Does Nikke have the best gacha story out there right now?
>>729397541Name a single video game with a good story
it's miseryslop
I'm not falling for that again.>x gacha has a great story>y gacha is really generous>z gacha has deep gameplay
>nah dude, MY gacha isn't like the others
>"nikke has a good story">look inside>amogus shooting a metal gear.webm
>>729397652>>729397609>>729397712this but that applies for MY gacha of choicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQdnjlMUCZQ
Stories have endings. Gachas just keep going until the money dries up, so it's hard to judge them.
>>729397652>>729397712Cookie cutter strawman complaints. Did a youtuber make a video hating gacha recently?
>>729397712They literally did kill recruitable characters in nikke recently and some people were seething about it so if other gachas don't do that then it actually is differentI think in shift up's first game they actually killed all the main girls
>>729397884just because you can't form your own opinions without watching youtubers doesn't mean I can't
>>729397884This. Getting really tired of these discord raids trying to disparage against gacha which has always been certified /v/core.
It's genuinely impossible for gachas to have good stories when the story and gameplay are always disconnected from each other and the most "interaction" you have is two meaningless dialogue choices that pop up every few minutes
>>729397541the story was kinda decent up to old taleseverything afterwards was dogshit
>>729398057This gacha is the opium of the masses. China is amazing. Managing to simultaneously make hundreds of retarded laws about gaming and the Internet which only caused Chinese game developers to become more and more predatory and evil
>>729397541In general it's up therenot sure of the absolute bestbut it's one of themalso>>729397712>>729398057>>729398220seethe ;)
>>729398032>I think in shift up's first game they actually killed all the main girlsI thought the three succubi in Destiny Child all got killed off
>>729397541And?Did any of those girls used a pistol to self-terminate? That tweet makes no point otherwise.
>>729397541In gachas? Maybe
>>729397541Nikke's story is everybody being retarded and sometimes people die only for them to come back to life later.
>>729398263bro is acting like only one isn't one of the most kino things to happen in nikke
>>729398710>literally a reused sprite from an earlier event
>>729397609I think E.Y.E's story is great.
>>729397541NoArknights
>>729397541Gachaniggers have a low standard for what they consider "good". So I wouldn't take what they say seriously
>>729397541It's just a Nier knockoff that completely shit the bed in 2025.It's Mihomo-tier slop now.
>>729397541Yeah sure why not, Mihoyoslop is shit, FGO became retarded after Lostbelt 5, GFL2 is a mess, Epic Seven is boring, Blue Archive goes nowhere. I forgot how GBF was after I dropped it and I am not up to date with Arknights but those are decent too
im not going to play gacha because I want to pick what characters I have.this stupid genre should never have gone for this long
right now it's Trickcal>low stakes cozy store>every single character is a retarded squishy potato>chase characters don't get glazed over and they're not excepted from making ass out of themselves>every time the game builds up for something mysterious and braces for shocking twist an important fact gets randomly brought up that recontextualizes everything (like elves hyped up to be mysterious alien race from space, turns out they're just Santa elves who escaped)
>>729397541I'd say Limbus, but I like Arknight's world building more
Gacha storytelling peaked here. We will never see such heights again.
>>729397541No because you can't take the plot seriously when the women have GGGGG tits and asses that appear in rap videos>inb4 uhm tranny you just want tranny tranny with a tranny while trannyi like anime titties i'm just laughing at you for thinking that some big titty anime bimbo talking about suicide is le serious
>>729399114>troon seething
>>729399114uh oh tranny melty
>>729398958Unfortunately FGO was always retarded, with Atlantis being the exception (by being okayish), it only had some few nice moments but the writing is shit, is just that the competition somehow creates something worse most of the time
i hate gachafags so much it's unrealzzz's trailers are really good thoughi'll never played it
lol. NO
Does anyone else have anti-gacha fatigue?
>>729399204>>729399247I SAID INB4 YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>>729397785I've been playing 2 and it's a fucking snoozefest, anon
>>729397884disingenuous
>>729397541>Nikke the game about nigger asses twerking What they have is the darkest playerbase in all of gacha right now
>>7293994162 went through the same shit that 1 did with a year of filler, starting from this month the majors will have some quality to them.never mentioned 2 anyways
>>729397541Nah, that's Limbus.Which also destroys the retarded notion that you have to kill main characters.
