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>we need a weapon for the good guys
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i dont know why, but it looks unfinished
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>>729511298
>we need a weapon for the bad guys
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We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that.
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>>729511298
>>729511414
>goy guns
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>>729511298
Gods, Wood looks so sexy and aesthetic. why do people keep pushing poly as better alt when this thing probably weight as much as the nu-us rifle
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>>729511414
>we need a weapon that shoots like the AK for the good guys
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we need a weapon for the cool merc enemies
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>>729511298
>>729511414
>>729511626
>>729511723
Why the fuck are you guys posting fortnite guns?
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>>729511298
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More like >>729511414 the starter assault rifle and >>729511298 this is the upgraded assault rifle
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>2003 vidya
>we need a weapon for the high tech super secret black ops spec ops guy
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>>729511428
Cut out the fucking middleman.
Make every single of your replies
>saar reddit tranny slop goy reddit

Do it fucko.
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>>729512365
what were they thinking
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>>729512365
My God what a hideous gun
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>>729512550
not enough warcrimes, give it a flamethrower and a chainsaw bayonet
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>>729511298
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>>729512550
It was the remaining embers of "we need super tech to defeat the Soviets.
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>we need a rifle for Canadians
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>>729511723
The French need to make another rifle for shits and giggles
Why would they decide to buy a German gun to replace that
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>We need a gun that looks like a bastard child of G3 and M4
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>>729512637
>flamethrower
You want a rocket launcher with that?
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I want a hk516 upper so damn bad, but the price is NIGGERS
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>>729512550
Idea was cool, programmable grenade launcher(big part) that can airburst as soon as it enter building. Then it turned out in practice that 25mm grenade is anemic, especially since it have to include programmable fuse, ammo with programmable fuse is fucking expensive and entire weapon is heavy af. So program went into limited field testing as standalone grenade launcher but was canned because it was still heavy piece of shit that costed a lot while providing no substantial increase in firepower, so military stayed with it's standard 40mm underbarrel tube. Without sci fi grenade launcher new assault rifle provided no benefit that would justify cost of switching so it was also canceled, just like every M16/M4 replacement. Same thing happened to M2, you could easly do something better just look at russian KORD, but why bother when M2 is good enough and you don't have to invest any money because assembly line is running from 30's and there is no point in switching when you can just replace damaged guns.
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>>729512550
It was all about the airburst grenade system on it
>bad guys hiding behind cover whether it be in a trench or behind some rubble
>program the distance in, fire it above their heads, laugh as shrapnel shreds them from above
>alternatively dudes shooting from windows or some shit
>program that distance in, send an airburst grenade through the window
>grenade explodes right in the air in the middle of the room causing more damage than a frag grenade probably would and negating the risk of some fucking hero saving all his buddies by throwing himself on the grenade
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>>729511298
same shitty fucking threads over and over. absolutely based
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>>729512365
fish
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>>729511298
>we need a weapon for the sophisticated caucasian terrorists
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>>729513307
Does airburst even deal that much damage? Won't the shrapnel just continue flying forward instead of 90 degrees to the side where the target is?
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>>729511723
I have not seen a bayonet in hundreds of years
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>>729513970
It'll still shit up whoever is in the room. Even if it doesn't injure them, it'll make them panic.
I would piss myself if an airburst grenade went off over my head. Wouldn't stay there to get again.
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>>729512637
>flamethrower
It is not a warcrime. Neither are chaisaws.
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>We need a gun for a WW2 resistance level
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>>729514597
Ak, M4 and all guns currently in use still have bayonets. Soldiers alredy need knife so having option to put it on gun to make pointy stick won't go away.
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>>729511298
>>729511414
What weapon does the main villain use again?
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>>729515150
Chainsaw could be categorised as "unnessecary cruel", but nobody use chainsaws as weapons in armed conflicts so nobody care about it's legality.
Flamethrowers are 100% legal, thermobarics are classified as incendary weapon/flamethrowers and are still in use by everybody.
