>>729437679
I'm just anti-corp overreach so the more billionaires that sneed the happier I am, doesn't matter who it is.

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>>729437679
the west hates nintendo and doesnt care about justice
just look at how sony managed to cnd tencent because they "own" vague apocalyptic setting with tribes and robots

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Things that Snoys have been forced to worship in order to force concern and get people to turn on Nintendo and the Switch:
>The old Donkey Kong games
>Ocarina of Time
>pre-BoTW Zelda games
>Iwata
>Reggie
>GameCube
>Wii U
>Super Smash Bros. Melee
>Mario Kart 8
>Metroid Prime 1-3
>Bomberman

Looking forward to them suddenly praising New Horizons and Smash Ultimate all of sudden.

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>>729437679
When Pokemon copies a multi-million selling series, it's fair. When others do it, it's wrong.

Are the snoys in the room with us?

>>729437854
You do realize new horizons has a switch 2 edition? Why would they hate a game which is on both Switch consoles

>>729437867
>obsessed snoy makes 50+ anti-Switch 2 threads every single day
>"y-you're the obsessed ones not us"

>>729437679
i support anything that fucks over Jewtendo

>>729437951
Here's a tip: those threads are from nintendo fans not sony

>>729437679
they aren't going to win. Nintendo always wins

>>729437980
The Switch 1 and 2 have been Nintendo's golden age and only contrarians disagree.

I'm on the fence

nintendo needs to be humbled again and needs to learn they can't swing their army of lawyers at everything they don't like and bend the law to their will
I will never forgive them for shutting down AM2R just to release their own shitty remake

but palworld is just complete shit, astroturfed and manufactured to chase as many trends as possible into a shitty stew of openworld slop with no thought or originality
and the designs are objectively rip-offs
I don't want this case to open the floodgates

>>729437996
Except when they lost to Tear Ring Saga and a Mom and Pop store

>>729437679
Why didn't sue all the pokemon clones out there. why speficially palworld?

I'd have a lot more sympathy for pokemon/Game Freak if they actually managed to make a game that wasn't a heap of shit, but the retards that still buy their trash don't have any standards. Honestly Palworld is a piece of shit too, but they're a literal who company just slapping shit together while Game Freak has made mountains of cash over decades while being on the same skill level.

i'd argue people supporting these pokemon ripoff games are bigger pokemon fans than the ones seething about it

They just want to see pokemon (the IP) treated properly and get high quality games for it instead of bottom of the barrel ugly games without depth

>>729438052
Because Palworld is the only one who beat Pokémon.

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>>729437679
Posted it again award.

>>729437679
>be small dev
>your shitty game was popular with vtubers
>make another game that is a clone of ARK because these vtubers love it
>they love it as well
>get sued by Nintendo
>tendies start sneeding about it
lol, lmao even

>>729437679
Yes, everyone who isn't a drone sides with palworld on this.

>>729438041
The latter is by far the lesser of two evils. There will always be derivative shit released, but if you give an inch with the mega corps like Nintendo, they won't stop until they've taken everything. You'll see patents for the most insane fucking generic shit start being upheld.

>>729437795
Basically this, American courts even created an arbitrary distinction so they could legally define Sony and Nintendo as non competitors (this was during ms attempts at buying developers). Sony and their aaa partners are the only officially approved globohomo console for bread and circuses and that’s why browns love it so much

>>729437679
didnt pokemon rip most of its og designs (quality of which they were never able to reproduce on their own btw; the nu designs are soulless slop) from toriyama? it's okay when nintendo does it huh? who gives a shit. hope nintendo loses

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>>729437679
You don't..?

>>729437679
nintendo is an evil, soulless company, I will always side against them. Unless they fight israel, then I will side with nintendo.

>nintendo

Aren't they the ones that tried to patent characters jumping in video games?

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>I AM GOTY I AM GOTY I AM GOTY

>>729437861
I genuinely can't tell if this is a shitpost or if the person who made that image actually believes that

I'm actually a tendie and regularly dunk on snoytroons in the famitsu threads but everything about this Nintendo vs Palworld shit is complete faggotry. Fuck Nintendo for trying to patent shit like "throwing a ball" or "riding a flying mount". Cunts need to be taken down several notches.

>>729437679
I just want the billion dollar company to lose regardless of who is right or wrong.

I don't respect patents for game mechanics.
Palworld and the pal designs are clearly different enough from Pokemon that there is no plagiarism issue.
Pocketpair did nothing wrong.
Nintendo are objectively in the wrong.
This is the only reasonable stance to take.

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>copying designs/asthetics.
It's Okay When Nintendo Does It

>>729437679
Yes because it's nonsense from the retroactive patents after Palworld released all the way to Nintendo claiming to come up with the concept of
>characters throwing things interacting with the world
as if they had come up with fucking hand grenades. The only reason Palworld is selectively facing litigation is they dared put in an inkling more effort into their indieshit nightmare Ark/Pokemon hybrid than Gamefreak has invested in the IP for the past several decades, resulting in minor success

I'm reminded of Miyamoto lamenting in an interview they weren't able to patent jumping in videogames back in the day.

>>729441821
>Palworld and the pal designs are clearly different enough from Pokemon that there is no plagiarism issue.
We all know nintendo is taking the patent route because their lawyers know they have no claims on design grounds.

>>729442048
>Robot has missiles that arc up and fall down
>Runs right into the bad guy’s face to fire them

>>729437679
Why anyone would side with a billion dollar company trying to bully their competition out of business by patenting game mechanics is baffling, the game isn't even like Pokemon, it's an Ark clone. Tendie bootlickers are the scum of the earth

>>729437679
Pokemon is a 30 year-old franchise.
It is normal for heavily derivative works to get made much earlier than that and it's only the mentally ill "don't recline your seat all the way" Japanese mentality that has anyone siding with Nintendo for their bullshit patent trolling, which is combined with the radical increase in government censorship of free speech in the form of bloating and internationalizing Noosphere Monopoly Enterprise law over the course of the 20th century.
Palworld is a shit survival crafting game, but it is absolutely in the right to rip off Pokemon all it wants.

>>729437679
Obviously I'm siding with Palworld. You shouldn't be able to claim copyright on broad similarities and throw money at the courts until you get your way, it's evil and unfair.

>>729437679
isn't this over now?

>>729442615
Nah, still ongoing. There hasn't been much news about it because the system is ultimately slow and there have been some bumps along the way that is slowing it down even more. The last big news I remember is the u.s. patent office taking a second look at some of the patents it granted to nintendo.

>>729437679
>when it's contrarian to side against the hundred billion dollar company

>>729438041
>I will never forgive them for shutting down something blatantly illegal because I'm a dumb bitch
maybe if the actual factual retard had just made his own fucking game instead of remake a metroid he wouldn't have gotten fucked over

>>729437679
I do, fuck Nintendo, they deserve to lose their lawsuits because almost all of them are horseshit

>>729443109
>Remake of a 25 year old game in a dead franchise is wrong
Go lick more boots.

>>729437795
>because they "own" vague apocalyptic setting
You're a disingenuous fucking imbecile.
Tencent basically made a carbon copy but since HZD is disliked around here retards like you pretend they were only vaguely similar.

They're only going after palworld because of their success. There are tons of creature collectors but this one is the first threat

Copyright law is bullshit and shouldn't exist
>oh I didn't make this hypothetical profit I made up in my head because you STOLE MY IDEAS
genuinely kill yourself

pissy that your little troll attempt didn't work in the actual thread, huh?

>>729444437
patent laws are no different.
>guy develops something to make the world a better place, doesn't patent it so everyone can easily afford it or make diy versions
>greedy jew takes it and runs straight for the patent office

>>729444437
>>729445052
These are both tools of government censorship (alongside trademark law).
The goal is consolidation, since smaller companies can not properly contest these suits in court and NME capital becomes something that a publisher can hoard for the purposes of generating revenue through marketing and reprinting value.

>>729437679
soi faggot furry trap vs chad pal simulator

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Zoroark

>>729437727
Same. Watching an AI slop company that pours billions into stealing other IP's get into a legal battle with the retards at gamefreak is great, both of them deserve to lose everything.

>>729437679
>Does anyone genuinely side with Palworld
I do because Nintendo deserve to be taken down instead of suing every competitor.
Then I want Palword to crash for unrelated reasons.

