lol

It had small chance ages ago, but android filled that gap. Too late now.

I wonder if that or MS will fix Windows first
>>729515898
It had 0 chance until Vulkan and DXVK.

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>>729515541
shill me on why i should use windows instead of linux? my main biggest concern is the whole dx12 shit since im getting a new pc next month with a 5070ti/9800x3d. i wanna try out some modern games for the fun of it but losing ~20% is alot.

>fotm meme distro #892498742
when will you niggers learn

>>729515964
I feel like Windows is inherently unfixable. Microsoft is supposedly working on a version with a bunch of its systems gutted but who knows what side effects that will have. If it's functionally no different from regular Windows then it begs the question of why are there so many background services that aren't doing anything.

I've been thinking of going back and giving Linux another chance (for the umpteenth time) but I am not sold on the whole Bazzite thing, especially the whole immutable part. how immutable is it? how disruptive it is outside of gaming (light software development, running a small local server and general daily driver stuff like browsing the web/watching videos)

P.S.
Holy fuck I came back from 4chan hiatus and they added this retarded ass captcha fuck you. and why do you demand it after every singular post?!

>>729516443
It's not disruptive at all. I've been using Bazzite for a long time and I layered some packages using rpm-ostree, install 99% of my software as flatpak/appimage, and run a bunch of Docker services (jellyfin, lanraragi, nginx proxy manager) with podman.
If you want to develop software then get the Bazzite DX version that comes with all that stuff too: https://dev.bazzite.gg/ or alternatively use Distrobox to set up a dev environment with whatever you need on whatever distro you need, it'll just have a very minor performance impact.

The new captcha is to stop bots/autosolvers.

>>729516443
>especially the whole immutable part. how immutable is it?
I don't use Bazzite, but as I understand it, "immutable" means either that you cannot install programs with the package manager or that any such changes you make will be reverted next time the system updates. Packages not supplied by Bazzite would have to be installed using Flatpak, or via portable executables e.g. AppImages installed in $HOME.
If that level of idiot-proofing doesn't appeal to you, then I'd say just use another distro. I see a fuckload of CachyOS recommendations but I can't vouch for it myself. Another common recommendation is Mint and that's what I'm using right now. The obvious drawback of point-release distributions like Mint is that packages will be outdated, but the only time this really matters outside of a compulsive need to updoot is that you will occasionally not have the dependencies needed to compile the latest version of something, and the only example I know at the moment is gamescope which (last time I checked) requires a newer wayland-server package than Mint has.

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>>729515541
Does sunshine stream host work on it? for some reason it nukes Fedora 43 whenever I install it
>t. windows drive died a week ago

>>729515541
no Fortnite = no buy

>>729516814
how about AUR? AUR is love, AUR is life.

>The new captcha is to stop bots/autosolvers.
its excessive as fuck. and for every goddamn post? just authenticate once and give me 10 posts. and dont do these annoying question that force me to go back and forth to find the most amount of squares.

>>729516986
>If that level of idiot-proofing doesn't appeal to you
no it does not, seems wasteful.
I guess I'll go back to the tried and true beloved Arch.

>>729517310
>buy

>>729515541
Bazzite is a bit of a meme distro.
>>729515898
>Linux on ARM and Lepton are going to strangle Poodroid and we can finally stop pretending that it was in any way adequate as a phone OS, just because Crapple was the alternative
Can't wait.
>>729515964
>I wonder if that or MS will fix Windows first
Before that will happen, Copyright will be repealed and the "community of definitely not Microsoft engineers" that infiltrated ReactOS can stop trying to memoryhole all those source code leaks of the good Windows versions as "fruit of the poisonous tree".
>>729516443
Your choices for distros are Debian and Arch, Bazzite will probably interfere unless you use flatpaks, Docker or other containerized stuff.
>Captcha
The captcha is great, but it can be incredibly shit under certain circumstances and require you to solve a boatload of captchas with more images for some reason.
>>729516986
I would not recommend CachyOS. It really just offers a live-installer and WM dotfiles, everything else it offers should be installed on top of a normal Arch installation (It's on the AUR and you can add the repos to your pacman otherwise, or just use the script that is in the CachyOS install guide to add them), so that troubleshooting is simpler and can follow the recommendations given for running the software on Arch instead of clashing with some esoteric and unspecified optimization enabled by CachyOS.

