>Be Obsidian>Literally make New Vegas 2: In Space>Have MS ruin first impressions with $80 price tag>Have devs antagonizing any and all potential customers on Twitter>Have ad campaign mocking players who like romance>Game sells like shit>Franchise gets put on ice>Have the game people actually hate (Avowed) reap all the rewards of good budgetingAre they retarded?
>>729425740Good, now they can pull out Arcanum's corpse and rape that too.
>>729425740>New Vegas 2: In SpaceYou are delusional. It's really shit, the RPG mechanics blow, every character is a girlboss, or a Rick and Morty character.
Why did this even get a sequel, the first game sucked and also flopped.
This garbage is not New Vegas 2. This game is the corpse of Obisidian being dragged around like Weekend at Bernie's.
>Have MS ruin first impressions with $80 price tagUH, NO THAT WAS THE PIECE OF SHIT 1ST GAME
>>729425740>>Have ad campaign mocking players who like romancesource?
>>729426715Anon, did you not see the companion trailer? They were practically telling us to go have sex irl, which i did, with your mom, but thats a separate subject. There is also countless interviews of them shitting on the concept.
Don’t worry bro Tim Cain is totally gonna save the company.
>>729426369Literally no one talks about the 1st game being a massive piece of shit because they're too busy dickriding Obsidian because a Youtuber they watched said they were good
>>729425740>Literally make New Vegas 2: In Spacethey already tried this avenue of marketing with the first game and that was the most 5/10 painfully average game
>>729427334yeah, and not only that i think they misunderstood the appeal of Fallout. They wanted to make their own sci-fi series, and seemingly compete with FO4. Instead, they should have made a western shooter-RPG. Westerns and desert settings are way more interesting and lead to gun autism.
>>729425740>Be ObsidianThey are Obsidian in name only>make New Vegas 2: In SpaceThe Obsidian team that made New Vegas hasn't worked for Obsidian in a very long time. The video game development industry has some of the most rapid employee turn-over on the planet.>Are they retarded?No. The current staff of Obsidian are incompetent, which is to say that they are like most dev studios.The Outer Worlds was maximum DEI far-left woke shit in all directions, and TOW2 doubled down on all of that.
>>729426232The first game fooled a lot of people thinking it's Fallout in Space. It was also around when people were pissed at Bethesda for Fallout 76 being shit.
>>729425740This piece of shit doesn't deserve to even be in the same sentence as New Vegas lmao
>>729425740i hope that this shitty series failing twice can help improve the gaming industry somewhat. i know they wont learn from their mistakes, but i can hope.
>>729427476They could've even done space western shooter. A mix of Firefly/Trigun/Outlaw Star.
>>729427202GB2R
>>729427679Space Western is over done and it's not something I'm into. You could probably do something light sci-fi related, like make a light apocalyptic event occur in America in like 1921, and people in the western states have to vie for control and survival, with the American military remnants being a major force. >Chinaman railway worker gangs who throw dynamite>native tribals who drink whisky and are sharp shooters and have tomahawks>rogue US military factions>gun autism>horses>Gangs from mexico who have spilled over The game almost writes itself.
>>729426197>>729426312>>729427334>>729427606>>729427674have any of you dumbasses talking shit actually played the game?
>>729427883Have you?
>>729427910Nta but I did and people who hate on it are idiots with shit taste that did indeed not okay it
>>729427883yes?
>>729427910yes i have, and its good, why would i make this thread if i didnt?
The first Outer Worlds was a dogshit game propped up by the games media pushing that it was SO MUCH BETTER THAN FALLOUT 4 while being a hub-based game that is a worse RPG than Fallout 4, with less customization, less content, less roleplaying in regards to character builds, and somehow with worse writing in general. The first Outer Worlds might be the most "Game from that company that made that thing you liked fifteen years ago" game to ever exist. The fact the second one was a wet, silent, overpriced fart isn't a surprise to anyone.
>>729425740It's none of that, it's that the game is boring and overall mediocre.
>>729427883>"hey have you actually EATEN this pile of shit to know if it's truly shit?!"No one cares about modern Obshittian games, dumbass. The only threads this garbage gets here is people making fun of it. Read the room.
