Brehs....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeKLhdlahowIts real...
Versus XIII had a demo or something like that no?
>>729487019>FFXV Once Started With an Explorable Insomniawe always knew this. They cut out chapter 1 of the game to try and sell a movie that nobody watched.
Wasn't this part of the Platinum Demo?
>>729487450i watched itit was fucking trash, even diamond weapon couldn't save it
>>729487542yes
We already knew this. Remember this trailer?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8
I’m still more mad that we get to the lake section. Obviously meant to be a refreshing departure with civilization after a generic wasteland. And it’s over after 2 hours
>>729487557god the movie was so awful I genuinely can't believe they greenlit it
>>729487450The film was pretty doo doo butter
>>729487557>>729487687i liked itjessei meanrobi meanaaron paul was pretty good
>>729487557Knights of the Round was cool.
final fantasy 15 is unfortunately one of the only final fantasy games i actually likei dont enjoy the gameplay of the older ones like 3 or original 7, i dont like how glacially slow the remake is, and i dont like the tranny MMO one15 has a modicum of depth to its combat with the way directionals effect attacks and having secret moves like the charge attack on the greatsword. its worlds away from something like devil may cry but its actually closer to DMC than the bullshit they pulled with 16, especially after claiming that it "took inspiration"15 is a deeply flawed and unfinished game no doubt, but i enjoyed my ~100 hours, and would play more of it if it was released. the boyband grew on me, even as homoerotic as it was
>>729489179>15 has a modicum of depth to its combatnever post again point in factforsake language entirely
>>729489279you can play it as a "hold circle" game, but that can also be said of something like kingdom hearts with "mash X to win"the options are there, even if it might not require them
as someone that didnt watch your movies or anime or anything the story was a complete mess and completely falls apart after chapter 3t. I beat it for the first time two weeks ago
>>729489179Excluding SoP, XV is the best FF game since X. Low bar, I know, but it's not nearly as bad as /v/ pretends it is.
>>729487019We knew that Practically almost every trailer showed day time insomnia yet you NEVER explore it in the main game It wasn't until the DLC way later that they let you explore it as Ardyn.
>>729487019We already knew about this with cut content datamines from like 6 years ago.
>>729489698>XV is the best FF game since X. Literally fucking kill yourself 15 is as bad as 13 and just like 13 is the reason the entire franchise and the fucking company has been in fucking freefall due its disastrous developmentFF10 is literally the last indisputable GREAT FF game
>>729487019well you can do that in the DLC
Movie had great character designs.
>>729490047It's the least bad of everything since X. You can be mad, but I'm right.
>>72949011212 is better than 1516 is eh, but id still be better than 15 since atleast it doesn't fucking jew you with fucking up the entire structure of the fucking story and makes you watch a movie,anime and DLC. 15 is literally the epitome of everything wrong with modern Square Enix when it comes to both its development and story and the fact you dont see it just means youre a fucking retard thatll eat up any goyslop thrown at you.
>>729490316>12 is better than 1512 has zero humanity or soul to its story. it's just a bunch of emotionless characters providing exposition about a political melodrama the game never bothers to humanize or make you care about.
People are entitled to their opinion if you liked XV good for you. But let's not ignore the fact that XV and XVI are the reason why Square Enix is in shambles right now.
>>72949041513 being gay and 14 being even gayer didn't help either
>>729490415i think XV was at least an attempt to right the ship around but i suspect most of that is the bones of Versus XIII which was already trying to subvert the slop Square was turning the franchise into. if XVI flopping isn't a repudiation of Square's refusal to make the franchise a real RPG again i don't know what is.
>>72949040412 is genuinely full of soul in its design and dialougeHowever it does not appeal to everyone.
>>729490539the weird battle system was a turn off for me
>>729490316XII is the most forgettable story and cast in FF and the game plays itself. XVI starts off interesting, but drops the ball hard at Ultima reveal and it's barely an RPG at all.
