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Autistic faggot nerds btfo
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>internal consistency is about being realistic
Braindead niggers actually think this way.
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woman tier argument
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Bro why do you care if there's a Ford F150 in the game so what it has dragons and magic it's not trying to be realistic
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>>729403408
OK DragonBorn time to take your covid vaccine. What do you care if it's realistic?
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>>729403408
Everyone makes fun of arguments using this but can never actually refute it.
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>>729403292
They don't know about the world verisimilitude.
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>>729403597
That was a refutation you retard
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>>729403778
Doesnt count
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>>729403223
He didn't know how to respond because he doesn't know the lore and also doesn't care about it. But in order to win, he makes the op a weirdo for even asking
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>>729403408
The car argument has always been a stupid gotcha, a setting can be unrealistic and still have internal consistency
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toddslop is not canon
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>>729403223
True. Where's that image of the 2010 Mazda or some shit in Lord of the Rings because realism isn't important
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>>729403408
Not as funny but better argument would be
>why do people need to eat and breathe and obey gravity if theres dragons and leprechauns?
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>>729404615
>another retard that doesn't understand the difference between realism and internal logic
yawn
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>>729404174
Neither does your retarded opinion. Cya.
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Jet is SUPPOSED to be a drug invented and created in a post Great War world, NOT during Pre-War times.
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>>729404729
>Internal logic
wow good thing thats not what OP posted
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>>729404807
>no u
caught you coping didnt i
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I GET TO POST IT AGAIN ;)
Seethe, r/games fags
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Wasn't that in response to a continuity error? What does "realism" have to do with history of events?
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>>729405228
4chan needs a captcha where you need to verbally say nigger to enter the site
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>>729405201
>>729404174
>>729403597
>image of a car in LOTR makes subhuman leftists seethe
I love it
please
keep seething ;)
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>>729404446
I mean where is the convo supposed to go from there? Is he supposed to say “what’s in the game is inconsistent with previous games and I don’t care”? At the end of the day Fallout is a nonsensical setting where people can’t be assed to pick up skeletons in their house after 50+ years because it would ruin the vibe the game wants to have
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>>729404446
Hines was initially conciliatory about the lore breaking item placements the guy was pointing out and said he would bring it up to the writers but then that guy started complaining more and more about other things so Hines rightfully regarded him as a whiny crybaby and left it at that.
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>>729403223
What is wrong with this faggot's face?
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>>729405293
this place is where queers from bluesky, r/games, and r/pcgaming go to "let off steam" because even they get tired of the purity spiral every once in a while
that's why I like coming here
I get to take potshots at the queers
rpghq and the keewee farms are for actual vidya discussion
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>>729404446
I always thought the tweet was always about the combat shotgun being retarded
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>>729405228
it's hilarious how much that image rustles jimmies
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>>729403223
when the fuck they will release something? fallout 4 has wrinkles now. musics are still epics, but the engine...
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>>729405312
>le reddit chad image
ah you are a tourist at that. keep coping
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>>729405228
Cars are modern technology that don’t make sense in a pre-industrial world. There’s no technological constraint on black people. They’re black people.
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>>729403223
Wasn't the argument about some shit happening in the wrong order for the timeline? It's one thing to have a story with dragons or mutants or whatever, it's another to say that events both happened and later didn't, that shit isn't even a story.
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>>729403223
... inspired by the real world
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>>729403408
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>>729405338
>Hines rightfully regarded him as a whiny crybaby and left it at that.
lol
lmao
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>>729403223
If they don't even care about what they make then why should I as a customer?
I'll find something that was actually made with care instead
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I would agree except mutated or burned people being able to talk isn't even far fetched at all
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>>729403223
Same smile.
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>>729404463
you are missing the point
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>>729403223
if the game is unrealistic why did it have a survival mode
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>>729410730
That fiction should abandon any pretense of consistency or aesthetics because it's not real so anything goes?
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>>729403223
People that don't care about good lore and strong internal consistency should be put to death.
It would raise the general IQ of the population an order of magnitude and create a better society.
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>>729409659
That's not even about "realism" that's just ignoring any logic.