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>>729512365
Who designed this abomination?
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>we need a gun for the favela gang enemies
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>>729515549
A desert eagle or some high caliber revolver.
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>we need a gun for shooting big bullets at niggers
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>we need a futuristic gun
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>>729513103
de Gaulle is rolling in his grave over the French buying German rifles
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>>729514597
vampires shouldn't be allowed to post on /v/
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>we need a gun that you unlock after beating the game
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>>729515724
what was the idea behind this thing again?
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>>729515597
Yeah, no one's gonna start swinging chainsaws in modern warfare, it's not Dead Rising out there. The whole "unnecessary suffering" clause only really applies when something's actually fielded. Until someone straps a Stihl to a drone and sends it into battle, the Geneva Conventions won't care. Flamethrowers are nasty but effective, especially in close quarters or trench/bunker clearing-thus why they've stuck around in different forms like thermobarics. War never changes, just gets more techy.
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>>729515931
Caseless Ammo would weigh less because you only have the bullet and the actual explosion bit that launches the bullet at high velocities, compared to brass casing + bullet + explodey bits to launc hte bullet at high velocities. This meant that soldiers could carry more ammo than they would with Cased Ammo.
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>we need a gun that's somehow worse than both the AK and the M16/M4 and also it's the year 2001
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>>729515597
>Flamethrowers are 100% legal, thermobarics are classified as incendary weapon/flamethrowers and are still in use by everybody.
i'm surprised we don't see more flamethrower usage, they'd be devastating in the current neo-trench warfare meta, especially those flamethrowers on tanks with a range of 200+ meters (or 656 burgerfeet)
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>>729516056
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>>729511298
>we need a weapon for the alt-hist good guys
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>>729512550
Back when gun designers had sovl
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>We need a gun for the secret bad guys
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>>729516093
Would a flamethrower be good against drones?
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>we need a weapon for the security guards
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>we need a slow machine gun. give it high damage to compensate
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>>729516279
technically yes, but you're also likely to burn yourself and everything in a 20m vicinity
However drones with flamethrowers strapped to them, that'd be a nightmare.
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>we need a gimmick you can use in the trench level
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>we need a scary superweapon the NAZIS are working on. put nerve gas in the warhead or something
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>QUICK, YOU MUST PREVENT THE ROCKET LAUNCH OR THE WAR IS LOST!!!
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>>729516407
imagine how good that must smell. was lead used in the primer or is this all black powder?
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>we need a generic submachine gun
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>>729511298
>zionists
>good guys
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>agent, we have just received this disturbing photo from one of our resistance contacts. we need you to destroy [SECRET FACILITY]
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>we need an overpowered fire hose of death
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>>729511974
Fortnite doesn't have the ak
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>>729516357
Surely a gas flamethrower (no sticky burny liquid) would be good and less dangerous to yourself and everyone around? It would still blind and overheat the drone, and maybe explode any ordnance it's carrying?
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>>729516407
>Hat of CQC: Deal explosive damage at close range
>Flankshot Earmuffs: +1 secondary projectile that will be fired from the left or right for 75% of total max weapon damage
What are some guns that let me take advantage of roguelite builds?
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the saddest gun story for me is learning that the p90 has no real use IRL
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>we need an endgame assault rifle
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>we need a weapon for our corpo goon hit squad
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>>729511974
this post confuses me.
Isn't fortinite a video game? Why wouldn't /v/ the video game board, post fortinte guns?
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>>729516858
Not on Earth, anyway.
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>>729515458
>quick, we need a german MG, doesnt matter if it was in production yet
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>>729511298
>>729511414
you mixed up your files
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>>729516858
Isn't the real life use of all guns to kill people?
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>>729517213
name one instance of this happening
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>>729516093
>m surprised we don't see more flamethrower usage
