How's this game?
sanctuary of what now?
>>729474216pretty fun if you enjoyed skyrim/oblivion instead of todd jank it's eurojank
it's okay, i like some of the mage spells
>>729474216Jankfest, but the passion is there.
>>729474216I got it on the sale and am enjoying it. Its got some jank but its fun, the build variety seems really solid with tons of unique items you can build around and a fairly big skill tree to invest in.
>>729474216I was put off by the Arthurian lore and metal music cutscenes. If you’re looking for a high quality TES-like then KCD 1/2 are a lot better
It's not quite slop and not quite soulful, it's an interesting experiment, I found the combat very good and almost nearing Japanese quality with how tight the hitboxes could be and how you can dodge and hit within a hair's breadth
>>729475197>very good and almost nearing Japanese qualitymost embarrassing post of december so far
>>729475331ah yes westoid slop with great combat such as uhh hrm hmm uh hm ohh no no hurm hm....
>>729474216i couldn't figure out the gimmick to beating the first boss during the tutorial. would've been nice if the game gave me a weapon other than my fists.just replay oblivion instead desu
>>729475596>just replay oblivion insteadNow why would anyone consciously do that
low budget, but it has soulyou can feel the passion and they do some interesting thingsit has the boldness of young bloodif you feel like playing a TES game, you may as well play this instead
>>729475049>KCDworst combat system I have ever experienced in any game, everI’m glad I tried the first game for about 15 bucks before I could get duped into getting the sequelanyone who likes that shit is insane to me
I played it and it took me like an hour to get out of the starting dungeon. Traveled around a little, everyone was ugly, but at least 99% of characters are male so there's no feminist garbage.
>>729475842not enough combo meters and backflips?
>>729475440NTA but the Western games that have good combat are copies of Japanese games.
>>729475914Yeah, and that's a bad thing.
>>729475914more like the lock on system shits itself whenever you’re fighting any amount of enemies greater than one
two things about this gameThere is a lot of build autism and you can almost immediately make a truly broken as shit character and get weapons / items including tinky winky little rings and such that hype your character up andfor chapters 1 and 3 you can literally skip the entire story, just say fuck everything and move on Now, what hurt this game is that they shilled it, none of the ((influencers)) who talked about it were honest and admitted they were paid, so that hurts the games reputation and it would had been better if they didn't do that. A lesson to be learned really.
>>729475842Explain, in your own words, how it could possibly be worse than Bethesda's combat "system"
>>729476318Skyrim’s combat is fine, not actively bad. You whack enemies with a weapon, they react appropriately. You can have a second weapon in your offhand, or a spell, or a shield, and when you right click you cast the spell, hold the shield up, or attack with your second weapon. You also get shouts which can be pretty cool like send enemies flying with ragdoll physics. 2H weapons feel decently meaty, it’s satisfying to kill someone with a 2H charged attack. Is it deep? No. Is it amazing? No, of course not. But it’s serviceable and good enough for what it is. KCD combat is just a mess. And their solution to “fix” KCD 1’s combat was just make it way easier and more braindead in KCD 2.
>>729474216it's more like avowed than elder scrolls, so don't fall for thatbuilds are incredibly unbalanced, don't use summonsthe lore and main quests are decent
>>729476318the entire premise of the system is foundationally a dueling system in a game where you can randomly be attack by 5 bandits on the roadyou are expected to be able to determine the type of attack, angle of attack, and appropriate response for the attack, all within seconds, against enemies that could be entirely off your screen because you are locked onto a guy who isn't actively attackingthe whole system is fuckedBethesda might have a simple "left click to win" system but at least that system doesn't piss me the fuck off
The usual open zone crap.>you do a bunch of chores by going to x and then to y>gameplay boils down to bonking humans and humanoids on the head with big weaponboring, pointless
>>729475049KCD sorry im not gay
>arthurian game>main theme song sings muspelheim niflheim???
>>729474216Quite good, I played it and enjoyed it. The last of the 3 major areas in the game was significantly weaker than the other 2 I think, I was starting to feel burnout approaching at that point but I kept playing and finished the main quest. There are some pretty interesting build options, I managed to put together some crazy shit and found some crazy looking items for other specs as well, so the buildcrafting is pretty fun. I played a mage build, one complaing I have is that cool and useful spells seem to be very front-loaded, like I don't think I found a single useful spell I didn't already have in the 3rd chapter for example.Overall the game's good and the worldbuilding is interesting and somewhat unique.
>>729477049Yeesh, i don't want to know what the game degrades to if the horns are supposed to be the highlight of the game.
>>729474216If you like Elder Scrolls but are sick of replaying the same story/map/enemies then you'll probably like itThe main theme music really sucks. The music in game isn't as bad
>>729476318Because it only works in 1v1 you dishonest fag
>>729476679So your complaint is that getting attacked by 5 guys at once is a situation that will kill you if you stand there trying to fight in close range?
