lol

It had small chance ages ago, but android filled that gap. Too late now.

I wonder if that or MS will fix Windows first
>>729515898
It had 0 chance until Vulkan and DXVK.

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>>729515541
shill me on why i should use windows instead of linux? my main biggest concern is the whole dx12 shit since im getting a new pc next month with a 5070ti/9800x3d. i wanna try out some modern games for the fun of it but losing ~20% is alot.

>fotm meme distro #892498742
when will you niggers learn

>>729515964
I feel like Windows is inherently unfixable. Microsoft is supposedly working on a version with a bunch of its systems gutted but who knows what side effects that will have. If it's functionally no different from regular Windows then it begs the question of why are there so many background services that aren't doing anything.

I've been thinking of going back and giving Linux another chance (for the umpteenth time) but I am not sold on the whole Bazzite thing, especially the whole immutable part. how immutable is it? how disruptive it is outside of gaming (light software development, running a small local server and general daily driver stuff like browsing the web/watching videos)

P.S.
Holy fuck I came back from 4chan hiatus and they added this retarded ass captcha fuck you. and why do you demand it after every singular post?!

>>729516443
It's not disruptive at all. I've been using Bazzite for a long time and I layered some packages using rpm-ostree, install 99% of my software as flatpak/appimage, and run a bunch of Docker services (jellyfin, lanraragi, nginx proxy manager) with podman.
If you want to develop software then get the Bazzite DX version that comes with all that stuff too: https://dev.bazzite.gg/ or alternatively use Distrobox to set up a dev environment with whatever you need on whatever distro you need, it'll just have a very minor performance impact.

The new captcha is to stop bots/autosolvers.

>>729516443
>especially the whole immutable part. how immutable is it?
I don't use Bazzite, but as I understand it, "immutable" means either that you cannot install programs with the package manager or that any such changes you make will be reverted next time the system updates. Packages not supplied by Bazzite would have to be installed using Flatpak, or via portable executables e.g. AppImages installed in $HOME.
If that level of idiot-proofing doesn't appeal to you, then I'd say just use another distro. I see a fuckload of CachyOS recommendations but I can't vouch for it myself. Another common recommendation is Mint and that's what I'm using right now. The obvious drawback of point-release distributions like Mint is that packages will be outdated, but the only time this really matters outside of a compulsive need to updoot is that you will occasionally not have the dependencies needed to compile the latest version of something, and the only example I know at the moment is gamescope which (last time I checked) requires a newer wayland-server package than Mint has.

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>>729515541
Does sunshine stream host work on it? for some reason it nukes Fedora 43 whenever I install it
>t. windows drive died a week ago

>>729515541
no Fortnite = no buy

>>729516814
how about AUR? AUR is love, AUR is life.

>The new captcha is to stop bots/autosolvers.
its excessive as fuck. and for every goddamn post? just authenticate once and give me 10 posts. and dont do these annoying question that force me to go back and forth to find the most amount of squares.

>>729516986
>If that level of idiot-proofing doesn't appeal to you
no it does not, seems wasteful.
I guess I'll go back to the tried and true beloved Arch.

>>729517310
>buy

>>729515541
Bazzite is a bit of a meme distro.
>>729515898
>Linux on ARM and Lepton are going to strangle Poodroid and we can finally stop pretending that it was in any way adequate as a phone OS, just because Crapple was the alternative
Can't wait.
>>729515964
>I wonder if that or MS will fix Windows first
Before that will happen, Copyright will be repealed and the "community of definitely not Microsoft engineers" that infiltrated ReactOS can stop trying to memoryhole all those source code leaks of the good Windows versions as "fruit of the poisonous tree".
>>729516443
Your choices for distros are Debian and Arch, Bazzite will probably interfere unless you use flatpaks, Docker or other containerized stuff.
>Captcha
The captcha is great, but it can be incredibly shit under certain circumstances and require you to solve a boatload of captchas with more images for some reason.
>>729516986
I would not recommend CachyOS. It really just offers a live-installer and WM dotfiles, everything else it offers should be installed on top of a normal Arch installation (It's on the AUR and you can add the repos to your pacman otherwise, or just use the script that is in the CachyOS install guide to add them), so that troubleshooting is simpler and can follow the recommendations given for running the software on Arch instead of clashing with some esoteric and unspecified optimization enabled by CachyOS.

>>729517241
>for some reason it nukes Fedora 43 whenever I install it
the official rpms?

>>729517345
AUR is for Arch, Bazzite is based on Fedora.
If you want AUR then you're better off using CachyOS, personally I haven't seen a need for it nor do I want to trust my PC to scripts randoms on the internet made.

It has to be per post or else spammers will abuse it, that said the presentation definitely needs improving (if you use 'ecker it displays all the options at the same time and you just click the one that is the answer, no need to go back and forth).

