Why cant we get more RTS like the goat?
well theres mules in sc2...
it's the goat for a reason
>>729476623RTS games became novelty when the PC gaming space was consolonized. We had a peak just at the start of the 7th gen with ambitious stuff like SupCom, C&C 3 and COH and then a great blowoff with SC2 (which was in development hell for years) but then everything went to shit and PC became a 'pro' console
I like Battle Realms
>>729476623Died with PC gaming
>>729477369>RTS games became noveltyi think you do not know what that word means
>>729476623is that AI generated Starcraft? Doesn't look too bad.
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>>729476623Because Starcraft is too good, the only competitor Starcraft had was Command and Conquer and EA killed it.Why play any other RTS when all of them are now just copies of Starcraft?
>>729476623 It just occurred to me that SCV's don't have legs with cute little feet shooting out, but are in fact drills on the lower part of the chasis
>>729479769i think you were right the first time. those are mech feet.
>>729479769Every piece of art shows they are indeed feet.
People don’t buy them
>>729476879I hear low/mid level SC2 is a wildly different game to what the pro players play. I wonder if that's more fun, knowing just enough to play okay, but not so well that your unit roster is smaller because now you know which units are bad or too situational to ever use regularly.
RTS are Gen X/millennial codedZoomers don't care about military strategy
>>729476623But that's not AoE2.
>>729476623They tried to give you one and you people shit all over it.
>>729476623That's not TibSun.
>>729479976>>729480036But what about the jets that shoot out their back when they fly around?
>>729476623wasn't there some tempest rising game that came out this year that people liked?did that already die?
>>729481545>450 people playing it right now>less than 1k for the 24 hour peakIts dead.
>>729476623RTS are a Nortubel coded genre
>>729481404for use in low grav environments and to self-right if off-balance
>>729481187yes, it certainly is not
Try out:Dark ReignEarth 2140KKNDTotal AnnihilationZGrunts
>>729476623This game was never that good.Completely mogged by every TA like that came out after it.Starcraft 2 never worked because once you take the technical limitations away from Brood War, the game is inherently a broken mess balance wise that would always become victim to deathballs.
>>729476623rts already peaked with ao2de, aom, sc 1 and 2. all we need is a good remake or sequel for warcraft
>>729481019>you people shit all over it.Yeah because it sucked. Are you implying we snubbed a hidden gem or something?
>>729482315>remake for >warcraftAnonThat happenedI don't want another
>>729482371He's from Blizzard, and is threatening to do it again.
>>729482371>>729482713i said we need a GOOD remake not that shit
>>729482207nah its the best multiplayer rts and its not even closesc2 woulda been fine but they juiced the economy, gave every unit marine tier dps, made the collision size tiny and severely nerfed or outright removed every aoe ability/unit from sc1i dont think there's even 1 good aoe in sc2
>>729476623>chinkcraft>goatEveryone who isn't a Blizztroon knows Age of Empires II is the GOAT and still relevant today.
>>729476623Starcraft isn't the greatest, its not even good really compared to other games like it at the time. Blizzard has always just been the retard savant company, shitting out such extraordinarily derivative works it would be called AIslop if it came out today. Their strength is just the business leadership end of things, making better decisions than their competitors. Like Westwood, whom had possibly the most passionate and soulful studio ever, but with total retards making business decisions.
The only RTS series I ever played was Homeworld. Should I give Starcraft a shot?
I think the past part is how they chopped the whole game up into little pieces for the campaign and eventually built it up to trying to use the neat gameplay for interesting scenarios and stuff.
>>729477020This.Increase base speed of Protoss scout to vultures upgraded speed. Units can leave game by returning to their appropriate production facilities. Increase population cap to unlimited. Maps can be a thousand or more times the size of current maximum map size. Player count in a lobby can be a couple hundred or more.MMORTS please.
>>729483545Starcraft is a game that is both popular and good. Everyone should play the campaign at least once.