>>729437679
I always side with the defendant in lawsuits regarding patents and copyrights.

>>729437854
Wtf snoys have great taste now?

>side with
nintentoddlers are mentally ill

>>729442048
Why does everyone move so gay?

>>729437854
Or people liked those things more than their modern equivalents without being "snoys". Is that a possibility in your mind or does everyone who doesn't like modern Nintendo hate all of Nintendo forever?

I've played pokemon since the first gen and palworld was an ok game pretty entertaining, beats legends games without effort.
Love both franchises but the nintendo lawsuit is based on bullshit, don't think they can win it, probably just trying to make palworld devs go bankrupt with legal fees

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I always take the side against Nintendo, no matter what the issue is. You can always be sure Nintendo's position is the most draconian anti-consumer bullshit

>>729437679
Why the fuck you did a 2024 post?

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I, BITCHachu-sama, mascot of the HIGHEST-GROSSING FRANCHISE and JOBBER of the vidya industry humbly kneel to:

Shuntaro Furukawa-sama, former employee of TPC, current Nintendo CEO, and my master.

TPC-sama, my one and only true love and other master.

Atlus-sama, who I shamelessly ripped off via SMT for my gameplay only for them to strike back with CHADsona.

Palworld-sama, who my daddy Furukawa warned me about.

Enix-sama, who easily manhandled me with Dragon Quest Monsters.

Yugi Muto and Kazuki Takahashi-sama, who anally raped me and first awakened my wish to become a TCG and merchandising franchise first and foremost.

Junichi Masuda-sama, who argued with me and his employees at GameFreak so hard, his departure started to cause the quality of my games to decrease and got me attracted to MEN...

Squaresoft-sama, whose incomparabily soulful JRPGs in the 90s crushed my ass-womb entirely to the point I STILL cannot SUPRASS them, even 22 years after merging with Enix-sama.

Bamco-sama, whose hour-long beatings from the recent Digimon gamed gave me uncontrollable orgasms so massive even the anal rape from Furukawa-sama can't compare.

Itoi-sama, for his Mother Trilogy is the superior JRPG series of my Nintendo MASTERS, and has single-handedly inspired more Indie RPGs than even I have...

Level-5-sama, whose power I am scared of (I am glad they stopped making Yokai Watch and didn't kill my beloved masters, as I was too scared to help them…)

Sandfall-sama, who revenge-raped and mindbroke me and my fanbase via E33 from the sheer pleasure of being made into an onahole after Legends Z-A FLOPPED in France. (I was so sad about it...)

and finally, Monolithsoft-sama, for they will FUCK ME up on the world stage once they release their Zelda RPG and expose me and GameFreak for the frauds we are. (God I hope so…)

>>729437679
>>729437854
you keep making this thread and making the same exact post with the same exact image nonstop you self-victimizing schizo retard.

>>729437679
Palworld looks like slop that I would never play (barring a tremendous discount), but the same could be said for modern Pokemon. I like that there's finally a game that has made Game Freak / Nintendo feel threatened with Pokemon. They should get off their asses and make something worth a shit instead of trying to fight for the status quo.

>>729437795
The same nintendo that thinks they can own the idea of having 2 monsters battle in turn based combat? Fuck off and shove that patent up your ass

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>>729437679
>>729437795
>>729438930
samefagging retard who does this every month or week when he's bored instead of getting a job or a hobby

>>729446324
Reminder nintendo would patent jumping in vidya if they could. summoning monsters. anything to stop competitors.

>an entire thread dedicated to nint*ddlers projecting onto snoyGODS

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>>729437679
Yes
Patent trolling videogame mechanics would bring about the death of videogames.
Every game today is a mashup of mechanics from other games.
You need the freedom to create your vision without being hamstrung by lawyers.

fuck nintendo and their petty patent trolling

>>729437679
>yellow associated with electricity
Oh no, another nindtendo patent violation

Imagine spending all day making threads defending your favorite corporation on the internet. What a sad life.

>>729447014
i find it funny that people had found out the creators of expedition 33 had actual evidence of ai use in Expedition 33 but not this game when they been accusing this game of ai from the very start

Almost sounds like a slander campaign without any verifiable evidence

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>>729447249
im too old for this board entirely save the rare retro thread, if /vr/ had any traffic outside the endless doom and WUZ OCARINA OF TIME ACTUALY BAD threads i'd go there but its boring and dead

>>729437679
>all yellow rat like cartoon creatures are now Nintendo copyright

Fuck Nintendo and fuck you, you little cocksucker.

>>729437679
Why would I side with Nintendo?

>>729447253
redditfags loved e33, which is why they felt so betrayed by the ai revalation. normies play palworld and normies don't give a shit about ai, only redditfags do. so it's not remotely hard to understand if your iq is above like 80. my condolences, btw.

>>729438542
They made an ark/botw clone first and it is basically unknown. Then they took the exact same game and reskinned the monsters to be pokemon style and that is palworld.

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You'd think that with all the cash grabbing remakes, nintendo manchildren would love Palworld, but I guess the game is too modern for them

>>729439317
Dragon quest monsters

>>729447823
don't get me wrong i don't like e33 as well its way egregious and looks far worser than palworld in my opinion but it's funny how people claim ai was used in palworld yet they can't even prove it but they can for a game like e33 that didn't even have allegations of ai use at laucn

>>729446507
He is not wrong though.

>>729448031
i mean they are made by the same devs that made that game, so it was inevitable

>>729447823
the point is that there's actually 0 proof that palworld used AI despite the endless accusations

>>729448185
hello samefag when are you going to stop and actual post real threads instead of spam threads

I don't particularly care for pokemon and have hated jewtendo for 30 years because they are objectively a shit-tier company (why people don't know this en masse by now is beyond my ken), so hopefully they spend millions of dollars in legal fees and they get nothing out of it.

Live by the jew, die by the jew.

>>729437679
Given that Palworld is an exact ripoff of Conan Exiles and is only otherwise tangentially related to Pokemon because you throw balls at monsters rather than ropes at naked women, I absolutely side with Palworld. Only the lowest of the low IQ retards think Palworld is a Pokemon ripoff (although I do assume the ball mechanics were an attempt to trick said low IQ retards into buying the game).

I hate copyright so the participants don't matter much.
If something is a good idea or a good mechanic, more games should implement it.

>>729438041
>Palworld is le bad
Spotted the braindead tendie

>>729437679
I completely side with Pokemon, not only did rhey steal the designs, they stealer mechanics and gameplay, proof of this is that they removed those mechanics by themselves even before the lawsuit is over because they know they got red handed, only retards would and contrarian kids would side with palworld after seeing that, so pathetic.

>>729440318
Most of it is almost definitely a shit post, but Pokemon did clearly copy the fuck out of Dragon Quest 5 and the Megami Tensei series

>>729448482
Nintendo patented the idea of gliding with a creature you caught and Palworld was forced to remove it lest they actually get sued for "patent infringement" they weren't committing when they designed the mechanics.

i dont think palworld is a particularly good game(it was fun though, made me laugh at least) BUT i think copyright laws are retarded especially in video games
nintendo and especially TPC are some of the worst companies on the face of the earth and i think it's insanely laughable how one of the most aggressively mid games of all time is causing them such concern
sadly they will stomp pocketpair like a big disgusting cockroach stomping on a smaller and marginally less disgusting cockroach

>>729437679
yeah, obviously. i have never played Palworld and the last consoles i owned were the 360/PS3/Wii. seeing nintendo get BTFO is objectively a great thing for the video game industry.

>>729448658
There are many games that let you gluide with creatures, the thing is palworld did a 1:1 copy of it so naturally they had to remove it. Just like they removed the summoning mechanic throwing a "palsphere" , they are just thieves that got caught and I'm happy to see they are getting punished for it.

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>>729448842
fingers with the diameter of a summer sausage typed this faggotbabbe

>>729448482
Nintendo isn't suing for the designs because they know they have no ground for it. Palworld removing the features they are being sued for is a common courtroom move to show goodwill, or can even be temporarily ordered by the judge until the lawsuit is over but isn't an admittance of guilt and absolutely can be reversed.