>>729397541gacha story phd coming throughnikke has moments when it peaks into B but most of the time it's C garbage
>>729397541No, avalon le fae alone kinda shits all over it.
>>729399703I stopped playing GFL after Polarized Light, the writing wasn't interesting anymore like in Singularly and Continuum Turbulence, did it managed to get worse ?
>>729399790>lmao
>>729398710retard
>>729399036K I N O G R A P H YINOGRAPHY
>>729399934Aside from a few shit endgame chapters where that applies, you missed the best story arc from the game
>>729397541>le death and le tragedy is le good writing!Western normalfaggots and failed-writer-turned-anime-reviewers have done irreparable damage to discussion of any Japanese media, my fucking God.
>>729400276>japanese mediawrong thread.
>ctrl+f "Fate">0/0The absolute ultimate case of mega kino being hidden behind 15 chapters of a mobile gacha game.In all seriousness though, FGO once it gets going ranges from generally fun stories to some of the best shit Nasu has written along with the VNs that made his company have the name and legacy it has now. Lostbelt 6 is legitimately an amazing story in its own right and it genuinely makes me sad that it's eternally locked behind about 50 hours of other chapters that start of dogass and end up pretty good but not god tier until LB6.
>>729397541Can you use still use the characters after they were killed in the story?
>>729397609Commander Keen.
>>729400276https://youtu.be/1cvYWL9Eqp8
>>729399790>hi3ok you got me
>>729397541This year was a mess, they spent WAY too long on the 4 beasts shit and Levi's non-stop woman moments.
>>729400276>>le death and le tragedy is le bad writing!go away SOLslurper
>>729400432>muh erm technically that's koreaslopOkay nitpicking redditroon, it's the same group of normalfags regardless and all 2D korean and bugmen shit just apes anime/manga anyway.>>729400552It's not like it even has to be "le happy funtimes everyone lives no matter what", but tragedy/shock value slop is the absolute fucking worst and it traps so many pseuds into liking it, especially because of them all circlejerking each other.There's a huge difference between a character going out in a heroic blaze of glory as a sacrifice to save the ones they love and some character blowing their brains out or getting brutalized, both out of nowhere. Like Ragna Crimson when Woltekamui shows up after a fight wrapped up and killed 90% of the characters on screen. "ZOMG SHOCKER!!11!!". Just sooo piss poor.>>729400914Read above, troongedyslop loser.
>>729397609monster girl quest, and paradox.
>>729397609Astlibra
I like Stella Sora's story, having bad endings and choices being recalled later is a breath of fresh air for a gacha.
>>729397609I think Stellaris devs did a pretty good job with the story of some event chains, situations and origins.
>>729397609Library of ruina
>>729400552lmao, eden treaty is when the game went full edge for a bit and it's exactly the most (only) praised arc of the game in a sea of saccharine three stooges comedy routines
>le cute girls but akshually le dark
>>729401117Based
>>729397541>Marian comes back right after as ModerniaI dropped this game when they hyped up Syuen getting punished for leading raptures to the Ark but....nothing happened. She just gets beat up a little lol, Nikke is dogshit for midwits ever since the first anni, maybe even since Overzone
>>729397541If I want misery porn, i'd read arknights or gfl. Nikke is fucking shit, its somehow worse than being generic.
>>729400949you cant just keep calling everything you don't like a troon
>>729401403That's like 90% of Nikke right there, just ironic weeb normgroids pogging out over "Tragedy....but with anime girls in a gacha" over and over. To them, tragedy means deep
>>729399036>>729401374>edgeretard read the story.
>>729401374Having things get dark only for the heroes to band together and overcome them completely is the exact opposite of miseryslop. Pure hopeslop and I want to delivered directly into my mouth via a funnel. I'd hardly call it 'full edge' anyway, it still never gets that dark.
>>729401440I can especially when you keep avoiding the point, like a troon would.
All of the gachaslop turned into anime adaptation are shit, with an exception to Uma Musume (minus season 1), Priconne, and Arknights. I can see the upcoming Nikke anime will suck hard.