We do lol. In ukraine both russians and ukrainian use thermobaric rockets(called flamethrowers) all the time when assaulting enemy position. Nobody uses classic spew fuel flamethrowers because they have short range and thermobaric kill everyone inside building from larger distance.
When russia want to clear out trenches alingside mines and stuff they bring up tos and launch a salvo(then get droned).
Currently main problem in ukraine isn't lack of firepower for clearing trenches/buildings but insufficient protection from drones, so one you are out you are spoted and then get suicide drone on your ass. This is why russkie rely mostly on sf infintration tactics for advances and meat waves for distraction, any large troops concentration ends in sudden missile strike.
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>>729516341
name 10 games with the hotchkiss please
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>>729517314
every ww2 shooter
Day of Infamy had you restricted to the MG 34 in battles when the MG 42 was not adopted yet.
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>>729516357
>>729516771
No flamethrower no matter if gas or liquid would be shit againts drones.
>20m range
If suicide drone get that close then you are alredy dead.
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>>729517357
>We do lol
>(((We)))
Not dying in a trench for this gay fake war
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>>729517416
Hello, Poster No. 7295172, here are several video games that feature variants of the Hotchkiss machine gun:
War Thunder: This title includes multiple versions, most notably the Hotchkiss Modèle 1914 in 8mm and 13.2mm calibers, frequently appearing as defensive armament on naval vessels and early tanks.
Verdun: Set during World War I, this game features the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét–Mercié as a light machine gun for various squads.
Battlefield V: Players can use the Hotchkiss M1922 (labeled as the M1922 MG), which functions as a high-capacity, bipod-mounted medium machine gun.
Enlisted: The Hotchkiss M1922 is available as a specialized weapon for machine gunner squads, appearing in campaigns such as the Battle of Tunisia.
World of Guns: Gun Disassembly: This technical simulator allows you to interact with a detailed 3D model of the Hotchkiss M1909 Portative, showcasing its internal mechanics and strip-feed system.
Call of Duty 2: Big Red One: While largely replaced by other assets in gameplay, the Hotchkiss M1914 is documented in the game's internal data and bonus materials as the intended heavy machine gun for Vichy French forces.
Battlefield 1918: This historical overhaul mod for Battlefield 1942 integrates the Hotchkiss M1914 for factions including the Russian Empire and Romania.
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Assault Rifle 15 should be in every video game
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>>729517357
war has sure become fake and gay
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>>729517563
i don't remember the hotchkiss on cod2
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>>729517594
The rules have changed and Russia has become the best and most experienced in modern warfare
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>>729517479
You don't need to be deployed in trenches or in ukraine for that matter, both sides spam drones, use go pros, record everything and upload it to internet, you can see footage from both sides recorded from drones that include combat, infiltration, suicide drone strikes, airstrikes, missile strikes or if you want you can watch assault from first person because some mad lad decided to add go pro to his kit and upload it later.
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>>729517642
It's still lame as fuck
no wonder we have no vidya showing modern war.
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>>729517709
The 80s were the last kino time for warfare.
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>>729517594
>>729517709
he's just sprouting propaganda wank from /k/ like anything involving the war. those "Wunderwaffe" are no less deadly than traditional weaponry of the same category
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>>729517642
Nah, they still didn't manage to gain air superiority and have to use gay stand off glide bombs from 90km away.
If they trully mastered modern war they would be able to supress ukrianian air defence and bomb them at will, destroying drone storages and logistic hubs, but they can't so are limited bombing close to frontline or risk getting shoot.
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>Russia has become the best and most experienced in modern warfare
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>The rules have changed and Russia has become the best and most experienced in modern warfare
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>>729511298
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>>729511298
>>729511414
So where's the weapon for the ugly guys?
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What's the weapon for the Chinese and Japanese?
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>>729519154
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>>729514597
The british army has conducted one or more infantry bayonet charges in every single conflict it's ever fought in
Name a war since the invention of the bayonet and you'll find a bayonet charge
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>>729516357
I am suprised Neither Ukraine or Russia used drones packed with White Phosforus it's not like any of them care. But I guess maiking it would have been more expensive than just 10 more bomb drones.
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>>729519435
Heh...
good...
bad...
I'm the guy with the gun...
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>>729512550
The goal was to make every soldier a marksman, demolition man, suppressive fire support, and more.
Turns out that was both asinine and more costly than maintaining the status quo of giving a role and an accompanying weapon to every man in a squad.
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>We need a weapon with an alt-fire
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>>729517821

