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The most subversive and rebellious punk creative decision in any game in the last 15 years

NO ONE else would dare to put something like this in a high profile game
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>>729414256
this shit cracks me up every time I see it. basado af lmao.
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>>729414256
>getting cucked is le good actually
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>>729414256
>why doesn't my juvenile misogynist incel game receive the same critical acclaim as Expedition 33?!
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>>729415260
Because Expeidiotion33 is made for normies
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>>729415260
See, it's so daring it triggered this anon
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Mushoku Tensei and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are both peak fiction. Both games have the main character get 3 wives. In order to have peak fiction the main character must acquire 3 wives.
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>>729414256
I hate it but I can't deny the king energy radiating from it. It's like a deviantart fanfic scribble except proudly professional.
>This is my OC Hiro Lightwings, and his wives
It's just amazing.
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>>729415864
Media damnit now everyone will make fun of me...
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>people never having children of their own
>a-at least that fictional character had sex so the net positivity in the world increased
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>>729416075
>in a world full of anti-natalist propaganda someone made a pro-natalist story
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>>729414256
Xenoblade is a Japanese government psychological operation designed to increase the country's birth rate by indoctrinating the younger generation. It is probably a leftover project from the Abe administration. The is another very on the nose scene on XB3 about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwnQE0Qw0FE
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>>729414256
>didn't make a baby with the robot girl
lame
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>>729415864
In Grandia II the MC gets two wives. Is it good enough?
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>>729414256
I bet you think Pneuma surviving her sacrifice and miraculously splitting into Pyra and Mythra in seperate bodies was also rebellious. lol. The fact is that Takahashi is a spineless waifufag, but so are most Xenoblade fans. Takahashi giving Rex a 3 girl harem is the opposite of rebellious, it's catering to the most amount of people in the fanbase. A true rebelious move is going through with what made the most sense naratively, which is Pneuma/Pyra/Mythra dying and Rex settling with Nia. You see hints of this storyboard in XB3 with how prominent Nia is, yet Pyra and Mythra aren't even mentioned by name in the DLC.
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>>729414256
>XC2fags spamming the same exact thread since July 2022
How tiresome
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>>729417369
Nia being a queen didn't make much sense, either, bro. It was just another instance of Takahashi being a waifufag. He wanted a queen on both sides representing the original games, and he chose Nia over either of the blade sisters for REASONS. Honestly, it'd have made way more sense if Zeke was king.
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>>729414256
I am really tired of this. The real fans saw this 2-3 years before the EN release because of the Famitsu development leaks. Fuck the game was out for close to a year in JP and this never got any click bait engagement. Everyone who played the game was cool with it and happy for this reveal of X3.
It was only at the time of the EN release did it truly show how fucked the West is that they don't think this poly ending is cool. The guy deserves his harem 100%
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>>729417369
Sometimes you just have to take a step back and stop applying your western Christian morality and social mores to fantastical settings, especially if they're imagined by non-Christian developers. Whose to say marriage is strictly monogamous in Rex's world? With how Blades are bound to drivers until death, there's probably tons of harem like relationships in the setting.
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>>729414256
This was actually pure hedonistic laziness and destruction of good story telling. “Lmao the mc gets everything including both personalities of the schizo girl at the same time” completely destroys any drama and makes your narrative a teenage fanfic not an interesting plot
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>>729415260
doesnt Verso fuck all of the female characters he is not related to?
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>>729417349
Only if there a 3rd member possibly lined up, like that weird chick in Skies of Arcadia
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>>729418428
Yeah the evil white male should've been made out to be a stupid loser that no one loves while women achieve everything, THAT would've been daring and brave
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>>729417349
>gets two wives
Was it confirmed somewhere? I remember that the ending was a bit too open ended
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>>729417876
What the fuck are you talking about?
Neither XC2 nor XC3 released early in Japan.
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Look at that fucker
He won
He actually won
His arms?
Built for uppies
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>>729418428
While I don't entirely disagree, Takahashi wrote himself into a bit of a corner. Pyra's whole existence was rooted in a mind shattering traumatic event. Mythra killed an entire continent. With her own hand. Yes she was fighting against anime Lucifer. Yes it was war. But she still did it. That blood is on her hands. Hence the creation of Pyra to replace her. Pyra was designed to be everything she isn't. Mythra is cold and militant so Pyra is warm and motherly. Mythra can't cook for shit, Pyra is damn near a chef.