>>729401431>misery porn>gflits just porn though
OH BOY I SURE LIKE HAVING HIGH STEAKSI CAN'T FATHOM A LITTLE VANILLA STORYI NEED CORRUPTION, DEGENERACY, INFIDELITY SO I CAN RELATE FR FR EU WHEELS ON THE BUSSIN GO CAP CAP CAP>valkyrie chronicles kills of Selvaria - devs regret it and try to create Selvaria clones>resident evil kills of wesker - the plot goes everywhere and starts losing its identity>Halo kills off Cortana and Johnson - halo desperately wants to undo it but have written themselves into a corner>Mega Man kills off Zero - immediately backtrack and bring him back, him being there improved the story and relations with X with their imminent fight to the death
>>729401693AK anime isn't that good, and uma cheats with cingray
>>729397609Sonic Battle for the GBA
>>729401693Priconne's anime sucks because it's yuribait dogshit when it should've been 24 straight episodes of Pecorine paizuri.
>>729397609SOMA
FGO is good again with MarisKINO Animusphere.Arknights is good again with you getting to ragebait your ex as an actual gameplay mechanic.Nikke lost.
>>729397541No, dumbass
>>729397541Killing characters by itself doesn't make your story good unless you're 15 and specifically looking for edgy shit. I've heard good things about Nikke though.>>729399934Polarized Light was great aside from its rushed ending (They later redid the whole ending).But no, it for the most part goes downhill from there with a notable exception in Poincaré Recurrence and maybe a couple others. Cartesian Theatre was where it started spiraling down as they had to adapt the whole story to fit Reverse Collapse's release.
Someone post that pic of all the gacha on the bus or train or w/e thinking they're all unique for muh high stakes muh music etc., I forgot to save it.Only 9 year olds think this shit is deep.
>what if Erebus...was a blonde titcow?
>>729401016>>729401117BASED
>>729401693I don't get why the Fate/Grand Order Babylonia anime is considered bad by some. At worst its missing a few minor scenes, but it takes a good story and adapts it pretty well, and can be watched with minimal context from the previous chapters too, has some awesome animation in places and does the characters justice.I DO get why the Camelot movies are considered bad - those are heavily cut down story wise to the point that without the original version as context they're hard to follow for anything other than Bedivere's personal story, and that it was basically just an excuse to animate the cool moments.
>>729397541>best story>gets mogged by a fucking horseStick to BA gooks
>>729397541No, and I still play it. The beginning of the story is so generic and so rushed it's hard to see how people actually care for any of the characters they set up to be main players in the story. Around the 20s it gets fairly interesting dipping back and forth until what we have now, but the time investment to get to that point isn't really all that worth it if you're just purely in it for story stuff. You're better off watching it on youtube. Some of the event stories are truly really good, but again if you're a newer player you miss a lot of those and have to find out what exactly you're not seeing.Also they're equally afraid and not afraid of killing characters off. You can see how much they pussy around with a lot of characters that should just be dead. There are entire long segments of the game's release cycle where it's just a constant bait and switch between characters about to die but uh oh they actually do the needful and power up!?!? It's not exactly compelling stuff but what's there is easily better than most other gacha stories. For example, anything Hoyo starts off either interesting or whatever, and it ends up being dragged on for so long everything else feels like zero passion filler until you wonder why you're even there. Then there's the hyper autistic epic sized stories of Arknights and GFL that require you to be invested to get anything out of it.
only good gacha is FGO
>>729400435The only good thing in LB6 is it's presentation (starting from part 2) and Oberon (mostly because he is charismatic)FGO does not have a single good chapter, and Nasu never managed to write something good after Kara No Kyoukai 5
>>729397541FGO*
>>729398921>It's just a Nier knockoffTaro niggers need to be lined up at the wall and shot asap
>>729402592Nah, sorry man, not gonna let that Mahoyo slander slide.
The only gacha with a decent story is Sword of Convallaria and that's because its main game mode is a proper SRPG with routes and endings that's entirely divorced from the eternally ongoing live service gacha part of the game.
>>729398032FGO only lets you roll for jannu alter after you kill her. This is the first chapter after the game's tutorial.
