off all those anger moments he had as a child. Because ever since he was kidnapped by Raditz, he would have these sudden power spikes from anger without ever going blonde. I'd say its a mix of both Saiyan and Ultimate, with the anger not picking a side and causing a variant. Like how OG Broly has that "blue" saiyan hair form, or how he's just called "Super Saiyan" despite it looking like a further steroided out version of what Trunks does with his Super Trunks form.
>>729405085Nigga are you retarded?
>>729405082LOL The Cell saga has a million plot holes.
>>729405112You might like the adventure aspect. I found the show to be rather uneventful to be totally honest. At least it's short.
>>729405182Ah yes, the fucking teapot. I remember now.
>>729405253like?
>Toyama makes Broly canon>It's a cuck edition>Dies
>>729404935>literally ignores the Babidi chase, Majin Vegeta, Debura, and the henchman>but includes Freiza and King who died literally in 5 seconds to show off how stronger Trunks wasOkay, yeah clearly you're just being faggot for no reason.
>>729405253Name two
>>729405112Only if you liked Dragon Ball, it's not DBZ.
>>729405340At least he fixed Broly and actually made him strong in the right way.
>>729405375>I have to warn you about #19 and #20>Oops! actually it's #17 and #18 I never heard of the previous androids!
>>729401046MistareFusion…
reminder that 18 is more popular than Cell or Frieza
>>729405463They explain that multiple times in lore. Time travel in DBZ creates parallel time lines.
>>729405463retard that was actually a plot POINT
>>729405375>Trunks getting the androids wrong>Cell somehow regenerating after getting blown up>Cell and his time machine bullshitAnd there's more btw. Buu saga has none of this stupid shit.
>>729405236That's retarded because both main Saiyan transformations were already based on anger. I prefer the fan theory that it's from Chichi/Ox King's side of the family.
>>729397058>>729394883Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are a bit different.DB with kid Goku is mostly just him on adventures becoming a better fighter where he fights bad guys along the way. The final saga is an ancient evil getting out of a rice cooker and Goku defeating him.DBZ starts with Goku defending Earth from Saiyans, then revive his friends with dragonballs from another planet, then he just defends Earth against androids and then defends Earth against some pink demonIt's not like Z is bad, it's just a much different tone.I also like the fights in OG DB much more.DBZ is a good battle shonen and it has pretty hype moments.>>729397780>He litteraly just grew up. Db takes place over the course of his entire lifeNah, Z just became a battle shonen with ki blasts instead of adventure martial-arts
>>729405587Saiyan transformations are now based on having a tingly feeling in your spine and also Saiyan Midichlorians.
>>729400748Krillin hasn't been competitive since the Saiyan Saga when he could kill saibamen.
>>729405571In the manga Trunks specifically mentions androids 19 and 20 which is what that anon was referring to. The anime cleans this up.
>>729405250What?
>>729405375Cell getting a zenkai boost despite Vegeta saying you can't inflict damage on yourself to get itBonus, Trunks having a sword. Without 19 and 20 there's no reason for it.
>>729405584>Trunks getting the androids wrongThis was acknowledged and explained>Cell somehow regenerating after getting blown upThis was acknowledged and explained>Cell and his time machine bullshitThis was acknowledged and explainedFuck off baiting faggot I bet you didn't watch Buu saga either.
>>729405236>Like how OG Broly has that "blue" saiyan hair formThe blue hair saiyan Broly has always been a mystery.
>>729404364Why does 4chan shit on cell all the time now? It's like this on /a/ is it because it's the most popular saga?
>>729391050canon btw
>>729405510That's not how that works, it creates a new timeline from where the change occurred while the original timeline is untouched.
>>729405728All of the broly movies except for the super one are non-canon
>>729405790No idea. A decade ago Buu saga was the laughingstock of the entire series with how many asspulls and plotholes it introduced, but I guess contrarians needed ammo to antagonize real fans with.
>>729402797Bulma explicitly says they're enhanced on a cellular level and have 'biomechanical enhancements'. the bomb is a different thing. a dude with an artificial leg isn't a cyborg.
>>729404109Gohan could've easily dodged that, for the record
>>729405892The biggest ass pull in the series is in the Cell Saga anon.
>>729405584>Trunks getting the androids wrongButterfly effect, Future Trunks going back in time to a different dimension changed that dimension's future.>Cell somehow regenerating after getting blown upHis core survived, so he regenerated with his namek cells and got a power boost thanks to his sayian cells.>Cell and his time machine bullshitThis is actually too long and I can't be arsed to explain it.
The only real plot hole in the Cell Saga is Cell saying he has his core in his head, even though we saw Goku vaporize his entire upper body with the instant transmission kamehameha.The androids thing only matters with Trunks using the wrong numbers. Trunks being unaware of 19 and Gero is easily explainable by them being dead by 17 and 18 before Trunks was even old enough to walk.