>>729477443my complaint is that I am fighting the lock on system itself more than I am fighting 5 NPC's because the system makes what is actively happening to my character indecipherable>who just hit me?>why did that block fail?>why am I locked onto the archer?>where did that guy I just hit go?>why am I falling over?>what happened to my stamina?>who designed this retarded shit?that's all I'm thinking usually whenever I engaged in combat in that shit game
>>729477829the game has a lock on system?
>>729474216I'm just past act 2, started the DLC. I'm really enjoying myself, it has that same AA feel that I got when I played Greedfall. The lore is pretty neat, it's making me want to try out the board game it seems to be based on. >>729475197I noticed this pretty immediately too, it definitely made the game feel a lot better because of it too.
>>729475440Tide games are swedish and have better combat than any japanese gameunfortunately Tide games don't have any weeb shit or pedophilia in them so they're probably not on your radar
>>729477952yesyou lock on to one enemy at a time in a first person melee game and the way you switch targets is by moving your mouse in the direction of another enemy and that also happens to be the same thing you need to do with your mouse when you want to block an attack coming from an angle>getting attacked from your right>move mouse to block my right>turns out there is another enemy off screen to my right>suddenly lock onto the new enemy and get hit in the ass by the guy I wanted to blockthe combat is fucking trash
>>729475197Glorious Nippon hitboxes folded 9000 times. You weebs always crack me up.
>>729478118>better combat>the enemies are human and monster human>you just one tap most enemies by hitting them on the head once, sometimes twice with the biggest weapon you have>using anything else is intentionally crippling yourself
Souljank
>>729477829Complete skill issue lmaoThat block failed because you're getting mobbed by a gangYou're falling over because gangs tend to surround you and you got hit from behindYour stamina is gone because you're getting the shit kicked out of you by 5 guys. They made the second one even easier and included a black doctor engineer from wakanda to ntr Henry while retcon'ing Henry and Hans to wanting to fuck each other so all the game journalists and streamers loved it, maybe try that one
>>729474216way better than avowed and osidislop
>>729478118look man, I like ratclick too but I wouldn't say it's better than ANY japanese game
>>729475197>not quite slop and not quite soulful>almost nearing Japanese quality you should probably kill yourself, my man. the world has plenty of NPCs and there's a non-zero percent chance the food you're eating could nourish the climate stalin instead.
>>729478340>give me more money after you hated the first game because we added nigger faggots and paid streamers to shill itnocall me bad all you want, the game is fucking garbage
the game has hand placed loot like morrowind, its fun to look around for hidden loot in dungeons, theres some really good stuff scattered around from the very start. I enjoy hunting for cool items, the combat is OK too.
>>729474216How viable is a plain sword and shield or two handed weapon build? Im a basic bitch.
Just reached the horns and got to the hub area, cleared the beach partially before encountering an ogre I couldnt damage. Game seems fine so far but during night I did get some extra loot from mobs in the form of unidentified shit that seems random. I should probably do that burning thing at the bonfire the game was telling me about, does that lock me into a certain ending?
>>729478460>>729478267>western trannoid seethe
>>729478718no, it doesn't lock you into anything
>>729478283>better combat of Japanese games>the enemies are ugly monster or leaping humanoid>you just roll out of their way when they lunge at you, sometimes twice before you can kill them>using anything else other than the Miyazaki Approved weapons is intentionally crippling yourself
>>729478718My biggest problem with the random loot from unidentified stuff is it feels kind of like an afterthought.
>>729475197>I found the combat very good and almost nearing Japanese quality with how tight the hitboxes could be and how you can dodge and hit within a hair's breadthFucking lmao this dude
>>729479347I remember when Pursuer shouted "REWIND TIME" at me and stabbed me to death after I'd already gotten to the Lost Bastille
>>729474216dont botherit plays like project nortubel but worse
>>729479474Made me chuckle
>>729479347i dont get it? the sword hits his legs?
>>729474216Interesting take on open world and first person melee combat, but jank is all over the place. the animations for 1st/3rd person are different, but the hit boxes are the same either way. Likewise the actual swing has a surprisingly small window of what counts as a "hit" and what doesn't so you can physically see the weapon swing into the enemy, but still "miss" because the crosshair was a smidge too far to the left or right. Likewise parries and shoves can totally lockdown an enemy that is roughly man sized to the point where they just don't get to act, and you can even build into being a parry god with larger parry window, more damage after parries, heal % of your hp after successful parry.6/10 ever so slightly better than average but needs more work.
>>729474216Game is alrightBut it suffers the issue of acts degrading in quality as you progress.The starting act is really fucking good.Act 2 it drops off a bit.Then reaching act 3 it just falls off a cliff.Act 3 really feels unfinished.
