How do I get into this genre?
>>729391886symphony of the night
You start with the founding father of the Hebevania genre.
Can we start calling them Search Action too? Castlevania is some netflix anime shit and as of Prime 4, Metroid is now a AAA "Focus, M" type game. It was fine to compare these games to Castlevania and Metroid when that meant "Symphony of the Night" and "Super Metroid", but now it's confusing as shit and probably not even desirable to be associated with.
play hollow knight. ignore the rest
>>729391886Super Metroid
>>729391916>>729392431one of these two
>>729391886Faxanadu
>metroidvaniaUnc still trying to make that stick.They're Hollow-likes
>>729392271hmmmm, nyo.
>>729391886>genres name is a mashup of two gamesbro...
Metroid sucks. We need to change the genre name to Castlevanialike.
>>729391886Metroid on NES. Then Simon's Quest, Rondo of Blood, Metroid 2 and Adventure of Link. Only then can you truly appreciate and understand Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night, which themselves are the games that set the formula of the genre. From there you can play anything.>>729392271I can't condone Search Action because it sounds very awkward in English. I'd prefer we just use the Japanese term without translating it. "Adventure platformer" is what I personally call it, but there must be a better genre name out there somewhere.
>>729392271It is a fucking retarded term. The genre was created in the west and not Japan, so it's absurd to name the genre after two jap games.
>>729392768What platforming games with permanent power-ups that expand your platforming abilities and allow you to reach more areas of a single continuous world, were developed in the West before Metroid?
Why would someone want to "Get into" a genre or series that they don't care enough about to just jump into?
super metoid or symphony of the night are the best place to startcave story, axiom verge, hollow night, ori, are all great as well'metroidvania' is still a terrible name and i hate it almost as much as 'character action'
>>729392768>so it's absurd to name the genre after the game franchises that established the genreYou want them to be called Hollow Knight-likes don't you? You little faggot
>>729393102I love HaloDoom games
>>729391886Start with Ender LiliesDon't play Hollow Knight or Silksong.
>>729391916fpbp
>>729393159FPS used to be called Doom clones IIRC so it tracks
>>729391886Super MetroidSilksong Rabi-RibiLa Mulana 2These are the absolute best the genre has to offer
>>729392971Usually when you get into a genre you;re unfamiliar with there's a "gateway drug" or so to say, this is also a thing /mu/ & /tv/ and even /a/ abides with, Think about the first video game that got you into the hobby, now think about a person who's never touch one in their life saying they, wanna know what the fuss is all about, are you gonna make them play something esoteric first? or something that;s gonna try and ease them in? You're not gonna tell your friend to watch Dragon Ball Evolution if they wanna get into DBZ are you?
>>729392962https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUBefQ1cT4I would assume this was also the inspiration for Faxanadu.
>>729393159"Doom clones" was a term before FPS, faggot.
>>729392554>hmmmm, nyo.hmmmMMM NYEESSSS
>>729392962Jetset Willy
>>729393391>missing the pointA genre name should describe the genre.
>>729391886Play Yi's game, Nine Sols
>>729393795No, you're missing the point. They actually did call them that before, but apparently you were unaware of that.
>>729391886Have you tried playing them?That sounds like a good start.
>>729391886Start with Hollow Knight, then play Silksong. That's it. Everything else is vastly inferior
>>729394057The good ole WolfenDoom days
Play these games in release order.
>>729394057Learn more English
>>729392271Yeah, we're not calling every FPS a doom clone either.I guess defining characteristics would be that it doesn't have a real hub or level select, but instead uses a single contiguous level that the player gains more access to by collecting things.So clearly the correct term is "Libra Expander Agent" game
>>729391886You start at the start (Pitfall II) and you play in release order until you get to Metroid Zero Mission.Then you stop.
>>729395156https://www.mobygames.com/game/genre:metroidvania/include_dlc:false/include_nsfw:false/release_status:all/sort:date/page:1/
>>729392271Hollowlikes
>>7293918861. Play Super Metroid2. Play Castlevania: Symphony of the NightYou're done. You've already experienced the best the genre has to offer.
>>729393795And metroidvania describes metroidvanias
why not castleroid
>>729395514they're casual shit and Silksong mogs them utterly
>>729393281>Usually when you get into a genre you;re unfamiliar with there's a "gateway drug" or so to sayThat happens because you see the "gateway drug" and think "That looks fun" or "I wonder what that's like" and decide to try it. The next question then is "Where can I get more" or "What else is there", but not "How can I get in", since you're already in; you already got past the "gate". If OP wants to "get into" the genre, then it's probably because he saw a game in the genre and thought it looked interesting, so why not start there? That's the part that puzzles me.
>>729394056>figured out how to make the greatest metroidvania of all time by simply making it not a metroidvaniacan't wait for their next kino
>>729394158That would've made more sense than including Halo, which was consoleslop made long after FPS games were established as something more than Doom clones. The point is that FPS games were initially named after Doom (rather than Wolf3D for whatever reason), rather than being described as what they are.>>729394247Retard.
>>729396307But they weren't called "Doom", were they dummy?"Dude this new Doom game came out called Turok"
>>729392537Hollow-likes are a sub-genre. Fatal Claw is a Hollow-like.
>>729397220And metroidvanias aren't called metroid or castlevania, they're called metroidvanias.
>>729391886develop an addiction to backtracking
>>729397493As I said, learn more English
>>729395792Silksong has a shit OST, the areas are chore to explore and despite being more combat focused it only has ONE(1) good boss fight in Carmelita
what does non linear mean in this context? like if you have to follow a path to get an item to unlock the next part of the path to repeat how is that not linear? none of the metroid games i played had options at the start, you get the missile upgrade, you can now open the missile doors, now you need the ball upgrade to continue. theres no other options this is the path everyone has to taken as intended by the game, isnt this linear?
NEStlevania is better than SotN-style explorationslop.
>>729397725Is "learn more English" the american phrase for "I have no argument"?
>>729392271I like itcall it SA for shortI fucking love SA
They should be called Marios. Everything used to just be called a Mario clone
>>729398512Rocket League is my favorite Pong.
>>729393281Guacamelee is pretty good, I'm surprised it doesn't get suggested more often.
>>729396307Maybe Wolfendooms was a regional dialect, but we definitely called them that back in the day
>>729391886>with a need to acquire key items to enter certain areasSo, the same focus as not just action-adventure games, but regular adventure games as well? Reading what people who clearly don't play many video games write about video games as if they know what they're talking about, has made me realize that most "experts" are fucking retarded
>>729400092Why can't you get ye flask?
>>729400140You'll just have to imagine the reason
>>729400140>>729400092he should've said "Get yon flask"
>>729391886Super Metroid, Metroid Dread, SoTN and any of the GBA or DS Castlevania games.
>>729401085He should have just asked Dennis for help
>>729393218+1 to this if OP has played some Souls
>>729393281This is pretty good, its just missing Blasphemous. Starting with the OG games might be a little jarring as well, up to op
>>729393218>half nude anime child on posteri'll pass
>>729404957that's half nude to you, faggot?
>>729391886The easiest and most accessible game for a first timer to the genre is probably Ori and the Blind Forest + Ori and the Will of the Wisps.
>>729404986She is completely nude under that nightgown
>>729391886Play Nine Sols and Lost Crown. Ignore the rest
>>729391886Play Ori. The only good metroidvania for non autistic people.