>>729427815Push it back a century. Napoleon puts the Haitians down quicker and cleaner and isn't so keen on selling Louisiana this time around. This starts an arm race that originally stalled while America was only fighting natives or themselves and you can ramp up the setting quicker to account for it.Post-Colonial America that never stabilized into proper United States. Just from that alone you could have a shitload of factions to play against each other.
>>729428204people when arguing about actual dogshit games will go>did you play it?>well did you beat it?>well did you play the sequel?>well did you beat the sequel?>well why would you play a game you don't like? clearly it just isn't for you!its all so tiring
>>729425740I like outer worlds 2 but it's impossible to recommend as long as they have their current crew of developers. I didn't pay for the game and wouldn't want anyone else to. They need to fire all the "fuck wypipo" developers on their team first
>>729428204It’s understandable to be skeptical of Obsidian but TOW2 was underrated and had its reputation assassinated. It was a decent game and you’re all retarded, you consume all your vidya news from sloptubers and ragebaiters.
>>729427883I played OW1 and it was the most milquetoast nothing-game I played back then, sans FO4. Why would I bother buy OW2 when every piece of marketing tells me it will be even worse?
>>729427883I haven't played it, waiting until it is cheap. Played the first one on PS4 after I found it on sale for $5 at Walmart and I liked it a lot
>>729428305The only person who doesn’t like Krabby Patties has never eaten one!
>>729425740yes>you have dickbag one and dickbag two>both of them suck dicks massively, one is objectively worse than the other but they both still suck>it's like this in every place you go to, exactly the same bullshit as the first game>companions are even more unlikable this time around being actual extremists with 0 relating qualities>1 faction is so retarded that instead of communicating or explaining their results they just go "trust the math stupid" and get repeatedly fucked over for it, to the point of collapse if you, the player don't stop them from drowning in paint(much like every other faction)>chat options are, let me do that for you, pay me to do that for you, [ATTACK] i'll pay myself, and then 5 different options related to backgrounds and skillsgunplay feels a lot better though, not like that is much of a triumph considering how lackluster it was in the first gamethey go way to hard into satirical to the point of retardation and it ruins it for me
>>729428424ow2 is better, you can pirate it
I was thinking about buying this in the Steam sales. Is it shit?
>>729428352hey, im just glad someone actually played it here, and i would agree, they need to remove all the bad actors, starting with that avowed dev talking shit about Elon.
>>729428485
>>729428579>>729428305 already becoming a reality
>>729428624TOW2 is an actually handcrafted RPG with tons of reactivity compared to copy pasted slop like Starfield
>>729427883Even if they stealth patched the weapons list to have an assault rifle on the first planet and the lmg you can get 5 minutes after the tutorial the statistically 2nd best weapon in the entire game at killing everything, there would still be fewer unique guns in the whole game then you find on your way to fucking prim.The first best?>The same fucking light machinegun, but as a unique I played outer worlds and saaaarfield for hundreds of hours each, viewing them as 6 and 4/10 respectively, but OW2 I just lost all will to play by the third planet and getting the 1 mechanical gun upgrade I knew from spoilers I'd be using for the next 30 hours. Bad writing , bad gameplay, extremely simplified systems like [gun] making sniping, pistols, and most rifles just flat worse with specialization than automatic weapons, and some of the most tepid XP gimping to force "replay" (of viewing different badly written dialogue on entirely linear quest chains) by never being able to invest in more than 3 trees if you wanted any skill high enough to be used make it just a bad fucking game. The murder mystery dlc being the only thing obsidian has made truly ok/10 in FIFTEEN years and it being by their fucking C team just left to their own devices truly means the studio is dead. Avowed is shit, outer worlds 2 is shit. They have nothing, not even ips worth cannibalizing.
>>729428683who the fuck said anything about starfield? is objective trash what we're comparing ourselves to now?
I thought OW1 was irredeemably bland. OW2 was better in every way and in fact a really good game.
>>729428243oh, but I want gun autism. I want those "wild west" firearms, but also those WW1 surplus shit. I want handguns, smgs, and rifles. Napoleonic era firearms don't give me that same coolness factor for me. not accurate, too long to load, and setup. And Deus Ex (original) upgrade system (no levels, only skills and spells). Some type of catastrophe around like 1925-1935, all outside communication is down, there's "infected" running amok and humans shattered into various factions and bands with no central government. I wanna build a guy who specializes in big ass machine guns, and gun down shit.