>Had a good story with varied and likeable characters and a rare decent translation>Chapter 3 ended with a major revelation>Suddenly gets killed by the execs because it didn't immediately make a bajillion dollarsIt's not fair
>>729401693I always see Priconne tauted as one of the great gacha to anime adaptions and I watched it and it IS fun, but it seems like an extremely straight forward form of adaption for the format. It sets up the base story, has a few episodic adventures with characters of the week, and then resolves with a notable but inconclusive ending that doesn't move the characters forward.It's fun, well animated and has fantastic music (I can complement Kohei Tanaka for fucking hours, trust me). But as far as the writing goes its about as bog standard an adaption as it gets and if you're going by animation and music being good, that doesn't put it much higher up than things like the Granblue anime that are generally considering "okay" and not great.
>>729401646>I'd hardly call it 'full edge' anyway, it still never gets that dark.Bro Misaki fully contemplates jumping off a bridge while implying she has attempted suicide multiple times, contrast that with the rest of the game's writing and characterization
>>729402715Sorry man, but Nasu is not a good writer been years, a shame, since I like his world building somewhat.
>>729399019>>729398958>arknights>decentIf the story itself wasn't written by chinks who can't condense their writing for the life of them I would agree.
The vast majority of gacha game audiences, especially nowadays, would have a nuclear meltdown if they added this character to a game nowadays and that is insanely funny to me.
>>729397541Post your feel when you played overzone, heard https://youtu.be/OO1WIhFh_ME?si=Dm98OuvI0ASCVXnhAnd realized it was the title screen theme.
>>729397541It's impossible for me to care about gacha stories because they're essentially lipstick on a pig.Wow great story but the underlying game is a manipulation tactic to squeeze all the money they can out of your wallet, any artistic value it has is completely secondary to draining you financially.
Nikke and BA are the only ones with good storiesHoyoslop ranges from just okay to absolute fucking uninteresting slogsGBF's is offensively bad. The only time I can remember actually enjoying myself rading grub was the Divine General events and Tyra's event. I want to try FGO but there's no way in hell I subject myself to an early 2010s gacha UI just for the story. Plus the fact that it's basically going to be 2 years behind JP at all times
>>729403007>Medb>When Planet Fucker is right there
>>729399416>>729399703They hid the good writing in the side story for some reason https://youtu.be/XsZYX5xrgXw?si=cktmSrChk62ZU5HV&t=266
>>729403556They made her boring.
i love slurping up edgy stories, feed me more
>>729397541>kill off a character = good storytellingLiterally forced drama and the laziest way to make a shitty story seem interesting.
>>729403343I felt it was the end because the game would be infested with ironic weebs>Dude the story is so good, came for the waifus stayed for the story amirite?!?Dogshit
>>729403541I tried to play ZZZ some months ago, when I reached the part with the gay looking vampire talking a robot, I ended up falling asleep, these fuckers wrote a shitload of words to say the most basic shit and apparently I'm supposed to think that is good writing
>>729397609Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Unironically
>>729403541Nikke is dogshit
>>729404023Rebirth very clearly ripped its plot wholesale from Monster Girl Quest Paradox and it's fucked that people don't call this out as much as they really should
>>729397541the only good gacha with the best story was love live school idol festival
>>729404023>gachafags are the ff7 reslopped defenderseverything makes sense
>>729397541I don't play nikke but the description of the recent story sounded pretty good. But character deaths clearly cause melties among certain unhinged segments of the gacha population.I play wuwa (mostly for gameplay) and they've faked killing playable characters like 4 times now, shit's getting old. If you're not actually gonna do it, stop pretending you are.
>>729404396>like 4 times nowI don't remember anyone besides Phrolova
>character dies>its le bad/goodWhat makes it bad or good then?
>>729403541>I want to try FGO but there's no way in hell I subject myself to an early 2010s gacha UI just for the story. On modern phones the UI is spread out enough that its slightly less offensive, but it is ultimately that UI. I think the story from Camelot on IS worth it, and there's a lot of it.>Plus the fact that it's basically going to be 2 years behind JP at all timesYou quickly learn this is a HUGE boon once you follow the game regularly. Makes the gacha, even with its dogshit pity, far less of an issue, because you can play consistently for what you want. I know the Mahoyo collab is in five months, I know not to touch my rolls until then. Without clairvoyance I might have dumped my funds on Marie Antoinette Alters fat tits.
