>he still owns a mechanical keyboardWhy haven't you made the switch over to hall effect or optical keyboards?
The real question is why haven't you retvrned to ball mice?
I just buy the newest Corsair whenever I need a new one, every few years
niggertech for gorilla retards
I don't care
>>729456359I have a Wooting 80HE with the KDE GT80 chassis already.
this board is not a fucking advertisment spacekys, shill
>>729456359Nigga its a keyboard. You press the button and a letter pops up on the screen. As long as the buttons don't stick or double press what more do you need? I've been using the same logitech g213 for years (since 2022)
>>729456531>advertisement>checks OP's post>no mention of brandsHuh? You illiterate, nigger?
>>729456619basically, you are stupid, so you're right it wouldn't make a difference for you
>>729456359why should I? my 10 year old Ducky still worksNow excuse me, I should probably clean it since I haven't in years. I finally found my de-cap tool.
>>729456359>Circumcised keyboardsCan I buy a full size HE or TMR for less than 150€?
>>729456619>logitech g213>70 dollars of logitrashWhy tho? You could have gotten a pretty nice mechanical keyboard for less.
>>729456359Why are keyboardfags like this ?
no numpad no buy
>>729456465I do
>>729456359Always shilling the same overpriced junkRETVRN
I have an excellent mechanical with a numpad, a volume knob and some bonus programmable buttons. Why would I switch?
>>729456796CHADhan does it again
>>729456359because they are completely useless
>>729456796Numpads belong on the left-side of the keyboard for gaming and right-side for work. This is why detached numpads are king.
>>729456359It was a massive waste of money and I have learned my lesson, will return to buying cheap $20 membranes after this. They've never failed me.
>>729456796here you go
>>729456359the keyboard i have works fine
>>729456796my man
>>729456359current keyboard has been going strong for like 7 years, no need to buy a new one yet
>>729456842I use the thumball from Gameball for work. It's pretty nice. 1,000 Hz polling rate. Feels nice. I game with the Keychron M5 tho. 8K polling rate and the PixArt 3950 sensor (best on the market right now). It is the 3rd fastest mouse on the market (lowest click and sensor latency) behind a 300 dollar and 200 dollar mouse.
>>729456980>numpad sold as DLC>costs more than a full size keyboard
>>729456359>tall keys
>>729457085how do you like the M5? my main hobby and side job is graphic design/3d modeling and i've been looking for something with a side scroll wheel
>>729457085>a 300 dollar and 200 dollar mouseI'm sorry, what the fuck?
>>729456359i still use a membrane keyboard
>>729457085Just as warning but a lot of games cannot handle 8k polling rate and it takes its toll on the DPC latency.
>>729456465ball mice fucking suck ass and you're coping hard if you think they're better in any way compared to optical / laser
i have an optical.feels exactly the same as my ancient mechanical keyboard with cherry red switches but i got it on liquidation for like 20 bucks so i'm not angry about it being a marginal improvement at best.
I bought a heavily discounted Razer Huntsman for osu and it feels and sounds like shit compared to mechanical keyboards. I can't speak for other brands but a relatively strong spring with no feedback seems terrible in practice like poking rubber with your finger I much prefer a weak spring with "mechanical" resistance or however you want to call it, I'll even take the pop of a rubber membrane over it. Razer optical mouse switches also feel like trash desune so it might be these soulless chinks fault.PS 60% is a meme I hate it with all my soul but I have only myself to blame for that choice
>>729456359
>>729456359>he paid more than $30 for his keyboardShalom.
I just don't understand the obsession with RGBTQ+ lights on everything nowAt this point I don't want a keyboard with backlighting anymore
>>729456359I like the clickety clacks that my mechanical keyboard does
Because I'll woop your ass regardless of my peripherals. Put a ball mouse and a numpad in front of me and I'll still win 9/10.
>>729456359It's pretty funny that a failure prone tech like mechanical switches became popular. Rubber dome keyboards never break.
>>729457316Companies like Logitech and Razer want you to buy their overpriced garbage for $200-$300 when you can buy something like this from China that has 95% of the performance for $20
>>729456359I actually just got a Keychron HE board for Christmas (K10 HE), alongside lighter switches to replace the standard medium ones. Feels really nice, especially since I got the actuation dialed in slightly earlier than stock.