>>729428689>Avowed is shitok/10>outer worlds 2 is shitnope, it was goodanons just talk like histrionic women here about how bad things actually are
Does TOW2's story connect with the first game at all?
>>729425740Honestly, I have to wonder if the creators of Fallout Nev Vegas even understood their own game and what made the different factions compelling. Yes, the Caesar's Legion is awful, but given how all the previous games had done the legwork of the dangers of technology, then any anti tech faction will come off as a legitimate choice, which makes the Legion compelling as rubbing into the players face: "Yes, technology can be dangerous, but are you truly willing to embrace primitive life and all the brutality it entails."
>>729428764Deboonk a single thing I said about the games mechanical issues ranjeet. It is inferior to the first in gunplay and even companion mechanics and the first isn't good. An unreal asset store slide animation does not make a modern combat system. There isn't even fucking corner leaning.
>>729428735Slop is something empty you just consume consume consume without thinking. Like french fries or potato chips. Starfield planets are designed that way. Calling TOW2 slop is incorrect. You can say you hate its style or writing but you have to credit that it’s actually handcrafted RPG and not just endless generated slop. Have some ‘actual’ standards and give the devil its due instead of seeing everything in black and white like a retard.
>>729425740They were always trash. Mouthbreather subhumans takes Bethesda's engine as Obsidian miracle
>>729425740Really some of the worst marketing/PR I’ve ever seen. I enjoyed Avowed. Everything I’ve seen relating to this one has been so incredibly negative, snarky, gay, brown, greedy, and bland. I’m sure it’s not that bad, but at this point there’s a stink that I associate with it and have a hard time overlooking
>Two story expansionsLiterally no reason to play it until those are both out and it's on sale for 50%+ off, with both.
>>729428869yeah man, if the bar is that low you can call this game a masterpiece all you want
>>729429018>I am literally incapable of comprehending a middle ground between trash and masterpiece
>>729428243>>729427815I feel like the sense of longing for the Old World is one of the key features of Fallout New Vegas, so it really wouldn't be the same style of game if you set it in the Wild West. You're kind of forced to lean scifi or fantasy to get the grand narrative which FNV has.
somehow I doubt the game is actually good.
>>729427983>>729428024What exactly did you like about it?
Everyone was celebrating Outer Worlds because it was supposed to be the successor of New Vegas (IN SPAAACE) and would humiliate Bethesda & their shitty FO76.Everyone stopped talking about Outer Worlds after it came out and turned out to be worse than FO76.
>>729427883I played both OW games they're both shit, if they didn't bank on NV's name no one would give a shit about them
>>729428385Decent how?
>>729428735I say this without a hint of irony I would rather reinstall shartfeld and play that over touching either outer worlds games ever again
>>729429339>has the most reactive RPG element dialogue I’ve seen barring maybe BG3>gunplay and reload animations were fantastic>if you can ignore reddit writing and the slow pacing until the middle of the third act you start seeing the real vision behind the game and it really picks up
>>729429384If you unironically prefer Starfield over TOW2 you have brain damage or were fed a line on what to think of it.
>>729429493It really picks up an hour before the game ends?
>>729429536no the outer worlds that just that dogshit
>>729425740>Are they retarded?You know how you search for something on Netflix, and they don't have it, and they instead offer you a bunch of Originals that are basically the same thing you're searching for, but worse? That's Obsidian's job at Microsoft. They're supposed to make the knock-off Bethesda games to fill out the Gamepass catalog.
I liked Outer Worlds 1. Making and planing builds was fun and skill checks come up often enough that I never felt a point was wasted. Props for them for letting me make a INT 1 build that just sends the generation ship into the sun in the end. It has issues though, the writing in particular. Everything is surface level, there is no hidden meaning, nobody lies or has more to uncover. Take the Moonman vendor on the first space station, he keeps spout slogans and company approved quotes. At no point and with no skill points can you ever get him to break character, the joke is only that he talks in corpo and nothing else, there is nothing more to the NPC than saying the lines. Avowed is similar, everything is told straight and it's usually safe and avoiding conflict. Though that game has fantastic exploration and surprisingly good combat, probably because they just added a force multiplier to ragdolls, still never got tired of kicking things.