>>729448528
i find it funny that pokemon fans claims that modern pokemon games are original when they haven't made anything innovative post 2012 at all besides taking mechanics from another game hell Za is just essentially Xenoblade 2 but if it reskinned as a pokemon game which is ironic since palworld is a reskinned ark

>>729448918
But I'm not wrong :)

>>729448842
>a 1:1 copy of it
A copy of what game exactly?

>>729437727
Ironically that makes you just as bad as they are.

>>729448842
not really also its only for captured creatures only which is still kind of unfair

>>729449023
Not unfair if it's stolen. It's only fair for them to remove it. Filthy thieves get what they fucking deserve

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>>729448898
Trvke

>>729449112
it's not stolen if its convenient and easy to make instead of trying to reinvent the mechanic retard also name like 3 games that have you capture a creature and glide on them

>>729448948
What's even funnier is that no one can find a game that's like ZA.

>>729437980
Unironically this. It's classic controversy marketing tactics
If snoys were so present why wouldn't they ruin
>Fire emblem daily generals
>Pokemon spam
>Zelda girls Saturday threads
?

Reminder Nintendo can only sue them in Japan, they'd be laughed out of courts worldwide anywhere else.

>>729449182
>xenoblade 2 but if it was pokemon

there found you one op

>>729449180
Being convenient and easy doesn't mean it isn't stolen it just means that's the reason they stole it.

>>729448842
>a 1:1 copy of it
Of which Pokemon game exactly? And how was it a copy when things like all other games did weren't?

why do you keep making this thread

>>729449245
Pretty sure they are also suing in muhrica but aren't exactly advancing on that front.

>>729449270
Case in point.
You saw two characters on screen and thought that they were the same.

The kicker is that Xeno 2 has 6.

>>729449334
To post in it pretending to be a tendie to make screenshot to post in the Famitsu threads going
>SEEEE SEEEEEEEE! TENDIES BAAAAAAD! THEY'RE OBSESSING OVER PALWORLD!

>>729437679
who wouldnt

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>>729438023
>sells less than the snoy 5 and nex playground in the christmas months, despite being priced the same

>>729449289
you just killed your own argument why does anyone care for a basic thing in physics that's basically impossible to patent when it's just essentially gliding i would get if it was very specifics things like doing tricks on a glider or you can imbue the glider, but this is just essentially gliding on a creature at the end of the day

>>729448675
>one of the most aggressively mid games of all time is causing them such concern
It isn't. It's Conan Exiles with monsters instead of naked bitches. Nintendo and Gamefreak definitely know this, and their legal action is just cheaper than advertising. They hammed it up after months of retarded fat balding spastics telling them to sue until it finally got their attention. It's so fucking aggravating and insane to me when people call Palworld a Pokemon ripoff. I really don't get how fucking stupid you would have to be to even think of it as the same genre. Temtem is a Pokemon ripoff. Nexomon is a Pokemon ripoff. Hell I might even consider World of Final Fantasy a Pokemon ripoff, at least comparatively speaking.

Palworld is Conan Exiles mostly, but it's also fucking Rust or The Forest before it is Pokemon. Any time anyone says that Palworld is a Pokemon ripoff I have to assume their hallway chirps. I don't even like the game, I am not trying to defend it as if it's good or innovative. I just think Pokemon comparers are among the most retarded people on this board. It's completely fucking retarded to compare the two, and this is why it took months of people screaming and shitting their pants for Nintendo to actually take legal action despite how much they love to sue people.

I'm so fucking tired of seeing these threads. You fucking retards. Play 15 minutes of Conan Exiles and then refund it, and you'll see how retarded you sound when you compare it to Pokemon instead.

>>729449532
It's a shame that the ps5 ended up selling less than the nex isn't it.

>>729449348
are you fucking retarded the ui is literally the same and not to mention gameplay its just reskinned Xenoblade i feel as if Op isn't sending the best of his iq

>>729437679
The lawsuit is over a mechanic that Pokémon didn't invent, it's absurd.

>>729449730
And to add onto this Gamefreak couldn't even make their own fighting game even if they tried so they just went to konami to copy and paste pokemon over tekken

>>729449632
Simple, because patents aren't concepts they're functions so their gliding wouldn't be the same gliding in any other game
Also way to shoot yourself in the foot by showing you don't know what you're talking about considering it was never about the gliding mechanic but the quick switch between mounted forms based on what's needed.

Then again I can't expect someone like you to understand the difference between concept and function.

>>729449650
I can explain this easily my friend: pokemon fags dont actually give a fuck about the pokemon games themselves. look at the dogshit they'll play as long as it has pokemon in it. they just care about le epic marketable mascots and gamefreak knows it, most of the money from pokemon is from merchandise after all. they dont give a fuck if you copy their game formula to a T, but if you copy the style of their cartoon animals THAT is hitting their real money

>>729448675
>and i think it's insanely laughable how one of the most aggressively mid games of all time is causing them such concern
Oh it isn't, you're just obligated to defend your IPs if any infringement comes to light.
Basically with the Palworld fanbase going
>HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHA SUE US NINTENDO SUEEEEE USSSSSSS!
they attracted their attention and Nintendo found something and couldn't play dumb like they usually do.

>>729449903
The problem is that the ones comparing the gameplay to pokemon are palfags who want to move away from the Ark accusations.

It's almost like they've never actually played any of these games.

>>729449895
dude you cannot be serious right now its GLIDNG, GLIDING FOR FUCK SAKE its not something unique that doesn't exist in reality ITS LITERAL GLIDING it wouldn't be fair if Fortnite patented the idea of gliding to the ground since its literally just floating down to the ground and honestly i don't fucking care if you use the excuse OH it was coded a different way that's still bullshit since its literally fucking simple

>>729450012
>Oh it isn't, you're just obligated to defend your IPs if any infringement comes to light.
this is what the law says but nothing related to intellectual property legal shitflinging is what the law says anyway nowadays, basically if you own an IP you can just rape people in the ass with no logical cause or reason and it's fine as long as you're richer than them

>>729437679
oh no they're infringing their intellectual "property"! I care about this for some reason!

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>>729450125
See what I mean?
I literally told you it wasn't the concept but you just can't see beyond that. You're quite literally too stupid to understand the difference which is why you're getting mad.

>>729450314
novel technical invention isn't a fucking concept you retard stop acting like you above the iq of 30

Yes. Nintendo is fucking trash, Stifling creativity that threatens their ability to pump out the lowest effort fucking trash to sell at a premium and threatening lawsuits on anyone and everyone because they bully anyone with legal fees and try to bankrupt them before they can even fight back. Fuck Nintendo

>>729450145
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?
No one has ever won an IP case out of sheer attrition. No one would want to because it would be too costly for both parties.

>>729450430
How is plagiarism creative?
Freedom to steal stifles creativity, not the other way around because there would be no need to innovate or improve on existing designs. Everything would just stagnate.

>>729450462
do you already not remember the time when blizzard was able to strongarm valve into changing "Skeleton king" in dota 2? besides, if the world is shitty(it is) then nintendo will eventually win the palworld dispute too

>>729450462
He's probably going to bring up times when a company settled after a string of losses in the lawsuit because they knew they weren't going to win.

>>729437679
This kind of "copying" is normal and only Judeo-litigious societies have a problem with it.

>>729437679
Nintendo pulls the fire alarm at Palworld at behest of CEO

>>729450523
nta but dude the industry is already just that and it will exist regardless of palworld but thinking that pokemon sueing palworld is somehow going to fix that is level 10 type of delusional

>>729450585
You clearly fucking don't because Valve changed it to avoid a lawsuit, not because of one.

>>729437854
Stop defacing Yazan, he would never care about your schizo cause

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>>729437679
I'm very much anti modern copyright law. The system is rigged to allow corporation with infinite money to go "this very abstract concept is mine now, you can't have it" just so they can do shit like this. It's monopoly under a different name.