>>729479179Everything about the night time is half baked and irrelevant, but you still need to kill shit at the time once in a while so you can fucking fast travel.
booted it up for the first time today since i played during EA before almost any of the story was in the gamenot sure if it's a known issue but i had good frames but the shit felt like a choppy messsoon as i switched to from windowed to fullscreen it was like butter and i don't think i've had that happen with any other game so def play in windowed because fullscreen was default
>>729474216Interesting yet jank game that unfortunately clearly worsens in quality in act 3. Now you're probably thinking this means it's just a little bit worse but no, it's really quite a noticeable drop in quality.
>>729479756Beating the Wyrdknight's ass for the first time really kills the night, too.
>>729475049>I was put off by the Arthurian lore and metal music cutscenesGay as fuck of you, anon
A lot of the game's sidequests are named after Power Metal songs
>>729478887you will never be japanese.
>>729478718Pretty sure the ending is decided by some of your choices in quests and later at the last quest you gotta make some choicesthe twist of the "real" Arthur being a tired old man kinda hurts
>>729474216enjoyed it a lot. i wish it had oblivion style spell crafting.
>>729478718>does that lock me into a certain ending?lol no. there is an additional not so secret ending if you explore and find some certain quite obvious side quests and complete them before the end.
The stat requirement for gear vs the amount of points you get fucking pisses me off>Oh, you found some new armor? Well you can equip it in seven levels in about three hours :)
It starts off strong but gets lost in the weeds. People also take faaaaar too long to explain shit, it's like reading a Wuxia novel. This isn't a zoomer ADHD complaint either, the NPCs legitimately won't shut up.
>>729474216i dont like first person game
>>729480767Have you tried perhaps drinking a respec potion?
>>729480834You can change to third person, though I remember back then it was pretty buggy, I wonder if they fixed it since.
>>729480767The way gear works is...fine. Meet the minimums and you can wear just about anything, further points into a skill offer such tiny ass benefits that you only see dividends 50 or so levels later anyway. Most gear have surprisingly small requirements so even a tiny bit into all the stats will let you wear just about anything.
Really good. I bought the DLC the day it came out and am waiting for a good time to really sink my teeth into another playthrough after the holidays settle down.
>>729480916I've seen people playing with just the third person mode and it feels like it'd be awful for anything but melee, maybe even just 2h melee
>>729480870You think the points i put into meeting my weapon's requirement are fucking optional?
It has some simply amazing quests, locations, and characters.>Giving life advice to a Necromancer>The undead grave keeper tending to the crypt like an inn owner>Philosophical argument with a zealot quoting scripture at each other trying to get him to give back some stolen smut>Butting into a strange relationship between a blind women and her evil forest spirit husband>The entire corrupted Temple of the All Mother in Act 2>Galahad>Every conversation with Arthur as he rediscovers himself>>729480503It was kind of somber and nice payoff to the multi-act miniquest where you meet him on the shore fishing in various places.
>>729481287I messed around a bit with third person as a mage and it was awkward
>>729481506The game really is full of banger quests, the kind of 'Dark Brotherhood' equivalent they have in-game has had some nasty shit going on.
>>729481716Oh fuck, the Children of Morrigan. The only thing I didn't like with their quest line was there wasn't more of it.
>>729479886It’s important for me to be able to take the world seriously in TES and similar games. I don’t feel like the game or world is serious if there’s fucking metal music blasting or we’re talking about King Arthur and Camelot.
>>729480767i found that every act has a start, mid, and near end of act set of armors for all the archetypes but its very easy to find them out of order. i did the same thing in act 1, i found the good set i couldn't possibly equip for hours and hours and walked right past the mid set because it was looted from crates from an undead place by the beach instead from a mini boss or somewhere you'd expect to find stuff. also by act 2 if you even remotely do the side content and explore you'll be so far ahead of armor reqs it wont matter anymore anyway.
>>729481871>That pictureIt actually really took me out of the game when we were suddenly teleported to contemporary London
>>729481912>take the world seriously in TESOh holy shit.
>>729474216Boring after the first Act/Zone.
>>729481947>Get Lancelot's armor in act 1>Have the ability to equip it by a bit into act 2>Never take it off
>>729480503Why does Arthur get pissed off when you fulfill his human soul's request?
>>729481996Anon, this site regularly has people arguing about CHIM, the Civil War, and various other parts of the lore of TES. The lore is arguably more engaging than the actual game.
>>729482046He's Fore-Dweller Hitler
>>729474216Bad. The beginning is decent enough but that only plants false expectations in your mind, the longer you play it the worse it gets
Most fun I've had in an open world/oblivion-like in years. I'm a faggot for Athurian legend so it was cool to have the disembodied ghost of King Arthur around to talk to you constantly. Melee combat is super visceral and satisfying, albeit a bit jank at times. Has build autism, has good writing/lore. Only complaint is that the difficulty scaling is ass and you will find yourself hilariously overpowered very easily even on the hardest mode - it feels like they knew this and failed to solve this issue so they just threw in the Red Death tree so you won't get one shot by most shit in mid/late game.
