Are there games that focus on catholicism?
>>729459432Im first to the thread so I get to say Blasphemous, although it's more Catholic inspired than directly Catholic
xenoblade chronicles 2
>>729459594This
>>729459432LMAO
>>729459594This game is genuinely fantastic, also play the spanish dub.
>>729461162Elaborate
>>729459432The cult of Mary is not Catholocism, and I don't care what the vatican says to appease the herectical latinos. To think there was outrage when the current pope clarified that Mary is not a co-redeemer with Christ is absurd.
>>729464459>bore Jesus>somehow is less relevant than peeps mr J met in his lifeexplain
>>729465539Mary is worthy of reverence, as are all the apostles and saints, but not worship. It's only through Jesus that men can find salvation, but Mary cultists elevate her as though she's the female counterpart to Jesus who can indirectly (or directly) absolve them of sins, which is outright heresy.
>>729464459You've mistaken Mary (the mother of God) for santa muerte, stupid.
>>729464459>>729465539Mary was 14 when she birthed jesus yahweh is literally a pedo and so is joseph
>>729459432I hear FAITH the unholy trinity is good. Pokemon is also hilariously enough one of the few Vatican approved vidya, at least 20+ years ago it was
>>729459432ayo u sayin we wuz virgins n shiet?
>>729466256Joseph never touched her, and she was birthed by the holy spirit not by flesh. Also 14 sounds made up even if that weren't the case
>>729466398*she was concieved
>>729466043My priest explained it to me pretty succinctly. You pray to Jesus, you ASK Mary and the saints to pray for you. Do catholic churches in South America not teach this distinction? That's pretty unsettling, it's like I'm being told definitively that a whole continent is going to Hell because of a spelling mistake.
>>729466256But the age of consent is 13
what's the difference between catholocism and christianity
>>729466885Catholicism is Christianity, so no difference.
>>729466043all reverence belongs to God. dont take what is Gods and offer it to idols.>>729466752how can a dead person pray for you. this is just necromancy at this point. you dont even know the spirits you interact with.
>>729459432EU4 is the only one I could think of.
>>729466982>how can a dead person pray for youYou're practically denying the promise of heaven and the life in the world to come by talking like that.
>>729466885Read CS Lewis, he's about the last rational protestant.Basically no big difference except some theological things that only needs will argue over. For example I could say that in America, protestant churches are hardly Christian anymore because of how capitalistic they've become, ironic given how that's why martin Luther became the original reformist.
>>729467345*only nerds will fight over
>>729467282>You're practically denying the promise of heaven and the life in the world to come by talking like that.when does that happen? according to the Revelation at the second coming of Christ.did that happen yet? nowhat does that mean? everyone, alive and dead is waiting for his arrival. the dead are sleeping.necromancy and communing with spirits is punishable by death according to the ceremonial law. dont risk your salvation and rely on Jesus Christ alone, not "mary" or other saints the roman church has cooked up to appease pagans with their ancestor spirit worship.
>>729466398Joseph was an older man and Mary was at most 14 at the time.>"Also 14 sounds made up "Whole story is made up
>>729467498I suppose Lazarus in the Bosom of Abraham was just fanfiction, then? And perhaps the Holy Spirit has allowed for clerical misjudgment over centuries that has placed hundreds of millions of souls in jeopardy by positive action by Mother Church? There is death, then there is the particular judgment, and then finally at his return in glory there is the universal judgment. Before the end of history and the parousia, the saints are face-to-face with God. I pray that we both achieve this at the end.
>>729467498>necromancyMt 22:31-33
>>729467862>I suppose Lazarus in the Bosom of Abraham was just fanfiction, then?Jesus was btfo false teachings of rabbis that picked up eternal soul bullshit from pagan beliefs. its just a picture Jesus paints, not reality.he tells them, with your theory you are already condemned to fire while poor and starving you exploit are secure in Abraham. read in context. the rich man were the leaders, lazarus was the average jew they oppressed.pagans believed by having riches they are secure in the afterlife and have much wealth forever while the poor are servants forever.Jesus was countering that notion the elders picked up from pagans.#>And perhaps the Holy Spirit has allowed for clerical misjudgment over centuries that has placed hundreds of millions of souls in jeopardy by positive action by Mother Church?God always tested people if they sell out or stick to his Word, in the OT and the NT. if church leaders compromise to wordly teachings instead of God that bad for them, the roman church in particular.>There is death, then there is the particular judgment, and then finally at his return in glory there is the universal judgment. Before the end of history and the parousia, the saints are face-to-face with God. I pray that we both achieve this at the end.total bullshit. exactly what the roman church preaches to appease and whore itself out to all kinds of pagan teachings over the world.you die, you sleep, you dont experience anything, you are raised once the Lord returns, then judgement.its that simple. no need to create mystery teachings about that straight forward process.