>>729483545Yes but the fanmade Starcraft and expansion campaigns in the Starcraft 2 editor. Its superior to the official remaster in every way, free and also you can choose whether to use the 3D models based on the original game art style or the SC2 updated style.
>>729483545Yes, you won't have the freedom of 3D space fighting but there is ground and air levels.
>>729480143why don't you play it and find out?
>>729483739>>729483874I just might give it a shot >>729483748They modded SC1 into 2? How does that work? Did they redo the cutscenes and all that as well?
>>729481745To its credit it's definitely a game built more around the campaign than the MP
>>729483467retard
>>729481545Dev team didn't do enough testing so the pvp is heavily skewed to very specific rush tactics that have no real counter so everyone just does it making it stale and dumb.
>>729483413The average aoe player has 4 hours of game time.
>>729484051Hes talking about Starcraft Mass Recall, which is a fan-made recreation of sc1 campaigns as sc2 custom mod/maps. it's definitely worth checking out if you like sc2, but it doesn't even come close to replacing starcraft 1 at all. play starcraft 1 first. Mass Recall's developers have changed a few times over the years as well, so theres quite a bit of wonkiness, and a few questionable cutscene choices. also don't bother with the hardest difficulty, because it's straight up stupid.
>>729476879Sc2 is ass
>>729484512Ah. Makes sense. So, should I go with the remastered version of 1 or just find an old copy of it?
>>729476623everyone from my generation always talk about WoW, but starcraft was my childhood
>>729484512>straight up stupidStupid how, may I inquire?
IN THE NAME OF KANE
>>729481404To make all the workers immune to spider mines
we need new rtses instead of endlessly and fruitlessly retreading the same old shit
>>729484553Remastered and original are almost exactly the same, plus remastered is free, the charge is for acess to pressing F5 to switch between classic and hd visuals
>wanting more fucking gookclickDancing in RTS was the mistake.
>>729484752Hm. Guess I will try the remastered version then. But if they are basically the same. Why did they remaster it in the first place?
>>729476623>not even mentioned ONCEEEbros...
only uncs play rts
>>729476623No because that would be DERIVATIVE and we already have Starcraft: Broodwar. Good luck improving on that formula that's been perfected over 25 years, idiot. What we need is something new.
>>729484593Maps retain the same layout, starting resources, and workers/forces for the player, but enemies on the hardest difficulty send very large attack waves very early, including large waves that spawn semi-randomly from behind the player's base. plus they get multiple higher tier units on early missions where the player hasn't unlocked counter units yet. basically almost every mission is a one base turtle-fest for like 20-30 minutes straight, by the time you can kill an enemy base for their resources you're often already out of resources at home. You'd be saving and loading a lot, except something about mass recall causes saving to not work most of the time, so its basically restarting the mission. it isn't technically impossible, just kinda dumb and knife's edge.
>>729484816hd graphics and widescreen support, and better multiplayer support, plus a little bit of new splash screen art. the gameplay itself is almost entirely unchanged though, intentionally.
>>729481019>demon shit combined with science fictionFucking ultra gay.
>>729485120Wow. Blizzard actually giving a shit and making a respectful remaster? Must have used the last of their soul to do it.
>>729476623Cause RTS games are some of the most challenging and demanding games to program. There's no chance that the Unreal slaves have the capability to make a RTS game on the level of Starcraft nowadays, let alone surpass it.
>>729485181one of the last things the classic games team made before they got sent to the COD mines by bobby i think. They weren't under much supervision, so they were allowed to actually care. even so they still wanted to do more, like an inproved version of the editor, and a 2v2 ladder. never made it in because they got sent to the COD mines before they could.
>>729485343That's just sad. But at least they got a good game out before then.
>>729476623Thank fuck we don't, Starcraft is shit.
Everyone who makes an RTS tries to make it for competitive.When every good RTD is remembered for its super cool campaign.
>>729483308Yes, Starcraft is the best ooga booga clickfast with bad UI. Too bad that makes you inherently bad.
if you already just want the same shit don't be mad when that's all you get