But most importantly Pyra is the opposite to Mythra in every way because Mythra could not continue to live with that level of guilt. If the narrative chose Pyra then that would be proof that Mythra was right. Mythra really shouldn't exist. And she would be sandblasted away for Pyra. If the narrative chose Mythra then Pyra will have to accept that she was never supposed to exist. She was only made as a dumpster for Mythra's grief and now that her role is fulfilled, she can just die without ever being genuinely happy.

So if you're Takahashi and you love both these characters: what do you do? Save them both.
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>>729418592
Yes, that would be stunning and brave
>>729415139
Based and cuck pilled
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>>729415260
I have a better question, why are you on this board? Why do you think we give a shit what the journos like?
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>>729418852
And then you snuggle them silly and make them mothers and hormonal bombs that only Mr protagman can defuse
With his dick and bellyrubs
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>>729414256
trails fandom seethed so much when this pic came out
they got btfo'd by xenochads so hard
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>>729414256
I know it's totally headcanon but I kind of wish Dirk actually was Mythra's kid, and they ran with it as a concept. I think it would be really interesting.
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>>729419237
Reanbros...
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>>729419237
Are you even really a Trails fan if you're not constantly getting shit on?
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>>729418684
Not really, he just fucks away somewhere for Reasons.
But really, both girls say something along the lines of "he will come back to me". It can't be interpreted any other way, especially since they have pretty much the same deal as Pyra/Mythra.
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>>729414256
It’s based as fuck but I can’t take the ending seriously because of it. It’s just so retarded but like I said incredibly based
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>>729419262
Haha...
I like teacher a lot but witch lady made me actual feel shit holy fuck
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>>729414256
It's just a shame he's a cringe as fuck retard. But at least he's not a faggot, I guess.
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>he fantasizes about his waifus getting impregnated by a bigger stronger man
Cringe
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>>729419389
Based, teacher is hot but Emma is still better my prefferred one
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>>729414256
>pisses off all extreme ends of the political spectrum
Is it even possible to get more kino than that?
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>>729414256
>NO ONE else would dare to put something like this in a high profile game
Not quite true, there are a couple of high-profile games that sexualized 16-year-old girls openly and generated quantities of Reddit seethe that were previously thought by scientists to be unobtainable. Research is currently underway to figure out how to power a warp drive off of this.
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>>729419321
It could also be that he dumped both of them
>especially since they have pretty much the same deal as Pyra/Mythra
Yeah, XB2 clearly took some inspiration from Grandia. Millenia is basically Pyra but useful while Elena is Mythra but a healer
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>>729414256
I never played it but this really is funny. Also Rex really grew up.
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>>729419720
>It could also be that he dumped both of them
thats retarded
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>>729415864
Brown ESL hands typed this poly shit.

Real men are happy with their one true love (and cheating on her regularly)
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>>729419825
I agree
Elena is the only one who deserves to be dumped
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>>729419720
>XB2 clearly took some inspiration from Grandia
I thought that to but I'm certain Pyra/Mythra are a mix of Fei/Id and Elly/Miang
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When will the deluge of isekai haremslop actually make the jump into gaming?
By that I mean proper harem ends instead of choose your own waifu.
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>>729420205
I haven't played gears but both the plot and party of XB2 basically screamed Grandia 2
Even the final bad guy was partically Amalthus
Granas vs Valmar was the same as Meyneth vs Zanza
But maybe all of that was ripped from Gears or those are just standard JRPG cliches, I don't know
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>>729420323
Duel Savior on the fucking PS2 is literally an isekai savior story and literally has a harem route/end
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>>729417752
3's just kind of shit from a conceptual standpoint. If you don't buy into the whole natalism push, all you've got is a story that effectively says "We're moving onto new stories", which really doesn't need to be a thing. Anyone who's watched Square rape the everloving fuck out of FF7 over the past three decades knows that you should move onto things in your bigass RPG franchise.

