Just got Wrath of the Righteous for cheap off the steam sale and there's a fuck ton of archetypes, what's a good fun one for a first playthrough?
>>729418130Regular ass fighter is goodand also thematic, the angel myth is overpowered.
>>729418130A playthrough is a bajillion hours so pick something you think sounds cool because you’ll be stuck with it a longass time
>>729418264Is Armiger fine? Kinda going with what >>729418342 said since Hellknight sounds cool.I have no prior experience with Pathfinder.
>>729418407As the other anon said, if you think it's cool then stick with it, there's endless discussions about meta so it doesn't matter.
>>729418130Play the "roguelike" expansion until you find something you like, then play that.
>>729418130auto attacks > all
>>729418130Oracle -> Angel mythic is the ultimate lawful/neutral good power fantasy.
>>729418130Magus or paladin or any melee oriented class with some magic.
>>729418130Not rogue that’s for sure>>729418342Real, I gave up when I looked how far I was at around 120h and I was only halfway.
>>729418130>Sex: Male>Race: Human>Class: Cleric>Subclass: Crusader>Myth Path: Angel
>>729418130>rpg thread>I'm a retard. How do I play baby's first video game?
>>729418130A Gendarme Cavalier is great fun and a rare variation on the typical physical warriorJust make sure to always charge when able and pick every charge bonus feat to multiply your damage
>>729422014thisit's fucking stupidly overpowered
>>729418407Armiger and Hellknight are legitimately among the worst options in the game. You're better off playing a fighter, cavalier or paladin if you want to rp as a knightly dude. Inquisitor is also a good choice if you want to play an edgy boy
Paladin is good right away and gets better as you go. The whole story is about a crusade against demons, which all your feats and spells have bonuses against. You have a lot of options in combat and it's thematically satisfying. Angel is a natural progression and is also very strong.
Cleric (or other full divine caster) Angel route probably the best experience.Also, if you want for combat to be very stupid then slap yourself with size increase buffs, use a longer range 2-handed melee weapon and get the Lunge feat and mount. Your melee range will be 30 feet.
Sounds like you really have to cheese your way through this game huh. What a shame.
>>729422384Not exactly. It's more like that the combat is poorly balanced in general. Encounters are rarely actually designed and more just slapped onto a map. There's only a couple of fights that I would say you actively have to cheese. There's an optional fight with a monster called 'Playful Darkness' which is just an enemy with massively, massively inflated stat numbers. 1000 hp, a ton of permanent buffs it has for no reason, 7 attacks per round at +70 which all deal over 50 damage eat, immune to a ton of things etc., and is just a really fucking lazily constructed encounter. Something like that you can't actually *not* cheese because there's actually no way to not cheese it.
>>729422384Thats only if you play on the hardest difficulty like a try hard.>>729422762PD is optional. Didn't even bother last time I played.
why didn't anyone tell me child of the manticore was this fun
>>729422762a)Actual minmaxed parties can kill PD normally, not just 'Mark of Justice+Swarms' stalling etcb)you can come back 2 levels and mythics later and Pummel it with far less effort
>>729423140Because nobody wants to play as a freak. Give that to the mongrel you chose
>>729423201>Actual minmaxed partiesWhich is cheesing. Playing statistically optimized setups is cheese, my guy.
>>729423263>Because nobody wants to play as a freakI do. It's perfect for my trickster run.
>>729423267Optimized party/spell loadout is no tcheeze.It's the difference between knowing ow to properly do a fight in BG2 or setting up traps before a fight that initiates after dialogue and they go off all at once.
>>729423331>Playing anything but drunken monkNGMI
>>729423398monk is the gay virgin class
>>729423441Only if you dip 1 level in it.
>>729423462It doesn't matter if dip inside the bussy, or go all in, it's still gay.
>>729422014>clericSorry but I like women
>>729418130>want to be evil>evil path locks out all the cutiesnot wotr related but owlcat relatedbut im sure wotr related
>>729425227>Argenta >cutelmao she looks like a dude in a bad white wig
>>729424705In this game, the Crusader Cleric is less "dude in a skirt" and more "DEUS VULT."
>>729425227You cannot even romance her in any path you degenerate
>>729418130I know you don't have an option to customize your portrait, so how do you guys get around that when trying to self insert as yourself in these games? Do you use one of the pre-set ones, do you use AI or something else?
Sex with Wenduag!!!!!
>>729427820t. Swen
>>729427774>Self-insertI don't, really.I just think a basic role-playing base and go from there.For example, Angel of Retribution run
>>729427774I load up a picture of George Costanza from Seinfeld because I don't give a fuck.
>>729422384That's a feature, not a bug. The main appeal of crpg gameplay is optimizing the build of your character and then watch them obliterate everything.