>>729468018the pharisees believed that they are saved by being descendants of Abraham.what did Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have in common? all had faith in God. you are saved by faith, not because of your lineage.as nothing to do with the fact that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are already alive in heaven, they are simply secure because of their faith.
Can you retards actually focus on the topic?
Go back to /his/ you gayass losers or talk about the vidyer
>>729468448>>729468659So, let me get this straight, in your version of what Christ taught:>the soul is not immortal>we do not face judgment at our deaths, with the wicked going to Hell and the righteous to be purified and/or gone to Heaven>the Holy Spirit allowed the faithful to be deceived and left it up to some arbitrary metrics, rather than reasoned mercy, that people should arrive at truth, goodness, and beautyI'm afraid I can't do anything besides point out where this makes no sense as an argument if you'll say that the soul is not immortal and that the parable of Lazarus and the rich man is not reflective of revelatory truth.
>>729466982>how can a dead person pray for you.The soul does not die, it is eternal. Only Jesus in Heaven has an eternal corporal form, but when he returns he will incarnate all the believers into new bodies. This is Bible 101 bro.
>>729459432dmc 4
>>729459432Would a Catholic video game have a guilt mechanic? Like the more wrong choices you make, the more guilt you build up which increases the chances of random negative events happening and decreases your stats.
How can you guys believe in the Trinity when it's explicitly from the Nicean council and not present in the Bible unless you squint and justify it
>>729459432Like the first anon said, Blasphemous is the best option and the only one you'll get since these niggers can't stop their reddit-tier sperging
>>729468841>>the soul is not immortalit is not according to Jesus.Matthew 10 28And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.>we do not face judgment at our deathsyou face judgement when Jesus Christ returns. Revelation makes that clear. the wicked are burned up (not eternal hell) and the righteous have the righteousness of Jesus given to them by faith in life, you are not purified after death.>>the Holy Spirit allowed the faithful to be deceived and left it up to some arbitrary metricsfaith saves you. if you have faith in Jesus Christ you are already secure. the Holy Spirit is God, who knows the heart of men. there are wicked people who call themselves christians but are not, and there are people who put their faith in Jesus Christ alone and his atoning death for our sins.>>729468898>The soul does not die, it is eternalnot according to Jesus.Revelation 2014 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
>>729468979>how can you believe in the Trinity when literally Jesus Himself talked about it, that He and The Father are one and the same and that after His resurrection He talked about the Holy Spirit, which is also God, being sent as His helper to guide those who believe in HimYeah, bro... How could they believe what God Himself told them, who cannot lie and everything that He says is the truth and truth alone... crazy.
>>729459432Kingdom Come Deliverance.
>>729468979the trinity comes from the OT, friend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0qBujuq7Pk
>>729469196>if you have faith in Jesus Christ you are already secureJas 2:19I strongly suggest you pray and listen with humility to some good Catholic apologists. They will have better answers for you than I can manage. If, indeed, you bend yourself to God then you will find your way to Christ's Church.
>>729468659Jesus Christ dead on a stick, no one cares about your Jewish fairy tales. Catholics ARE pagan. The most of us who are actually initiated and revealed at least. The Church of Rome is a direct continuation of the imperial cult with Jewish figures replacing other absorbed and indigenous deities. There exists only the monad and the monad is all. All is divine, all is sacred. Your books written by men missing chromosomes will not reveal knowledge like personal dialogue and communion with the monad. Christ is just a rebranded sol invictus with an Apollo-Dionysus aggregation to fulfill the needs of ancient philosophers, god is Jupiter (or Godan, where the name comes from). Why do you think HE is always portrayed with a beard sitting on a cloud, lol. The Holy Mother is just Cybele. No elaboration needed. St Michael is hermes, St. George is based on early heroes and dragon slayers. If you actually studied and meditated and communed directly with god you wouldn’t be such weirdo freaks who take orders from sexless losers or literal demonic pedofiles (like the pope). Even the concept of the Holy Church is just the cult of Roma. In our order we know of the hermetic teachings, we follow the path of Boethius. We have the secrets of the order of the temple. We keep alive the traditions of strength, honour, and duty. We know that Crom is just as real as Jesus because they are archetypes that have always existed. Fucking retards. Also, I guess pentiment is a good “catholic” game but it’s really just an overhyped graphic novel with no actual gameplay and no true story. Blasphemous is probably the closest to actual hidden theology with the disgusting demiurge.
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>>729459432Catholicism in games doesn't really exist in games outside of what, Blasphemous and Dragon Quest being inspired by it?There's Black Book but that's Orthodoxy and is about pagan Russia being introduced to Christianity and trying to wrap their head around accepting that concept. The MC and her teacher (Both witches) are literally afraid of damnation for their soul because they're both Christians but have to partake in selling their souls to a pagan demon for power to fight demons. This leads to them having discussions about how they pray God will save their soul even though they're partaking in such heinous things to save people.