>>729404546his uncontrolled SSJ state is the consequence of going super saiyan when he was ikari raging. when Toriyama died, the manga was in the middle of an arc showing him training to go SSJ whilst in his base form so he could actually control being super saiyan.
>>729396584>dethrones teamFUNNYstar
>>729405205that's how his name is spelled in Japanese because they don't have a 'V' sound in their language, so they use 'B' instead.
>>729405758>This was acknowledged and explainedNo, they don't acknowledge why 19 and 20 just blipped out of existence in the future and were replaced with 17 and 18.Cell was technically explained but that explanation caused two plot holes1) why didn't he die when goku took out his entire top half if his nucleus is in his head, if it did survive wouldn't it regenerate in space or wherever the kamehameha took it?2) he self destructed, Vegeta established that you can't inflict harm on yourself to power up like that so how did he come back significantly stronger?The time machine one is the only one that makes sense since cell was too big to fit in the time machine and needed that extra time.
No one hates Dragonball more than Dragonball fans>NOO why is the main character getting all the focus?>NOOO how come the irrelevant human characters dont get more screen time?!>NOOO Dragonball should have ended with king Piccolo!!>NOO it should have ended with Frieza!>NOOO it should have ended with Cell!!!>NOOO GT sucks!>NOO Super sucks!!>NOOO Daima sucks>NOOO why isn't Gohan the main character???>NOOO why can’t Vegeta save the day??!Every thread it’s the same shit
>>729405790Everyone has always shat on the cell saga because of all the nonsense editorial changes super saiyan forms.
>>729402412>>729400280Author basically forgets about the other cast members and just drops them when he doesn't know what to do with them.Dude just wanted to make fun manga so he didn't take it so seriously and just made stuff fans wanted. It's why Vegeta became a party member.Tien was basically Goku's rival until ZPiccolo became the evil dude who turned good (by becoming the father figure for Gohan, Goku's kid)Vegeta comes in as the main villain in the saiyan saga, becomes popular so he isn't killed at the end. Becomes the rival character but I never could take him as serious as Tien or Piccolo. He's literally just there to catch up to Goku so Goku can show off how much stronger he became.Piccolo becomes the smart guy in the group and if the crew would listen to him once, none of the arcs would take longer than 10 chapters.In the Android Saga everyone becomes full retard, it's amazing. Especially because Gohan has to clean that mess up and he's just 10 at that point (Goku watched him get the shit beaten out of him several chapters until Piccolo finally managed got through him)
>>729406293Armored Core fans do the same shit. This is just the consequence of a series going on for so long.
>>72940628017 kills Gero immediately upon being activated in the present timeline. Is there any reason to think he didn't do the same in the future timeline?
>>729406006his core is in his head. at one point his entire body above his waist was destroyed.
>>729405761It's just regular Super Saiyan, but restrained by Paragus' mind control device. In the next movie, after it's destroyed, his hair is plain yellow.Does it make sense? Not completely, noIs it sick af? Yes, so I don't mind
>>729406339Toriyama literally brought Goku and Vegeta back at the end of the Buu Saga because of a popularity poll in Jump 94
>>729405892because weeb newfags learned that Cell is the least-liked villain in Japan and that Toriyama hated drawing him because his design was too complex. so now, to prove how how much of a "real fan" they are, they pretend to hate Cell and like Buu. Same inferiority complex that leads to them claiming the dub is unwatchable (I'll grant ESLs a pass on this because they grew up with a different dub).
>people are still arguing over which saga had bigger plot holesToriyama literally wrote his script on a weekly basis. He said so himself. The whole manga is a joke. Stop taking it so seriously.
>>729406576Weebs hate Cell because that was the peak of DBZ's popularity on Toonami. That's all.
>>72940665422nd tenkachi through Frieza had zero plotholes.
>>729406130Wouldn't that make him weaker then even if he is in control? SS is only a 50x multiplier where him stacking SS on his great ape tier rage would be 500x
>>729406293It should've ended on Frieza. That's the story going full circle basically.
>>729406654no MY tastes are the most scholarly
>>729406745Frieza had something worse than plotholes, it had lazy writing.