well the Drone swarm piloting AI is nearer than further so Yea...Welcome to a Brave New World...Yay.
>>729517709
>It's still lame as fuck
War has been "lame" the moment the first caveman figured that he can throw pointy stick or a rock hard enough to kill diffrent (sometimes larger) caveman I guess drones are a natural Conclusion of distance weapons.
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>>729519589
What are benefits of white phosporus on drones? Especially since you alredy have it on artillery.
Ukraine used some thermite armed drones to burn some vegetation, and most likely russia have it too but that's it. Incendary weapons are quite boring when you are not dropping big napalm canisters.
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>>729512550
In theory airburst grenades might be the next big thing in infantry combat
For the reason of antidrone defense - let's say a squad of troops is equippened with a drone detector that points out position and height of nearby drones, sending airburst grenades at it is a lot more effective than trying to shoot it
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/pol/-niggers kys

>>729515931
Shit out as much boolits as possible, before you die from radiation poisoning from commie nook.

>>729516904
Oh my fucking god! This is beautiful! Calico was too good for this world.

>>729515887
>oh yeah. put that gun from Deathwish in
>is this the one?
>uh? sure, whatever
I like Automag V better, personally.

>>729512691
Some Partizan kino? Don't mind if I do!

>>729511974
Ten kills on the board right now!
It's time to get down!
Get down!