>>729427820sex with Nurah Dendiwhar
>monk>legendI can easily 1v1 any ones character itt and it wouldn't even be close
>>729418130Generally speaking, it depends on your Mythic PathAngel: Oracle or Cleric. Merge your Spellbook at the end of Act 3, and then spam Bolt of the Justice to shitstomp on every enemy in the game, all while having every single one of your buffs last for 24 hours (even your per a round spells after you Caster Level 25)Azata: Either pick a martial and grab the mythic super powers that buff your melee capabilities, or, go for a DC Caster (basically a caster that specializes in crowd control) and pick up the mythic abilities like Zippy Magic, Best Jokes, and Favorable MagicTrickster: Any martial, just make sure you grab improved critical and the mythic improved critical featsDemon: Kineticist (fire + earth deadly earth build and then grab Aspect of Kalavakus, see my webm for a demonstration) or a melee charge build (ideally with Instinctual Warrior, Primalist, or Cavalier and then grab Aspect of Kalavakus and Mythic Charge) Lich: Sorcerer or Wizard and then merge your spellbook at the end of Act 2. IMO, go with either Angel or Demon for your first run. They have the most content. Do be warned, you HAVE to be evil if you stay as a Demon in Act 5.
>>729418130depends what mythic path you want to follow to be honestangel paladin/cleric is a good for a first run though
>>729418130>steam>gotnah, you just rented itmeanwhile i own it coz i got it from GOG
>>729427820t. the entire mongrel village
be prepared for retarded fantasy cliches and some of the worst companions ever in a fantasy game
>>729418130The most thematic and "canon" feeling playthrough is a cleric crusader going down the angel mythic path.
>>729427774Portrait packs that probably contain or are all AI images
>>729422762I killed it in 2 turns with a fire kinetic sharpshooter.
>>729431726This but human demon legend
My first playthrough was as a summoner on core difficulty and it was a god awful experience since I had to spam the battle field with summons that did fuck all on their turn and just tanked hits so the rest of my party could do something. Then I played a martial Inquisitor with a pet and had a much better experience.
>>729432189that one looks more like it belongs in divinity than pathfinder
>>729432565Close enough
>>729418130If you're playing on normal or under anything will do. Maintain balanced party composition and do your buffs. Min-maxing autism with Pathfinder games is propagated by people playing on higher difficulties.
>>729418264>playing a melee class without pounceWhat's wrong with you?
>>729418264This is high level PF. Playing a "normal dude" is out of place.
>>729432834Meh.You can ride Bismuth, have a skald, play Kitsune base, start battle with dimensional door or just CC and fighter pops in.
>>72943288760 strength fighter with mythic whatever applied is not normal
>>729432834You should always have a Skald if you are running melee
>>729418130>what's a good fun one for a first playthrough?angel whatever, it makes the most sense of all the paths and has the most fleshed out and coherent writing everything else is >oh you're evil/retarded also...? well....fuck you I guess, lets fight to the death >>729430675Incorrect. You purchased a software license on gog. You do not own the software.
Is the "new" ranger meant to get pounce when riding the hippogryph?I remember dropping my last playthrough after noticing my dual wielding ranger was doomed
>>729418342>>729421854Took me about 160 hours having beaten Kingmaker beforehand. I used real time with pause for nearly all the encounters though - there were only a couple of encounters like the swarm guy that I had to switch to turn based for. I imagine if I did most of the game turn based it would have taken about double the amount of time
>>729433452Dual wield ranger is pretty strong though, especially Demonslayer or Freebooter. Did you build it wrong?
>>729433789Seriously. Being able to switch between rtwp and turn based is awesome.
>>729433789I did the tavern defence on turn based once and it lasted over an hour
>>729434406It took me 20 mins.You just need to make sure to kill the alchemists quickly.
>>729434406Ah, yes, forgot about that, must have mentally blocked it out - I played core rules difficulty and it felt like it was physically impossible rtwp
>>729434348I was pretty grumpy when Larian announced BG3 would be turn based only - I love the game, but a lot of the encounters are just too easy to justify having to slog through them turn based and the game feels way longer than it should be considering the amount of content. Weirdly I didn't get that feeling with Divinity OS 2, though I did a bit with OS1
>>729418130Dual Cursed Oracle Angel is a classic. Get a nature domain, a wolf pet, a reach weapon of some kind, preferably fauchard, get a second domain (War), merge spellbooks and you will become an unkillable machine of death and rape.
>>729434583The biggest issue is that you don't really get a chance to buff properly before the fight. I just try to use scrolls and potions beforehand and then focus the alchemists when I can.
1 arcane enforcer5 wizard10 EKrest into wizardtake lich path and merge spellbooksdisengage all safety protocols
>>729418130>asking other people to make descisions for youwhy don't you ask chatgtp you fucking tool?
>>729434406Not sure if that was ever fixed, but at some point you could get absolutely stuck because every places where alchemists could spawn were blocked and not enough of them to end combat were on the map yet.