>>729516347
>shill me on why i should use windows instead of linux?
You should not.
Everything after Win7 has been worse and worse spyware trash, with 11 being literally THE most dangerous operating system / "service" I've used the past 35 years.

If you are still somehow chained to MS' ecosystem, use W10 IOT LTSC Enterprise edition 2021, and hack & crack it to shut up.

>>729516347
If you have nvidia card, you should not use Linux. The experience is not good. You'll need to use Windows 11.

>>729517556
>AUR is for Arch, Bazzite is based on Fedora.
yeah but you can use on other distros (not recommended but you can)
>If you want AUR then you're better off using CachyOS
Is it any good? whats makes it better than Arch?
>personally I haven't seen a need for it nor do I want to trust my PC to scripts randoms on the internet made.
Its comfortable. easier than compiling stuff from source when its not on the official repositories. you can just review it for anything sus.

>>729515898
android is going to get replaced by arm linux if anything
can't fucking wait for a decent snapdragon device with some arch fork on it

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>>729515541
Granted!
But in the form of android, as now most kids do not know how to use mouse,keyboards or controllers because they only use phones!

Thanks for playing twisted metal!

>>729517390
I dunno, I just followed the instructions at
>https://docs.lizardbyte.dev/projects/sunshine/latest/md_docs_2getting__started.html

>>729517959
Bullshit. I've used Mint since 2020, first with GTX 1060, and now with RTX 3060, and it's been smooth sailing.

>>729518539
Whatever you say, dog. I have a 3060 Ti, so you can't lie to me. Make sure you don't try to use smooth motion in MPV with vulkan lmao.
Or maybe Mint has such an outdated driver that it still works, who knows. But then other things are broken.

>>729518539
At least the 40-50 series lose huge amounts of FPS to the point that a 9070XT blows past the 5090 in many games.

>>729518447
is your fedora install fucked after adding the repo or installing from it? similar to the github release, the copr seems to lack f43 specific builds

>>729515898
>complete utter google dependence where theyll also force AI onto you
what are you smoking dumb pajeet

>>729518614
>Make sure you don't try to use smooth motion in MPV
I have no fucking idea what any of that even means. You're using some fucking image interpolation, on PC??

>>729518696
Not my problem. Also, I never buy GPUs that are over 250€.

>>729518539
Please understand, slightly higher performance on linux is all amdrones have left

>>729518696
All nvidia cards lose a lot of performance and have issues with frame pacing, specially if you run a game for longer periods of time. However, bad performance is the least of nvidias problems on Linux. So much crap is actually broken. For example, with latest driver spectacle in KDE can't record screen anymore. It used to work on older drivers btw.

>>729518905
>USE CASE????
How about you try alt tabbing out of a game (not sure exactly which games are affected, but frostpunk and Tarkov are with driver 590), see how that works for you. Or is your driver is too old to cause the memory overflow? How about running gamescope? Can you do that without using workarounds? Or is your driver too new for that?
You can keep tooting "use case?" all you want, but the nvidia drivers are shit. If you're lucky enough to be able to ignore whatever issues the current driver or whatever driver you have installed has in your specific use case then good for you. Not everyone has the same exact use case for their PC, though. And Nvidia cards are a much better product on Windows 11.

>>729519049
no matter your os choice you can't escape nvidia's vibecoded drivers
all so you can generate soulless images and jeet made games

>>729518812
Installing, I'll change distro then if there's no 43 ver

>>729515541
bazzite sounds indian

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>>729519396
wrong

>>729515898
android is collapsing, the moment arm linux becomes viable triple digit phone users will switch to it, it's locking itself down to appletoy level but it lacks the homosexual appeal appletoys have
only jeets and ultrapoor goyim will be left

My experience with both nvidia and AMD as of recently is the following:
>Nvidia
Janky on Wayland, sometimes it shows random desktop artifacts
Can't use my highest refresh rate + adaptive sync without constant monitor blanking out issues (that is with both DP and HDMI)
On wayland, tweaks are required to make firefox-wayland scroll without framedrops, mainly locking idle clocks
Buggy gamescope
HDR does only effectively work on KDE plasma, broken on GNOME
"Undervolting" is garbage
DX12 performance is indeed very subpar
However, Davinci Resolve, Darktable and other programs that benefit from hardware GPU acceleration (including through WINE like affinity) work fine and fast without headaches
>AMD
Perfectly fine on wayland
Can use my highest refresh rate and adaptive sync, however brightness flickering is somehow more noticeable, only DP can be used -and- there's now blanking issues when using the second best fixed refresh rate available (which is 2/3 of the max refresh rate and for some reason doesn't break when VRR reaches that range)
Firefox scrolls and works smoothly
Noticeable input lag that goes away with gamescope (haven't still found out why), which works perfectly fine unless you alt+f4
HDR works on GNOME as well and exposes a color resolution setting (8bit/10bit etc) on Plasma
Undervolting works the same way it does on Windows, stupid easy
DX12 performance still subpar but much more tolerable
Need to install extra shit to be able to use some applications with OpenCL support, performance is worse, and Affinity through WINE is buggy and borderline unusable with it

Anyone here using openSUSE? Or is that dodged specifically for any reasons?