Don't make a big stink about how you're moving onto new stories, just fucking do it. That was the expected progression anyways. Hell, how much Rexharem gets gassed out and X:DE being the laziest fucking way to jam everything from X into the main universe, I'm starting to have doubts that Monolith actually WANTS new things.
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>>729420903
>X:DE being the laziest fucking way to jam everything from X into the main universe
I get anything less than X2 is a travesty to you people, but DE is FAR from the laziest thing they could have done.
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>>729421020
Chapter 13 sucked and Al is a shit character
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>>729415864
Add wheel of time to this and you have the 3 wives trifecta
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>>729420837
thanks for the rec, but it is weird se have more blatant haremalop before 2015 than after
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>>729421020
>Plot completely rewritten at the 11th hour so that notRex can show up and everyone suck his cock
>"Bro, I had crazy visions of another universe. It was like I was in THAT ONE SCI-FI MOVIE, 2001. HOLY SHIT, YOU GUYS I'M SUCH AN AUTEUR! Let's just go there. Mira is fucked."
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>>729421071
>>729421157
>"it's not the laziest thing they could have done so YOU MUST THINK IT WAS GOOD REEEEEEEE!"
See the difference between you and I, is that I never thought X would get ANY direct continuation ever and they would MCU portal them into the main series at best.
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>>729421281
>they would MCU portal them into the main series at best.
That's more or less what they did.
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>>729421281
>It wasn't literally unexplained so don't criticize the sliver of effort that went into writing
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>>729421356
I'm not saying don't criticize it. All I said is it could have been lazier and you sperged out about why it was bad instead of even acknowledging what I actually said kek
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>>729421482
It'd be hard to get a lazier means of achieving that endpoint than X:DE's 13th Chapter without actually not even trying to write anything.
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>>729421609
>I didn't like it so it's literally the worst thing ever
I mean shit you got me there
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>>729418852
The correct option was to just delete Pyra once Mythra woke up, or to have Pyra and Mythra fuse into a new singular entity named Mythra

I don't even like Mythra that much but the more I think about it the more I see how damaging Pyra is to the story
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>>729421609
>>729421281
>>729421071
>>729421157
I actually bought X DE because I enjoyed the original and wanted to see the new stuff but never got round to clearing it, what did it do?

Does it connect to Xenosaga like 3's DLC did?
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did this game even sell 1 million?
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>>729421923
It bookends Mira and expands upon the Samaar stuff while leaving the future unclear.
There is a small reference to 1/2/3 and most people think the X crew travels to the new world from the end of Future Redeemed although it's not confirmed by any means yet. Nothing direct with Saga.
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>>729414256
The shot that singlehandedly killed the franchise, for good or for bad is depending on who you ask
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>>729421923
The ending is just a slapdash way of getting anything from X they may want to use in the future into 1/2's continuity.
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>>729421953
2 sold 2.7m globally, 3 sold 1.7m globally. It's incredible that Bamco passed on a Xenosaga HD trilogy for .hack//G.U. Last Recode which sold a whopping 300k units and is worse than the PS2 versions.
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>>729421923
>>729422056
Just to add on it actually covers pretty much all the stuff that was cliffhangered in X.
>what's up with Mira
>the mysterious guy at the end
>Elma's old partner
>Samaar
>the void guys
There's a good chance a lot of what was in the new story was stuff they intended for a possible X sequel but had to speed along since they weren't making an entire game.
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>>729422198
Well all the main stuff.
Side character cliffhangers like Yelv don't get anything.
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I still can't believe that XDE actually added Space Jannies