>>729456910>Friend's keyboards keep dying>have had the same logitech keyboard since 2011 and it still works with barely any cleaning>got a second one in my closet just in case
>>729457290Phenomenal. Much better than the Logitech MX Vertical my work got for me. By far the best vertical mouse I've ever used. If you have long fingers though you might not like it. I have a huge palm and short sausage fingers tho so it works out for me well. >>729457419I've heard that but have yet to run into one. I don't play CS/Valorant tho. In any case you can run it at 4K or 1K polling rate if that happens.
The advances in mechanical keyboard tech barely maters VS the classic gamer set up of cherry red style switches. Basically any light pressure activation key set up is fine. Anything more and you're paying for feel or design, but that's fine too. IMO still better off spending peripheral upgrade dough on mice, skates and mouse pads. Even then, it will not turn gamers in the meh ranks into top tier nerds. One's keyboard isn't why so many of you are gold etc..
>>729456980I'm still so fucking pissed that 8bitdo passed up remapping on their numpad in favor of the stupid fucking meme calculator. A full numpad-sized mechanical macropad of that size at that price and build quality would've been a good shakeup for the market since other mechanical macropads are retardedly overpriced.
>>729457669both work the exact same way, you push a conductor down with your finger and it completes the circuit aKa a switch
I have a tmr board and it's not that big a deal, bought it because my old board started croaking It's not particularly revolutionary and I don't see much use out of the analogue switch gimmick I'll hold onto it until the unicorn of tmr, 2.4ghz wireless and dactyl materialises
>>729457878NTA, mouse you posted isn't $20 tho.
>>729457669I literally never had a mechanical key break on its own.I did break one on purpose though.
>>729458059Just get an epomaker brainlet. They're like 30 bucks frequently and as good as any other. Just pop in your own switches, like the objective best linears Aqua King v3s at 67g.
>>729457616RGB on everything but a keyboard is retarded.It's actually useful on a keyboard so you can see the keys in the dark.
>>729456619>Nigga it's a seat. You put your ass in it and sit down. As long as the chair doesn't break what more do you need? I've been using the same stool for years (since 2022)
>>729457932good to know, thank you. i have pretty average sized hands so i should be good, i just wish i could hold one and test it out before buying
>>729458248>he has to look at the keys
>>729457616>don't understand the obsession with RGBTQ+ lights on everything now>nowDid you just wake up from a 10 year long coma? My last PC was RGB out the ass for years until I upgraded a year ago and went to black/silver and wood. That is an extremely old fad.
I'm considering getting Corsair K55. Any opinion on these?This is my current keyboard. I'm beginning to need some light and I don't want anything overly expensive and loud.
Fuck off with your chinkshit plastic, buckling spring for life.
>>729456910This is my keyboard at work and I fucking hate the space bar. Otherwise, it's dece
>>729457553>PS 60% is a memeReally just depend on your set up. The entire point of the 60% is more desk space for mouse movement. They are great if you don't need a number pad or easy arrow keys but kind of trash if you do.
>>729458335>good to know, thank you. i have pretty average sized hands so i should be good, i just wish i could hold one and test it out before buyingYeah same. But just do like any good red blooded american and rent it from Amajew for 30 days then return it: https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Ergonomic-Bluetooth-Rechargeable-Programmable/dp/B0FRMS2F1P
I don't do a lot writing as part of my job, and i use a controller when i game as god intended. So i don't need an autistic keyboard
>>729457616it's extremely cheap to implement that's why, just turn them off if you don't want it
>>729458430good point, i need to start doing that more
>>729456359I like scissor switches the most.
>>729456910I prefer this one
>>729456359>Why haven't you made the switch over to hall effect or optical keyboards?Huh, didn't know it was a thing.Did SteelSeries release any?
Because my dream keyboard doesn't exist for some reason. All I'm asking for is:>mechanical, hall effect or optical switches (anything but rubber dome basically)>linear switches>Full-Size>USB hub (for mouse bluetooth receiver)>included soft wrist rest>some sort of lighting (doesn't even have to be RGB)>ISO layoutthere is literally not a single keyboard that ticks all of these boxes. logitech had the g513 but they don't sell that one anymore
Sorry I'm not buying any until there's capacitive keyboards
Only the best one to play The Typing of The Dead Overkill.