>>729434952I prefer Sorcerer Signifer->EK to have heavy armor and pretend I am Lord Soth
>>729418130Remember that Pathfinder is a retarded system. In our reality, the tankiest you can be is full plate. In this setting the tankiest you can be is wearing nothing at all and being an acrobat. In such a world, realistically, armies would be filled with nudist monks as front line. It's a mongoloid world, where the things you expect would hold true really will never ever hold true. So if you're going in as a new player, you should really spend a few hours looking at builds and figuring out how to powergame, because the encounters you face are of two kinds: laughably easy (requires no build, no effort, and presents no challenge), or they will be overwhelming (requires superb builds, meta knowledge of the encounter, and/or save scumming). The creators of this game all had severe intellectual disabilities, which is why many classes aren't finished, or are bugged in such ways that they don't really work. You must also be resistant to poor writing. The antagonists in this game sound like Bond villains, and the dialogue has a bunch of modern lingo thrown into it that doesn't make sense in the context the game exists in.You are in for a retarded ride OP. Hope you have your safety helmet on.
The Pathfinder game's inflate stats enough you can't just rp the game and you have to play something optimized. There's a point like 70 hours into the game and I'm doing my 9000th ludo crit as a sword saint trickster and I'm just like "this isn't fun".
>>729422762you can kill pd normally by having bunch of energy channeler classes with those bonus channel damage headpieces, then just spam damage undead positive channel. at least on core or lower.
>>729435254I killed him by summoning a ton of creeping doom and hoping I could stay alive long enough
>>729435197>In our realityDIsregarded.But to humour you further, and ignorin the 'realistically>armies would be filled with nudist monks as front lineWell trained monks or any class are a rarity and you'd get better performance out of 100 low level guys with armor than wiithout.Balance of the game aside, these kind of arguments are pants on head retarded
>>729435240Up to core, you can play any archetype pure to 20 and be very viable.Even pure Rogue, which is the only option I'd consider borderline trap.
>>729435240I just hate the buffing rigmarole. having to apply death wards individually every single time drives me crazy.
>>729435316>DIsregardedThat's why you're a mongoloid.>Well trained monks or any class are a rarityIs it difficult to have 47 chromosomes? If a commander of an army realized that you could just send soldiers to be trained by monks in some weird temple, and that that training would create super soldiers, then that would be put in practice almost immediately. Know why China never bothered having their armies trained by Tibetan monks? Because those warriors fold immediately when facing actual soldiers.>Well trained monks or any class are a rarity and you'd get better performance out of 100 low level guys with armor than wiithoutYou get better performance by selecting the most agile soldiers and giving them fencing lessons in rapier than you would ever get giving them armor. In order for a commoner to be a fighter, they need light - medium - heavy armor, plus shield training. In order to make a dex tank you need... Nothing. Just dex, and you're done. Dex can give you AC, saves, intiative and damage. Strength can just give you damage and a bit more carry weight (which will be used for the inefficient armour and heavy weapons).>Balance of the game asideAnother mongoloid opinion. A new player will try to figure out the game they're playing. If all features of reality are null and void, then that will lead to frustration.
>>729435254>>729435279I couldn't even hit it when I first encountered it - discovered you could come back late in the game and I facerolled it
>>729435595People who have stats, capability and mentality to be trained and achieve something beyond lv2 and not be commoners are rare. People who hit lvs 10+ are heroic.You do not get an army of monks.REALISTICALLY. People who start with 16+ dex are no just hanging around.So no, your retarded reasoning does not work.And you need to learn how to comprehend the text you parse.I said 'balance aside' to focus on your retarded tangent about realism.The game does have balance issues, just not what I wanted to focus on at the time.Also, heavy armor is perfectly viable. Dex tanking being better is a different story.Retard
>>729418130Is there any game that even comes close to WotR in terms of stakes and epicness? (not to be too reddit about it)I was hesitant to play Angel mythic path because I don't really like lawful good, but I'm glad I did - fucking up Deskari in Iz was one of the most satisfying moments in gaming for me. Genuinely lol'd later in the game when I pretty much one-shot echo of deskari in the final section.
>>729435731Dunno what you fags are arguing about but heavy armor tanking being viable really depends on difficulty. It's marginally better at the very start of the game on all difficulties if you don't make your character a tank but that's about it.
I can play up to 20 hours of this and kingmaker at a time but any more than that and it's uninstall time to be resumed a year later
>>729435731>lv2 and not be commoners are rareBecause they're not selected for, which they would be. Do you think stats are random, or that you can train to get them? If you can train to get them, the training troops for dex is possible, if you cannot train to get them, then the game world is retarded anyway because you can train for it in reality. So anyway you turn this, it comes out like a retardo game. Even if fanboys like you spread your cheeks for the game.>Also, heavy armour is perfectly viableNo, the abilities you get outside of heavy armour is viable. The armour itself is nearly irrelevant. The best strength builds require you to drop the armour. DROP the armour. Do you understand how fucking stupid that is?
>>729431726Oracle feels better than a crusader because you're literally gifted with a godly power beyond your initial comprehension that also acts like a wound on your body.
>>729436372>here take this power, no I won't tell you why or what to do with it, have fun with the curse ;)wtf is wrong with golarion gods
>>729436454Most of them are assholes.
>>729436147you sound like an idiot