Remember when 4chan trannies and schizos were saying that Nomura was working on Verum Rex or some shit and was gonna be the true or real Final Fantasy Versus XIIILMAO, but man, time really flies...Kingdom Hearts IV never ever
>>729490415I mean 15 is the 2nd best selling FF behind 14. It's even the best selling on PC where people had plenty of time to hear all the negatives before it was ported.16 used streamers to advertise and it worked to an extent. The prologue was genuinely interesting, but those same streamers went on to play the full game (alot of them dropped it) and their audience both has a reason to not buy it because it was spoiled and a reason to not buy it because they seen how hard the story fell off.
>>72949078515 being successful is the worst fucking to happen because they were utterly completely Jewish with so much of the game.
FFXV (VersusXIII) was such an incredible disappointment, no wonder it created one of the most mentally ill mindbroken schizo posters.Between FFXV and MGSV my soul and optimism for videogames was raped and destroyed for years.
12 is slop and unfinished dogshit.
>>729491413Yet its still the better game than 15
Sometimes I feel like the only person who quite enjoyed FFXV. It's got flaws but I actually 100%'d it, really liked all the characters, and enjoyed the story. The last stretch is disappointing, but I dunno, doing all the dungeons is fun, and the bounty hunts, etc. That giant turtle was cool. I liked it. =3
FFX was the last good FF game. Prove me wrong.
>>729491937i can't that's why i'm playing expedition 33 right now
>>729490539what's frustrating about it to me is that the pieces are all there but the development was fucked. i always talk about the moment i gave up on the game's story. it's the second time Larsa joins your party. Vaan, Penelo and Larsa are having like, a real conversation, an actual human moment with some levity and humor. and then after 5 seconds of that we pan back over to a monotone Balthier who is talking to a monotone Basch about the war that the monotone Ashe is concerned about. the other games did a much better job having humanized characters with real stakes in the ongoing political plot so those details mattered.>>729491937i think it was the last great FF and FFXV was the last good one, but it's an extremely flawed game.
>>729492095>but it's an extremely flawed gameGo on?
>>729492149FFXV is like 1/4th of the promise of what it was meant to be. it was very stitched together and it shows. they had to do years of updates to fix all the issues with the game and patch up the holes in the story. FFVII has a lot of extra multimedia projects and games after the fact, but none of them are required to understand the story of FFVII but the opposite is true of FFXV which is a multimedia nightmare with clashing tones that had to be finished with a Japanese only novel. there's a version of FFXV that's good but it would require Square to actually have faith in the brand again, they don't even though it's Square themselves that continually undermine it with retarded shit like "DMC but let's slap FF16 on the box".
>>729491848Good for you anon. I am glad you liked it, I think its dog shit and hated the fuck out of it. But what I really love about your comment is how you aren't trying to tell everyone how its actually, like, really good and because you liked it everyone has shit tastes. Yours is not the predominate opinion, and I'm glad you can enjoy it without making shit post threads extolling its few charms and virtues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgOZoWmeIEImagine a Godzilla game with this level of visuals.
>>729492401Yech. Godzilla game should be someone platforming all over the map in a city that godzilla is destroying.
>>72949240190% of those fights were movieswhat a waste
>>729492470lol fuck no
>>729490631Didn't XVI actually get the fantasy based on reality concept down? Yoshi-P even got several of Nomura's people to make a political commentary Final Fantasy even without the urban setting. I think even Stellafag liked it.>damn is that why he's not herer
>>729489179As someone who liked XV. I disagree with you. Go play its better older brother XVI. >>729490539Yeah XII was great. The feeling of MMO combat captured in a single player game. Truly action packed. They could have done so much more but they fucked up Ivalice with XII.>>729490631Nomura has a thing for "Boss goth yakuza sitting in the back of a limo" aesthetic. He's never written anything beyond that pitch.
