I think it's time to admit that Dark Souls 2 aged the best out of all the DS games.
>>729506382It aged the worst actually
>>729506492FPBP
>>729506382I think it's time to move on from soulslop for fuck sake it's been almost 10 years since dark souls 3 came out
games don't age, bandwagoners just change their minds but don't want to admit they're easily influenced retards so they pretend the universe changed instead.
DS2 felt outdated when it released. It didn't even have item images when picking shit up, just generic icons. Demon Souls aged better than this garbage.>>729506542kys tendie
>>729506492Holy shit, OP BTFO
>>729506382Scholarship of the first shit is bad unless you play it with friends.
>>729506382This but sincerely genuinely actually indubitably unironically
>>729506382Never played this one. I always research the games I purchase prior to doing so and this one sounds like an absolute terrible experience compared to all the other Fromsoft Souls games. I bought and played all the others, but this one just seems very badly put together.
>>729507387You have to put something like 10 levels into adaptability to reach DS1 iframes on dodging, the movement in general feels a bit clunkier, and the boss designs are mostly bland until you get to the DLCs. It's still a good game though and if you like 1 and 3 it's worth playing. The DLCs have some of the best bosses in the series.
>>729506382It's more entertaining than Dark Souls 1 which is just a fucking jogging simulator.
>>729506382is it opposite day every day for you?
>Iron keep>Tower of BrumeIf it wasn't for Iron keep and the Tower of Brume it would have aged fine.Tower of Brume is too long and those stupid respawners which you have put the thing into to kill feels like a dumb mini gameIron keep, the worst run to a boss in any souls game, honestly I've no idea how this got through quality control.But in general I like the bosses. Not too hard unlike ER. The right balance. A comfortable challenge....
>>729507480This pretty much sums it all up. The game isn't even hard, but you'll die constantly because for some fucking reason they decided to tie i-frames to a fucking random ass stat that they don't explain shit about. If you pick the bandit class, your early game will be absolutely awful, specially if you've already played either DES, DS1, DS3, BB or ER.Then once you google tricks on how to gitgudscrub at Dark Souls 2 and finally bump up your agility stat, you'll see that the game is actually extremely easy and that the bosses are all absurdly awful. They all have the most basic and unmemorable movesets ever conceivable and are pretty much normal enemies with big health pools. This guy did NOT deserve to have a fucking boss health bar.
>>729507480>The DLCs have some of the best bosses in the series.why does this lie keep getting repeated?name two, and don't say fume knight with its 3 slow attacks
>>729507848>fume knight with its 3 slow attacksFume Knight's moveset is more varied than that, and what makes his fight interesting is that he occasionally adds an extra attack on to the end of a combo, so you need to be constantly vigilant. Add to that the fact that his weapon swing cuts an extremely wide arc. It's a fun, challenging fight. This, Sir Alonne, Elana and Sinh are good fights, with Fume and Alonne being two of the best in the series.
Dark Souls 2 will always be the retarded black sheep of the series
Whatever triggers the DS3 faggots more, I'm all in.
>>729506382It's called BEST souls 2 for a reason.
>>729508194>game good because......... it pisses off someone elseGetting tendie vibes from this post
>>729507480>>729507705So skill issues, i dont know how to play the game and i'm baad
>>729507848>Sihn>Sir Alonne>Fume Knight>last but not least the CHAD Ivory King
>>729506492Kys coward faggot
>>729507480>You have to because muh ds1 iframesIt ever occur to you that maybe DS1 didn't need to have iframes and the quicker you realize that the faster you can break your brain from this iframe drip fix like a junky
>>729506382No. I like DS2 but DS1 is objectively the best of them even with dragon ass lavaland. DS2 is probably my second favorite though.
>>729508634It's not. You have feelings for DS1 but it's objectively not the best.
>>729507387souls game with most weapons ( and variety ) in itsouls game with most miracles/sorceries in itsouls game with the best variety/fun of covenantssouls game with longer duration/most areassouls game with the best replayability, as until NG++ the game changes with new enemies/different itemssouls game with the most interactivity, almost all areas have a "cheeky" spot/puzzle or something interesting/unique to them
b-but guys i gotta have my iframes oh whatever will i do without muh iframes
>>729506492This desu
>>729508627I only played the game once and I leveled adaptability early on because I assumed the game would be annoying without it. Maybe it isn't, I don't know. But your claim to DS1 didn't need iframes is only true because parrying exists. From memory, isn't parrying way more awkward in DS2? Either way, obviously most players are going to go for the rollslop playstyle, and the adaptability stat was one of the biggest complaints people had, that's why I brought it up,
>>729508679No, it's objectively the best. It has the most varied bosses. It has the best designed world. Those are the two most important things in a souls game(which incidentally is why 3 is the worst one). 2 has more varied builds which is a point in it's favor but that's the main thing it has over it.
