Why is it like this?
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>>729470186You can be competitive and have fun without having to resort to toxicity. I think a lot of the funfags are very passive players who don't care whether they win or lose and as a result, they feel their experience is somehow deterred.
>>729470186I remember the first time I played online, it was the og Battlefront 2 when I was like 12 years old. I was playing against this dude and his friends who killed me five times in a row, and the second I finally got a kill they all kicked me for hacking. Pretty well set up why I never played online again.
>>729470186fixedcasuals and devs pandering to casuals have ruined gaming worse than any woke garbage ever did and its been going on for much longer
>>729470570I will never forgive you degenerates for ruining the RTS genre. Nothing you say matters. Kys.
>>729470186fun is a buzzword, you should play to win
>>729470570grow the fuck up and find an actual hobby or literally anything at all to do in life to get your sense of worth and achievements out of and stop ruining everyone's enjoyment out there you humongous faggot.
competitive players draw far more fun from games than casual players. casuals are just fun leeches desu
>>729470925Stop playing competitive games and expecting to be babied by the devs because you suck.
>>729470886God saw everything and will ultimately judge you for that, so don't think you got away scot-free. You will one day have to answer for that and everything else that you have done or said in life that you believe you got away with.
>>729470186>wahhh why won't you let me win during the 20 minutes I play a week!?
>>729471016This, they need to drag everyone else down because they're unable to compete.
>>729471062well he still remembers it, so surely he feels a little guilty about it, even if the kid deserved it.no one actively WANTS to do shit like that
>>729471048>Stop playing competitive games and expecting to be babiedtakeyourownadvice
>>729471295Retarded nigger
>>729471368You don't sign your posts here senpai
>>729471295>play a game>be good at said gamevs>play game>be shit>cry to devs to make the game worse for literally everyone who actually plays the gameKys, subhuman casual.
>>729471496>>be good at said game*that I want a medal forbe honest anon that's what you want out of this: some recognition
>>729470186I play for fun. I don't do meta, I don't care about my team winning, I don't care about what strategy is best, nor do I care about team compilation. If I don't have fun in a game, I don't play that game. I play for myself and only myself, and if it's a single player game, I play how I wish to play. If I am playing a multiplayer shooter game, I play what weapons I want to play. If I am playing a hero shooter, I will play a character I want to play and nothing else, despite the cries of my teammates. If we lose, I had fun, and if we win, I still have fun. If I am not having fun, then I do not play. I don't care about if the company tried to market to competitive players, meta maxers, or whatever, I will play a game for fun and fun alone. If what I play is not meta, I do not care because I am having fun. If a game is beaten, then I beat it because it was fun. If it has overpowered weapons, I will use them if it is fun, and if they have completely useless weapons, I will use them still if they are fun to use. I do not care about optimizing, nor do I care about being fast or slow. I play the speed and make characters to best suit my own play style to. Have. Fun. Good luck ever trying to get me to do something else, or get me mad, for I only play for myself, and to have fun. If I don't have fun, then I don't play. Simple as that.
>another "I suck at games and I'm mad at people better than me" threadYou make this shit like every day. Get new material, retard.
>>729471604Weird projection, I actually have fun playing the game and being good at it. Getting better is actually enjoyable, not that you'd know being a failure at life.
>>729470186stop playing ranked if you don't want to climb retard
>>729470186I honesty don't get competitive players in lower ranks, if you can't get to high enough rank that filter casuals then maybe you are in right company.
>>729470186>when I win: sorry, noobs, i'm just that good :)>when I lose: toxic overcompetitive sweatlords :(
>>729470186In my experience it's the exact opposite. Most competitive players who aren't the bottom rung shitters trying to differentiate themselves from casuals way too hard don't really give a shit either way about the casuals (unless devs start catering to the casuals). Meanwhile, casuals bitch and moan about fucking everything slightly meta and will swear totally up and down they don't care about winning like the meta players while bitching about how the meta is cheap, players are cheap, etc. Funny how that complaint only comes up when they are losing. If a game is unfun when it is competitive, it's a shit game, pure and simple.
>>729470186Who buys the skins and battlepasses? Playing multiplayer games that are designed to be treated like jobs and extract as much cash from you as possible is for goycattle.
>>729472174you're a pedophile
>>729470186It's the other way around most of the time. Casuals think they're entitled to win any game they play
>>729470186People that play for fun tend to make fun of and complain about competitive players. It's a tale as old as time:>You're a tryhard>That's cheap>Stop using meta>This is ruining the communityblah blah blah. Whole lotta hate for people that claim to "play for fun". Just fuck out the competitive modes, retard, you aren't owed wins just for playing.
>>729472538I can't wait for this word to lose any meaning. Keep throwing it around. Accelerate it.
>>729470186I like toxic, overcompetitive retards because you can get them to throw an entire match if you type ?
>Never plays ""competitive games"" unless it's a team game with teammates to blame whenever they loseTime to face facts.
>I LOVE GATEKEEPING TOURISTS BUT NEVER EVER EVER GATEKEEP ME!!!