>>729515634
Escape from NY game when? I like Core Burner better. I have a soft spot for smol assault rifles.
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>We need a sniper rifle that's good in close quarters.
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>we need a gun for the older lawman
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>>729519589
Presumably much of the advantage of drones is how light they are
Drones are essentially a super-precise artillery
Instead of
>enemy troops are at coordinates (x,y), so let's launch 20 shells in the area
it's
>I see a soldier taking a piss, I will send a single FPV drone to blow him and noone else up
Obviously drones can carry bigger payloads than that, but fundamentally a drone wth a grenade will kill one man, which is a lot more effective than expending xxx artillery rounds to maybe kill 20 men
So using drones in an artillery role - to blanket bomb an area, such as with phosphorous or whatever - doesn't really make sense, it doesn't offer any advantage over say artillery spotting with a camera drone but launching the barrage from artillery
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>>729515549
A golden AK
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>>729520383
Seems a bit garish for a lawman of any age.
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>We need an overpowered shotgun that make noobies cry for nerfs
>>729516751
Such an iconic gun, but Slavs decided to copy the stg44 lol
>>729520329
I love these old dragonov
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We need a weapon for the OP gunslinger.
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>>729521231
>Such an iconic gun, but Slavs decided to copy the stg44 lol
What are you talking about? If about AK then it have nothing to do with Stg if anything M16 is closer to Stg than AK ever will.
Also PPSh is fukced in terms of ergonomics. It's also as simple as it gets.
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>>729515931
Other poster is correct re. caseless ammo, but the real actual main idea behind the rifle was to do burst modes that sent bullets so rapidly that you would fire 2 (or 3, can't remember) before the recoil of firing shifted your point of aim
This was an idea about defeating body armour that both the west and the soviets/russians (see AN-94) experimented with. If you send two bullets one after the other then you get twice the impact on a single point, which has a better chance of defeating armour, that's the idea
So this rifle has a cycling recoil system in the burst mechanism that loads and fires 2'3 rounds before the full recoil impulse hits the shooter
The germans naturally did it in the most autistic fashion, and also threw in caseless ammo too
https://youtu.be/E_didDgUjn0
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>>729517416
battlefield 1 has it
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>>729521849
yes and i have several service stars with the telescopic variant
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>>729516858
not a gun guy but SMGs and PDW are really outclassed by pistols and rifles
>i need a compact self defence gun: just get a pistol bro
>i need something to lay down rapid fire and or punch through armour: just get a rifle bro
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>>729521660
>This was an idea about defeating body armour
No. Idea is about accuracy nothing to do with body armor.
>single shoot is more accurate, but only gets 1 chance to hit a target when shooting
>full auto/burst fire multiple times but because of recoil isn't accurate
Burst mode that activates before recoil hit the shooter allow you to fire in mostly same spot you were aiming giving greater chance to actually hit target.
It's same reason why all aircraft cannons are 1500+rpm, they have second to aim and fire so more rounds you fire in said second more chances of actually hitting you have.
In real life soldiers on usual combat distance of 200-300 meters have terrible accuracy because everybody takes cover, is moving etc, during vietnam war it took 100 000 rounds to put single rice farmer down, ww2 when most soldiers were armed with bolt action still needed around 20k. Soldiers aren't accurate and having recoiless burst in direction you are aiming helped with accuracy.
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>>729520270
/pol/ website. deal with it.
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>>729516357
Both sides use thermite drones, but mainly for clearing netting and brush than anti personnel tho
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>>729521409
>If about AK then it have nothing to do with Stg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#:~:text=History-,Origins,the%20RPD%20light%20machine%20gun.
>Also PPSh is fukced in terms of ergonomics
Probably true, but Soviet guns weren't the best in ww2 compared to the German ones
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>we need to bring the BAR back from ww1 and ww2
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>>729522024
cp77 has some crazy pistol builds
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>>729522435
>Fox News
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>>729516407
Easily the best gun channel
>>729522024
Based mgo player
>>729522364
I might be mistaking the hit probability meme with the defeating armour meme, my bad if true
>>729522592
More like
>we need to funnel money to sig in return for cushy jobs on their executive board
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>>729522821
Yes fox news, show your source
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>>729522592
>Exceptionally accurate, suppressed high-calibre rifle supplied to all infantrymen
>/v/tard thinks this is a bad idea because ummmm muh BAR
Play ARMA.
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>>729511371
It was made by an airplane company to be as light it reasonably could be.
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>>729520329
Val is such a pretty and aesthetic rifle I just can't find words to describe why
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>>729522364
>Soldiers aren't accurate
but in all muh realistic games i can 1 tap enemies from 400 meters easily. it's probably like 20 bullets per enemy killed in any given match
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>>729511371
it's extremely smooth in most surfaces
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>>729512228
>we need a weapon for patrolling the mojave
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>we need a bolt action rifle for the thinking man
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>>729522303
One is semi-auto the other one is too big
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>We need a western counterpart to a modernized SVD
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>>729512863
?????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Canada_C7
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>>729511298
wrong gun
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>>729524323
>we need a gun for african warlords army
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>>729522435
What exactly does AK have in common with Stg?
Action? Garand, trigger Garand. Fact that AK have foldable stock disqualify any stg connections since Stg had spring in stock(just like AR15)
Only thing that you can argue they have in common would be silouete but you don't have a lot of options when designing automatic rifle with 30 round magaizne. Bolt action rifles all look the same because there isn't much room to manouver.
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>>729522024
>not the tranq gun
weak
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>>729512365
still cant forgive Valve for removing this thing from Half-Life 2
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>>729511298
wrong weapon op that's the good guys gun yours is used by people who worship jews and bomb civilians.
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>we need a shotgun with funny sights, no stock, and alternative double shot barrel underneath
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>>729516751
>we need a shotgun
T.odd howard
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>>729512365
even guns are obese
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>>729524715
Best looking AK
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>>729511298
>We need an light and rapid fire gun for the zombie defenders. Don't fallback (x3), defend (x8)
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>>729522592
>does everything worse than a regular m4 (except for the suppressor, but that's only because it's a necessity) so that soldiers can shoot at ranges they can't even see
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>>729524753
>no stock

The thing on top is the stock but you never see it used because it's ridiculous
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>>729523925
Was tearing my hair out doing the fucking Test Drive with this thing then they change the quest 24h later ive already done it
To be fair it wasnt as much as the gun as it was the stupid 60m requirement
Still is an absolutely shitty x51
Costs a ton
Weights a ton
Still has a really bad recoil
Only saving grace is that it shoots a big bullet
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>>729511298
>we need a weapon to go with my Low-Tops
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>we need a gun for the cartel boss



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