Anyone claiming it's soulful or good is doing so because "le niche game"The AI is brain dead and will stop attacking you the second you get out of their aggro zone, running all the way back to their spawn. There's boring variety. There's literally zero feedback from taking damage and dealing damage barely causes them to react World is boring as fuck with a mediocre are direction. Weapons and armor are pretty same and useless, magic is pretty dope though Genuinely liked The ghost dudes voice acting though Overall solid 5/10, get it off free gog, dont spend actual money on it
lmfao nobody playing this game is playing for the ai or for it to be hard, there's a zillion roll slops for that already. if you don't like tes games then you bought/pirated the wrong game. people like this game because it playe like tes with a world and story that is beyond anything what emil and todd would ever even try because they have long since stopped giving a shit.
>>729482025>get that armor>get the duel knight cape which can be upgraded endlessly for crit>you have the best gear at the start of the gamenice progression
>>729482608>have to then play another 15 hours to get to like level 40 to even be able to equip all the pieces, most of which arent even remotely the best for a melee/2h build
>>729482608There's a good physical damage armor available in act one to be crafted, as well. Arondight and the armor just scale too well if you happen to sit at low HP, and once you've begun upgrading it, it feels a bit shitty to just swap over if you aren't stacking practicality for cash
>>729479602No, that game had a fucking bananas idea of tying your dodges to a stat, so even though the animation clearly shows you dodging, you could still get hit because you didn't level the right stats. I'm pretty shit at articulating rpg mechanics, so someone could explain way better what happened
>>729482702I mean, technically yeah, you can make a better build, but what's the point when you already smash everything with your two hander
>>729482789That massive sword you can find in the act 1 zone that has huge damage and huge stamina drain...but also regens all you stamina when you kill something. Cue going hacking, whacking, and smacking shit into the shadow realm with a big stick.
>>729482860If you transmog those into another greatsword you can also just use whatever moveset you want instead of the overhead swings.
>>729482721That's not how iframes and ADP work in Dark Souls 2. The fundamental issue with how the hitboxes work in DS2 is that animations are allowed to fully complete before the grab/hurt animation plays. What's happening in that webm is that the boss hits the guys leg with the grab, the rolling animation completes, and then it snaps into the grab animation. When you level ADP/Attunement it increases your agility stat which provides you more iframes on your rolls. However, the main thing that influences your actual vulnerability window is your equip load. DS2 deliberated attempted to nerf rollslop by making it so as your equip load gets higher your active roll frames get shorter, your roll distance gets shorter, and the longer the vulnerability frames last. Is it the best system? No, the way they chose to queue animations resulting in that webm is objectively bad design and it should just cut the roll animation the second the boss hits your hurtbox, but I think they made a good attempt overall at trying to nerf rollslop via ADP, vastly increased stamina consumption on attacks, and an equip load system that made wearing heavy armor have positive and negative payoffs. It's why lifegems exist, the devs expected you to be taking far more damage and playing the game at a slower pace hence all the torches and darkness everywhere (at least in early development before consoles ruined it all) that forced you to take it slow lest you end up ganked in the dark.
>>729479602>>729482721Adaptability determines your iframes, and so does Attunement, but at a much lower rate. When you level it up, it grows outward so to speak. So as you level it up, it gives leeway when you dodge too early or too late. The problem in that webm isn't actually the hitbox, as anon did get hit. The issue is the animation sucks him onto the weapon. Unironically, DS2 actually has some of the most refined hitboxes in the series. It's just a few odd animations, like that one.
>>729474216I just wanna know did they fix the Arthur not Talking/Spawing bug in act 2 and do the NPCs finally have voices in Act 3.
Switching talent trees in the DLC feels more like a concession of them knowing you'll origin potion eventually than being an actual thing they expect you to use in combat.
Does the hobo house in the first area also give free transmog, or just the home in act two?Alisa's house is alright but gives no utilities
>>729483595yes and yes, i dropped the game until they fixed this and it is now working
How is the deckbuilder game?
>>729474216Not a bad game, but all the good caster gear is either a dress or fetish wear.Combat is decent but the quests could have more variables involved as most are very linear.
>>729485802bro, your transmog?
>>729485802god damn that is one moist bastard
>>729474216Pretty good. Not as expansive as TES but still a good game
>>729475197>I found the combat very good and almost nearing Japanese qualityoh dear...
>>729474216kinda reminded me of outer worlds desuthey were both a superficial copy of a bethesda game with all of the sovl surgically removed and replaced with the worst worldbuilding and artstyle known to man
>>729475197>I found the combat very good and almost nearing Japanese quality
Did the console performance improve?