>>729470186A lot of competitive players are using vidya as a coping mechanism to make themselves feel better about themselves.So when they fail, or their teammates suck, they blow a gasket and start slinging shit around like massive fucking faggots to protect their egos.
>>729470570this is literally pokemon
I don't want to put in effort or take responsibility for playing poorly, but you need to let me win!
>>729472817Already did. Being called "pedophile" and/or "brown" in 2025 is like being called a cuck in 2015.
>Be someone who is really good at fighting games>Enjoy picking up new fighting games and messing around to figure out how they work>Pick a new fighting game and not even trying to win, just having fun figuring out the moves>Play against someone else>Inevitably be called a "Sweat" or "Tryhard" or "Compfag" despite the fact that I'm just playing for fun, because I could figure out some basic combo in 5 seconds from experienceI think a lot of people don't realize that when you're good, you don't need to "Try hard" or "Sweat" to be better than a huge number of players without even trying. The idea that these better players are sweating in their seats to try and win is just pure coping.Like imagine if you tried to race against an olympic runner. They would probably beat you just doing what they consider a "Casual jog for fun". At a certain point it becomes more difficult to try and lose than to try and win when you're playing against people worse than you.
>>729473448>is like being called a cuck in 2015.Except it did and still does cause melties, because usually it's applied surgically to actual or spiritual cucks.
>>729473343>i should be able to shit up everyone else game with my horrible play because... I just should, okay!?At least in pickup sports they can just not pick youLearn to play
>>729470186Because you get people who are trying to queue for comp. or a comp. mode doesn't exist so both players get put together. Generally at that point the competitive ones bicker because nobody is trying.But there is also bitches among people who don't take the game itself seriously. Doesn't really matter what group it is, someone's gonna be a dumbass about something.
>>729470186My version of playing for fun is being the guy on the right. Who's going to tell me I'm wrong, the losers on the other team?
>>729470186Give me back dedicated servers!Until then get fucked casual scum.
>>729470186This really depends on the game. By the way, awful thread OP. I rarely play competitive games but when I do I try to be as good as I can at them. If you're playing a competitive game casually just to relax I think maybe you should find a different type of game to play, something more single player or co-op instead.That said its not impossible to still be a casual in a competitive game but you can't let yourself get mad if you keep losing, and if you do get mad you have to ask yourself why and interrogate what you're really looking for out of said game. That isn't to say that matchmaking services in games shouldn't be improved though.
>my face when I play casually for fun and actively fuck with and troll comp fags just for the love of the game
>>729473494It truly sucks to be good enough at fgs to stomp all your friends and the average player but not good enough to be top 1 percentile player. Legacy skill is a fucking curse.
>>729476661The shitty part of fgs is in order to be actually good you have to dedicate time that could be used actually getting pussy and money. A lot of good players have wasted so much of their life to leaning frame and shit that they are already damn near 40 and used up half of their life. I always grew knowing video games are entertainment not worth any real time.
Now I get why billionaires hate normal people who just want to live for fun.
>>729477078They are just upset that they have all the money in the world and still have to be fake sociopathic retards. Like those people have fuck you money and they still have overlord assholes to lick holy kek
Twitch pandering ruined shooters and fighters.
>>729470186People want to feel strong so they tend to pick on those weaker than them
>>729470186Back in the day, we used to have zones, territories you could say.Now, the devs decided to mix the entire jungle together. It's obvious that the Lion is going to feast on the Zebra, sometimes just for fun not even to eat them or anything.With proper, dedicated servers, we can attempt to try and keep casuals on their habitat and comps on theirs. This way the population of casuals won't go extinct, even if a comp sneaks into their habitat here and there.
>>729477438Comp Groups are gonna pub stomp anyway. It’s pointless to have segregated servers because it doesn’t solve anything other than to have everyone have less people to play with. Both sides needs nuts and just play the game with everyone.
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>>729470186turbo casuals just want to play with their fellow retards in the shallow end and high skill players dont want to play at their own skill level because its stressful and more fun to just dunk on said retards by going 100-1 on them
>>729470186It's been like this for a long time. It there's a competitive format, casuals usually stay out. If there's a casual format, compfags will go in there and make it as competitive as possible. It happened to EDH, and will happen to any casual format for any game. It's why every game type is actually deathmatch in a mask.
Being toxic and being competitive are two very different things, i don't know why is this association being made between the two. Yes a player can be both competitive and toxic, but they can also be just one of them.There's nothing wrong with being competitive, trying your best and playing to win, there's nothing toxic about that.Toxic players however should all die. I absolutely detest any player who is toxic to others in online games.
>>729470186Bullying children is fun
>>729476962If you think anyone on Earth ever decided "no I am not going to have sex today I am going to memorize this frame data chart" you have the most crippling mental problems of all. There's not even any correlation in skill between the players that are ronery losers and the ones with wives either.
>>729477898Theres a reason fgs don’t make mass commercial sales. The community on all sides are absolutely worthless and there is no unity in building the community into something healthy. It is 90% of insecure faggots who are using a video game to feel powerful and 10% people who don’t even give a shit about the game, they just bought it because fuck why not. I’ve done that for 6 mortal Kombat games and have less than 40 hours in all of them. Its the communities fault their genre fails and anything besides small niche communities.
