>annoying>loud>unironically low IQ>"muh shitty adults">is the reason the phantom thieves were discoveredI hate this retard like you wouldn't believe.
Both junpei and yosuke mog him to hell.
>>729463198he's the least shit character besides Yusuke. Futaba is le hacker imouto special snowflake meme spouting garbage. Ann is a hypocritical thought police that objectifies herself and then turns around and calls you evil for... objectifying her in your mind. Don't even get me started on M*koto
Person 5 was never good
>>729463774frenfren was the P5 of anime
>>729463198Fuck off cat, Ryuji is a bro.
>>729463198Davvero??
>>729463198I don't even know what game, but I bet they purposefully made the blonde, Aryan man dumb and annoying, and the black indigenous immigrant the smart and likable ones
>>729463198yea but he's fuckable so it's okay
>>729463198>so mad at someone shitting on Morgana you start a whole new thread>>729460493
>>729465463Ann...
>>729463198I like JP Ryuji
I hate the writing in this game so much>literally anything important happens>one character imediatelly narrates everything that just happened and explains it to you like youre retarded>another character tells you what it means and how you should feel about it>then finally they tell you exactly how to deal with it >20 minutes later, someone (probably the fucking cat) will interrupt you to remind you of the thing that happened and explain it to you again, just in case>after you deal with it they'll take a minute to mention how cool and badass and amazing and super smart you are for doing itI swear you could shave 10 hours off from this game by just condensing the repetitive dialogue
>>729463198I like Ryuuji because he is the only cast member of the Phantom Thieves that acts like a real teenager.
>>729463198t. Morgana You are just a cat. A cat can be replaced
>>729466336The average Persona fan is so retarded that even all of that isn't enough.
>>729463198you can use the "first male friend" party member in the modern persona games as a barometer for just how retarded japanese otaku culture has become in the last 20 years>junpeia gag character but he gives as much as he gets from yukari, gets jealous of the main character as anyone would when you realize you're mediocre at the one thing you're any good at, but in the end gets over his bullshit, gets a GF and ends up being the voice of reason during the answer>youskecan be a competent and cool guy but spends most of the game simping for a dead girl who hated him and getting literally or metaphorically getting kicked in the nuts because we have to make sure (you) narukami is the coolest guy in the universe for all the people who use these games to enjoy an idealized high school life as chad. is directly responsible for the bad ending if you listen to what he says at the wrong time>ryujieven when he almost sacrifices his life to save everyone, he's still shit on. does nothing the entire rest of the game besides say stupid things so other characters can look smart correcting him. game plays off "I got crippled for life by a sociopath and will never be able to do what I wanted to the level I wanted again" as something with equal gravitas as "this girl doesn't want to fuck me because I'm a monster cat and also don't know how to talk to girls" in terms of reasons to act like a douchebag sometimes because east asian fans will literally boycot the game if male characters besides the self insert do anythingTLDR: in the same way pitbulls have degenerated over years of breeding for hyper specific traits, the male friends in jrpgs have degenerated over years of pandering to hyper specific otaku tastes/ntr concerns
>>729465463this
Morgana the cat by the bar toasting to the good life ryuji that faggot ass nigga tryna pull him back right
>>729463673P5 was one of those games where the characters I liked spending time with were largely not party members (Sojiro, Kawakami, Yoshida, Iwai)
>>729466456What about Ann? Or Haru?
>>729467182Unc recognize Unc.
>>729466527He was. By an owl.https://youtu.be/RY_8IlLKiM4?si=XmOXWLJcsGbaZyWA
>>729463673Wow, a bitter nerd who hates women! What a shock.
>Play P3>Bounce off of it>Play P4>Bounce off of it>Play P2>Play through to the end>Play P5>Play through to the end and enjoyed itmuh small town vibes am I right?
>>729466336just wait until you play p4 and get naoto
>>729465340>Aryan manHe's a Japanese delinquent that dyes his hair blond, retard.
>>729466705>breaks the trend
>>729463198I SURE AM GLAD NOBODY KNOWS WE'RE THE PHANTOM THIEVES
>>729463198Entire series humiliated, abused, and executed by Expedition 33. P6 is going to launch to a Metacritic in the low 80s and sell a meager amount of copies now that this genre has been exposed. The Japanese race is defeated by its western betters yet again.