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>>729437679
Oh boy this thread again

>>729449182
>What's even funnier is that no one can find a game that's like ZA.
It has pixelmon's capture mechanics, it has palworld's battle system and it has borderlands shit writing. What more do you fucking want you mentally ill tendie?

this nigga gonna talk to himself for 20 hours again huh
just one of those days

>>729450758
>but dude the industry is already just that
It's really not. Let me explain it in a way you'll understand, you're probably seeing it as.
>Nintendo only makes Mario over and over
>Sony only makes Talladega Nights over and over
>Microsoft only makes Halo over and over
>Capcom only makes Street Fighter over and over
But if you had your way and people weren't "stifled" it would be like so
>Nintendo only makes Mario over and over
>Sony only makes Mario over and over
>Microsoft only makes Mario over and over
>Capcom only makes Mario over and over
Freedom is stifling to creativity because it's human nature to take the path of least resistance and believe it or not being original requires effort so if you want creativity to bloom you need to remove the ability to freely use ideas made by someone else so new ideas can come forth. Get it?

>>729451126
And accurate description for starters. The fact that you can control your pokemon sets it apart from Palworld massively.

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>pocket (the) money

>>729451318
>The fact that you can control your pokemon sets it apart from Palworld massively.
Are you ok you tendie cultist?

Nintendo hasn't made a good game in 15 years, pokemon in 25, companies shouldn't be allowed to exist based solely off IP value, nostalgiapandering and bullying, fuck both these companies.

>>729437854
Why did this autist mention sony?
Can somebody explain?

>>729439353
Podmom for all three, or failing that Podmom, Baamen, and Mothragon. I'm going to raise so many fucking PeaPeas

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>>729437679
It's honestly quite incredible that no one seems to have a problem with Nintendo's biggest series selling the same game twice every new generation.
Fire Emblem tried that once with Fates, and they immediately went right back to selling full titles in one game. Which says a lot since they have a Gacha game going on to this day, you'd think it would be free money to sell a second game with maybe 5 enemies/characters with no dialogue differences but they don't.

>>729451535
Palworld isn't on the Shitch, therefore any mention of it makes it Sony related despite the fact that the game didn't even launch on the PS4/5

>>729451238
alright let me give you philosophical question if everyone started patenting the simplest ideas how that would help creativity and why would that somehow help someone create something new cause the only game i saw that was innovative despite not playing it anymore was lethal company which was a dime and a dozen games that had an original plot

also you just answered you question since that's all game companies do, is trudge the same game 24/7 instead of branching out Nintendo can't even throw out original games anymore like they did back then for their wii and wii u days they had bangers that were actual creative even if some were shovelware but damn if i told you some of those shovelware games were way more creative than most modern games and indie games you'd flip out

also, why tf would i want to throw money at a company that barely did any effort

>>729450928
Nah, Yazan would hate you lot with a burning passion.

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>>729451636
Nta, and while I agree with you, please for the love of god use punctuation and commas.

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>>729451625
>Shitch

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>>729451625
>>729451651
this is exactly why you're a bum just spamming the exact same shitty thread instead of actually finding a hobby and ignoring this game, instead you treat this game as some sort of boogie man that haunts you every week also this is just an obsession it's not even shitposting anymore it's a mental illness

>>729451910
>punctuation and commas
i sometimes care for punctuations and commas but most of the times im too lazy to go through my sentences but i do take that seriously when it involves my job but i wouldn't take it seriously here since /v/ is a shithole that barely has anything interesting nowadays

>>729451636
>if everyone started patenting the simplest ideas
They would all be rejected. You can't patent a simple idea in that way but let's say you can, that would run into the same issue as unfettered creativity because allowing so many patents would mean very lax rules like changing the size of a gear by one nanometer.
It wouldn't have those necessary restrictions so people would just copy the same idea making very little changes.

I suppose on some level you could consider it an innovative process but would be extremely slow.

In other words, you're right in that it wouldn't help creativity but you're wrong because it's the same issue you had in the first place.

>also you just answered you question since that's all game companies do
Which it isn't, like I said, that's supposed to be how YOU see it. In reality most developers are trying to make new things for each game so even if it's the same IP it's not the same game on a functional level, Street Fight 1 and Street Fighter 2 are fundamentally different games and while 2 set the foundation for the series the other games have mechanics, gameplay modes, features etc that set it apart.
That's also not saying each version is an improvement but there's obvious change for better or worse showing that they aren't putting out the sane thing over and over.

It seems like you only have a surface level understanding of how any of this works, which is understandable, most casuals and non creatives don't really think this deeply so take that as you being excused for misunderstanding.

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>>729452063
Seething about Nintendo and making falseflag threads to search in the archive and screenshot isn't a hobby anon.
What DO you actually do?

Nintendogs resorting to eating eachother is fascinating to watch.

>>729452684
Dude, we know it's you op there's no reason to use the "no you" card when you get caught you

>>729452810
If I were op I'd be shilling Palworld and calling you a tendie.
But hey, why don't you tell us all your hobbies? You do have more than just shitposting, right? You don't dedicate your life to this, right?

>>729437679
Yes, everyone except NintoddIers.
Also lmao at 4chan trying to censor the word nintoddIers.

>>729451617
Probably because the games are 99.99999% identical and they don't need you to buy two, it's just a cheap excuse to have a few different mons and make you trade with friends to make it a social experience.

It's also a non-issue since Gen 4 with global trading. Now you don't even need friends and a link cable like you did back in the day, you can just go online and trade with anyone on earth. I never got why people act like you need to buy 2 games and 2 systems and trade with yourself like its some evil plot, it was just a way to make kids be social and hype the game up among friends.

Now something like loot boxes, season passes, FOMO or microtransactions? Those are greedy as fuck, yet Gamefreak doesn't do any of that. The company is more stupid than they are evil.

>>729453126
Don't look up how to get the Kalos Megas in ZA

Capcom lost the lawsuit claiming Fighter's History was infringing on Street Fighter.

>>729451617
>It's honestly quite incredible that no one seems to have a problem with Nintendo's biggest series selling the same game twice every new generation.
>Fire Emblem tried that once with Fates, and they immediately went right back to selling full titles in one game.
You're kind of showing why there isn't an issue.
With Fates the reason why was because despite being the same story from different sides it was a different game
Different maps
Different characters
Different castle stuff etc
You HAD to buy both and third story dlc to get everything.
With pokemon you just buy one of the two and then trade for what you can't get, you don't have to buy both so no one cares, only collectors ever buy both.

>>729452424
>innovative process but would be extremely slow
so, i didn't read your whole sentence since you ignored the whole point when i said philosophical as in, if it was possible to

but then again you think removing palworld from the industry or steam page would somehow help people be creative. when there's literally no actual innovation in the monster taming indie community besides "pokemon but if it was 2d turnbased etc" which isn't really innovative since its just following the same principals as modern pokemon

and honestly i do have a understanding of the industry even if it's somewhat in the middle since i gave up on it a bunch of years back since it wasn't worth it for me, since making games aren't cheap you can code them but then you have to constantly pay people to polish or either debug your game, not to mention play test if you're lucky to get them to playtest it for free and actually get them to actually give you good point outs but most

indie devs on the other hand, burn themselves out before they even can see their ambitions ever blossom, not to mention the raging decrease in mental health in most of the indie community. some indie game might be good, but they won't ever see the popularity as most industrialized games unless they get a brand deal to be advertised and even when they do get popular, they usually go through the cycle of losing its perpetual players due to the creator either losing interest in it then stop updating it.

so once again why do you think patenting novel ideas is some sort of blessing for game devs when there are way glaring problems then some idea that some shitfuck company patented claiming it's for the sake of creativity

>>729453875
>With pokemon you just buy one of the two and then trade for what you can't get, you don't have to buy both so no one cares, only collectors ever buy both.

>has to go through the trading system just to get the other one which is rng or basically ask a friend who has the other one

nta but idk man that still sounds dumb why not just combine both games so you can capture both seems like a way to try to make people decide between buying both since you need to get every pokemon just to get a full dex

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I only have one question, are pokefags PROUD of what Pokemon's output looks like?
Because i am not gonna lie, the fact that Nintendo & co. would rather sue palworld than out-do it is just shameful as fuck, and it's not like Palworld looks any better given the asset flip quality, but pic related runs like shit on its native hardware on top of looking like shit while Palworld's latest update optimized the game to make it run a tad smoother on the Steam Deck.
>"Oh but it sold?"
Did it outsell Palworld's 15M from its first few months? Did it outsell Palworld's latest record of 32 Million?

>>729439353
I want all of these as real Pals.