>>729458428You do need the arrow keys. They are non-negotiable for tasks as simple as fixing a typo or replacing a digit.
>>729458883Rebind caps lock to be a second fn key and set wasd to be arrows in the fn layer
>>729458680>must have USB HubThat's really old school. Not many mechanical keyboards have those anymore but stupidly easy to add if you have a plastic chassis. In any case Das Keyboard is still around and they are fullsize mechanical boards with USB hubs.
>>729457505can you turn an optical mouse upside down and use it as a trackball for oldass arcade games? huh?, can you?Actually you can, with a lot of effort
>>729458680>>729459008Don't forget the System76 Launch Heavy, though it is low profile mechanical, but it has a hi-speed USB hub as well.
>>729456910i hate the curve at the bottom and the big chunky space bar
>>729458680>mechanical, hall effect or optical switches (anything but rubber dome basically)>linear switches>Full-Size>USB hub (for mouse bluetooth receiver)>included soft wrist rest>some sort of lighting (doesn't even have to be RGB)Mate there’s tons of keyboards that fit your->ISO layoutNevermind. Just use English and stop with the euro stubbornness.
>>729459025you cant with ball mice either, the ball is way too small to comfortably move around with your fingers. also it's designed to sit loosely inside the mouse, so when it's upside down the ball can't be moved very easily, and when it's right side up the ball sort of drops down a bit and moves easier.I know this cause I tried doing exactly that when I was a little kid
>>729456359do they have tactile feedback? If no, then they suck
>>729459256>Just use EnglishI'm not gonna re-learn where all the special characters are on the keyboard after 30 years, sorry.
>>729459350the tactile feedback is the 0.1mm actuation
>tfw no cool Spaceship/Sci-fi/Mecha themed keyboard filled with buttons and cool gimmicky gizmosTHE FUTURE SUCKS!
>>729458883That's why I run two keyboards. The gamer nerd set up is a typical 60% mechanical. Then the daily is this kind of strange wireless low profile mechanical ASUS Falchion being it still has arrow keys..I picked it up as an open box for under $100 just because I wanted to light wireless keyboard.. I really like that at least with keyboards there is still every imaginable type of set up still out there for people.
>>729459354Is this bait?
>>729456359I'm getting annoyed by the click-clack of my keyboard.
>>729459569We need to evolve. Add Bluetooth pedals to function as Shift, P(edal)1, P2.
>>729459780Sorry, I guess I meant to say "German" layout, not ISO. I thought those two were kinda the same.
>>729456359>>Why haven't you made the switch over to hall effect or optical keyboards?whats their gimmick?
Oh I just bought the Casiotone CT-S410 to get more practice since I don't have a real piano in my home
rubber domes feel the best and are the quietest, i never fell for the mechanical meme
>>729456359>paying more than 20$ for a keyboardspending a bit more for a mouse I get, but there's no point in "gamer" keyboards
Recommend me some relatively quiet keyboard with macro keys
>>729459923>swap the z and y keycapwow that was hard
>>729460153Your garbage fails the double shift brown fox lazy dog test
>>729456359my weeb mech keyboard lasts 50+ days on batteryI've yet to see TMR or hall effect last anywhere close to it
i own 100%, 80% and 75%let me tell you 75% is not worth it, having those few extra keys makes the difference. for starters taking windowed screenshot is a huge page in the assi'm currently using 80% and it's a good balance. the ONLY time i needed a numpad was for some mod toggles, but i just updated the .ini file myself.
>>729460168
>>729460153This is an okay mindset. But If I use this bitch all day I want it to feel nice if I you know can afford it.>oh yeah I'll eat trash food and live in trash mansion since the money pile is more important than my health
>>72946025980% is perfection and i would never go below that as a maplestory chad
>>729459923Anon, are you serious right now?You can simply swap keycaps if you for some reason still don't touch type after so many years.Then you set keyboard layout in the OS for the one you are used to.