Batman is unrealistic but that's okay because we accept the setting and world. Writing a scene where Batman goes to meet his still alive mother makes no fucking sense within the story unless there's some sort of explanation. You can't just handwave it away going "LOL I DON'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT IT'S A WORLD WITH FLYING DUDES THAT SHOOT EYE LAZERS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REALISTIC".

Chris Hines is just a lazy faggot.
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>>729410730
there is no point. the lotr car argument doesn’t make any sense because there’s no pretense that the internal combustion engine is even a concept in the universe. it’s like asking why there’s no airplanes in my documentary about fish; it’s thematically inconsistent
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>>729411208
>that the internal combustion engine is even a concept in the universe.
LOTR takes place in the distance past of our world: Eru Illuvatar knew of the engine which combusts and wove it into his design.
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>>729403223
Ok because I have this intense need to explain why he's wrong to people who may know subconciously but are unable to verbalise why he's wrong.

It's not about realism in the context of our world.
It's about realism within the context of the rules of the world of Fallout that they set.
The parameters of the game are told to the player through dialogue, through interactions, through the story. It's about being internally consistent within the parameters of those rules.
Not the rules of modern day out of video game real world, realistic.

So realism here, means realistic to it's own story existence.

Once a player understands the internal consistency of the ruleset of the world and lore that you've set they are far more likely to be immersed in your game, to be invested, to be interested, in laymans terms, to play your game and continue playing it.

If you break the rules of your game for "heh quirky joke quest, aren't we funnay guys being quirk chungus! Breaking the fourth wall ova 'ere just like Deadpool!"
All that has been done is ruin the investment, the interest the player has taken into the rule set of your world of your game.
In essence you've made the player feel stupid for taking time to be invested in your game and when a player feels like they've been made a fool, that the joke is on them they quit and are far less likely to return and support your work.
Which is exactly what happened with Fallout 4.
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>>729411415
but what were his tax policies
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>>729411518
to shorten this even further you can just say he devalued the story of the entire franchise. If the writers and developers don’t care about the quality of the game why should the player
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>>729407012
There quite literally was a technological constraint since they weren't able to build caravels that would enable the Age of Sail and the coasts of Africa fucking suck in building deepwater ports.
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>>729411652
If the writers and developers don't care about the quality of the game why should the player
You are correct, this is exactly why the developers being so non-nonchalant about their game is a complete poison.
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>>729409659
>elder scrolls
>appoint people whose literal job it is to ensure the lore isnt broken too much
>fallout
>lol stfu nerds what are you some kind of FAGGOT NERD that likes gay wizards and robot crap?!?!? who gives a shit if we fuck it up, we bought it so it doesnt matter and its gonna be a funko pop now
grim
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>>729411681
Yeah, but what if the structure of the continents are different?
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>>729405269
Correct, but that really doesn't matter. He got cornered with uncomfortable questions, pointing out his inability to follow the lore of the universe at a basic level, so he had to appeal to a fallacy and downplay the issue. This is a problem with all current Fallout writers, since Bethesda has effectively ceased to make design documents for their games and they just make up shit as they go along, including the plot and worldbuilding.
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>>729403223
Pete Hines is probably one of the gayest dudes in the industry over the past 25 years.
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>>729409659
Unreal, he could've had the balls to admit they made some mistakes, but no, the fact that there are unrealistic things in a video game means they can break all logic, internal or no, on a whim
What a bitch
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>>729412470
clearly he tried to be the chad jock in this situation, but he got mocked by the fandom for years over this shit
being a meathead in a nerd fandom really doesn't pay off once the franchise hits the reddit phase and everyone worth their salt leaves
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>>729411986
Which loops around to the existence of automobiles as that is just a step up above a carriage.
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Bro why do you even care????
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>>729413414
He's right.
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>>729403408
This has always been a silly argument because you can't name one single swords and sorcery setting that wouldn't be vastly improved by adding a F150 to the setting.
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>>729413591
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe fantasy game w/ talking dragons and magic
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>>729412470
Every developer has turned into brittle thin-skinned faggots that can't take any criticism and actively hate the people that want to play their games.
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>can't take criticism about their bad writing.
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>>729405228
>what if LOTR was objectively cooler by having Shadowfax be replaced by a BMW
ok?
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>>729405807
>musics are still epics
>that pic
gtfo
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>not interested
aka
>i can't refute your argument but want to pretend I'm simply choosing not to
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>>729412470
Ghouls get healed by radiation. Reasonably if their biology allows for that that they might not need to eat or drink to stay alive.
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>>729415821
That wouldn't prevent him from going completely fucking insane from being trapped in isolation for two centuries.
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>>729415821
Maybe. But my post wasn't about whether Fallout 4's writing adheres comfortably to the lore, it was about Pete Hines' attitude
I'd have respected him more if he had come up with any explanation that makes some sort of sense
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>>729416221
>That wouldn't prevent him from going completely fucking insane from being trapped in isolation for two centuries
How would you know? Have you ever turned into a ghouls and been stuck in a fridge for 200 years?House was stuck in a pod for 200 years and some people regard him as one of the shrewdest characters in the series