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Are there any games where the main character is actually done right? Most jarpegs either focus too much on your bland (and usually male) self-insert who makes the stories feel so boring as every cutscene is about how cool and smart you are, or they focus too much on the characters themselves and end up making fragile players feel cucked somehow. Literally no in between. Is there any game that treats the protagonist in a respectable way without making the story unimaginably boring? Or are self-inserts inherently bad writing?
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>>729415260
I love how E33 fags will see any anime girl and start spiraling into seething rage
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>>729422471
Tidus in FFX
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>>729422471
>or they focus too much on the characters themselves and end up making fragile players feel cucked somehow
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>729422527
I love how you retards will see a blatant falseflag and respond like it's a genuine post.
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>>729422198
>>729422086
>>729422056
Did they do ANYTHING with New Tokyo and the transforming cop cars and other shit from the artbook or was X2 canned completely
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>>729422594
>Did they do ANYTHING with New Tokyo and the transforming cop cars and other shit from the artbook or was X2 canned completely
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>>729418079
Nobody’s talking about religion, you dumb faggot.
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>>729422594
>Did they do ANYTHING with New Tokyo and the transforming cop cars and other shit from the artbook
lmao no, nothing at all.
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>>729414256
In semi-relsted news, Soraya Saga retiring from game industry.
https://noisypixel.net/soraya-saga-retires-from-game-writing/
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>>729422826
She never even wrote anything for Xenoblade.
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>>729422594
>New Tokyo
no
>transforming cop cars
the skell from the original X dlc?
>other shit from the artbook
yeah some of it
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>>729422826
>semi-related
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>>729418428
Counterpoint: it's funny
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>>729421923
The reason XDE failed is because a lot of those “scrapped ideas they went back to” had already been gotten back to. The old concepts for what X would’ve been were recycled into what 2 is now. X isn’t Monolith fleshing out the story the way it should’ve ended, it’s them pulling another completely separate ending out of their ass since the original concept was already thrown into 2
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>>729422826
Bamco retired her in 2004, she probably didn't get the memo.
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I appreciate that fags have finally given up the "X is still separate" cope
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>>729423114
It was separate until they gracelessly teleported the cast into the the universe of 1-3.
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>>729423114
Anyone who experienced Gears, Saga, and Blade 1 who thought X stood alone is genuinely retarded.
>>729423165
point and laugh
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>>729423165
I wish we got X2 anyway because the plot still would have been 'we have to leave mira' and 'here's Al!' and you guys would have had 10x more content to seethe about
>>729423208
>point and laugh
Gladly
I've always loved X the most and it has been tough being lumped in with these retards
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>>729423285
>>729423208
It was literally separate. XDE teleports them to a separate universe.
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>>729423342
Mira has been doomed since 2017
grow up
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>>729423401
Are those goalposts heavy?
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>>729423568
Since when have X purists cared about goalposts? Just keep looking at your concept art.
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>>729418592
>>729418960
>>729415139
>man has three wives
>le actually this badass guy is le cucked xd
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>>729423648
>n-no u
Concession accepted.
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>>729424047
Yeah yeah I'm sure we'll see you assblasted in these threads for another 10 years
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>>729418507
Nope.
He CAN only have a single one night stand with Sciel, who still loves her dead husband and locks into the first opportunity to bring him back to life.