>>729459008>wanted to get das keyboard>only ships within USmeh
>>729456359>41% keyboardsLmao nope. No numpad no buy. How hard can it be to find something that's:>100% ISO layout>tactile mechanical/HE/optical switches>wired>plain white backlight?My current Keychron Q6 matches all those but it sure was a pain to find.>just get ANSI!!!>just get wireless!!!No.
>>729456359I have one optical Chinese keyboards, two Hall effect and I love them. I love how my $40 Chinese literally destroys my old $150 Corsair in every single way, the only real advantage being the aluminum body, but you can get aluminum Chinese ones as well so no big deal.
>>729460373>simply swap keycapsI don't want to Frankenstein my keyboard together, I want it usable out of the box. Not gonna buy some third party keycap set that's probably gonna look and feel worse.
>>729456359causse my 7G has been working well since 2012, and shows very little signs of wear, why should i spent money when i already have a keyboard that works? i'm not a FOMO-chasing zoomer.
>>729456359I haven't seen a split ergo keyboard in optical.
Having a non-100% keyboard is literally tranny tier
>>729456910I have this and it just works, based. Careful posting that thoughbeit, keyboardheads burn upon seeing a nump*d like vampires in sunlight.
>>729460565can I control mech this way?
I use a bluetooth keyboard I bought in Thailand for $5 and it works great
>>729460484Funny you say that because stock caps are often the cheapest crap.At this point you are simply making excuses.
>>729460259I ended up missing the + and - numpad keys 100%fags are right I'll be the better man and admit it meme formats were a fruitless pursuit
>all the ISOcucks ITT who will never be happyLol Lmao even
>>729460243who fucking cares, who the fuck double shiftscongrats on being mindbroken by agressive marketing, inventing problems no one ever had and selling you the solution for it>>729460297use it all day everyday, feels like any other keyboard, obv if you have some kind of disability you better buy stuff adapted to youbut it works perfectly fine for normal people
>>729456980This can't be real? Surely no one has bought this shit?
>>729458351Not all of us keep their hands on the keyboard all the time.
>>729460617You need this to mech.
>>729460710Congrats on being so miserable you think you don't need more than actual office trash
>>729456359Because this sounds better than optical or magneto trash
>>729460707>mfw when my post-soviet country uses ANSI for some reason
>>729456796Based
>>729456980>those prices>wirelessJust get a duckypad, it's cheaper and more customizable.
>>729456359I got my first mechanical this year.What benefits do hall effect and optical offer? Any recommendations of silent wireless 100% ones?
>>729460832congrats on being so miserable you need the dopamine high of spending money on useless shit to fill the void in your life
>>729456359>Optical keyboardGamers actually need to fucking neck themselves. The amount of voodoo thinking in this hobby is retarded.>omg it's so much faster than an electrical switch because it's light guys!The signal is immediately going into a regular fucking pcb, an electronic component. The transmission distance from the key to the pcb is like a fucking micrometer.The people selling you this shit are the same people who put gold plated connectors on fiber optic speaker cables to "enhance conductivity"
>>729460943They can never answer this simple question.
>>729460707i don't even use non-English keys, just like >>729459354 i'm not relearning where all the special characters are thoughseethe muttoid
>>729456359I tried an optical and i fucking hated it. The button press registers before you bottom out the key, and i could not stand it.
>>729460954Imagine being on your deathbed thinking back on how you chose the bare minimum because you were too contrarian to spend a hundred bucksBet you use a 60hz tn screen too lmao
>>729456359>tfw TMR with ceramic keycapsfeels good
>>729461074You do realize changing the switches to fit your taste is like half the reason people buy these things, right?
>>729460943I don't own either type but the keys are essentially unkillable, they won't get tarnished and impede electricity like mechanical keys. Optical also allows analog input which seems like a gimmick, it needs per-game support from what I understand.
>>729461074That's how regular mechanical keys work too.
>>729460153this keyboard doesn't have n-key rollover and you'll drop inputs in games where you use keyboard with both hands, for example tetris
>>729460943More durable due to no moving parts, faster response times, custom actuation threshold At least that's he, idk about optical since that's a razer patent that's overpriced and underperforms in benchmarks
>>729456359i don't know what any of these meani've been gaming on this thing for 15 years, boughtened for like $5 i think, works great
What are the best mechanical switches to replace my keyboard's failing OEM Gateron browns? Used to know a German who was autistically into this stuff but we had a falling-out.Looking for something that's good quality and with tactile feedback, don't really know much about switches otherwise.Any tips would be appreciated bros.