>>729517241
>for some reason it nukes Fedora 43 whenever I install it
the official rpms?

>>729517345
AUR is for Arch, Bazzite is based on Fedora.
If you want AUR then you're better off using CachyOS, personally I haven't seen a need for it nor do I want to trust my PC to scripts randoms on the internet made.

It has to be per post or else spammers will abuse it, that said the presentation definitely needs improving (if you use 'ecker it displays all the options at the same time and you just click the one that is the answer, no need to go back and forth).

>>729516347
>shill me on why i should use windows instead of linux?
You should not.
Everything after Win7 has been worse and worse spyware trash, with 11 being literally THE most dangerous operating system / "service" I've used the past 35 years.

If you are still somehow chained to MS' ecosystem, use W10 IOT LTSC Enterprise edition 2021, and hack & crack it to shut up.

>>729516347
If you have nvidia card, you should not use Linux. The experience is not good. You'll need to use Windows 11.

>>729517556
>AUR is for Arch, Bazzite is based on Fedora.
yeah but you can use on other distros (not recommended but you can)
>If you want AUR then you're better off using CachyOS
Is it any good? whats makes it better than Arch?
>personally I haven't seen a need for it nor do I want to trust my PC to scripts randoms on the internet made.
Its comfortable. easier than compiling stuff from source when its not on the official repositories. you can just review it for anything sus.

>>729515898
android is going to get replaced by arm linux if anything
can't fucking wait for a decent snapdragon device with some arch fork on it

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>>729515541
Granted!
But in the form of android, as now most kids do not know how to use mouse,keyboards or controllers because they only use phones!

Thanks for playing twisted metal!

>>729517390
I dunno, I just followed the instructions at
>https://docs.lizardbyte.dev/projects/sunshine/latest/md_docs_2getting__started.html

>>729517959
Bullshit. I've used Mint since 2020, first with GTX 1060, and now with RTX 3060, and it's been smooth sailing.

>>729518539
Whatever you say, dog. I have a 3060 Ti, so you can't lie to me. Make sure you don't try to use smooth motion in MPV with vulkan lmao.
Or maybe Mint has such an outdated driver that it still works, who knows. But then other things are broken.

>>729518539
At least the 40-50 series lose huge amounts of FPS to the point that a 9070XT blows past the 5090 in many games.

>>729518447
is your fedora install fucked after adding the repo or installing from it? similar to the github release, the copr seems to lack f43 specific builds

>>729515898
>complete utter google dependence where theyll also force AI onto you
what are you smoking dumb pajeet

>>729518614
>Make sure you don't try to use smooth motion in MPV
I have no fucking idea what any of that even means. You're using some fucking image interpolation, on PC??

>>729518696
Not my problem. Also, I never buy GPUs that are over 250€.

>>729518539
Please understand, slightly higher performance on linux is all amdrones have left

>>729518696
All nvidia cards lose a lot of performance and have issues with frame pacing, specially if you run a game for longer periods of time. However, bad performance is the least of nvidias problems on Linux. So much crap is actually broken. For example, with latest driver spectacle in KDE can't record screen anymore. It used to work on older drivers btw.

>>729518905
>USE CASE????
How about you try alt tabbing out of a game (not sure exactly which games are affected, but frostpunk and Tarkov are with driver 590), see how that works for you. Or is your driver is too old to cause the memory overflow? How about running gamescope? Can you do that without using workarounds? Or is your driver too new for that?
You can keep tooting "use case?" all you want, but the nvidia drivers are shit. If you're lucky enough to be able to ignore whatever issues the current driver or whatever driver you have installed has in your specific use case then good for you. Not everyone has the same exact use case for their PC, though. And Nvidia cards are a much better product on Windows 11.