>>729452892
>still using the "no u" card

jeez shartnoids aren't really sending their best dude really think he's ragebaiting people but the best he's doing is sounding more retarded

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And because i know somebody's going to say ''but gameplay fun!'', sorry but i played LZA and the gameplay managed to be worse and more monotone than Xenoblade 3's "gameplay". To say less the story was just an embarassment full of janky camera and choreography that clearly fucking shows the game was meant to have a fucking voice acting cast, but shit comes off as a fucking unfinished game.

Gamefreak feeds you an unfinished game while Nintendo has to take Gamefreak's fucking shameful embarassment for them and they can't even do a thing about it (Nintendo literally offered Gamefreak a bigger budget and more programmers to help, GF says [No] to all of that shit) but cover their tracks, which has gotten harder and harder for them seeing how the last time we saw anything surface from the lawsuit was their patents being almost rejected as in the judge wants Nintendo to revise their vague ass patents.

the irony of people calling others contrarian

>>729448427
what's it like being inbred?

>>729454865
What's it like taking corpo dick up your ass every day, faggot?

>>729454184
yeah
being proud of palworld selling anything is like being proud of selling ai art
it wouldn't surprise me if they just ran a bunch of pokemon through an ai generator and then just took parts of the models they liked from scarlet/violet, like how they took the map and entire framing of their previous game from botw.
People sucking off a literal bootleg with the most basic bitch early access shit imaginable because they didn't like scarlet and violet and framing it as being "anti corporate" is bullshit. It's contrarianism at its finest.
>>729454547
ZA's fun nobody's comparing it to fucking xenoblade 3 besides you, you insufferable autistic retard
>>729454925
I don't know, you tell me, you're the one cheering for bootleg slop from another corporation because your dad that's also your brother didn't buy you a switch, so instead you come on here and shitpost on an apple tablet, you fucking faggot

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wasn't one of the patents pocketpair's being sued for about mounts?
Insane to think about that when pokemonLZA did NOT use pokemon mounts at all, Gogoat riding was in one of the leaked beta builds and then it got scrapped, imagine Nintendo defending Gamefreak's bullshit game with bullshit patents only for gamefreak to not implement PATENTED GAMEPLAY MECHANICS that palworld's being sued for.
Meanwhile Palworld had no issues implementing rides so clearly something is not right here with pokemon and that's Gamefreak being a trash ass studio and anybody gobbling up their shit should be ashamed of themselves.

>>729453916
>i didn't read your whole sentence
Of course you didn't, I didn't expect you to, like I said before you have a surface level of understanding of how these things work and such you can't wax philosophical. I knew from the start that you wanted your hypothetical to work in an impossible way hence the first line of the post
>They would all be rejected. You can't patent a simple idea in that way but let's say you can

>but then again you think removing palworld from the industry or steam page would somehow help people be creative
Excuse me? Who said that?
Are you trying to make up nonsense just because you're on the backfoot in this conversation? That's not a very smart or rational thing to do. I mean it's not like Palworld will disappear if Nintendo wins the lawsuit, they have an injunction on the mechanics not the game so if they win it just means they won't be allowed to put the mechanics they stole back in.
>when there's literally no actual innovation in the monster taming indie community besides "pokemon but if it was 2d turnbased etc"
Again, base level view. That's like calling every vehicle with a combustion engine a car. Having the same foundation doesn't mean you can't change things around it. That's how innovation works.

>and honestly i do have a understanding of the industry
Judging by this conversation it's obvious you don't. In fact thia chunk of your post reads like someone who looked at a Wikipedia page about game development for five seconds and then you went on a tangent about mental health for some reason like that's relevant, sure it's a thing that may need to be addressed but you haven't made any attempt to link it to our creativity discussion so it just comes off as rambling.

>>729449003
Yes, and?

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>>729455058
>"Palworld is AI!!!''
This shit did not work in 2024, and it certainly won't work in 2026. Meanwhile Sakurai has stated that using AI is good, Nintendo might be using AI for their game's programming and yet nobody cares.

>>729453916
>why do you think patenting novel ideas is some sort of blessing for game devs when there are way glaring problems then some idea that some shitfuck company patented claiming it's for the sake of creativity
You can ask this as many times as you want but the answer won't change, it spurns creativity for the reason mentioned in my previous posts.
By the way, if you're going to say there's a problem then say the problem instead of going
>oh no a company came up with it first and that makes me mad!
I get you see pocket pair as your friend it's just sad seeing someone toss integrity for a company.

>>729454109
Because then you'd have no reason to trade and taking that away is like taking away the fire flower in Mario.

>>729437679
test

>>729454184
>Muh graphics
Graphics are the least important for a game.
>>729454547
>Gameplay bad!
Vague statement. You gave no objective reasons to why the gameplay is bad.

>>729437854
No one is a bigger Snoy than Nintendo fans.

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>>729455158
>imagine Nintendo defending Gamefreak's bullshit game with bullshit patents only for gamefreak to not implement PATENTED GAMEPLAY MECHANICS that palworld's being sued for.
Yeah, you certainly have to imagine that situation.

>>729455519
Yeah anon, Nintendo fans definitely like Sony.

>>729455058
IKR?
This is pure NDS. Palniggers prefer to cheer for a half baked early access game just to "get back at Pokémon".
It's ridiculous.

>>729455402

>Because then you'd have no reason to trade from an exact copy of the same game but with a different story

GOOD

how come they didn't sue digimon

>>729442048
>Copying animation quality from Dragon Age Inquisition
Dastardly.

>>729455297
Are YOU an AI?
Because that anon didn't even say Palworld was AI, he's saying that being proud of it is like being proud of AI art because both are on the same level of laziness relying on stolen ideas.

Man that phrase really broke you though, didn't it.

>>729455614
>Snoys
>liking Sony
?

>>729455464
>Graphics are the least important for a game.
Are you really going to justify Pokemon looking like a shitty gmod mod? On this same year, Nintendo released Metroid Prime 4, which looks good even on the switch 1.
You do not have a single strand of integrity in your body, ad you'll likely give me equally vague statements on why LZA's gameplay is fun.

>>729455848
Yes they love Sony.
They just hate other platforms more

Incidentally, tendies are known for being idorts.

>>729437679
Do did Nintendo this time claim to invent rodents or electiricity or guns or....?

>>729455803
>he's saying that being proud of it is like being proud of AI art because both are on the same level of laziness relying on stolen ideas.
>>729455058
>it wouldn't surprise me if they just ran a bunch of pokemon through an ai generator
All i see here's a mere accusation.

>>729455873
You're talking about integrity like integrity is only skin deep.

>>729455976
Then you don't know what a accusation is, do you. For the record, if he did that sentence would look like this
>Pocketpair just ran a bunch of pokemon through an AI generator and that's a fact!

>>729455873
>Are you really going to justify Pokemon looking like a shitty gmod mod?
And what's the problem with that? Graphics are REALLY not important. Only graphicfags care abou graphics.
If graphics mattered, no retro game would be playable.

>>729455958
The patents Palworld's being sued for are for
-Mounts, a gameplay mechanic that has existed since eons ago (even on Nintendo hardware and they certainly didn't patent horse mechanics when OoT came out)
-The act of summoning allied NPC's, something that has existed since forever ago (and is also something that predated Pokemon, SMT is the og in that regard)
-The act of doing the above with a throwable object like a ball.

All of which are gameplay mechanics that existed long before Nintendo filed those patents.

>>729455873
>graphicsfag
>talking about integrity
>while shitting on the idea of gameplay as a whole
Fuck me, you zoomers are never going to live this down.

>>729455939
>They just hate other platforms more
What about PCsnoys?

>>729454547
I got my son LZA for Christmas and he has been enjoying it. Do games really need to be more than entertainment for children?

>>729455225
N-nothing. Sorry.

>>729456140
>And what's the problem with that?
That it harms Nintendo's image????
Look at every fucking other Nintendo game on the switch 1, then look at Legends ZA and find me a game with cardboard textured graphics. Gamefreak's incompetence is harming Nintendo's image that even normies are making fun out of Pokemon's shit to the point that the new content meta that gets clicks is bashing on Nintendo. This shit was not THIS bad until Gamefreak's stupidity had to be actively defended by Nintendo.

>>729456270
>I got my son
>implying a 4chan basement dweller has a family
Funny joke, anon.