>>729492802>Yoshi-P even got several of Nomura's peopleI heard that only very few devs from 12 wound up 14. The 14 project was only 11 and 12 devs put together for ARR but several of the Ivalice and Matsuno (even Kawazu?) devs wound up on Versus. And they went back to a semi-revival of the Versus concept in turn lol
>>729492401what yoshipiss envisionedlollmao
>>729492802the story is really the least of the game's problems
>>729492915>They could have done so much more but they fucked up Ivalice with XII.Matsuno did leave just eight months before it launch. But that explains why the last third from Giruvegan was missing so many cutscenes. He left when all the loose ends were about to be tied up
>>729493005>several of the Ivalice and Matsuno (even Kawazu?) devs wound up on VersusProof? Nomura doesn't work with anyone who hasn't already worked with Kitase.
>>729491848Alot of people like it, but it's impossible to discuss because of one obsessed schizo and his boyfriend, Barry.
>>729487619The yellow warm incandescent lights are so nice...Oh Stella...What could've been...I hope Nomura gets to make this game one day...
>>729491848I also like it but as others have pointed out, it's impossible to actually discuss it without the usual posters showing up and doing their shtick. Plus I don't think there's anything more to say, just speculation and longing for a non fucked version of this game.
>>729487687It would have been fine if it was actual in the game(where it should have been in the first place)
>>729492915the demo for 16 was so utterly dissapointing after them hyping it up like some sort of DMC clone, at least the same way SoP was a nioh cloneeven if its like, a fine action game, i just know the entire time i'm going to be thinking about playing another game, which is going to ruin the experienceits like playing a fallout game that isnt new vegas, i'm just going to be wishing it was the one i actually want to play
>>729490539FF12 is wedged between two Final Fantasy games I prefer far more than it, 10 and 13.
>>729491375>Between FFXV and MGSV my soul and optimism for videogames was raped and destroyed for years.MGSV at least gave us an ideal version of it to play in Ground Zeroes and the beginning of TPP was living up to hype and hope.FFXV from the jump was clearly neuteured, it just became more obvious and undeniable the more of the game you played.
>>729491848I didn't hate it, but It is undeniably disappointing.It's the first Final Fantasy I beat, only this year have I actually gone back to the others and having seen what a fully realized Final Fantasy game should be like, makes me even more hesitant to bother going back to FFXV.
>>729487019It wasn't just Insomnia, all the places the train takes you like, Tenebrae, were cut too. FFXV was supposed to be a pretty massive game with an airship that allowed you to travel the whole world and everything like a traditional FF game. Luna was supposed to have a bigger more engaging role in the game than just die right after you meet her, and Aranea too. But what we got with FFXV was a shell of a game. A single map full of gas stations, a train, a time skip and that's FFXV. A year or 2 later it got a whole bunch of Dlc that still didn't help make the game not feel totally unfinished and shallow. But somehow FFXV is one of the best selling FF games ever.
>>729493376>one obsessed schizoAre we sure the obsessed schizo and Barry aren't one and the same? Assuming it's Stellafag you're talking about he wound up turning into some garden variety Matsuno autist like Dreamboum.Fuck come to think of it could Dreamboum be Stellafag?
>>729499194Dreamboum and Stellafag love Matsuno, Maehiro and their games (TLR, 12 and 16), but Stellafag hasn't said anything about Suda51 games and Dreamboum doesn't start rambling on about how Tetsuya Takahashi and his wife should have taken Nomura away from Sakaguchi (as I'm sure one of you in this thread is going to post) or something. I can see why you'd assume they're the same though.
>>729493338Nomura hired those guys because he wanted to make Versus. A majority of those people stopped working with Kitase after FFX and even moved to XII and Crystal Chronicles projects. He really had it out for the game Toriyama was making and wanted to make something that had everything Lightning's game rejected or lacked. Wasn't this posted before?
>>729491375That map is outdatedHere's the actual map of the game
>>729498928I mean they did eventually turn the car into an airship because of fan demand. But the world obviously wasn't designed for it. There is only one new location you can reach with it and fast travel renders the whole thing meaningless.
