Why can't /v/ enjoy new takes on old things?
>>729441581I do. If they had made a one for one remake I would be pissed. In fact I didn't buy it when it released because I assumed it was just going to be a shiny 1 for 1 remake to appeal to retarded zoomers and replace the OG. Imagine my surprise when squeenix didn't do the retarded, easy thing.
Because I'd rather have new things instead. I played the old things already, and if I want, I can go replay them.Although, to be fair, the guys working on Final Fantasy VII Rebirth were never gonna make anything I gave a shit about anyways. ReFantazio mogs.
>you just hate new things!>omg five more games with cloud and sephiroth and tifa? I need ever single one of these!!!>your game doesn't have cloud and sephiroth and tifa in it? then that's boring, I'm not interested...>as I was saying, why does /v/ hate NEW things? are they blinded by nostalgia?>omg new ZACK FAIR lore just dropped!
>>729441701>fact I didn't buy it when it released because I assumed it was just going to be a shiny 1 for 1 remakethey showed off real time combat 5 years before the game released
>>729442003Damn they really are slow at making these shit games huh
>>729441581Why aren't the new takes on old things good?
>>729442268Sometimes they are, but in viirs case, they were not.
>>729442268What isn't good about viir?
>>729441581they didn't fucking commit in making it newwhy the fuck did they promise that shit would change when the core events of ff7 all still happen by the end of rebirth with no timeline deviations in sight
>>729442482Do you think it's flawless? If not, why ask?
>>729441581because they don't actually want a renewed version of thing, they just want to go back
>>729441581I enjoy new things new takes, but hate when that 'new take' is just a sanitized toned down version of what the original delivered.
>>729441581I enjoy them when they're good and not an embarrassing disaster that makes no sense on its own
>>729441581If it was a new take I'd love it. But they're terrified of actually doing new things and it constantly snaps back into the OG. Everything new goes nowhere and is just timewasting. Every time you think the new stuff is going somewhere, it isn't, and half an hour later everyone is on the OG path again.You can pretend it's /v/ who is afraid of change if you want, but to me it's SE who are scared. They don't commit to any change of lasting consequence.
These new games seem to not respect your time at all. It's insane how little happens in the span of 40 hours
>>729441860I have never understood why we're so often lectured about not being able to enjoy new things by people who have spent the past 3 decades buying anything FF7 related
>>729442512It's not without flaws but I do not see those as dealbreakers.
>>729442692And what would be a dealbreaker to you? Or will you like all these games regardless of their faults no matter what?
>>729442664In Rebirth, I agree.In Remake, the game purposefully introduce you to the world and characters first before actually going to the main conflict. If you are coming from the original, it is actually good.
>>729441581I do, i enjoyed RE2, RE4 and i even enjoyed Rebirth. Remake was the very definition of padding for the sake of padding.
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>>729442482What is? It sure isn't the padding. Or the Flanderization of characters. Or the Compilation-tier writing with seven alternate timelines shit.
>>729442810It's the other way around. Remake stretches a 5 hour section to breaking point, where Rebirth expands on many different locations where it makes sense to do so.
>>729442898OG Midgar during that portion is heavily underrated. You don't get to feel the true scale of the city in the OG, even though it's in the conflict right and center.>>729442891>Flanderization of charactersYou are truly a minority on this.
>>729441860this is a good point
>>729442898It's crazy how many criticisms of Remake turned out to be valid once Rebirth came along. In retrospect the critics were right about a lot of things.
>>729443002>the majority enjoys capeslop writing with Red XIII dancing like MJ and Tifa and Aeris constantly acting like uguu kawaii TikTokers that can't go three seconds without some exaggerated body movement so autistic Japanese salarymen get their intention with the subtlety of a sledgehammer I know.
>>729442891Regardless of what happens in part 3 it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and you'd like it, because you get more time with the characters. At some point fans like you became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is DC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
>>729443171I can't deny this without being dishonest.Truth is, if SE released an objectively bad game about Cloud and Tifa tomorrow, I would buy it. And so would many, many others.
>>729441581I'd like it if it wasn't for the fucking retarded ghosts interupting the story in some clumsy attempt to make a meta narrativenor did they need to stretch the original game's opening 5 hrs into 35 by adding stupid shit no one wants
>>729443171Did you reply to the wrong post, autist?
>>729442606>They don't commit to any change of lasting consequence.Ultimately boils down to their unwillingness to do it. This project exists by the pressure of a demanding fanbase, not out of their personal desire revisit it. Kitase's initial vision would have been a lot more bold, might have been intriguing. It is what it is.
>>729443328No? I was agreeing with him. Which post do you think I should have replied to?
>>729442606It's a remake, the fuck did you expect?
>>729443504>the fuck did you expect?The same storyline until they said it would change. Then Part 2 came and went ignoring that entire promise.
>>729443504>why do you guys hate new takes on old things?I don't, in fact I'd like if they did more new stuff with it>BUT IT'S A REMAKE!!!Make up your damn mind, faggot.Seems like there's no "correct" way to say anything bad about this game.
>>729441581How about new things instead
>>729443497>"I was agreeing with him">All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash>They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and you'd like it, because you get more time with the characters>At some point fans like you became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're inLook up the meaning of the word "you". Or better yet, don't copypaste shit wholesale.
>>729441581God this thread and board is so autistic over ff7r
>>729444170I'm sorry, I overestimated your intelligence. And this time, I DO mean you.
Because all "new takes on old things" are cynical corporate cashgrabs. Example in OP.
>>729444567>God this thread and board is so autisticnew?
>>729444567I was so sure the switch announcement would be the end of all negative posts about viir but alas
>>729444621>no argument I'll accept the concession.
>>729441581/v/ hates good games. the gooder the game the angyer they get
>>729441581I'm interested in the FFVII remake, it's just too expensive right now. It would be interesting if you get to briefly explore one of the plate sectors and see how the privileged citizens get to live.
I just need more delicious Yuffie
>>729441581It depends on the circumstances In this instance, it's a decent game, but it's fucking bullshit if you waited since the PS3 tech demo for a honest remake, and instead got a modernized complete reimagining, that targets those who'd buy no matter what because it's ff7, those who'd get anything actiony, and normies wanting to see what all the hub-bub is about now that the characters don't look like the tesla truck because most normies are graphicsfags, and vice versa