>>729467980Not sure why I never felt Stohl fit that archetype. He IS the first male friend after all but it feels weird to put him in the same category as Junpei and the others.
>>729468019kek
>>729467980this is b/c they didn't make metaphor to pander to otaku, they made it to pander to political activists. every character in this game is just>wow, thing that also happens in real life but in a completely different context is really bad, manor typical haha funny japanese humor stuff
>>729468194the closest metaphor comes to a flanderized gag character is hulkenberg and even she gets redeemed by becoming the primary pathos once the plot refocuses on the prince near the end
>>729468080But in persona you can romance under age girls. Can’t do that in e33!
>>729466705They really should have done what they did with Junpei and given Ryuji a GF that doesnt have an SL with the player. But that'd be something nice happening to Ryuji.
>>729463774Frieren is fucking garbage thoughbeit
>>729463198annoying cat paws typed this
>>729466336A lot of this just comes down to Japanese sentence and dialogue structure, same deal with Kojima games. It's a vastly inferior language to English when it comes to subtlety or nuance
>>729463673Ann doesn’t really seem to give a fuck. She wants to be seen as more than a bimbo but I don’t recall her ever being actively upset at being desired.
>>729463673
>>729465340The only black people in P5 are faceless background npcs you see maybe one or two of while walking around the city. I'm sure that will change for P6 though.
>>729466336The fast forward button is a godsend. Someone on the team knew.
>>729468706>subtext or nuance >i’mcommander and I’m abloobloobloo bloo sad over some nothing kid who got his ass zapped abloobloooblooo
>>729466336>>729468932nooo im getting too much game in my game...
>>729469019If it was NEW material I wouldn’t mind. I don’t need the metaverse or our plans explained to me five times over and a hundred flashbacks.
why do people with no life experiences genuinely think a teenager (who's seen as a punk) would be taken seriously if overheard saying he was part of a mythical criminal group by regular people?
>>729463456People give Yosuke so much shit because he hates gays or whatever but he's basically the main character and the actual leader of the investigation team. He's the one who wants to save people the most and will even reprimand the protag for being an idiot if they joke about it. Even when Naoto joins toward the end she basically just repeats stuff Yosuke says with more words.
>>729469121Why do normalfags pretend to have valued opinions?
>>729469194monkeys don't lead, youskefag
>>729466336>get a group chat message>it's the rest of the party worrying about the upcoming deadline and repeating how it's getting close>complete the palace>you still get the texts, but now it's about them wondering if the change of heart worked for the third time in a row
>>729469121The plot ignores it for good reason, but if I remember my continuity right that branch's Tokyo has a pretty high number of people swimming around aware of supernatural phenomena.
>>729465340The Japanese associate blonde hair with delinquency and also the literal Devil. Even dying your naturally black hair brown is considered deviant there and you can't even be hired at some jobs or can get in trouble at school. I want to say that's fucking retarded but look what the rainbow hairs have done to us here in the West, maybe they're onto something.
>>729465463
does anyone know if i need ng+ to get all steam achievements?and if it's possible to reach rank10/fuck (fade to black with) all the girls before the infamous chocolate scene?
>>729469194>People give Yosuke so much shit because he hates gaysHe's based in my book.
FOR REAL
>>729467980Strohl is a Chad albeit. Genuinely charming character from beginning to end
>>729466336>>729468932Fucking game needs a "Skip everything" button.
>>729463198Fuck off, Morgana.>>729465463Fuck off, Ann.
>>729470461There's also the inverse, though. Schools forced students to dye their hair black, even if it's their natural hair colour, even if they're not foreign and are 100% ethnic yayoi with just the rare exception of having light(er) hair colour genetics.
>>729471207Yes and yes
>>729463198Ryuji was just too forced in everything. Being loud or low IQ and all that wasn't really a problem in and of itself. The "somethin', anythin', thinkin'" way of talking was so contrived. I can't blame the VA, they had to do it how he was instructed, and it could have been worse, given the shitty "voice direction". His exaggerated posture. The "Japanese humor". Damn, it was just so fucking bad.