>>729519049
no matter your os choice you can't escape nvidia's vibecoded drivers
all so you can generate soulless images and jeet made games

>>729518812
Installing, I'll change distro then if there's no 43 ver

>>729515541
bazzite sounds indian

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>>729519396
wrong

>>729515898
android is collapsing, the moment arm linux becomes viable triple digit phone users will switch to it, it's locking itself down to appletoy level but it lacks the homosexual appeal appletoys have
only jeets and ultrapoor goyim will be left

My experience with both nvidia and AMD as of recently is the following:
>Nvidia
Janky on Wayland, sometimes it shows random desktop artifacts
Can't use my highest refresh rate + adaptive sync without constant monitor blanking out issues (that is with both DP and HDMI)
On wayland, tweaks are required to make firefox-wayland scroll without framedrops, mainly locking idle clocks
Buggy gamescope
HDR does only effectively work on KDE plasma, broken on GNOME
"Undervolting" is garbage
DX12 performance is indeed very subpar
However, Davinci Resolve, Darktable and other programs that benefit from hardware GPU acceleration (including through WINE like affinity) work fine and fast without headaches
>AMD
Perfectly fine on wayland
Can use my highest refresh rate and adaptive sync, however brightness flickering is somehow more noticeable, only DP can be used -and- there's now blanking issues when using the second best fixed refresh rate available (which is 2/3 of the max refresh rate and for some reason doesn't break when VRR reaches that range)
Firefox scrolls and works smoothly
Noticeable input lag that goes away with gamescope (haven't still found out why), which works perfectly fine unless you alt+f4
HDR works on GNOME as well and exposes a color resolution setting (8bit/10bit etc) on Plasma
Undervolting works the same way it does on Windows, stupid easy
DX12 performance still subpar but much more tolerable
Need to install extra shit to be able to use some applications with OpenCL support, performance is worse, and Affinity through WINE is buggy and borderline unusable with it

Anyone here using openSUSE? Or is that dodged specifically for any reasons?

>>729518539
Whenever the fact that nvidia sucks niggerdick on Linux is mentioned I see disingenuous little shits like you crawling out pretending there are zero issues, kill yourself you vile cunt

>>729519948
Android is Linux

My experience with CachyOS and multiple Fedora based distros is that on CachyOS I could apply a few fixes on the Arch wiki to get my gamepad to work just fine, and I could not after 2 days figure how the fuck to get it to work on anything Fedora even fiddling with modules that weren't supposed to be installed that were supposed to fix the issue.
I now judge every distro upon how long it takes for me to make my chinese no name gamepad work properly, that's my benchmark.

>>729517959
>you need windows
No I don't

>>729520480
NTA but I got hybrid graphics working on my laptop easily enough in gentoo

>>729520605
xbox is windows
ps5 is bsd
they still suck niggerdick since they're strangled with several layers of retardation and enshittification
if android was truly spiritually linux i wouldn't have to utterly desecrate it to get root access

>>729519389
you can still try installing the f42 rpm manually, or flatpak

>>729515541
Bazzite might genuinely do it. It's enough of a meme that it's gained name recognition amongst the average PC g*mer, and that's the only thing that matters. It doesn't matter how usable it is compared to other distros, what strengths or weaknesses it has; all that matters is name recognition, and it's got it.

>>729519948
>it's locking itself down to appletoy level
I genuinely don't understand what caused them to do that shit. It will just result in people moving to some alternative, for example graphene.

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>>729516347
If you want to finance and facilitate Microsoft's botfarm with your hardware and bandwidth, stick to Windows -- it may earn you good goy points for the upcoming, shortlived, fake, gay and retarded technocracy.

>>729519948
>it's locking itself down to appletoy level
They are? Why?

How's wayland? Is it still struggling with compatibility?

>>729521549
because google
they want to kill sideloading so they can have a complete monopoly

>>729520764
I use Nvidia on my Linux system (until my AMD card arrives), and the issue has never been getting the card to run. The problems with Nvidia range from programs working really poorly and limiting the way a user can use their computer to awful performance. The card will work and run games, that was never in question. It's just a miserable user experience, specially if you do more with your computer than the most basic web browsing and gaming.

>>729520824
>xbox is pc windows
Yes
>ps5 is bsd
No
>pol tard baby speak
No
>if android was spiritually Linux
Stfu you fucking tard. If you weren't so stupid and poor you'd know an immutable rootFS is. SteamOS does the same fucking thing
App armor and SELinux and an immutable rootFS make the operating system secure from idiots like yourself

I use CachyOS, but i don't game on it. I run a WindowsVM using kvm and virtio with gpu passthrough of my 4090 and game in that instead, and use an rx 6400 to drive my Linux, as well as cpu pinning and ram hugepages. I then have a keybind that switches betwen them smoothly. That way i only lose maybe a couple frames compared to bare metal Widnows, compared to 20-30% lik you do gaming on Linux with an Nvidia card, also don't have to deal with the problems Linux has with using an Nvidia card generally like issues with sleep and such

>>729521664
>sideloading
Please don't use corporate lingo, there's a word for this, "installing".