>>729461098>Imagine being on your deathbed thinking back on how you chose the bare minimum because you were too contrarian to spend a hundred bucksImagine being on your death bed and contemplating your purchases. What a waste of a fucking life.
>>729461027this is why I like anonimity you can make an ass of yourself like this unc and move on with your life without worrying that someone might use it against you in the future
>>729459871Clackclackclack is fun for a while but I eventually replaced it with a $15 membrane, I don't miss it.
>>729461470I agree, you're wasting your life by willingly using worse shit all because you got mind broken into contrarianism of hating improving your quality of lifeI didn't notice a refutation of using a shit monitor, did I strike a nerve?
not everyone with a mechanical keyboard is good at videogames, but anyone with a rubberdome (especially logitech) is guaranteed to be a shitter and a broke bitch. Usually third worlders too.>>729456980copepads for people who fell for the tenkeyless and 60% meme
>>729456359>this will finally let me leave gold elonoooooo it woooooooooon't~
Reminder: Shitposting is more fun if you have a nice keyboard.
>>729461217>I don't own either type but the keys are essentially unkillable, they won't get tarnished and impede electricity like mechanical keys. Who the fuck has ever worn down the contacts on their keyboard?This shit just doesn't happen.
>>729456359If the keys aren't flat the keyboard is trash.
>>729456359An average keyboard lasts forever, why would I replace it?
>>729460710having real bitch buttons instead of touch screen goop is (one of several reasons) why I got my car's engine rebuilt instead of buying a new one for basically the same price
>>729456796based I love my numpad
>>729456359Because the random ass azza keyboard i got for free like 15 years ago still works
>>729461813I could see it happening in some place with high humidity that increases corrosion, I'd be more concerned about my PC components in that situation though. Also, if you keep a kb for decades. I like my current kb so much that I could actually see the latter happening to me.
>>729461470Life is redacted's currency, spend yours well
>>729461449Speed silver, probably. All I know is that I really like having the actuation distance on my analog set to minimum and those have the shortest one, plus a little haptic bump. If I were to buy a keyboard today I'd go for those stuff like actuation profiles and joystick simulation are gimmicks.
>>729461632I'm not the guy you were replying to.You can be proud on your deathbed that you bought Rabinovich his third Rolls with your unnecessary spending.
>>729456359i've had the same ducky tkl for a decade
>>729459025I mean, if I wanted that Id just get a peripheral for it.
>>729461836Let me guess, this is your keyboard.
>>729456359I'm still using the office keyboard I swiped from High School 10 years ago
>>729462175So what do you spend your money on if you're on /v/ saying you don't want more than bare minimum?
>>729461542>this is why I like anonimityMust be a big change from your last subreddit.
>>729460259wtf i dont have these
The only reason I don't use a £10 keyboard is because I wanted some keycaps.I don't think I've ever touched a keyboard and ever thought "wow this is shit" or "wow this is amazing".
I'm using a keyboard from 2003 because my keyboard from the 90s finally started to die.
>>729462285>saying you don't want more than bare minimum?Who said that?Spending your money on the newest marketing gimmick that doesn't actually do anything differently from a functional product is how you end up not having enough money to own shit that actually matters.>uhh uhh it is better but I can't explain whyWe've been using hall effect and optical fiber for decades. it's not new, it's just a gimmick.
>>729456910It lacks aesthetic value.
>>729460259I got a 75% because I make heavy use of the F-Keys as a programmer. Pretty gud. I don't need more keys than that.My colleague has a 65% and always has to hit a combo to activate the F-Row. Fuck that.
>>729462735what kinda shitty board doesn't have an F-lock
>>729456467That's why I only bought one Corsair, because it didn't last worth a shit.