>>729508805No it's true becaue you can just walk around and backstab spam all the enemies
>>729508813NTA but i urge you replay the games ds2 is the best.
>>729508813Those are you feels. Which dont mean anything
>>729508813What's actually important in a videogame is enemies doing things.
KINO
oh my gawd duh ifrrames whatever will i do! I cant just direct my roll not into the enemy attack like virtually every fucking video game ever made NOOOOO
das2 is my favouritejust dont use lifegems
>>729508946Using Unreal 4 for SotFS had to be one of FromSoft best decisions, the game lighting looks insane still to this day.
>>729509093wait its on unreal and not their gimmicky noname engine? thats why mods are in such quality, nice
>it's another schizo thread with the one tranny spamming shit webms
>>729508679>>729508801>>729508918>>729508946>>729508998>>729509069Why is no one ever able to effectively argue his points with facts and just settles with "it's not my fault, it's the games duurrr ds1"?
>>729508946>>729508998>>729508934Look bro, you can respond as many times as you like but it's not gonna change my opinion. I like 1 best. I also like 2, just not as much. I do not like 3. Nothing you can say will change any of these. What I value in a souls game is an interesting world to explore and bosses that aren't just guy in armor #215.
>>729509296see>>729509318every time, kek
>>729509161Yeah, you can also tell because it's the only one with decent antialiasing>>729509163Because the truth hurts your feefees? Like >>729509318
>>729509318You said muh objectively and now it's "w-well in my opinion.." no one cares about your feelings
>>729509379My opinion is objectively the correct one and you are entitled to it. You're welcome.
>>729507848They know the rest of the game sucked ass and most people justifiably dropped it without touching the dlc
>what i value in souls game is the world>hates dark souls 2 the only game with actual world
>>729506382ds1 aged the bestds2 is still the most fun though
>>729507848fume knight, blue smelter demon, sinh, ivory king
>>729509318>>729508934Again nta
>>729507705>for some fucking reason they decided to tie i-frames to a fucking random ass statpeople complained that it looked silly to roll through attacks in ds1 and rely on i-frames and that fights should be more about positioning and physically avoiding attacks, so they balanced bosses around that in dark souls 2 but gave you the option to get i-frames back if you want with ADP.basically the true dark souls 2 experience is playing with low ADP and using positioning instead of roll spam.
>>729507848I think Sinh is one of the best dragon fights in the series, if not the best. But yeah the rest is all subpar, can't name two.
>>729510009>basically the true dark souls 2 experience is playing with low ADP and using positioning instead of roll spam.my 1st playthrough was like that but also a mage so a single fart from every boss after semen of dong just one taps youwould NOT recommend
ds2 sucks and all but i rather take that game than the rollslop grey dull muted game that is dark souls 3 that panders to ds1 fags way more than ds2ds2 at least tried to be different
>>729510046you really can't name ivory king and alonne?alonne alone(heh) is the most memorable ds2 boss even normies know about him
>>729510009That could have been good if the hitboxes weren't so frequently wonky. If they were more polished and ADP didn't exist at all they could have achieved the intention, but I guess they needed an option to rely on iframes because they knew how many attacks were not very polished. Positioning is much harder when you can't rely on what you see to judge what is actually happening under the hood.
>>729510118It's just a dude in armor and DS2 is the worst game for that. Ivory King gets extra points for the level-wide gimmick that factors in the fight, sure, that was good. Still not best in the series tier, not even close, which is what the discussion was about.
>sadness ahead
>>729510127Funny cause i played DS2 exactly like that and can say it has the best hitboxes in the series. If you tried playing DS3 without iframes you'd never avoid a hit.
>>729510179>bro ds2 fucking sucks cus its dude in armor>"so anon what's your fav ds1 or ds3 fight?">GAEL, ARTORIAScurious!
>>729510236>DRAGON SLAYER ARMOUR!
To be perfectly honest, every game in the series has some jank hitboxes here or there. It's not unique to any of them. Usually a grab.
>>729510197Why didn't you save her?
>>729510214You can't avoid all hits in DS3 without iframes because bosses are shitty spastic retarded proto-Elden Ring fights, not because of the quality of the hitboxes. You can literally hug the Dancer's ass in her phase 2 spin to win attack and she'll miss almost everything, except for the last hit that you still have to iframe through because of course she has a 360 spin at the end of the anime combo.Bloodborne had similar boss behavior but staggers were much easier and integrated into weapon movesets, so it made more sense. Amelia is a spastic retard but if you know what you're doing she's not leaving stunlock from start to finish. The game is actually easier because of it, but From just decided to import and interate on boss behavior without importing and iterating on player controls, and it was all downhill from there.