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>>729455313
>>729455195
why are you people using terrible ass philosophy also i can reply to one, but Imma try to reply to both

>>729455313
>I get you see pocket pair as your friend it's just sad seeing someone toss integrity for a company.

where did i fucking say this, i am basically essentially agreeing that they should get some sort of punishment but not like this for some petty as shit patent also if mods and other older games predated that idea then it's not really unique that's what i fucking said not whatever you got thinking in you're noggins

>Excuse me? Who said that?
You are literally saying this by saying Palworld getting sued for a novel idea and = more creators get creative when it won't mean anything besides making them take way longer than they have to

>they're just getting an injunction
wtf do you think that does to game development you tard? money don't grow on trees and money is required to keep a game running and updated

>Your post reads like someone who used wikipedia

sure, see it that way instead of acknowledging that there are way more problems to why creativity isn't a strong suit to why there aren't many creative games in the industry but hey im not the fag who compared an ever-changing engine to a fucking game, that was made one for only one purposeful thing which is being entertainment for some persons taste

>>729456340
Why it harms Nintendo's image?
Pokémon is not made by Nintendo.

I have ai ragebait fatigue

>>729456427
>novel idea and
You can disregard the "and" it was a autocorrect mistake when i accidentally pressed tab and no i will not be using punctuation for this conversation if it continues on like this

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>>729456514
Holy fuck it's an ESL, no wonder it can't understand why games like Pokemon are shit that's causing Nintendo to lose some reputation.
Consider one simple fact here, The game below you're defending costs 70 dollars (and more including DLC) while palworld is 30 dollars and that's without accounting the times it goes for sale.
If you can't understand why a 70 dollars game that has the gameplay of a koreanMMO and the graphics of a gmod map made by a 13 year old millenial, then i pity you.

>anyone who criticizes Nintendo is a snoy
I want Nintendo to lose because they need to be better and deserve to be humbled. Sony is so deep in the gutter they’re beyond redemption.

Just for further clarification all of what this anon said >>729456174 is complete bullshit.
What they're actually being sued for are the mechanics and not the concepts aka HOW it works and not what they are.
As for specifics its
>the quick switching of mounted characters based on context ie pressing an input to instantly change from the sea mount to the flying mount without any sudden interruption of momentum
>the three input method of entering an aim mode, targeting an NPC or object, and launching an object
NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT PERTAIN TO THE CONCEPT OF MOUNTS OR THROWING BALLS ANYONE CAN USE THAT FREELY. THIS PERTAINS TO THE UNDERLYING MECHANICS. WHILE THE CONCEPTS AND OLDER MECHANICS EXISTED PRIOR THIS VERSION DID NOT.
I wrote this in all caps because people find the idea of patents confusing despite how simple it is.

Also they aren't being sued for summoning at all, that's an unrelated patent from another story that this anon is trying to wrap into the lawsuit to trick people who he considers less intelligent than he is.

I hope you have a good day.

>>729456774
>I want a company to fail because my fee fees got hurt on the internet
Grow up.

>>729456808
>>the quick switching of mounted characters based on context ie pressing an input to instantly change from the sea mount to the flying mount without any sudden interruption of momentum
>>the three input method of entering an aim mode, targeting an NPC or object, and launching an object

nta but\ weren't there news that there are mods that predates these mechanics i still think its bullshit that they think switching out of mount is unique when it's so novel that it hurts

>>729456925
Op is the only one that needs to grow up to be honest since he is obsessed with a game that he can ignore instead of spamming about 24/7 a week

>>729437679
Why should Nintendo and Gamefreak own a genre they didn't even invent?

>>729456808
Good explanation.
But that doesn't make the situation any less despicable. Patenting the implementation of mechanics is bullshit and jewish. Might be legally binding but is for sure morally reprehensible.

>>729438052
I know thats not what the patents are over but I'd chalk it down to some of the pal designs. If they kept it to just a few nods in pokemons direction they would have gotton away with calling it parody/homage and I doubt Nintendo would have bothered but the sheer amount of plagurism/asset flips cannot be ignored especially when they are so blatent.

>>729457240
>pal designs
if that was the case and if that found out that would say they were scared of losing a case on the whims of vagueness but i do agree some of the designs are way too similar but a lot are just stretches with some sharing common anime trope faces that pokemon.co themselves don't own

>>729456808
>>the three input method of entering an aim mode, targeting an NPC or object, and launching an object
Isn't this just like throwing a fucking grenade in any other third person shooter?

>>729437679
Fuck Nintendo and it's fan, I honestly think any tendie fan over the age of 12 should be killed.

>>729457594
i wouldn't go that far but a mental institution is better if they have some sort of extreme autism

Kinda crazy that nintendo can release the most dogshit game they have released in recent memory, and still have a horde of fanboys that defend their retarded copyright trolling.
Like, id get it if miyazaki had a diehard fanbase that defends his corporation because every one of his games has been good, but pokemon hasnt released a good game since black & white.
What keeps them engaged? Is it really porn, plushies and cardboard?

>>729456427
>why are you people using terrible ass philosophy
The fact that you think there are two people talking to you like the character limit doesn't exist explains a lot about why you can't understand any of this.
That said, it's obvious you're just using that as an excuse to ignore the bulk of the reply otherwise you would have started from the top instead of picking and choosing.

>where did i fucking say this
Anon, look at the thread you're in, look at the context of the conversation, it's obvious you have some kind of emotional investment or you would be thinking about this properly and not like someone with a bias.
Case in point
>i am basically essentially agreeing that they should get some sort of punishment but not like this for some petty as shit patent
That's how they get punished for plagiarism of a patent.
What I find funny is that because you're a fanboy trying to not come off as a fanboy you're basically saying they should be punished for nothing and that's hilarious.

>You are literally saying this by saying Palworld getting sued for a novel idea and = more creators get creative
Yes, that's what it means.
>when it won't mean anything besides making them take way longer than they have to
Yeah, creativity takes time and effort. Alternatively they could also just pay the creator to use their idea because the other half of a patent is to allow the creator to make a profit on their idea to recoup the losses they incurred while making it. See how it balances out the creation process?
By the way, the fact that you want the same thing pumped out endlessly as quickly as possible says a lot about you and it's frankly very sad.


>instead of acknowledging that there are way more problems to why creativity isn't a strong suit to why there aren't many creative games in the industry
Look at this and tell me you know what you tried to say here anon and be honest.

>>729456976
No, again, that's concept over mechanics. No one who has made an article about the lawsuit with examples of prior art have actually found any that work because they're making the same mistake people here are.

Then you have this guy >>729457492
Who clearly hasn't ever played a shooter before.

>>729456709
PalGODS I kneel...

>>729457492
No?

>>729457768
>says absolutely nothing instead of actual refuting anything while repeating the same bullshit

First i don't want to waste my time explaining to you and some other rando why in my opinions patenting novel mechanics aren't some sort of easy fix to the game industry

2nd. im not even fellating them unlike you with this patent which anyone of you people didn't know was going to happen since NONE of you knew that they had mechanic like this until the patent lawsuit came out most you were saying it was going to be a copyright lawsuit

3rd. and you refusing to acknowledge what i said at the bottom which explains why your small ass brain can't realize that being innovative is the least of the problem of an game developer hence what you said bellow if they can manage to get to the beta and testing process and actually seeing if people would like or it would fade it obscurity like i said before
\/\/\/\/
>creativity takes time and effort.

>>729437679
I side with Palworld on this solely because, like Capcom's Monster Hunter, Nintendo refuses to join the 21st century and make a contemporary, good, Pokemon game. So fuck 'em.

Palworld is actually pretty garbage though.

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>>729437679
Palworld WON

>>729437795
I think this was a lot closer than just robot dinosaurs. I think it was like 90% just horizon instead of just copying the dinosaurs and characters.

>>729457906
Okay this tells me that everyone in this thread pretends to know anything about lawsuit (including me) instead of waiting till its over cause the world is random and anything can so it whatever im done with this after argueing with this fag over the thought of thinking patenting somehow creates more creativity when it really doesn't it just slows it down way too much and if everyone had the power to patent which most don't since it would be a lot of money to do so.

so imma just wait till this thread dies out and wait till palworld either gets its 1.0 release and judge if the creators actually meant sincere with the update or it is just a nothingburger

>>729457906
>Who clearly hasn't ever played a shooter before.
Gears of wars grenade throwing sounds a lot like it.