>>729468886you can bet my ass she doesn't say "sex appeal" in Japanese. You just know it;'s another situation of westernt ransaltors projecting their fallout/boys amazon netflix tendencies on something pure and wholesome.
it's kind of amusing knowing that his english VA is basically just him irl.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQWNBg7MHFw
>>729473365Mishima is a 1/10
>Persona 6 is modern Japan again>goes full jeetinfestation and makes major characters brown immigrantsHow mad /v/ would be
>>729473457God dubs are so shit. What a waste of resources on an unnecessary, lesser alternative
>>729473532What western markets want is irrelevant and not even a valued factor. There’s nothing to even presumably get mad at because the core audience in Japan would have already rioted
>>729473637Good. No one should listen to the western Persona fanbase.
>>729466336*franchise since 3
>>729473532Why would anyone indulge in your mentally ill fantasies?
>>729473532Would kill Atlus games discussion here, so good
Most of the Persona fanbase has transitioned, female MC for P6 makes perfect sense.
>>729463198I want to FUCK Ryuji.
why do /v/etards ship ann with ryuji? she can get so much better that that loudmouth retard
>>729463198trvke people glazing him out themselves as dubfags, they like him simply because he has a miscasted dub VA
>>729466336It all comes down to the calendar system.They want Persona to be a high school simulator where you literally live out each day of the year.The problem is there isn't enough quality content to justify that, so they shove in a bunch of filler to pad things out. So that's why so much of the story feels repetitive and redundant.
>>729469194Yosuke was a good filter because if you never had that friend that always said the most obnoxious shit yet was always based, you couldn't like his character
>>729466705>east asian fans will literally boycot the game if male characters besides the self insert do anythingyep this is what it comes down toit's not just that the writing has gotten worse, it's that otakus have become absolutely insane and will send death threats if you don't pander to them in exactly the right waythis isn't just a Japan thing, it's also in China and South Korea
>>729472398>>729471207You can actually 100% steam achievements in one run but you need to know what you're doing
>>729474628Because it was cause you the most suffering cat
>>729469194they should have kept Yosuke as a closet case instead of cutting it
>>729463198No, the reason why phantom thieves were discovered is because they were all texting and openly talking about PT shit via phone and in public. Then Makoto pointed out that they were being retarded and they praised her incessantly for being smart for something that was common sense. Then they proceeded to keep texting about PT shit, including Makoto, without any sort of attempt to be discreet or use coded language. Then they got ebin haxxor'd by Futaba, giving them concrete proof that texting about PT shit was retarded. Then, after Futaba joined they STILL KEPT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT PT SHIT OVER FUCKING TEXT WHEN THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT WAS OPENLY HUNTING THEM.All the PTs were fucking retarded. The other notable mark was when Morgana was crying over feeling useless. Literally nobody on the team tried to point out that even with Futaba and everyone getting experience in metaverse shit, he was still contributing the most to the team because he was momentos travel and could place calling cards better than anyone because nobody expected a fucking cat to be a PT. 2 skills literally only he could do, on top of fighting. The entire arc of Morgana's insecurity was a poorly aped Junpei and made zero sense and was perpetuated by the rest of the team being conveniently retarded and not say anything.Persona 5 is not well written.
>>729474895Don't you only unlock some personas on NG+ preventing you from 100%ing the compendium?
>>729475460royal cheevos are piss easy, there's no achievement for 100% compendium
Objective best P5 Vanilla party
>>729469194Yosuke gets points docketed for being way too Fujo coded
>>729476775For me, it's Ann, Ryuji, and Haru.
>>729469194been saying this for yearswho has everybody's phone number?who decides where everyone meets up?who is the first person to call you?Yosuke is the main character and Rise would have had a crush on him if the game made sense
>>729463198>is the reason the phantom thieves were discoveredWhy do people blame him for this? None of the characters were good at hiding that. Remember when they're in the sushi restaurant and all of them are loudly talking about being the Phatom Thieves while at least three other people are within arm's length of them?