>>729487019You know that girl you thought you finally gotten over but then out of nowhere you start missing her like crazy again but you know you can't have her back? That's how FFXV feels to me, the broken promise of it.
>the the boomers shook by FF16 and it's mature themeDid he just say the freakin F word!
>>729491375they even canceled 2 of the DLCswhat a shit show
>>729500672FF16 is mature in the same way most "mature" media are. Gratuitous sex and violence. In terms of actual substance it's as vapid as anything else. Arguably even more so. I thought it was one of the more childish entries in the series despite the superficial edginess. The greatest irony in all of it was that it couldn't even commit to the edge either, probably due to laws or whatever. The violence isn't particularly noteworthy and there is no actual nudity.
>>729492401>guy does a jimmy neutron brainblast and turns into a giant wizardlmao
>>729500883you can see Garudas butthole
So SE should bloat their games!!?
>>729501050they should deliver what they promised and not cut half the game out
>>729491937Did you even play FF7R?It's not just one of the best FF games but one of the best games Square has ever made.
>>729501079Didn't even finish the first part. The contrast with the original only highlighted to me all the reasons I lost interest in Final Fantasy, JRPGs and games in general. I thought it was even worse than 12-16.
>>729487019>remember bad game?>it could be as shit it as it is right now but with extra flavour of nothing...
I wonder what Hajime Tabata is up to these days...
>>729487019Nomura wasn't tard wrangled and they had to bring someone in just to get the game released.
>>729487019I'm disappointed that on PC (afaik) the co-op mode is still bugged, with any mission involving escorting an NPC causing severe desync with every other player and thus preventing it from being completed.
>>729501571I'm pretty sure it didn't happen because Square management forced Nomura's team members to work on main 13 and 14 1.0. Some even wound up on 14 2.0, and so he was stuck in Osaka working on spin-offs while his A-team was being abused by Square.The real fault loops back to whichever executive commissioned Crystal Tools in the first place. It's likely Wada, but Kitase is also probably at fault for making it work only for FF13 (Toriyama even more so).
PLAY WUWAIT'S FF CODED
>>729501110They never promised you that that's in the game
>>729487019it's all Versus. it would have been the greatest final fantasy ever made.
I wish I wasn't spoiled on this gameI think I would have bought and really enjoyed it otherwiseWhat other RPG can I buy to cope?
They could've had this if the action combat didn't complicate things.
>>729487687They greenlit Spirits Withing and almost went bankrupt, so...At least Advent Children wasn't offensive or anything, but still a 6/10.
>>729489179After playing FF15, 16 and Rebirth recently, it's clear to me Square does not clearly know or have an internal vision for what they want to do with Final Fantasy.I thoroughly enjoyed the three games but while playing I could notice a lot of points that were "yeah, I guess why people would hate this".
>>729487019As a tourist who sometimes plays some final fantasy games, FF15 felt awful to play.The combat was turbo ass, honestly if they kept armiger mode as default and entirely focus on royal arms from the get-go without even bothering in putting other weapons for noctis atleast then it'd been much better. Make the level progression unlock new moves in the nodes and add upgrades for armiger unleashed mode too. Get rid of the stupid "magic" grenades aswell as they are just embarrassing to even exist. The quirky chungus dialogue and forced pause after every enemy fight just needs to go, it has no place in an action game, entirely ruined the pacing and feel for me.Music was non-existant and not even memorable which was a first for me. Car driving is the worst I've seen in a video game, all they had to do was let you freeroam by default and stop making every tiny pebble just stop your car, it was awful all-around.Not gonna comment on the story as it meant nothing to me. Aranea best girl.
>>729505109>They greenlit Spirits Withing and almost went bankrupt, so...The Spirits Within is unironically a fair bit better than it.