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>>729437854
>The old Donkey Kong games
>Ocarina of Time
>pre-BoTW Zelda games
>Iwata
>Mario Kart 8
>Metroid Prime 1-3
This is incredibly disingenuous. Bananza was criticized for having the whole gimmick get old in a few hours, which it did. BotW and Mario Kart World were criticized for being open world slop instead of following the formula they always did. Metroid Prime 4's map and the overall game pale in comparison to old Prime games and everyone always loved Iwata, kill yourself you third world faggot.

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>>729437679
Game Freak has been big gay for a long time so fuck 'em.

>>729437861
>DQ fans understand their series originated from something older
I've been in a lot of threads recently that say otherwise.

>>729437854
Laugh at Bombermanfags
>has 100+ games
>one of the most copied games of all time
>revolutionized multi-player in gaming
>had the first HD game ever
>launched the successful B-Daman toyline
>good Nintendo history and had a crossover with Wario and Mario Party 2 unused content
>has other crossovers with Pac-Man, Transformers, Yatterman and Lilo & Stich
>still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone
>series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game
>R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.
>no console game for 5 years
>No games on NSO
>40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events. R2 flopped hard
What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024

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my favorite part about the palworld fiasco is that somehow neither side of the argument has actually played palworld

>aside from a handful of mon designs the game is a dogshit ark clone, not pokemon
>the building is terrible
>the gameplay loop is basic as fuck
>the mon designs that aren't stolen are fucking awful (except gumoss i love him)
>every trailer leading to release has content that wasn't in the game, nor anything resembling it
>the talent system is terrible, as soon as you unlock flying on one mon you can essentially just go to the endgame and chuck traps at high level mons with no consequence
>couldn't even make like 100 designs (including the stolen ones) without recolors
>buggy as FUCK

i was excited for palworld in the original trailers because it looked like a jank parody game, but go ahead and watch the original trailers and see all the shit we never got
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9w97KSEAOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqTJFhbo9zY

>actual human designs
>cities
>castles
>roads
>windmills
>vehicle chases
>rockets
>fusion mechanics
>flying whale pal
>pals with guns
>infiltration missions
>a 3v3 arena
>pal pulled caravans
>pal stacking for building
>actual houses
>petting your pals
>building destruction
>tons of human characters
>using pals to electrify a lake and collect dead fish
>using pals to break open rocks hiding massive amounts of treasure

NONE of this shit is in the game

>>729437679
Nintendo's patent trolling is absurd. Every patent being brought against palworld is not only bustable with prior art, but with examples from more than 20 years ago

>>729459302
not to sound disingenuous but most of the shit on this list got added and the major reason why most of these things are probably scrapped was because they had to change engines

2 fucking years people have been trying to tie palworld to sony. The game didn't even launch on a sony platform. Why are you so fucking autistic OP?

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>>729437854
>Nintendo fans claim to be idorts who love games from multiple consoles
>but shit on anything that isn't a Nintendo exclusive, because all they care about is their petty console wars
The famitsu thread up right now is nothing but autistic retards talking about how Nintendo is the only good company, and how indies are "stale pixeltranny dogshit" compared to them. So you're not in any position to complain about snoys, you two faced, lying, console warring shmuck.

>>729459716
welcome to /v/ anon the board where flamewarring doesn't get checked

>>729459643
>most of this shit got added
i do not believe you

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>>729437679

>>729437679
>Does anyone genuinely side with Palworld
90% of the pokemon community being tired of the absolute shitshow of bugs that was scarlet/violet?
the same people who got proven right that gamefreak can't do shit with the release legends Z?
same problems that will prove again that gamefreak is full of incompetent fucks when pokepia releases?

>>729437679
Nintendo and Pokemon are weak and gay them suing pal world just makes it more obvious.

>>729437679
Holy bait thread, you got a lot of people

>>729459302
>>castles
>>rockets
>>flying whale pal
>>infiltration missions
>>a 3v3 arena
>>pal stacking for building
>>actual houses
>>petting your pals
>>building destruction
>>using pals to break open rocks hiding massive amounts of treasure
These things are in the game now.

>>729441821
>>729442107
You people are truly delusional.

>>729460229
>>729459643
i watched some new patch trailers, and i will apologize this once
it's probably still boring as fuck though

>>729446512
from patenting jumping and sueing them, yes. Nintendo patents shit to protect themselves, there's only two times in history that they've ever used a patent to sue someone else, which shows they clearly aren't as malicious as journos and you journo cocksuckers like to pretend.

>>729442048
i don’t get it, they clearly want to lean into the more ‘anime’-esque stuff with how they have sylux moving with a
>h-hayai!!
afterimage trail at the start, and with the robot guy firing the huge swarm of missiles, but it’s like they’re too afraid to commit to it for some reason and it leaves everything looking weird and stunted in a way that’d look bad to both the chuuni weebs and the average normie
like, there’s no reason sylux doesn’t just ice the guy who knocked his arm down as he does the spin, right? if it was an anime exaggerated movement flourish or something, sure, i’d get it, but trying to keep it all at ‘normie’ just makes it all look weird

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>>729451625
Funny thing, being on the Switch doesn't stop Nintendo fans from hating the game. Terraria got a Switch port a while back, and Nintendo fans despise it for it's "evil pro-consumer practices". One such practice is giving away free DLC. They hate Hollow Knight: silksong for the same thing, along with its "evil predatory pricing". The idea of a game not being sold at 70 dollars is considered a snoy trait.

>HOW DARE YOU ASK COMPANIES TO MAKE SLIGHTLY LESS MONEY?! LINE MUST GO UP

>>729443630
>25 year old game in a dead franchise
anon, another remake of that exact game came out THAT YEAR, nice try lying about the state of the franchise though.

>>729437679
oh yeah? Well I'm so contrarian that I side with billion dollar corporations to spite the little guy. What now huh?

>>729437679
There were way more blatant Pokémon clones in the late 90's to early 2000s. Why didn't Nintendo sue them. Goes to show how far they've fallen in the last 20 years.

>>729437679
How did a simple PC game cause so much malding that tendies still make subtle seethe threads like this every other day?

>>729443932
Since HZD is just gay Enslaved Odyssey to the West
No one takes Snoys cnd seriously
Be honest nigga

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>>729437854
The funniest thing about this post is it proves nintendalits will actively shit on actual nintendo products if someone says "these older nintendo games are better"
Nintendhimmis will actually shit on nintendo to protect nintendo.

"UM, I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY MY DAD DEVELOPED VASCULAR DEMENTIA AND BELTS THE SHIT OUT OF ME NOW, HE'S MUCH MORE VIVACIOUS THAN HE WAS BEFORE"

>>729460892
They make seethe threads about any non-nintendo game. They still shit on Armored Core 6 for never getting a Switch port.

>>729460375
fair and in my opinion it's a step up from its initial state on launch day

>>729460925
eotw was kinda dogshit though, i'm still mad about the "twist"

>>729460375
>Spoiler
But enough about Pokemon ZA

>>729461053
i own palworld, legends za, and digimon time stranger
none of them are good, but ZA is the worst of the 3

Why is /v/ filled with tendie shills

>>729461163
You should see the famitsu thread. It's pure mental illness from top to bottom.

>>729458289
>i don't want to waste my time explaining to you
I can see that because you're just not willing to even read as shown by this statement
>says absolutely nothing instead of actual refuting anything
That said you didn't give any arguments to refute other than the final point about creativity which was in fact refuted with an explanation as to how it works.
At this point it's just obvious that you want to justify theft and unoriginality. Most likely for some petty reason.

>im not even fellating them
That doesn't mean you aren't defending them.
>with this patent
What patent? We aren't talking about specific patent here. We're talking about the concept of patents and ip laws and how they assist creativity and so far you haven't presented any logical argument as to how unfettered freedom will magically result in creative innovation.
You know that's what you were supposed to be arguing, right?
>and you refusing to acknowledge what i said at the bottom which
No, I did acknowledge it in fact I said this to it
>Look at this and tell me you know what you tried to say here anon and be honest.
And you clearly don't know what you're saying because now you're avoiding it.

>>729461118
>digimon time stranger
I like this game. It looks fun to play. Does it have all the important mons, like renamon, wolvermon, etc?