I haven’t played Nikke since the anniversary. Any reason I should go back to it??
>>729404429Shorekeeper, cart, Iuno
>>729404519if a character dies (and stays dead), then that means devs are not afraid of losing moneyit's bad when there are no stakes whatsoever
>>729397609Shadow Of The ColossusSimple, but effective, something most of the gachas with serious plot have forgotten
>>729397541Unbreakable Sphere is the actual worst shit I've ever read
Absolute Cinemahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g1Dzp9FGAg
>>729404586>shorekeepershe never died or was implied to die>cartethyaokay, I'll give you this one since I forgot about rinascita finale>iunoshe just disappeared and the point of her story was to bring her back
>>729404556anis alt+snow white upgrade and morenew year stream is on the 29
>>729397541Nikke fags think they’re hot shit for killing off irrelevant characters when Honkai Impact’s Himeko has been dead for almost a decade
>>729404065hey can you lower the resolution a little bit more, I can almost read the text
>>729404893marian was anything but irrelevantand himeko is alive in hsr
>>729404893The difference is people play Nikke
>>729401693The only reason the Arknights anime was good is because it made the story actually watchable as opposed to the game’s horrendous writing
>>729398987based trikka
why does he hate the ocean so much
>>729397541Unironically yes.
Nikke is like the gacha version of Akame ga Kill. It’s complete fucking dogshit but it has a couple death scenes that try way too hard to stir emotions in people and retards lap it up and call it art. >DUDE this game has le sad music and girls crying, that means it’s automatically good. Fucking Uma Musume is more engaging than that trash, and they don’t even need to kill off anybody
>>729398545They didn't die but they were effectively in comas and the MC got a new trio of hot girls after he himself powered up.
>>729402640Aphelion really was the peak of gacha writing. We’ll never get anything as good as that again
>>729400464No. John Shiftup himself visits your house and deletes them from your account when you get to the relevant parts in the story.
>>729404519>badRevival happens 10 minutes later or it's for someone that nobody gives a shit because of lack of development but the writers expect you to care>goodCharacter gets acceptable development prior to death and has a lasting effect for events going down the line like picrel
>>729403541FGO is not worth it, there's a couple of really good stories there but you have to dig through an ocean of shit and badly done shipfaggotry written by certain talentless individuals, also the second part of the story has been ongoing for like 8 years because they keep padding with bad to mediocre filler
I'm shocked that there's any debate at all in the thread but I guess not too many people play Limbus compared to the rest
>>729405363>againCorposant in 1-2 months and >>729403623
>>729405275>A good chunk of /a/ mocked me for saying AGK was fucking terrible and told me to kill myself for criticizing a modern classic>Literally nobody remembers that shit anymore
>>729404889>anis alt+snow white upgrade and moreFug... I only have tickets for one
>>729405481>shipfaggotry???Are you referring to the fact the story has canon couples? Like Artemis/Orion, Oryou/Ryouma, Seigfried/Kriemhild? I'm not sure what you mean here.
>>729404065its one of the least shit gachas, state your reasoning for it being shit. I can level with the writerts being cowards who refuse to kill girls off permanately but overall its way better than 90% of gachashit, both in gameplay and story. its also one of the rare gachas where the mcs actually fucks girls.
>>729402134She NEEDS to be playable eventually so I can MLB her and never take those fat tits and thighs off my home screen.
>>729405481>also the second part of the story has been ongoing for like 8 years because they keep padding with bad to mediocre fillerwell, good newspart 2 is finally overI think
>>729397609Bugsnax, Arcanum, KCD, Days Gone, Life is Strange, Robin Hood The Legend of Sherwood, Gothic, Defender's Quest, Two Worlds, New Vegas, Grounded, Arkham Asylum, MW2, Cuphead, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 1 & 2, LISA, Prey, The Walking Dead seasons 1 & 2, TW2 & 3, just to name a few
>>729405658>gameplaythat's cap
soon
>>729405878some interesting picks there anon
>>729398091>cellphone game with lootboxesOld /v/ would have laughed gacha slop off the board, tranime addicts are secondaries like 99% of all coomers are
>>729404519Bad = kill SexGood = kill anyone else
>>729401431it’s amazing just how hard nikke tries to have good writing only to fail spectacularly at it. it’s like some middle schooler’s idea of what a good story is.