>>729416234
>I'd have respected him more if he had come up with any explanation that makes some sort of sense
He's not the writer for the series, he definitely should not be making up theories about it
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>>729416785
>House was stuck in a pod for 200 years and some people regard him as one of the shrewdest characters in the series
House could actually do stuff. He had some capability to observe and interact with the world. The kid was essentially in a prison cell where he couldn't even move.
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>>729413219
A helicopter cannot operate below the tree canopy.
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>>729415821
>Ghouls get healed by radiation. Reasonably if their biology allows for that that they might not need to eat or drink to stay alive.
But they do have those needs.
Source: Fallout 1 main quest
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>>729413414
How many times do you think Todd jerked off to pretty kitty?
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>>729417702
>House could actually do stuff. He had some capability to observe and interact with the world
Yeah let's just forget that he's an actual human and it's machines allowing him to have an abnormally extended lifespan compared to ghouls being naturally long lived
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to be fair bethesda doesnt have writers and going into their games for writing quality is weird

Now I wish they had writers, I wish they cared about things but they prioritize other things.
You can play cdpr titles or something instead.
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>>729403597
There's been plenty of refutations, you retards just tune them out. Chief among them being that plowing through a swarm of fucking goblins or medieval soldiers in a car would actually be pretty fucking awesome.
Army of Darkness had Ash fighting deadites in his modified oldsmobile and it was fucking great
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>>729417997
Are all the super mutants in the Fallout series exactly alike? There could be variations of mutations giving certain areas different traits.
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>>729405228
Counterpoint
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>post apoc
>talking mutants
>talking ghouls
I think it's all realistic.
Does this guy even made anything good or he just ruins other people's work?
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>>729403408
is the ford f150 a tranny or a black man in a relationship with a white woman?

i'm confused
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>>729418527
>you retards just tune them out.
dogshit opinions should always be filtered out, you should know this
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>>729405293
wait, that's actually a really based idea
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>ifunny dot co
>it's not funny at all
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>>729403408
You people say this, but I always see that wizard pulling out a glock from his robe and shooting a guy posted all the time as a hype moment.
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>>729403223
He was right then and he continues to be.
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>>729405293
https://youtu.be/LkdNWnG6hXo?si=kY-4EbyeX8E382pb&t=70
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>>729403223
FO4 was the best entry in the franchise hands down. Out close to 1000 hours in it. Would do it again too
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>>729413414
Starfield proves that he's ultimately just a boring football boomer. He and Emil and Pete are as anti-art as a person can get.



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