>>729470186They are both people that play for fun
Skill stratification is inevitable. Toxicity is just being a piece of shit though.
>>729479449>Mortal Kombatlmao
>>729479509And it’s the single most successful selling fighting game of all time…
>>729479623Yes it's the game that has 1/10th as many players as another game of the same age and sales, perhaps there is something to be learned in those player retention statistics.
>WAAAH WHY WON'T YOU JUST LET ME WIN!!!!Maybe you should try a little harder to defeat me or xX666PussySlayer666Xx who has more game time than you, me and your mom combined
>>729470186Someone needs to add a giga chad (me) harassing and dominating the meta faggot with the most shit tier stuff available. Nothing is better than devastating and putting meta slop netdecking, copy paste builds, min maxing losers in their place with the most dogshit items in the game with pure skill and guile alone. They suck and they know they suck which is why they choose the crutches.
>>729479786You're not funny or cute, you butt hurt dimwit! :3
>>729479449I haven’t played one worthwhile since SCII. Most are too feature gimped now to bother buying. Online shit lags too much to be worthwhile.
>>729479776Player retention means nothing when you cannot gain a larger demographic and game after game is the exact same players stagnating the growth of the game as a whole. MK has grown infinitely than sf tekken and whatever else. Like it or not sales will always be more important that who actually stays and plays the game.
>>729470186You gotta keep 'em separated.Like the latest fashion,Like a viral disease,Toxic people spoil the games,And they do it with the greatest of ease...
>>729480346A major problem is poor balancing. Devs have more stat tracking tools than ever.
>>729470186What people don't seem to get isn't that the problem is there are people who are really good at the game who take it seriously, the problem is that the majority of players take it seriously at all levels. Because of the rise of gaming as a career and the availability of META gaming information people who don't actually want to put in a bunch of time and work are using minmaxxed gear and strategies in low level play without ever getting good. You can see games that this actually killed outright like CoD which has boiled down into lobbies where everyone uses one of a handful of strategies and guns. The epitome of this killing fun was WoW classic launch where people straight up ruined their own fun for no reason.
Holy shit this thread is pathetic https://steamdb.info/charts/?tagid=1743
>>729470186At what point does a player become "toxic" and "overcompetitive"? Are they supposed to go easy on the more casual players?
>>729480126You are a stupid Mortal Kombat buying black monkey.
>>729470186>enjoy game>naturally get better at it>casual tourists have a complete melty if you don't sandbag against them >they then try to blackmail the devs into ruining the combat with the threat of them leaving and the game dying if they don't pander to them>they inevitably leave the game even if the devs dumb everything down since they still can't compete and they would've jumped on the new trendy fotm regardless>people who actually liked the game are now left with a shallow imitation of the game they used to likeyou faggots ruined the melee slasher genre
>>729480632>Naraka BladepointHuh? I've never heard of this game in my life.
>>729480662>racist>blacks buy the majority of fighting and sports gamesPlease response with the usual blacks don’t buy games and give it back Jamal.
>>729480753>please abuse me more massauhhh nah I'm not into that
>>729480664Devs are looking for sales, they don’t care about sweaty faggots whose dads never gave them an atta boy in their life. They want casuals because if they think it’s fun more people will buy the game. Serious faggots will just sit on the game, won’t buy skins and seasons passes and just autistic stomp people because they are useless outside their house.
>>729473151This. Also, just play single player games.
>>729480556I fully agree. It’s amazing how NPC mode they go. Like Forza has over 700 cars and they all pick the same 2, they even did that shit in fucking Mario Kart…The lack of variety just makes games stale, yet the diversity of gameplay options is there, they just refuse to use anything else. It corrupts even coop games. Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak had this for a while until builds spread out late endgame. They’d all pick some meta dps build that drained your health and then they would insta cart to a single attack.Fuck my one friend instantly looks up meta builds for single player crap like Elden Ring.What happened to WoW? I’ve never played it.
>>729481070People just META gamed out of FOMO and either bored themselves out of getting to 60 or ended up with nothing to do. Playing specific classes to power level or spamming only dungeons.
>>729481070He looks up meta builds because that’s all you can do. Dark souls is a good example of games that added an unnecessary amount of competition. Its leaked into so many other games. Why even challenge yourself if someone can invade you and kill you instantly because you didn’t have your op set on at all time.
>>729480556I think you're overestimating how new this is, I remember endless M16 seethe in console CoD4 (yeah I know the AK was apparently better without aim assist on PC) and the only reason people used more than like 4 guns was the unlock system.
If competitve players actually stuck to ranked than it wouldn’t actually be a problem, they just want to dunk on retards and not actually be challenged
I’ll be honest I’ve never met someone who was a serious fighting game player who wasn’t the lamest faggot with the smallest dicks outside of anything but their games they play. No love, no patience and no desire to help the community they entered.
>>729481331CoD4 was fucking amazing. Dead silence and a shotty or a silenced Skorpion, two tapping people in the head while hiding in plain sight was peak.
