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>genre defined by predatory monetization
>people trip over themselves trying to defend it anyway
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>>729422813
Deception, dopamine fixes, sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome are a hell of a thing.
Play the free game. Win a flashy price. Start sinking time, more time and if your stupid enough, money. Have the fear of EoS hovering over your head so suddenly you become a free advertisement and a paying defender out of desperation so you don't lose everything.
Takes a special kind of retard, and the world has no shortage of those.
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>>729423051
>special kind of retard
>billions in revenue every month
It's no longer special, nor retarded. Susceptibility to these things is just average and expected now.
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>>729423051
>>729423251
Yeah, there's nothing special about it. Susceptibility to this kind of manipulation is extremely common. There's a reason why most civilized countries place regulations and restrictions on the gambling and advertisement industries. Gacha games would be illegal if legislation ever caught up with the digital world.
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>>729423251
>>729423535
I did point out the fact the world has no shortage of those. I absolutely refuse to accept such behavior as normal, no matter the amount. At least with 8 billion people, I would still like to hope it's a very small amount in comparison, aka the whales.
I just don't want to think less of the human race than I already do. I want to have some hope.
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>>729423759
I 100% understand where you're coming from and used to struggle with that myself. Unfortunately, there are so many temptations that can drag you off the path that it really shows who are actual people and who are the bots meant to fill out the IRL lobby.
We have laws against opioids and gambling explicitly because most people are not strong enough to keep these things from harming them to some extent once they get a taste.
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>>729422813
sometimes i feel like it might be nice to be retarded enough to obsess over a gacha
umamusume players seem pretty happy
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>>729422813
If you can convince the lowest weeaboo he's better than the best western man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him a picture of an anime girl, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
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>>729424023
I know, I understand when life can be so miserable, when that misery drags you down and you start losing joy and interest in things. You grab out in desperation for anything to pull you back.
Though I'm harsh against gacha because I've been playing video games for 30 years. When arcades were going out of fashion here but when MTX was still largely a thing for Korean f2p MMOs or things like Nexon. The landscape is so much worse now, such greed openly normalized and even defended. I hate it and I wish people didn't stop pushing back.
Granted there are still plenty of good games being made, but that ugly stain still remains, a temptation for others.
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>>729422813
I don't get it. I've played some gacha but I don't defend it. Even if they attempt to have gameplay, the typical gacha mechanics ruin it (the gacha itself, dailies, stamina, etc).
People used to be mad as fuck over lootboxes and all those had were cosmetics
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>>729425638
>Miyabi big ear
>The artists need to get paid somehow
>Isn't it great that so many people can play this game for free
>Not everyone can afford a consoles and pcs to play all the new games that come out
>But some people have made a living just by making gacha fanart. Do you want them to starve
>I just want something easy and relaxing to play at the end of the day
>I just like it jesus fucking christ
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>>729422813
*swipe swipe* You don't have to spend money, it's free. *swipe* Look at all the revenue our- I mean the game makes. See all this stuff? It'll never get a rerun.
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>>729422813
Kill all westoids
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>be westoid
>spend entire paycheck on taxes, high rent and mortgage, mandatory insurance policies, and an artificially high cost of living designed on purpose to make you a serf

>be eastoid
>spend entire paycheck trying to get a rare picture of an anime girl
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>>729422813
Just think of it as a retard tax. They fund the game, I play it for free.
If I didn't play it, the whales wouldn't care to play it either and the company wouldn't get any money ever.
F2P CHADS RULE GACHA WITH AN IRON FIST
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>>729428308
>i love being mere plankton in an ocean of whales
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last I played sekai it seemed generous in letting you just play the rhythm game. you could ignore the gacha and currencies, as much as they appeared in front of you. did that change?
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>>729428364
Wrong! Me and the whales want the same thing, only difference is that I luckmaxx until it gets given to me for free while they slave and obsess over it.
I'm the KING, the whales are the servants!
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>>729428437
I haven't played it in a while either, but I don't think so
In fact the last time I played it they even removed the ability to fail out of a song, so you didn't need cards to replenish your HP if you just wanted to casually play the game
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>>729425638
>People used to be mad as fuck over lootboxes and all those had were cosmetics
thats because those were in premium paid games on console/pc, not free mobile games.
no one cared about CSGO or TF2 doing it until it became the norm in full priced AAA games and even singleplayer games
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>>729428437
you can still just ignore the gacha if you only care about playing the game and going for FCs, better units just give you a higher score and that only ever matters in multiplayer events
my only issue with pjsekai is that it killed project diva by printing too much money
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>>729423251
>It's no longer special
it never was
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>>729422813
Most are willing to look over all the scummy and greedy shit as long as hot girls are attached to it.
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>>729422813
You just don't understand weeb culture, man. It's based and redpilled to throw your life away for JPEGs of boring samefaced anime girls that you can get for better quality for free on boorus. I may now be poor and destitute for the dumbest possible reason, but at least in the end, I can die knowing I'm more cultured than those filthy westerncucks.
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>>729422813
It's a shame but this will never end. There will always be fools getting addicted and hooked up and spending a lot of money on emptiness.
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>>729428308
>I play it for free
You play a gimped version of the game whales play, which itself is nothing more than a timegated character collector whose gameplay loop is farming for character progression materials. It's a skinner box and you're too stupid to see it.
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>>729431661
Will we really never be free from this nightmare? Surely these people will wake up one day and recognize it's all been a pile of lies, right?
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>>729428308
>f2p chads rule gacha with an iron fist
That's not how it works. You're useful idiots in this ecosystem buddy. Just because you only played the popular ones doesn't mean you're holding that kind of power. Do you have any idea how many gacha ended their service because they couldn't maintain their whales?
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>>729432132
Where's the reward in just paying for everything? The only thrill left at this point is if you can get someone by spending not as much as last time, but you already know you'll get it eventually if you're whaling, it's a complete waste of time in a game that already doesn't have much going for it
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>>729432668
how are f2p even useful?
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>>729422813
Gachafags are some of the biggest retards you can find.
Most of them are poorfags who blow the few pennies they have on stupid vices like gacha, alcohol, smoking etc.
Poorfags think that wasting all their money on overpriced junk and brand products advertized as premium products makes them not poor, it's financial peacocking, then they mistakenly think you're poor if you don't buy the same trash they burn money on, there's studies to back it up but you just need to know at least 3 poorfags to see the truth of it.
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>>729433897
Have you seen this board? They advertise their cancer for free even though they have dedicated boards. At least that one tripfag gets paid for it I hope so
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Anti-gachafags are so cringe. Feel free to hate gachas if you want, but don't go spewing lies an mdisinformation
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I only played 3 gachas so far.
Uma musume about horse girls, drooped after two-few weeks, it was boring, spend 0
sword of cornwalia that is tactic rpg and dropped after few weeks, it was boring, spend 0
Wizardry variant daphne that I play so far for almost year. Its grindy but I like it, spend like 20$ in all
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>>729423251
It's frankly astounding how normalized gambling is again
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Gachas are more fun than AAAslop or what passes for indie games these days



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