>>729405808Well? How did it end?>>729405640I remember Shuten and Ibuki being shipped with Kintoki and lmost every scene with Sigurd and Bryn was fucking atrociously badly written, the usual Sakuraishit but I don't remember that much about it anymoreThe only good romance was Orion and Artemis because Atlantis was overall GOATED
>>729406213>Well? How did it end?I don't know, I haven't read it yetI haven't logged in into the game in months
>uhm why won't these guys die>uhm why won't these guys get a love triangle, cheat on each other and hate each other>uhm gachas don't end ya know, anyway please read one piece it's 1000 chapters now and will end in a decade I swearpeople are so afraid of giving gachas an inch that they'll just write off an entire medium, when the hook of gachas is to have captivating writing so people play THEIR jpg game rather than other jpg games.
>>729404519If it’s the only thing players talk about, it’s bad. If they simply talk about how good the story is in general without hyperfocusing on the deaths, it’s good. Nikke is the former. Notice how nobody every says anything about Nikke other than that it’s “depressing” and how there’s “deaths”
>>729405957I'm excited for more Index retardsThey're always fun even if they're a blatant ripoff of Wanted
>>729403541BA is BAD lolthe forced edge is literally the most uninspired trash forced steaks plot to attempt you feel invested in a toothless story
>>729397541Reminds me of Dragalia Lost killing the MC's dad, bringing him back and then killing him again.
>>729397609Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
>>729406570I still haven't come to terms with the fact that Dragalia... Lost.
>>729406213Sigurd and Bryn seem fine to me? They're not my favourite couple dynamic but I would hardly call them "shipfaggotry". Shuten/Kintoki is an interesting dynamic in the context of the Heian era cast too. Shuten being a self-serving violent oni with a thing for the innocent heroic guy, and said innocent heroic guy having Raikou as an adoptive mother, with Raikou and Shuten being rivals, is actively interesting I'd say. Orion and Artemis is definitely the best handled romance though yeah
>>729397541>duuuude, if it's not edgy it's shit!!Why are they like this?
>>729398958>after Lostbelt 5>afterLostbelt 5 was shit, after atlantis
>>729406334It's because those deaths are recent and it's been a source of costant arguments between fans who think this is a great thing and those that think it's a dogshit decision they want reversed yesterday.Also every other kino moment either requires context to understand or it feature harem/coomer elements (and those people are obsessed in trying to sell it as "not just a coomer game", so they avoid them), so they default with "it's depressing and shit".
>>729399383No, I don't really care
>>729397712i agree
>>729401586MY FUCKING HEROES!
While we're talking about edge, who did it better?JPhttps://files.catbox.moe/4hboku.mp4CNhttps://files.catbox.moe/efk3mj.mp4
>>729397609garfield: caught in the act
>>729406213Oryo and Ryoma are likeable to me and they would do a trio with (you) so it's okay. Also I hate how sakurai sometimes try to push Mordred and Jekylls, Mordred is mine! Also fuck Caenis, such a sexy design wasted
>>729397609Call of duty
>Oh what a tragedy Brenda Big Tits died>ANYWAY LET'S HAVE A BEACH BLAST TEE HEE BUY OUR BIKINIS!!!!
>>729408359
>>729397541I dont read the story if Noir and Blanc arent part of them though...
>story is good because... muh epic tragedy miseryporn full of death and suffering for no reason!!
>>729408121I hated the whole "hurr durr for (you)" faggotry that FGO gave birth to, every fucking gachafaggot always asks that shitThere was a point I couldn't even post Melusine in the FGO threads because I had 5 samefagging SEAniggers relentlessly telling me she was cuckshit
>>729408648but enough about BA
>>729408359nobody is allowed to have fun since my dog died :(
>>729408958No they should pick a lane. Their cringe events and promotions make no sense if the world is that fucked.
>>729408648mmmm nyes