Why was From Software completely unable to top Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1?
uh, Elden Ring outsold both li'l uncyyou're old and balding btw
Bodied that freak
>>729426495fighting artorias as a pyromancer was very very kino i don't think any other from game have given me the same experience altough I do have like 300 hours on elden ring with 3 different characters
>>729426495Dunno why but there's a chance that the old graphics contributed to the game enviroment to look older and more depressing, in contrast the newer games had changes in the battle system, the story and the graphics, and that's why that feeling of walking through abandoned places at the verge of oblivion doesn't feel the same as before.So yeah, all of this is just the boomer nostalgia.
Demon’s Souls and Bloodborne were the first applications of the concept and as such received the most attention and soul.
>>729426495>Japanese Eurojank dungeon crawlers, one has a level select hub and the other is an Agent Libra (Or Search Action if you prefer that terminology) game with a large, somewhat contiguous level you explore at your own pace. Both are decently paced in development and take no shortcuts, but cut content as a result.>All of the follow-up games have universal checkpoint warping that degenerates the game into dementia soup and they constantly need to cut content and replace it with flat swampsImagine if any other 2000s Eurojank got popular and massively overhyped by the publisher.
>>729426495>Old = goodSo boring
>>729426495Because everything after was just diluting the formula for the sake of mass appeal. This happens with most genres. Just look at turn based RPGs and compare the most popular JRPG series to the Wizardry games that directly inspired them. Easier, more streamlined, more QoL even if it affects the overall experience negatively, tailored towards normalfags instead of enthusiasts. It's nothing new at all.
>>729426495Elden Ring
>>729426495Elden Ring is their biggest game, anon. Unless you mean in your mind, then the answer is nostalgia.
>>729426495Artorias fanboys are the cringiest thing ever
>>729426664>hyperactive drug anon fails at basic comprehension and has little tasteSheesh...
>>729426495people say this but are unable to point out what makes DeS and DS1 better than the other later entries>inb4 some le artorias bullshit, the spastic boss that feels more at home in Nightreign than in his own game
I like ds1 cause its simple like an old arcade game. A bunch of dudes with swords in a castle and ya gotta get to the next checkpoint. I miss when games just had dudes standing around just waiting for you like a bunch of statues. Also when i fire up the game i can be in combat in like 5 seconds from the title screen
>>729426495Every FromSoft game past DS1 are straight improvements and far better games, with the exceptions of Deracine and Armored Core 6. Pretending that Dark Souls 1 is anything but the worst Souls game is a meme and your opinion cannot be taken seriously. Also, Artorias is better in Nightreign. He's actually challenging now, and has a full fledged second phase and not the half-assed one he had in AOTA.
>>729426495You're a Boomer Unc thats why
>>729433204absolute dogshit opions as expected from a DS2tranny
>>729433204never fucking touch any kind of image editing software ever again you nigger
>>729432715I think it's the simplicity. People say there's a lot of games that get better with later entries but there's also a lot of games that are best with their first entries.
>>729427051 Yeah, that fight really hits different-Artorias has this mix of tragedy and raw aggression that just sticks with you, especially when you’re rocking a pyromancer build and dodging like your life depends on it (because it literally does). DS1 had this weird magic where even the jank added to the experience. Elden Ring is great, sure, but it spreads itself out so wide that those tighter, more emotional moments like facing Artorias just don't hit the same. It's like comparing a tightly-written short story to a sprawling fantasy epic-both good, but different vibes.
>>729426495literally all their games after ds2 mog these 2
>>729426495world design wise they never came close to ds1 again because this kind of map is extremely hard to pull off as we recently saw with the worthless garbage that is metroid prime 4
>>729426495>Why was From Software completely unable to top Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1?Modern Fromsoft games are all about planting checkpoints outside the doors of hard bosses.
>>729426495Miyazaki took over. He's the corporate jew of FromSoftware that is responsible for the enshittification of FS. Remember how Sony claimed that he "saved" Demon's Souls. By "save," they probably mean "dumb down."
>>729435668copenot only did he save Demon's Souls, he also directed the best armored core game
>>729433204Peak NPC
>>729426664D3 and D4 outsold D2 also
>>729426495They kept trying to escalate the PREPARE TO DIE meme for the marketing, but quickly realized that their very primitive combat system constrained how difficult the game could actually be before it turned into faggot shit. DS3 was the absolute ceiling. And then they blew through that ceiling anyway, but since they knew the game was now faggot shit, they added a billion items that let you brainlessly trivialize it if you wanted to skip the faggotry, which destroyed both the PvE and PvP balance and turned all the Le Hardcore Gamers into paranoid schizos. This is Elden Ring.
>>729426495sekiro is better than any fromsoft before or after
They haven't even managed to top King's Field IV.
>>729426495sense of discovery is unreplicable
>>729432715It's a combination of map design, enemy design, and overall balancing.DS1's map design is still the best in the series. It's still the only one that actually feels like a proper interconnected Metroidvania world to explore. Every other game is either too fucked up (DS2), too linear (DS3), or too padded with bullshit nobody asked for (ER). DS1's map feels like a real world to have an adventure in.DS1 (and DS2) enemies are designed to match speed with you. There are very few instances of DS3/ER nonsense where the enemy twirls around doing ballerina flips around you while you stand there helplessly waiting for your turn to R1. While this does make the game easier, it also grounds the game's combat and makes it more about hitting them with your sword until they die versus pressing L2 to unzip your anime combo when they eventually get tired. This bleeds into the pvp as well. In turn it also makes your character feel more like a real person in this world instead of it being a transparently fake arcade, which feeds back into the immersion and world design.DS1 and DS2 also have way better balancing in terms of you having the freedom to do whatever you want without the game chopping your balls off as punishment. For example, in both DS3 and ER, a combination of factors (blue/yellow estus split, trashy early game damage, huge stat investments, enemy AI, etc) make starting the game as a mage fucking painful compared to melee. ER adds a massively overly strict upgrade materials economy to the pain, and DS3's distribution of offensive miracles on the map is way too backloaded. In both cases it's better to play at least halfway through the game as melee and respec into magic later. And in terms of melee, especially in Elden Ring, their is objectively a right way to play it: if you aren't pancaking things with a colossal or crutching on bleed/frost, you are objectively playing the game wrong. You had way more freedom to do whatever back in DS1 and DS2.
>>729426495They've gotten progressively better with each one off well excpet I feel elden ring was a step back in the evolution of their formula. Demon's souls < Dark souls < Bloodborne < Sekiro
>>729426495Eldenring already did that and become the best and most hardcore video dya ever but you're to old for it uncle
>>729439358How is Elden Ring hardcore when you can chain bleed/frost procs to kill everything in at most 10 hits of your swords?
>>729426495because Elden Ring made them step back several years now, the RE4 of the franchise
>>729439580Quality vs quantity retardYou kill them in less but precise hits while dodging every single attack
^ people will reply to this seriously btw
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>>729439665>Precise dodges of every attack*Vow of the Indominatable**Barricade shield**Guard counter**Throws pots**Dragon incants**Chain posture breaks with colossal jumping attacks**Mimic tear*Elden Ring gives you so many tools to trivialize every encounter that you need to go hilariously far out of your way to make it "hardcore," and then it is so retardedly difficult it's insufferable.
>Elden fucking Ring>quality cr7 bros....
>>729433204>ds2 trannyneck yourself
DS2's biggest problem is that it's controls fucking suck. Even to this day, booting up DS2 is like jumping into freezing water: "wait why does my character control like ass?" Baffling decision. You can't even excuse it with the crunch like you can the fucked up map.