>fallout 3 was super jank but had amazing atmosphere>fnv was still jank and had a more boring map but better story and quests>fallout 4 was todd showing the world that he just don't care anymore>outer worlds was a try at making something new, an okay game>studio went super woke with avowed, holy shit that was bad>project total western culture death and demoralization was going great>outer worlds 2 had nothing going for it
>Be obsidian >spend 10 years releasing trash >the closest to a decent game you manage in that time is stripped down ark clone >all the devs of note have left years ago>wonder why no one buys your shovelware
>>729429190>Art direction is phenomenal>one of the best OST this year>gunplay is insanely fluid>writting is interesting, witty, though cringy at times>Unique weapons and armor reminiscent of old school BGS games>companions are actually kinda cool, pajeet old lady surprised me, and Tristan is the best.
>>729429536Starfield does almost everything better than TOW 1 and 2. Only things that are maybe a tossup are companion writing and reactivity.
>>729429851>art direction is phenomenal stopped reading there
>>729427883I actually played OW and OW2.OW was a 7/10 game overall. It was good enough. I enjoyed the game, and felt compelled enough to finish the story. Character building mechanics were pretty limited and imo the system for perks and skills was incredibly boring. Characters were not interesting.OW2 is an 8.5/10. It's good, but still not great. The world building is much better, RPG mechanics are greatly improved. Using your skills to interact with the world is much better, and characters are MUCH more interesting than the first game.HOWEVER, it still doesn't come close to getting you invested into the politics and word as well as New Vegas does.A huge gripe I have with this franchise is there's too fucking many items that are different in name and model only. They all do the exact same thing, just sometimes they're colored differently. It makes every item blend into a mash of junk.Also STILL not enough Weapon variety. It needs like 3 times as many different guns and melee weapons.
I was hoping after the first game they would have the experience to flesh the game out more and make it less mid. But they somehow just made a more polished, but still very mid game.>RPG/Perk system is far to restrictive and punishes you for spreading points>You can't play versatile, it's either all or nothing or you're just gimping yourself>Worlds are very formulaic and lack any decent secrets or meaningful side quests>No swimming and lots of un-scalable walls walls and instant death falls>Companions are mostly decent, but feel useless unless you max out Leadership>Best ending is locked behind maxed speech, literally no other maxed skill effects the ending>Lack of interesting loot>Lack of unique loot/gearThere's lots of other things, but overall the game just feels.... uninteresting.
>>729425740The first game was ass, ugly characters, boring gameplay and a pseudo deep Rick & morty esque story. The 2nd one doesn't look like it differs much.
>>729429905Nigga, the boxart alone has more soul than whatever game is your favorite this year, guaranteed.
>>729430095>is that the reddit knockoff of mactonight?! KINOOOOOOOOO GOTY ART
>>729427883You clearly haven't, else you know they are right, you complete dumbfuck
You would think Obsidian fans would be angry about the talentless retards wearing the company's skin and claiming to be the people who made New Vegas, but it seems the drones will blindly suck off anything if it has the company logo on it
>>729425740>what if we take a Bethesda RPG, but make it super limited>release an okay but nothing special game, feels like it's missing something substantial, doesn't really appeal to anyone>what if we waste like 6 years copy pasting the Outer Worlds, but make it fantasy!>release an okay but nothing special game, feels like it's missing something substantial, doesn't really appeal to anyone>what if we take Outer Worlds, but add a 2 to the end!>release an okay but nothing special game, feels like it's missing something substantial, doesn't really appeal to anyoneWhy are they still doing this? Are they trying to do the Larian thing of releasing the same game over and over again with minor improvements? Forgetting that you know, they have no appeal. It's wild to me.>not open world sandbox so doesn't appeal to Skyrim/NV fans>action focused and has safe boring writing so doesn't appeal to RPG fans>no romance so doesn't appeal to women>no attractive people so doesn't appeal to coomersWho are these games for?
Im waiting for the superior xbox western rpg
>>729430296>not open world sandbox so doesn't appeal to Skyrim/NV fansOpen world Sandbox is not even close to why I love New Vegas.But it is the only way I can tolerate Fallout 4(heavilty modded to basically being a survival extraction shooter)
>>729430296>no attractive people so doesn't appeal to coomers>Aza existsOpinion discarded
>>729430367>bioshock but ai
>>729430367>SteampunkGaaaaayyyyyy
>>729430296>Who are these games for?>>729429648The games are for Microsoft. They are part of the corporate strategy of a company that is totally divorced from any sort of market pressure.