>>729402914>Dragon Ball f movie is great bro!>watch it>it's shit>Dragon Ball Super is great bro! This time for sure!>still shit>You have to watch DBS, bro. They brought back DB character and Future Trunks!>it's just evil Goku, Goku beats him and still shit>DBS is great bro, they brought back all the characters back again, like Muten Roshi, Android 18 and 17>they all job, Goku defeats bad guy and it's still shit>Bro, you have to watch Dragon Ball Super Hero, it's really good and it's Piccolo and Gohan. It's PEAK!>entire movie is just about re-creating the SSJ2 transformation, even the villain is just Cell againDunno why but as long as Akira Toriyama is involved I will give it a try every time.I even got Sand Land but I actually enjoyed that
>>729406293The "It should have ended at X" people are faggots who think they're too smart for Dragon Ball and that if it ended earlier it would be more valid as a work of art. The Goku complaint is justifiable desu, every other shonen gives the whole cast their own arcs and spotlights, Dragon Ball has always stood out in that it's the Goku show through and through, even in the OG the idea of anyone other than Goku getting shit done was treated as a joke because he was always miles above every other hero at any moment.
>>729406554When I first watched the movie as a kid I thought it was because he was the legendary saiyan so all his transformations were unique. In fact his hair is green in his final form if I recall correctly.
>>729406574Anon, the manga ended early 95, he would have had the plot mostly done by then.Also there was no 94 popularity poll, there was a 93 one and a 95 one but not 94. The 95 poll also coincides with chapter 501 the chapter AFTER goku was revived and there was about two and a bit weeks 500 and 501 so there was no way Golu's revival was influenced by a poll.
>>729406791It was the end of Goku's story for sure. Seemed like Toriyama didn't know what to do with him afterwards.
>>729406293>if you're a fan, you are not allowed to criticize at all
>>729406442Then how did he manage to get back after his upper body got vaporized?Because his core wasn't actually in his head, dingus. Cell said that it was but why the actual fuck would he reveal that? He was lying, he's a villian.
>>729406971After Goku's fight with Piccolo, Dragonball becomes an ensemble cast manga. Goku is either dead or off training somewhere. Goku was away for most of Namek. He was in a coma for most of Cell. Dragonball was one of the first manga to incorporate most of the cast like that.
>>729398702All he has to do is show up. As the latest villain he'll be stronger than everyone by default (until he loses)
>>729407076So it was Vegeta who placed 2nd in the 95 poll, that was brought back. I got my info mixed up.
>>729407078>>729406791No, Cell Saga is required because of Goku and Gohan.>>729407260Yeah but then every time it was about waiting for Goku to solve the situation.>He was in a coma for most of CellHe was out of commission during the Android Saga, where the Z fighters jobbed big time.Cell Saga was just Goku holding back so Gohan could have fun (he did not have fun)
>>729407107Dragonball is notorious for having picky fans who cant read.
>>729391102kek this really got 'em oinkin
>>729406971>every other shonen gives the whole cast their own arcs and spotlights,Z fag detected. The majority of the characters you think didn't have an arc, development, whatever had it in DB unless you're going to say Yamcha is still a desert bandit and Tien is still an assassin for example. The only thing that they hadn't gone over was goku and Piccolo's origins and just like that you get two back to back arcs explaining both after the time skip.
>>729406906>Look at me I hate the best saga.
>>729391102Goku managed to save his universe.Superman universe has been reset like 10 times
>>729407393>he would have had the plot mostly done by then.
>Goku vs Superman Both job to Spencer-sama
>>729406293I love all of Dragonball desu.
>>729407753>tsk tsk, now what were you planning to do with THAT kakarot?
Early DBZ > Dragonball > Late DBZ > Daima > ToP Super > GT > Rest of Super
>>729407873>GT>above anything
>>729406654I liked the Red Ribbon arc
>>729407873Dragon Ball Super Future Saga is hype as fuck tho
>>729407975I love Toriyama's machines. They're so full of detail compared to anything else he drew.
>>729407560DB characters have arcs in the sense 90% of them were bad people and then Goku beats them up. Red Ribbon Army was the moment he completely surpassed his allies and never looks back, when the other Kame House inhabitants try to come to help him and by the time they arrive he has already cleaned house. I admit though that >>729407260 has a point if you look beyond him being the strongest fighter for 90% of the manga.
>>729406964>as long as Akira Toriyama is involvedWell, guess that well has run dry :(
>>729402914DB:AF tier
>>729394989>more realisitcThe original Broly was extremely one-dimensional for being one of the few remaining saiyan, but this one took 'all the action' from him.
>>729407928Baby arc is better than anything in Super desu
>>729391050Super's animation is so bad I can never tell what's a meme edit and what isn't
>>729408662No.It's a knock off plan to eradicate the saiyans which actually did it better. Not too mention nothing in GT was animated well. You'll never be able to find a single good fight.
>>729391050Since this is just an off topic DBZ thread are any of the NES/SNES JRPGs worth playing?
>>729409307Nope. Just play Attack of the Saiyans on the DS for turnbased DBZ JRPG
>>729407873Saiyan arc is really the peak of the franchise and I wonder if Toriyama had help writing it because he never really displayed that quality again.