>>729510236AND GWYNAND GWYN 2.0!Oh... and!!! Ornstein and Smough!
>ds2 gets a lot of shit for "bad grabs" when ds1 and ds3 got bad grabs as well>but people hyperfocus on ds2why is that? all games have sins
>>729510337Nameless King's hitboxes are completely fucked. Anytime he's on his bird you'll get hit from 10 feet away.
>>729510236I never said DS2 sucks. I think Gael is shit as is DS3 as a whole and would rank Sinh much higher than him.But keep fighting your strawmen if it makes you feel better about your opinions. Easier to pretend DS3 fans are out to get you than actually discussing design.Since you're interested, my favorite DS1 boss is O&S, for DS3 it's Lothric.
It was my first and only souls game. I liked it a lot. Fuck the haters.
>>729510273Sure, I can agree. I also think DS2 has more jank hitboxes than the others, and it's precisely the one that decided to be more about positioning and nerfing iframes. A terrible combination.
>>729510285Because the game didn't let me, it forced me to stand there watching her die a horrible painful death in some rundown shack.But I fulfilled her wish of her and her story being remembered. 11 years and still my number 1 FromSoftare waifu
>>729510443see they dont actually argue you with facts. They always do this. And then they tell you that you dont wanna have a discussion when it's impossible to argue someone's feels.
>>729510440Yeah the bird's hitboxes are trash. Still like that phase a lot more than phase 2, but can't disagree with that.
>>729510273I agree but DS2 just gets too much fucking flak for it, whenever a game has a weird hitbox and teleports you even though you dodged its immediately called Dark Souls 2 hitbox.Meanwhile DS2 issues are purely because of ADP which i agree is just stupid and should be removed. The only actually outrageous hitboxes are grabs and thrusts.I've played DS1 recently, that shit has worse hitboxes than literally any game you will ever play in that genre. And they are randomly popping in and out.Yes i fucking watched some YT series made by a redditor about him dissecting every hitbox in the entire game, yes its that bad.
I like all the Dark Souls games, to be honest. :/
>>729510585I didnt like DS1 but mostly because of all the running, game itself is more than fine.I however, despise fucking 3 with all my heart and whoever defends that game is a total NPC in my mind.
>>729510585Are you doing an all games randomizer or something? Since you booted all of them so recently.
>>729510527Honestly it's pure kino
>>729510731Regularly play DS2 and Scholar, but I booted up DS1 and DS3 recently because friend wanted to see what my characters looked like.
>>729510527>>729510197You have to understand she does not in fact want to or can be saved.Unless you find a cure to the undead curseIts okay to let her go but dont forget about her
>>729510789>characters get deleted when you uninstall the game because of no cloud feature
>>729510930Your savefiles don't get deleted if you uninstall the game, only if you delete the folder where your saves are stored. Why good idea to backup eitherway.
2 is pure adventurekino.
>>729510585>master of rings achievementfuck that
>>729510009>people complained that it looked silly to roll through attacks in ds1 and rely on i-frames and that fights should be more about positioning and physically avoiding attacksThose people were right
>>729509296>his You're fooling no one, samefagger
>>729506382There's literally no good DS2 level, and no, Majula is not a level
>>729511323Why lie?
>>729511323iron keep is fun
>>729511261WOw, look at you using your environment and thinking like an adventurer. Using movement and spacing. Why is this the only souls game like this?
>>729506382Best NG+, that's for sure at least.
>>7295113232 has the best levels. 1 has the worst. And 3 is the most mid.
>>729511409>5 enemies every square metercome on man
>>729510878She is desperate for being saved, she tells you all the time how scary being slowly hollowed is and how desperate for a cure she is. And the only 2 things she remembers before dying are her, her brother (maybe) and you
>>7295114513 is the worst game in every regard. There isn't a single redeeming aspect to it.
>>729511468WHat's this! Enemies...in my action rpg game...HOW COULD THE YDO THIS!? And all i wanted was to walk and read item descriptions
>>729511409Vanilla version maybe, but scholar is a gank
>>729511518Weapon arts are pretty cool, I'm glad it returned in Elden Ring
>>729511547When would anything like this ever happen in any other souls game? DS2 is fucking nuts.
>>729511547>I love being ganked by poorly placed enemy is fungood for you man, but there's a reason they made enemy despawn a mechanic
>>729511547I miss the funny extra gap in the path you walk through at 0:10
>>729511643Ok, so you're soft and bad and casual. That's literally every ds2 critique ever. Maybe they should just take dying out of the souls games. I mean who loves dying lol. That shit's not fun lol