>>729428869Kek, just consume your flavored slop and shut up. Just because you like the taste of garbage doesn't mean it's not slop, total faggot
>>729425740>>Literally make New Vegas 2: In Spacebut its not
>>729429851Kek, you just like slop, just admit it
>>729430391>1 fully clothed moderately attractive character in 3 gamesTruly Obsidian is a coomers paradise.
>>729430391>look it upNot impressed tbdesu. Most of the Deadlock girls are cuter than this.
I'll never understand the hate /v/ has for Fallout 4.Complaints about the voiced protagonist and changed perk system...that's the two things that make sense. Beyond that, it's just seethe.
>>729425740>split team between two games that are basically the same thing but one is sci fi and one is fantasy>shocked when both are medicore>also your design studio lead, most experienced and best dev isn't working on either, isn't working on anything since his bookgame came out three years ago, instead is hanging out in korea or whateverYeah they're retarded
>>729431126Shit story.Horribly inconsistent writing. Many things make no sense at all if you think beyond "that was a neat interaction"Factions are shallow as fuck.Almost everything is [Go to place to shoot thing in a "Dungeon"]It's barely an RPG if at all. I want to play an RPG, not a LooterShooter
>>729431262it's a really fun looter shooter thoughbeit
>>729431126>worse gun variety than NV>worse RPG mechanics than NV (skills, perk system, etc)>worse uniques than NV>worse writing than NV>exploration that might be about on par with FO3>worse atmosphere than FO3>worse city than FO3>the Railroad exists and is retarded in your path>the legendaries suck horseballsLiterally the only things FO4 has going for it is the settlement building - which is an absolute fuck of a poisoned pill since Bethesda obviously used it as an excuse to skip actually developing the Commonwealth as a region - and the power armor system which they crowbarred into the core gameplay loop so hard they had to saddle it with an extra chore so it didn't break the early game balance over its knee (it does anyway).
>>729431327It's only fun if you mod it a ton.But once you do it genuinely is a really fun looter shooter.Ive spent around 600 hours playing it this way.Alt Start mod that puts you right after the Kellog stuff, MAIM, Survival, NPCs Travel, War of the commonwealth, etc. I spent like 200 hours on one character and never even played the Main quest.
>>729431347>worse gun variety than NVMassive UnderstatementThe biggest disappointment of Fallout 4 is that they made it a lootershooter with barely any fucking guns
>>729425740Outer Worlds 2 is like New Vegas but with dykes and søyboys as the target audience kinda like how Fallout 4 was like Fallout 3 but for dykes and søyboys. I guess targeting a different audience didn't turn out so well. Maybe now they'll go back to making games for normal people and we'll get something good?
>>729431454>make a game about exploring places and looting shit>remove 80% of the guns and armors in favor of crafting weapon and armor modsWhat the fuck were they thinking? Did they seriously think looting a desk fan for screws is as exciting as finding a new weapon?
>>729431889I believe their entire plan was "make random junk useful"Which they greatly succeeded in. Both settlements and weapon and armor modding makes Junk loot very good and worth finding.They're just too short sighted to realize that in their implementation, they made Weapons and Armor limited and boring as fuck.It also gimped the world super hard, because way too many locations are just blank slates with nameless no personality NPCs instead of interesting settlements One step forward, two steps back.
>I don't play videogames because.. I'm deeply involved in xitter ragebaitplease kys
>>729431994Todd is a hack
>>729431126Story is nonsensical, carries the Fallout name but has no roleplaying mechanics. What worked for me was treating it as a looter shooter. Since something I actually find Bethesda has done well sine Oblivion is just stumbling over small tidbits that not marked nor have a quest. and the power fantasy of finding a legendary weapon is great, if not fleeting. It has some of the same issues as Dragon's Dogma and newer Zelda games, they put all this work into the world and it's a fun world to explore, but when you start to look for something tangible or want to learn more about the world it can't wait to disappoint you fast enough.
>>729425740I 100%'ed the first one. It was very mid. I didn't enjoy many of the characters except the Vicar. I did kinda enjoy both dlcs for their "mystery" aspects but I can just go play Shadows of Doubt instead.Forgot they even made a second one.
>>729425740>game is repugnant garbage>game doesn't sellWhat a shock. Obshittian can't do anything without leeching off someone else's work first and they don't have anyone left willing to "work" with them.