>>729492316>but it would require Square to actually have faith in the brand againIt's really sad. But I mean the writing was on the wall. Think what you will of FF15 or modern Final Fantasy as a whole, but the first misstep was right at step 0, when they decided to take a -spinoff- and instead attempt to make it into the biggest game in the franchise and company history, while also chasing western trends that little to nothing to do with Final Fantasy itself. The game was already a spinoff because it wasn't going to play like a Final Fantasy game. It could have been a rad spinoff I am sure, but as a mainline game, it was always off to a bad start. Especially when they tried to increase the scope of the project by like a thousand percent or something. Funny how Versus13, the non-FFlike spinoff, was for better or worse given all attention and money from Square Enix, and given the Final Fantasy name. But Bravely Default, the game that 100% plays like Final Fantasy, was not given the Final Fantasy name, and also had to make due with a scrap budget from leftover funds from other projects. Largely ignored by the executives until its success surprised them. What a shitshow it all is.Also interesting to note how Mistwalker's Fantasian plays like Final Fantasy too I guess. Excellent game by the way. But it's kind of telling that it for some reason isn't Square Enix making these games. And now E33 arrived to great success and won all the awards from all the critics. If Square Enix actually had any faith in Final Fantasy, like games like Bravely Default and Fantasian or whatever, whatever, Final Fantasy wouldn't be in such a sorry state that it is now, and no offence to E33, but Square Enix absolutely could have made a better FF than E33 if only they cared but they clearly don't.
Ultimately the games biggest failings was its lack of romance and coom bait. It had the perfect recipe, a comfy open world to drive around in and do random quests and dungeons, then it shit all over that by making the main party 3 gay dudes.The best parts of the game were when Iris joined the party and made it a 4 person team. If one of the gay dudes was replaced with Iris(bonus for the dragoon chick was well) and suddenly it becomes an 8/10.
>>729489279He's right though. 15 sucks but it has the tiniest iota of depth whereas 16 has literally actually zero.
God, FF15 was such a shit game. What a waste of resources.
>>729491848This. It's great fun and playing it got me back into gaming.
Now you will remember Comrades
release Versus XIII
>>729509543I already bought FF15 on sale. Please tell me I didn't waste my money on actual shit
>>729499552XII had a similar issue to this, only the equivalent of Tenebrae was actually explorable and the game gave you a good idea of what the empire was like and how the upper and lower classes lived with what was effectively just 2 areas, which is something XV totally failed to do even with the extra DLCs it got
>>729491848I think it's meh. The characters were likable and I did end up 100%ing it. Tried to replay it on PC and didn't get very far before stopping so I haven't done some of the later DLC stuff like the new dungeon
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>>729510219Try to get your money back asap.
>>72951021915 did more damaged to the FF brand than 13 did
>>729511397Not anymore when 16 exists
>>72951151516 sold like shit because of the damage that 15 did. Also, 16's only flaw is not being a FF game, it's still more competent than whatever shit 15 attempted to do.
I will never trust squeenix ever again!
I fell for it.And i played it without the first patch so all the context of whats happening in Insomnia was the main characters reading the morning paper or watching the bluray.
>>72951158216 sold like shit because word of mouth spread just how shit the game really is. It’s just movie dmc clone slop that scammed people into thinking it’s an rpg. It’s amazing how Square scammed 3 million people into wasting money on that trash and it made them lose any faith in the mainline series. I know I was one of them.
final fantasy xv is one of the most raped games ever
>>729511827>16 sold like shit because word of mouth spread just how shit the game really is.Then why did 15 sell so fucking well?>It’s just movie dmc clone slop that scammed people into thinking it’s an rpg. Why did you just describe FF15? Though, calling FF15 a DMC clone is kind of insulting, that shit's combat was even more braindead than the PS2 GOW games.FF15 damaged the brand, that's a fact. It brought in so many new comers only for them to hate it and drop the franchise forever.