>>729461027Somehow, you managed to seem like an even bigger retard than those who buy this overpriced gaymer trash because you have absolutely no goddamn idea about what you're talking about.protip: it's not about the transmission speed at all
>>729462539But it's objectively functionally better unless you're a retarded reductionistBet you don't sleep on the floor or eat just rice and potatoes but you apply the poverty bare minimum standard to your hobby lmao
>>729462405i love cheap caps
>>729460259The same is true for 96%. There isn't a standardized layout for 96% or 75%, and it's always missing a random key like insert or end or page up.
>>729461098lmao like the other anon said if I'm on my deathbead thinking back on my purchases I'd actually put a bullet in my head and make it end quickerthe point is there is no QoL difference between a 20$ keyboard and a more expensive one, just because I chose the bare minimum for something that has no incidence in my life doesn't mean I don't shell out for stuff that DOES matterI stand by my point, there's literally no reason to pay more than 20$ for a keyboardif you were talking mouse, audio, or monitor yeah I'd agree with you (up to a certain point), the keyboard is the least essential peripheral you should waste money on
>>729459569Really though, why don't they sell keyboards like this anymore and just add mechanical/optical switches and stuff to it? All keyboards now just remove features as much as possible instead of letting you have it all like this
>>729463415Because we live in a Gay Minimalist World.You WILL buy the Pink Numpadless keyboard.You WILL buy the Iphone.
>>729459569i had a saitek cyborg for a while, thing was sweet
>>729463386Objectively wrong That's just the retarded line in the sand you drewYour office keyboard is the bottom of the fucking barrel on latency, functionality, durability and comfort
>>729462539>that doesn't actually do anything differently from a functional product I seriously hope you're not talking about analog keyboards. You can opine that they're not worth it, but features like Snap Tap and Rapid Trigger are considered cheats in competitive gayming for a reason. Gamepad mode is also something a keyboard with all-or-nothing inputs can't do, it works great for racing games.
>>729463415they do, there's tons of chink-ass keyboards just like those that bugmen and jeets buy up because they're 20 years behind the culture just like you
What small keyboard should I buy for my parents?
Why the FUCK did they stop making these? I loved this nigga.Do you know how hard it is to find a full sized keyboard with a fucking wrist rest these days? Not to mention the USB hub.
>>729462250>lazor
>>729463848I boughted the bluetooth logitech with the round keys a few years ago and and like it. You can pair it with three different devices and switch with fn+1,2,3 (for example pc, tv, ipad).
>>7294565314chan is owned by the goodsmile company of japan among several advertising firms. It absolutely is an advertising space.
>>729463718If the culture is throwing away usable features just for minimalism "aesthetic" and paying more for it at the same time then i feel fine about not following that
>>729456359None of those have numpads so I don't care.
>>729463608there's barely any difference between the bottom and the top of the barrel, except in price
Didn't people say the best keyboards were those wooting ones? What technology is that?
Because the king of keyboards has always been EC, and only fucking retards think that anything can surpass the rubber dome.
>>729464178The less keys a keyboard has the cheaper it is. Manufacturer's judaism hasn't reached the extreme of charging you more for a 60% keyboard vs the 100%.
The microsoft sidewinder x4 was the best keyboard to exist, it was like those regular ones everyone posts here, but added with anti-ghosting and other features.It was cheap, durable and all around the best.How come modern keyboards are so shit? They are so over the top expensive, now its even popular for them to be mutilated like americans What's a good replacement for the sidewinder?
I love the click clack of mechanical switches and the elegant tip tap of MacBooks, so unless they can match either of those feelings I don’t care. They’re probably better than membrane keyboards for sure
>>729456910very nice, now let's see paul allen's keyboard
>>729456359What is a compact keyboard with a numpad that doesn't cost over $100?
>>729464242>More than 10x the latency>No programmability >No n key rollover>No analog functionality and customisability
>Been using a Leopold for close to 10 years now>Clean it out every so often but no issues>No one talks about Leopolds
>>729460617that's just a lot of shouting
>>729464297Hall effectTMR is on par with those wootings but much cheaper
>>729463964>blackfacewtf man being racist is so 2005, go away unc
>>729456910Imagine all the software that has been written on this keyboard, like 90% of them.
>>729465402INDUBITABLY I MYSELF AM POWERING UP MY LIGHT AMPLIFICATION DEVICE
>>729464178lol nonwhite