>>729430367Unironically 2026 game of the year
>>729425740Oh yeah I totally forgot this existed
>>729425740I will NOT separate product from developersI WILL judge book by it's coverI WILL ostracise companies based on any amount of blue haired landwhales / women they employI WILL post it again
>>729432551I'd fuck 6 of them
>>729432592The one holding bullet holes Pacman and chubby asian are the only 2 I'd hit.
>>729427883So is the game full of girlbosses and Rick and Morty characters or not?
>>729432551
>>729432654OW1 - yesOW2 - no
>>729432624>bullet holes PacmanThat's a cheese wheel
>>729425740the first game was awful i have no idea how they got money to make a sequel
>>729432654Every faction leader is girlboss or has girlboss bossing you (not that factions matter)
>>729427883>you have to eat the shit to know it tastes like shitNo.
>>729432654Listen, im not gonna bullshit you, yes, some of them are, but its like 3/10 characters. Its not that bad. Looking back, even Fallout 4 had characters like this
It's blatantly unfinished. The only factions that matter are Auntie's Choice and the Order of the Ascendant. All the rest are either unjoinable or you can join them but they just give a handful of sidequests. I really wish Obsidian bothered to finish making the game instead of rushing it out to brag that they released two RPGs in one year.
>>729427883it's dog shit kys shillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oel4vCrzPg&t=115s
>>729432654OW1 - yesOW2 - also yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcutqu5v9I
>>729432427We are in good hands
>>729432551> all the attractive ones are pushed to the edges of the picture
>>729432654Basically every single moid is girlboss of some kind
>>729432826landwhales take up too much space
>>729432675
>>729432812But Zane is kinda hot though, and also very benevolent.
>>729432812>that introthey actually paid money for this?
Sorry but my experience with the first game let me feel that its GAY as FUCK, so I do not care what happens to this shit. Unless I'm wrong and they pivoted their direction for the second one which might be from the trailers I watched but I'm skeptical as all get out.
I played through the entire first game and I don't remember shit about it at all, it was so painfully bland and lame that my brain can't even bother with it.I'm not falling for it again, even if it was somewhat decent I'm not giving this godawful setting another chance.
>>729427815Man tallk about wasted potential instead we got this Highly Saturated Gay BULLSHIT
>>729433076nah they tripled down
>>729433120Cooked Dev Company LMAO
>>729427679>A mix of Firefly/Trigun/Outlaw Star.>Trigun/Outlaw StarIf someone made an open world immsim RPG that had a similar vibe to those 2 shows and I think I would cum
TOW sucks but so did FNV
>>729429493>play until the middle of the third act so the game stops being shitkek you are retarded.
>>729425740>>>Literally make New Vegas 2: In Spacefalse
>>729433236New Vegas is pretty good though until you reach the strip and then it nosedives into a boring slog of shit. But up until then it doesn't suck.
>>729427883I play this shit to shitpost more precisely. And Outer Worlds 1 was a free giveaway at one point you dummy.
>>729433746>I play this shit to shitpost more precisely.me
>>729431994>Make magnum opus spacegame >Put random heavy junk everywhere, even hire Skyrim house modder for prop placement and have them slave away in the internmines >None of it's scrappable >None of it is even worth anything >But you still have a crafting only weapon modification system.>No you can't buy a scope at a shop in a city, this is the future>Outer worlds 2 fails to capitalize on Todd shitting the bed, make game with even more quirky aged girlbosses and even more obtuse and limited crafting mechanic because no respawning items/enemies and even fewer guns you never replace. I really don't get how they fucked that up after 2 games about collecting trash. They broke Real-time setter too.
>>729425740b-b-but look you can megaton one of the towns nowexcept there wont be a ghoulified moira waiting outside because our consequences are super cereal
>>729425740The writing in this game just seems so bad holy shit. Idrc about wokey stuff but every single dialogue option I've seen in it is 100% pure reddit. How do you write this shit?
Obsidian should be closed.
>>729432225>Story is nonsensical, carries the Fallout name but has no roleplaying mechanicsBoth of these are untrue. And this isn't ven saying Fallout 4 has a great story or RPG mechanics either.
>>729435452Most of them will be laid off before the end of Microsoft's fiscal year. They'll keep a skeleton crew to finish Grounded 2.