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>>729518614
> so you can't lie to me.
On same card
It works fine
Nouveau has worked fine for years.
Last time I had problems with it was 2015 when it was objectively dogshit and would destroy motherboards. This was caused by a few complainers in their team who were kicked out after their changes destroyed people's hardware.

If you keep using Windows past that, you deserve to be raped by microsoft.

>But then other things are broken.
Winiggers don't have the right to tell that to anyone, anymore.

>>729521690
Okay. I'll bite.
What do you do with your computer?

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>Mint outlasted them

Should the steam overlay and recording work on non-steam shortcuts? It doesn't work for me on Wayland/GNOME (briefly tried KDE also) and was wondering if that's a compatibility thing or a missing feature still

>>729521785
Pop still works great.
I'm really tempted to snatch up a System 76 laptop before they hike prices, too

Before it made no sense since their hardware was 4-5 times what their competitors were, now they're actually on par.

Anytime I read Bazz I think of Concord.

>>729521690
>specially if you do more with your computer than the most basic web browsing and gaming.
yeah, that's the problem with everyone saying gaming on linux is perfect and nvidia is totally fine on it, as well as recommending distros like Mint for everyone. Mint is great if all you do is browse the web and casual light gaming, and Linux as a whole is great for gaming if all you do is boot up a game and running it as is. But for anyone who wants to mod or use third party tools that only exists on windows it's just not great to game on yet, and for gaming you should use a distro that gets new features fast, not like Mint which is always half a year behind

>>729517959
Amusing the bass widows experience is worse than all the bugs with nvidia on Linux

>>729521549
Now that Android is mass adopted to almost 75% of people's phones, Google is in the "How do we make loads of money from this" phase.
Even if 10% of android users drop due to their shit, that still leaves a huge group of suckers to extract money from.

>>729521704
>stay on android goy, it's for your own good!!!, it's the same as any linux, i promise goy!!!
fuck off
this retarded nitpicky atittude is why android fucking sucks

>>729521729
True, sneaky shits trying to twist words to make their obsessive control of you sound like a blessing and a gift

>>729521549
Google ditched the "Don't be Evil" motto.
There's a reason the Google avoids GPL like the plague, and it's because permissive licenses let them switch to fully proprietary licenses whenever they want and just generally create opaque extensions.

>>729522004
I use gentoo and macOS
Take your strawman argument and shove it up your micropenis
Some retarded anon said Linux would replace android
Android is Linux
Now go eat your own cum

>>729515541
*SteamOS is the future of gaming. No one gives a fuck about the rest.

>>729521664
they rolled it back but now that it's known they'll probably try again when it cools down.

>>729521549
Because they think they can make more money this way.
It's why they made Google Search shit. More money and nothing is going to happen if they make it worse

>>729522237
you can pretend like all the google shitware doesn't fundamentally transform it all you want
the user experience doesn't lie no matter how much you think this is just about the kernel

>>729522348
SteamOS is made for the deck, you can get everything else it does on any other arch distro. The only reason steamos is its own thing is because of integration with the deck, which doesn't make sense on a desktop. You can have the same experience right now on arch, it's not some magic thing on its own. Valve is a huge reason why gaming is good on linux now, but it's not because of steamos itself

>>729522358
It's still Linux you retarded faggot

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>>729521690
>Linux as a whole is great for gaming if all you do is boot up a game and running it as is. But for anyone who wants to mod or use third party tools that only exists on windows it's just not great to game on yet,
Only people who literally don't understand how WINE and Proton work say this shit.

WINE and Proton make a folder tree just like any other folder tree that you can just navigate to and run these programs. If you say it's 'not for anyone who mods' you don't have ANY business telling people what Linux is like because you're clueless how it works. Here's the Titanium Wars mod for Dawn of War Dark Crusade, a mod made 10 years ago that didn't have anything Linux in mind when it was made, and the mod doesn't care.