>>729512027>Then why did 15 sell so fucking well?Versus13 hype>Why did you just describe FF15?Don’t make me call you a retard. 15 had a lot of content and exploration that outweighed its shitty combat flaws. it still had playable party members and the bare minimum of basic rpg elements even if they were also shit. 16 has none of this.
>>729512430>Versus13 hypeOnly a handful of autists cared about versus13 by that point. 15 sold well because it's the most shilled game of all time, shit was fucking everywhere in every shape or form.>15 had a lot of content and exploration that outweighed its shitty combat flaws.People are finally feeling nostalgic for the most generic and empty open world game of all time>it still had playable party members???????????>and the bare minimum of basic rpg elements even if they were also shit. 16 has none of this.Only thing that FF15 had over 16 with basic RPG mechanics was weapon diversity instead of the retarded system that 16 had. That's it. Tell me with a straight that 15's magic system isn't literally just 16's system but with an extra chore.The fact that the devs canceled the final DLCs despite the game selling so fucking well is proof that even they knew that no one gave a shit about 15 anymore after playing it once due to how dogshit it was. It did permanent damage to brand.
>>729487019>game in dev hell >has been in dev since PS3>they went full retard and bloated the game, original director left and got replaced by a chump to fix it>game flopped, cancelled>director left the companyJapanese concord
>>729512829Never mind what i said. You are a retard.
>>729513001still a million-seller though
>>729512829>XVIfag refuses to admit XV had playable party members Every single time
>>729500883I've yet to see a game that actually depicts the actual gratuitous sex and violence real life has, to the point most games feel like something for children soft in the head and prudes who watch cartoons as "adults." FF16 isn't as close as reality, but feels more like a lived-in, believable world than most of the series.
>>729513380Part of the reason I dislike FFXVI is because I believe it's a cheap slap in the face. After reading ASOIAF, it's a gutless, no balls narrative which thinks sex and swearing means mature while they don't have the balls to make Joshua die by Clive's hand and fumbles world building so bad the setting is more like Medieval Naruto than Westeros. The gameplay is a shoddy derivative of Devil May Cry missing many basic features that have been there since DMC1 and many of thrse features have been in past FF titles. This is where it goes from meh to insulting.
>>729487450I saw it in theaters, but I can't remember anything about it except the main guy could teleport or something and used the ring to get powers to fight something at the cost of his life.
>>729498338>Cutscene simulator of TPP>living up to hypeI got tired of the railroading cutscenes by the time I hit fucking Afghanistan anon, the extremely limited story did not help shit.
>>729513893>Metal Gear Solid>No cutscenes
>>729510135i remember having to jump through hoops to get the DLC version installed on the ps4 just to complete the trophy list.
>>729514012TPP was somehow even worse, hell, you could skip cutscenes in MGS2 and you'd actually start sooner in the dialogue like with the Tanker section. I get your fucking point retard, but TPP opening section was ONE CUTSCENE AFTER ANOTHER, that opening could almost be an hour if you were a consistent fuckup.
>>729514131MGS2 and 4 are both longer in terms of cutscenes than MGSV.
>>729506707E33 is substantially different in tone to Final Fantasy or Bravely or Octopaths. It's main story beats isn't typical JRPG stuff. It's just sad from beginning to end.
>>729487019Focus M ass dialogue
>>729487687It wasn't that bad it was just poorly thought out and made everyone look incompetent or stupid, you can at least turn off your brain and enjoy the action.There are much worse movies out there and much worse video game movies especially.
>>729487019Where's Nora when you need him...
>>729515101Expedition 33 isn't all sad.
>>72951332915 had playable party members way way later in its life that people who initially played it and were disappointed obviously didnt go back to know they added it way later.Theres like 3 different version of 15 in peoples minds because they patched SO MUCH SHIT later
>>729514465Are you fucking including lore and info dumps in FUCKING CASSETTE TAPES BECAUSE OF ALL THE MONEY WASTED ON THE MOCAP?
>>729487687square's retarded attempts to make movies are really what killed final fantasy