>>729469332we could open the whole can of election and predestination here but I'd rather not.demons have faith because they are part angel, part human, evil spirits. even satan, a fallen angel, has faith.I dont need some catholic rhetoric that needs to justify their man of sin at the top to teach me doctrine. you have one teacher that is the Christ, the Holy Spirits that reminds you of what is written and thats it.if you put a man between you and God nothing good can come from it. if you think you are saved because you are part of a particular denomination and that you have to partake in the eucharist to maintain your salvation what good does your faith do?
>>729469364>gnostic garbage on the rise again
>>729469665I can't do anything more then, but I do feel it necessary to reply to this part.>and that you have to partake in the eucharistChrist himself says that it's required in the discourse of the Bread of Life in John 6. No, it isn't just symbol. No, it isn't just a story. He gave a hard teaching and was left with only 12 followers for it. The Eucharist is necessary. God willing, you'll find it in yourself to chance listening to someone of better learning than me and be among the 12, rather than the multitude that turned and left. Amen, have a blessed day, brother.
>>729469550Oh yeah, there's also Pentiment, FAITH, and Kingdom Come Deliverance (The first one at least) which focuses on medieval Christianity. If you really wanted you could argue Chronicles of Narnia but the games aren't as overt as the book. Wasn't Scorn also tangentially related to Christianity or am I thinking of Agony?
>>729469550>have to partake in selling their souls to a pagan demon for power to fight demonsThat's really not how faith works though.You are already given power and authority by God in Jesus's name to bound and cast out demons by simply just commanding them out in the name of Jesus. You really don't need any more weird compromises and convoluted stuff like that combat demons. Anything that tries to bring up an opposite idea to that is basically a lie meant to deceit and make believers think they don't actually have the power God promised and already bestowed upon them.
>>729469943That is the premise of the game. It's not trying to be accurate to the Bible, it's just trying to bring up the time period's shift in religions and have the people question what they're doing is right even though they believe in Christ. If I remember right later on in the game God actually helps the MC out but I haven't played it personally I just know the basics of it.
>>729469731Nah thats just an atheist, they tend to hide behind other religions they deem "non-problematic". Gnostics like Jesus Christ, actually almost all major religions like him in some capacity other than Jews and Atheists.
>>729469927>Christ himself says that it's required in the discourse of the Bread of Life in John 6Jesus is the bread, read the whole chapter if you want to quote John 6.>“Do you take offense at this? 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) 65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”there again is the notion of preelection and that the Father grants you to come to Jesus in faith.>He gave a hard teaching and was left with only 12 followers for it.yeah, because he was weeding out the disciples who would not follow him all the way.>The Eucharist is necessary.no, its a pagan blood sacrifice. you trample on the blood of Jesus since you claim his atoning sacrifice for you on the cross where he gave is blood and flesh for you was not enough. you claim its his real blood and real flesh, but when were the disciples ever eating the real blood and flesh of Jesus? Never!drop these blasphemous blood sacrifice teachings. all sacrifices have been done away with, you just continue the old testament system to no effect.
>>729470150no, gnostics teach a corrupted and erroneous doctrine that overlaps with some teachings of the bible but is inherently false.t. former gnostic
>>729470067Fait enough that it's the game's premise to go about telling the story like that. It's just that the way they go about doing it will just confuse things, especially for someone who might be playing the game without any actual grasp on how Christianity works then they might have weird ideas like that linger in their head later in the future that they can "compromise" with evil or demons or whatever.
>>729467713>one of the most documented men of antiquity of all time>made upLol. Lmao even.
>>729459432inb4 it's about protestants or somethinghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2094550/Saga_of_Sins/
>>729459594This game took the Zanzibart meme of non-sensical lore that just sounds cool, and cranked it up to 11. It's just random shit thrown in there to sound mysterious. And the gameplay is bad as well.
>>729459432Everytime you see selfless acts on love in your videogame stories, humility, forgiveness, redemption, remorse, bravery, amongst many of those other virtues, you're looking at a Christian work in it's roots. There's a reason Tolkien chose not to show any religious rites or details on Lord of the Rings, it's something you can tell in it's message and the actions of it's characters. Hope this finds you well, anon, and God bless you. Merry Christmas.
>>729463554mostly due to the main character being called Rex, he dies and is resurrected by one part of the trinity to save the dying world from a false prophet, the game is full of christian and catholic imagery, pyra core crystal is a cross, she gets in a pose very similar to the cross when she's about to be killed, the Artificial intelligence meant to control the world is called the trinity processor and it's components are Ontos, Logos and Pneuma (pretty much the divine trinity) etc.I wouldn't say the game is about religion but its heavily based on it, pretty cool