>>729522783
Yeah I know it's super annoying hearing people parrot entirely unfounded opinions.

wouldn't that be nice?

steam leveraging the aspect of making linux gaming a viable choice, and google leveraging people away from the necessity of microsoft office being mandatory by having google docs, sheets, etc.

for the first time in a long time, there is an opportunity for a large paradigm shift in the OS space in the 'regular' person space

Linux is only for amd gpu's, if you use an nvidia gpu you're throwing away performance. Unless all you play are games that are old enough to hit your monitor refresh rate anyway or is hard capped to 60fps or something

>>729522668
it's a really shitty and limited distro of it, sure
no one cares about its kernel when it's fundamentally different in functionality to the collective of what you'll find on x86

>>729522874
I don’t really know if Google taking over the monopoly on office programs is a win

>>729522976
Now that you can see reason go have fun with copy v86 emulator
Experience every OS in a browser
Try not to crash out when it captures your mouse input just read what the screen says

>>729523137
i don't care about whatever gay point you're trying to make
the fact is that android is so fundamentally different from x86 linux that valve needs to make a translation layer to run android shit and i need to spend an hour to root my phone, something i have on any x86 linux by default
i want arch linux or some fork of it on arm, not the shared ancestor shitware that is android

>>729523438
You're too stupid to do that
Install gentoo faggot

>>729521837
please respond

>>729521837
What the fuck are you actually trying to do

I'm tired of this drivel.
Show us the game you're currently playing on linux. This is not /g/.

>>729519948
>will switch to it
yeah like they switched to Ubuntu and WinPhone.
People will never get away from Android as long as they control a market of one gorillion apps

>It's why they made Google Search shit.
that's such a dumb nonsensical assumption, it doesn't even qualify as a conspiracy.
Why exactly would they do this?

Google search is getting worse because the internet is monopolized, normalfags only care for a few trustworthy sites and most of them being social media.
Every site is starting to pay wall and account wall content, making it more difficult for search spiders.
Search engines constantly deteriorate as more information and sites go up, getting 10x worse with AI content.

>>729523723
that's the thing
you CAN'T feasibly switch to arm linux now without major concessions, it's all proprietary blobs and the few freetard blobs are way too expensive for what they actually offer

dumb question. since modern pc cases only have 2x2 bay slots. i got a 4tb NVME as my game drive. is it preferred to partition your linux install or just slap the whole 4tb onto it.

>>729521713
I was thinking of doing something like this a while ago (since I have a spare 6600XT and I now use a 9070xt) but I don't know how this handles latency, multiplayer games, and display features that are already a bit janky on linux (VRR, HDR, high refresh rates).

>>729523723
>freetard blobs
freetard phones*

>>729523870
Just have your just works distro partition the drive for you
Jesus tap dancing Christ you're supposed to ask for help when you're stuck not for something you were supposed to read when you installed windows let alone linux

>>729523705
Add emulators and freeware to steam and use the game recording feature

>>729523870
it really doesn't matter but having it all one drive would be more convenient

>>729524130
Dumb thing but maybe try gamescope?
I add non-steam games to steam all the time on the Deck and the gamescope session is... well, gamescope. So I'm guessing that's what should do the trick?

>>729524130
Yes it should just work but Wayland might be fucking with you. I normally have Wayland and x11 installed just because this is common as developers hard pivot to suddenly updating Linux packages.
For instance ppsspp and pcxs2 both got tons of bugs when the deck was popular.
What distro? What actually happens other than "not work" are you using OBS?

>>729523870
an ssd's lifetime depends on its free space since it shuffles data around to even out the wear
if you split it in half it has less room to do that

>>729521767
I play video games and sometimes alt tab out of them, in more games than 1 that will either crash the game or crash it and dma my ram straight to 100%. I also sometimes record my screen with spectacle, which is the KDE built in screen recorder. That is not working on current driver, and I don't want to install old driver.
Occasionally I watch videos on MPV, and I'm limited to what settings I can use. For example, using vulkan will freeze the UI and make the program unusable. Mangohud keeps segfaulting in certain conditions. I'm sure I could think of more if I really wanted to spend more time on this.

>>729523717
>Show
I would, but my kid is watching YouTube on my Linux machine, and I don't keep screenshots on my phone.
You'll have to take my word that the last thing I played was StarCraft (not Remastered).

>>729524615
What distro and can you try to replicate it on x11? Your Wayland setup needs extra stuff and my crystal ball broke.