>>729432787The only reason why they live is that they deliver working shit for cheap on MS's schedule to keep their subscription beast fed.
>>729425740>Have ad campaign mocking players who like romanceRomancetards deserve death thoughbeit
>>7294257401st game and avowed was so shit nobody cares
>>729425740>Have ad campaign mocking players who like romanceWow, based
>>729425740>>Literally make New Vegas 2: In SpaceOW2 is shit. While it tires to copy some things, it fails in everything.
>>729429851oh so you are just a shill spouting bullshit from IGN lmao
>>729428869Its slop. A cheap asset flip and if its hand crafted, than those hands should be cut off and burned.This year has actually good RPGs -Tainted Grail, KCD2, more Rogue Trader, Of Ash and Steel.Awoved and OW2 are just so completely terrible their not even considered worth remembering, like a passing nightmares. Kinda like how Pillars of Eternity was completely erased and forgottten after release of Kingmaker and Divinity
>>729430095Actual people don't say nigga here, nigger.
>>729429536Starfield is absolutely superior. Not as "rpg", but as scifi and space game.
>>729426232It didnt flop. A games quality isnt always reflected in sales, thats moslty marketings job.Game reviewed great, so people bought it a lot. Turned out it was pretty whatever and nobody wanted to buy the next one.OP's points dont matter, 90% of video game buyers are not enganging with twitter posts or GamerWars tm
>>729430406>>729430416its Arcanum 2 from creators of Arcanumthat said, i expect it to be broken junk on release
>>729431126its not an rpg
>>729435452The whole reason MS bought Obsidian was to make low-budget Bethesda-esque games. Now that they own Bethesda, there's no reason to keep Obsidian around. They won't close Obsidian, just reassign all the personnel and put all the IP into cold storage.
Avowed was good. The Outer Worlds 2 was good. Sales don't determine quality ( System Shock 2 was a sales flop despite critical acclaim).Move on with your life and stop seething.
>>729425740Why would I settle for a mid copy of a Beth game when I've already played the real deal ?
The game is good, and the game is getting two big ass expansions. You've lost.
>>729425740Yes there raging faggots too.
>>729430095Soul? What soul?
>>729425740>be Obsidian flawed premise
>>729436589>its Arcanum 2 from creators of ArcanumThey missed the mark entirely and completely, then.It looks nothing like it.>that said, i expect it to be broken junk on releaseThat would be the only thing it has in common with Arcanum.
>>729425740Avowed was like, a 7.5 out of ten game. Really really fun, I loved it! I pirated outer worlds 2 and when I was about 8 hours in I just uninstalled the game because it was so boring I couldn't possibly see myself playing it under any circumstance. It's a shame, Avowed is really fun and that game deserves success and recognition. That one art designer faggot on Twitter literally cost the devs probably tens of thousands of sales due to his stupid bullshit and not keeping his fucking mouth shut, the game was good.bOuter Worlds 2 is terrible though, somehow it actually seems worse than outer worlds 1 which I also dropped, but I got much further in that game at least.
>>729425740>Have ad campaign mocking players who like romancePretty based tbdesu
>>729437480retard.
>>729432792>unironically posting that nazi incelY'all couldn't be more cringe if you tried.
Obsidian games have no edge anymore.Pillars was just simplified baldurs gate (worse) when pathfinder literally said fuck being simple for braindeads and everybody loved it.Awoved and outer worlds are too safe, too sterile and made for women
>>729429859Shitfeild and outhouse 1&2 are both poorly written but starshit still has space combat and that makes it a little better but outhouses companions aren't as boring. The real problem with both is there lame and gay.
westoids can't make good games to save their jobs
>>729437576It's even more ironic if you manage to listen what that retard has to say, since he even likes some aspects of it.Shitposters wouldn't actually try to watch the video, tho, they will see the thumbnail and imagine what the self proclaimed chud has to say about it so that they can use their delusions as arguments.
>>729425740The first one being dogshit probably had more to do with the poor sales than some marketing drama.
>>729431126Horse shit its got every thing wrong with a modern Bethesda title its dumbed down from even fallout 3 witch was dumbed down from 2 massively but it was dumbed down from NV. Its story is so ass it killed any hype I had for anything Bethesda made the radio also is very bad in it. That isn't going into how Bethesda does its level best to yearly add in more bugs and rape the lore of older games with the hollywood whores.