>>729460951
>They make seethe threads about any non-nintendo game
No ok I KNOW that, I was just wondering how THIS particular game generated so much malding from them that they still seethe about it almost 2 years after it released, only because it resembles pokémon.

As someone who owns both a PC and multiple Nintendo consoles I don't get it. Enjoyment of something does not devaluate enjoyment of something else, it's not a black and white situation where you can only enjoy one, and yet they treat Palworld as if it's threating the very existence of the Pokémon franchise.

>>729461254
backtracking like crazy that i didn't even read "Yawn"

>>729437679
Palworld fucked up by making the pals too similar to pokemon. They should have made them all big breasted anthro women, then nintendo wouldn't have a chance

>>729461307
They were hoping that it would be obscure, so it could be discarded as hipster trash. Same mentality they use to shit on people who like Sonic Crosswords or Digimon.

It being a commercial and financial success made them angry.

>>729461262
wolvermon is too new to be in a game anon, but it has like 90% of the staples yes
it's a decent rpg but it's WAY too fucking easy and the sound design is awful. it's also clear there was either development hell or a lot of cut content because of shit like
>plot points repeated ad nauseum
>plot points brought up and then never mentioned again
>characters that get introduced and then disappear
>no character development whatsoever
the digimon models are beautiful, the animations are beautiful, the music is fine and the environments look good. You will spend over half of the game in a sewer level and the game mechanics never get deeper than persona 3
it's FINE, but overpriced, which is a lot more than can be said about ZA

>>729458289
>that being innovative is the least of the problem of an game developer
NTA but if you aren't being innovative in any creative field then you shouldn't be in it.
Also holy fucking ESL sort your English out you Chilean shitlord
>if they can manage to get to the beta and testing process and actually seeing if people would like or it would fade it obscurity like i said before
This shit SOUNDS like you're all for focused tested slop and you can just go fucking kill your dumb nigger self if you want more generic trash.

>>729437679
Does anyone genuinely side with pokemon on this besides jewish kikes?

>>729455519
Considering that all the 'i love snoy' posts are the exact same lately I think it's just tendies falseflagging/begging for attention at this point.

>>729458582
It doesn't work like that in gears of war at all so good job proving him right, faggot.

>>729449003
>if you kill your opponents, they win

>>729461360
and even though this might be my final reply to you

If patents actually meant = creativity, why tf is there barely any unique monster tamers that aren't just a 2d turn based pokemon game

you'd think the patent you toting as way to creativity would motivate game devs to actually create more expressive games instead of the usual 2d monster tamer clone with ugly incoherent monster designs that look like they came out of a randomizer *cassette beasts*

>>729459302
>my favorite part about the palworld fiasco is that somehow neither side of the argument has actually played palworld
That's the sad part, the pro Nintendo side HAS played it. That's why they're pro Nintendo. They know the mechanics are far too close to be coincidence

>>729437951
Even snoytendo fans are disappointed with the Snoytch 2.

>>729461708
Just like you liars "played" non-nintendo indie games, right? I remember you guys shitting on Pizza tower for "being a lame Wario Land ripoff".

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>>729461708
the only mechanic palworld has, that pokemon also has, is catching monsters. the games are not alike in any other way

>>729459104
>No games on NSO
This actually bothers me. I'd love if they got super bomber 1~3 on the SNES player. I didn't own those games, my friend did, and i wasn't smart enough to steal them before his brother sold the whole collection of SNES/N64 games for 10gs of weed.

>>729461697
>why tf is there barely any unique monster tamers that aren't just a 2d turn based pokemon game
Want to know why?
It's because mainline pokemon doesn't have any patented mechanics

And with that the argument is now over and the point is proven.

>>729461850
That's... Not a mechanic.

>>729437679
Pokemon hasn't been good since gen 5, fuck them

>>729460609
No it didn't - wasn't even revealed until a year later

>>729461895
>mainline pokemon has no patented mechanics
>I make a game too similar to it
>Nintendo sues me
>THEN they patent mechanics mid-lawsuit
>people take their side because they're console warriors

>>729461526
>never says anything about not being creative

dude you're the only one who's a fucking esl since you didn't get that i was talking about other problems than just being creative, there stuff like staffing, where you're money goes into , mental health, testing, debugging, polishing, staff team once again and then the final product and deciding to either patch things or leave things how it is.

is it that hard for people to realize that game developing doesn't just consist of creativity cause you can have the most ambitious idea for game but can't get anywhere if there are a bunch of roadblocks preventing you from completing you game or preventing it from getting the succusses you think it deserves

Palworld won

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>>729461895
>mainline pokemon doesn't have any patented mechanics
>despite most indie monster tamer games just being copies of the older generation of pokemon

>>729462017
Meanwhile in reality
>mainline pokemon game has no patented mechanics
>make game similar to it (Cassette beasts, pocket mortys etc)
>nothing happens
>Nintendo patents mechanics for a pokemon spin off
>these patents are approved years before your game releases
>you release your game using stolen mechanics
>get sued
>people take Nintendo's side because they patented it years ago and the mechanics weren't in your original trailer.

>>729462245
Oh wow, the concept of being free to copy harming creativity really broke you didn't it.

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>>729462258
>>you release your game using stolen mechanics
>Stolen mechanics

>>729462258
>these patents are approved years before your game releases
They weren't approved.

>>729462258
>the game totally stole your patents
>which is why you have to constantly change your patents mid-lawsuit just so you can keep suing them
>and your lawsuits even get thrown out by the patent office for being such unmitigated bullshit that even they're not falling for it

>>729437861
PoketoddIers are seething over this.

>>729462245
Nigga what are you doing?
Of course most indie tamers are going to be copies because they didn't patent those mechanics they can FREELY MAKE CLONES, so they fucking do.
If Nintendo had the ability to patent any of them they wouldn't exist.

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This is basically a skub thread, right? No one is actually being serious about this.

>>729462425
Anon the OP is pure bait, what do you think

>>729462258
actually, in reality
>game releases on switch which gives money to nintendo
>isn't even popular so it won't be mentioned that much
>too obscure for nintendo to even care if they mentioned to sue them

there fixed it for you but good try since nintendo fans were the ones begging nintendo to sue them that they had to tell them to stop @ing them

Patent trolling is pure faggotry and current copyright laws heavily favor huge companies that have i sane overreach and get to abuse the law to punish whoever they like. So even though I know it won't be, I hope Nintendo loses, I hope this gets them stripped of 90% of all their patents and that it is a historical loss fpr them that sets a legal precedent that gets them sued by a bunch of other people and that this slowly extends to all big companies.

>>729437861
A lot of these are just
>these two FPS games have guns in them!!!
nowadays
Blatant copying back then tho

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Fuck all consoleniggers for worshipping shitty closed platforms.
Fuck Palworld too for being a mediocre game.

>noooo you cant just use a game mechanic thats OURS
kill 99% of humans now

>>729462376
They were filed in 2021 and approved in 2023. Years is an exaggeration but Palworld still released after they were approved.

You're thinking of the American patents filed in 2022 and approved in 2024. That said, patents are retroactive to the filing date, not the approval date so if Nintendo were to sue in America they would still have years on Palworld.

>>729462490
Can someone explain what this guy is talking about?
He does know that Palworld isn't on switch, right?

>>729462337
how is copy harming creativity and how did this break me you didn't even mention a single good benefit of patenting novel ideas which the only answer you actually gave me was "Well it takes forever so it's good!" which doesn't even sound good at all you should be able to make games with ease (not with ai shit) not fret over trying to make a creative mechanic while wasting so much time and money on that said mechanic

>>729462589
see>>729462509

Go back to licking boot, shill.

>>729462657
im talking about cassette beast that should clear it up for you

>>729462721
A game that doesn't use any patented mechanics? Why is that relevant?

>>729437679
Pokemon has been creatively bankrupt since Gen3. I don't know why people still buy pokemon games other than to cling to childhood nostalgia. I'm glad that another developer has taken the reigns, nintendo has driven pokemon into the dirt. Palworld is the pokemon game we always wanted as kids. It's pokemon coliseum on crack. Instead of suing the pants off the competition, nintendo should focus on making better games.

>>729462784
because it's fucking pointless to sue a game that barely have any sort of relevance not mention its not even unique