Lune is too autistic to care about relationships but out of the two human boys she looks like she likes Gustave better.
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>>729424207
If you dont fuck Sciel a second time you can get a one night stand with Lune
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>>729423285
>>729423208
samefag
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>>729424420
You've activated my trap card.
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>>729424420
Boo!
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>>729424497
>Takahashi dickriders actually thought this was a well-written character
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>>729421910
Don't justify Pyra's darkest thoughts like that
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>>729424798
Pyra was right
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>>729414256
>high profile game

top zozzle
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>>729415929
meds
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>>729424861
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>>729425026
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>>729425026
I'm seeing double here... four Pyras!!
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>>729425064
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>>729414256
Why did Meliafags get so angried by this?
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>>729414256
Xenoblade 3 in general is a very rebellious game for the time it was made in, in the throes of the era of woke, a game that just screams MARRY AND REPRODUCE is a pretty brave statement.
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I wanted to play Xeno 3 but people praising it for being anti-woke because it gives you three wives makes me not want to play it. A shame, I enjoyed 2
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>>729418852
I think the whole allegory is pretty self-explanatory, Mythra acknolwedged her flaws and shortcomings and created a being that is her polar opposite to her thinking she would be a better fit to guide the world, but in doing so she created another person just as incomplete as her.
Then, when Pneuma happens she SEEMS like the perfect combination of both, all of their good points and none of their weaknesses, but then she dies for the world, and the incomplete, imperfect Pyra and Mythra are given a new life and a chance to grow and self-actualize.
They're not supposed to be automatically perfect, that is weird and artificial and impossible (Alvis and Malos weren't any better), they're supposed to be people, fallible and prone to error and also capable of learning from that, so Pneuma is removed so they can be their true imperfect selves.
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>>729425329
what the fuck are you talking about. how is a photo that shows up for 5 seconds in the ending about the X2 cast somehow mean the game is 'giving you three wives'? rex isn't the main character of 3 you know
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>>729425329
Thanks for not playing it, otherwise I'm sure you would have been sitting here complaining about the brown 24/7
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>>729416990
>Some weird pisslam polygamy shit
>Pro-natalist story
The absolute state lmao
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>>729425329
3 does not give you 3 wives, 2 does, 3 is about 3 separate couples.
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>>729425429
I haven’t played it so I wouldn’t know, I’m judging it based on how anons choose to talk about it. I never hear anything about it except how it’s anti-woke.
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>>729425492
It's not anti-woke, it's unconcerned with retarded current year politics and focused on its own message, that message just happens to be one that angers fat, rainbow-haired histrionics who are incapable of self-reflection.
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>>729425492
You're not very smart are you
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>>729425202
Getting married and having kids is extremely rebellious in real life. Once I knew someone who said they were marrying their girlfriend and everyone spat on him and kicked him as he walked by from that day on. When he had kids it was even worse. He was fired from his job and sent to a concentration camp. It’s true.
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>>729414256
>even the white tiger have his share
damn!
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>>729425547
Then why do anons say it’s anti-woke? Are they retarded?
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can you guys stop trying to convince the /pol/fag to play XC3 and just let him be retarded
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>>729425118
Obsessed
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>>729414256
I don't get it
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>>729425457
>3 is about 3 separate couples.
*1 couple
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>>729425628
Is this your first day on /v/?
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>>729425628
It's woke. There's a black guy in the party who has a white girl love interest
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>>729425628
They say so because it can be interpreted as such given how anti-intuitive, anti-science and anti-nature modern wokery can get, but it was very evidently not made with that idea in mind, the game does not beat you over the head with real world politics, it's not a direct critique, its message is just one of family and legacy, something that wouldn't seem fundamentally offensive to someone who isn't a perpetually-online marxist troon regardless of their actual poltical alignment, it's just that the game isn't pushing any overt agendas, it's a tale of people from the far flung future learning about basic facts of life.
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>>729425118
>angried
Good morning saar!
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>>729425738
>>729425834
I shall play it then, thank you anons
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>>729426102
Why would you want to play it? 3 is shit.
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>>729414256
Someone photoshop the babies black for trolling
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>>729426157
Nah just do Mythra's because it's the only one we haven't seen older
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>>729426150
I liked the other ones
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>>729426204
Me too, but I did not like 3 at all.
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>>729414256
I don't like it because all it really does is shit all over the feelings someone experiences when they first play Xenoblade 2 and get to the stuff with Nia revealing who she truly is, her confession, and then all of that being thrown aside because Rex and his one-track mind can only think about Pyra/Mythra. Genuinely, Pyra/Mythra fusing into one being should have remained, and Pneuma should have died, and then Rex either becomes a hobo like Simon, or he gets with Nia, then years later cutting to a shot of the core crystal awakening with a cut to the credits to give suspense. Making it so that the ending literally has no weight because Pyra/Mythra just reappear like 5 minutes after the core crystal pops out of his chest and then having Nia push Rex towards him makes all of that strike so much less strongly because you can tell that everything after came specifically due to the fans connecting far more with Nia than they did with Pyra/Mythra. They added a main menu screen with Nia showing up to hold hands with them, and then this happened, which just seems so incredibly unnecessary. It's there to pander, nothing more, thus making it bad in terms of storytelling, because at that point, the fans, those being outside of the creative process, influenced the strokes of the author's pen. The people who taut this as some kind of "own" or "diss" or whatever just seem like people who weren't even invested in Xenoblade as a story, and just wanted to post something that they thought would "piss off" the libtards.
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>>729425942
But enough about all the Meliajeets shitting the threads!
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>>729426298
You're such a fucking schizo.
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>>729414860
it's the best
all these people claiming xenoblade is some deep story and shit, and then they drop this to go "nope, it always was a weeb harem game series"
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>>729426251
>and then all of that being thrown aside because Rex and his one-track mind can only think about Pyra/Mythra
But it wasn't thrown aside, that's the point, that's what everyone thinks because they're all thinking that Rex can't possibly fuck only one of them, Rex is unburdened by those ideas, when he says he loves her and everyone else he means it with all his heart, he's not rejecting her, he's saying she's as important to him as Pyra and Mythra.
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>>729426331
>screenshot of Meliafags falseflagging
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>>729426497
are the Meliafags in the room with us right now?
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>>729414256
Whew! Freaky how stuff like this could get you shot today.
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>>729425492
>I haven’t played it so I wouldn’t know
The truest words spoken of every Xeno "fan" from 1998 to current day. It makes sense that Xeno would replace Mother as Nintendo's main JRPG franchise, nobody fucking plays either but pretends they do
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What the hell did they mean by this?



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