>>729518539
Whenever the fact that nvidia sucks niggerdick on Linux is mentioned I see disingenuous little shits like you crawling out pretending there are zero issues, kill yourself you vile cunt

>>729519948
Android is Linux

My experience with CachyOS and multiple Fedora based distros is that on CachyOS I could apply a few fixes on the Arch wiki to get my gamepad to work just fine, and I could not after 2 days figure how the fuck to get it to work on anything Fedora even fiddling with modules that weren't supposed to be installed that were supposed to fix the issue.
I now judge every distro upon how long it takes for me to make my chinese no name gamepad work properly, that's my benchmark.

>>729517959
>you need windows
No I don't

>>729520480
NTA but I got hybrid graphics working on my laptop easily enough in gentoo

>>729520605
xbox is windows
ps5 is bsd
they still suck niggerdick since they're strangled with several layers of retardation and enshittification
if android was truly spiritually linux i wouldn't have to utterly desecrate it to get root access

>>729519389
you can still try installing the f42 rpm manually, or flatpak

>>729515541
Bazzite might genuinely do it. It's enough of a meme that it's gained name recognition amongst the average PC g*mer, and that's the only thing that matters. It doesn't matter how usable it is compared to other distros, what strengths or weaknesses it has; all that matters is name recognition, and it's got it.

>>729519948
>it's locking itself down to appletoy level
I genuinely don't understand what caused them to do that shit. It will just result in people moving to some alternative, for example graphene.

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>>729516347
If you want to finance and facilitate Microsoft's botfarm with your hardware and bandwidth, stick to Windows -- it may earn you good goy points for the upcoming, shortlived, fake, gay and retarded technocracy.

>>729519948
>it's locking itself down to appletoy level
They are? Why?

How's wayland? Is it still struggling with compatibility?

>>729521549
because google
they want to kill sideloading so they can have a complete monopoly

>>729520764
I use Nvidia on my Linux system (until my AMD card arrives), and the issue has never been getting the card to run. The problems with Nvidia range from programs working really poorly and limiting the way a user can use their computer to awful performance. The card will work and run games, that was never in question. It's just a miserable user experience, specially if you do more with your computer than the most basic web browsing and gaming.

>>729520824
>xbox is pc windows
Yes
>ps5 is bsd
No
>pol tard baby speak
No
>if android was spiritually Linux
Stfu you fucking tard. If you weren't so stupid and poor you'd know an immutable rootFS is. SteamOS does the same fucking thing
App armor and SELinux and an immutable rootFS make the operating system secure from idiots like yourself

I use CachyOS, but i don't game on it. I run a WindowsVM using kvm and virtio with gpu passthrough of my 4090 and game in that instead, and use an rx 6400 to drive my Linux, as well as cpu pinning and ram hugepages. I then have a keybind that switches betwen them smoothly. That way i only lose maybe a couple frames compared to bare metal Widnows, compared to 20-30% lik you do gaming on Linux with an Nvidia card, also don't have to deal with the problems Linux has with using an Nvidia card generally like issues with sleep and such

>>729521664
>sideloading
Please don't use corporate lingo, there's a word for this, "installing".

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>>729518614
> so you can't lie to me.
On same card
It works fine
Nouveau has worked fine for years.
Last time I had problems with it was 2015 when it was objectively dogshit and would destroy motherboards. This was caused by a few complainers in their team who were kicked out after their changes destroyed people's hardware.

If you keep using Windows past that, you deserve to be raped by microsoft.

>But then other things are broken.
Winiggers don't have the right to tell that to anyone, anymore.

>>729521690
Okay. I'll bite.
What do you do with your computer?

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>Mint outlasted them

Should the steam overlay and recording work on non-steam shortcuts? It doesn't work for me on Wayland/GNOME (briefly tried KDE also) and was wondering if that's a compatibility thing or a missing feature still

>>729521785
Pop still works great.
I'm really tempted to snatch up a System 76 laptop before they hike prices, too

Before it made no sense since their hardware was 4-5 times what their competitors were, now they're actually on par.

Anytime I read Bazz I think of Concord.

>>729521690
>specially if you do more with your computer than the most basic web browsing and gaming.
yeah, that's the problem with everyone saying gaming on linux is perfect and nvidia is totally fine on it, as well as recommending distros like Mint for everyone. Mint is great if all you do is browse the web and casual light gaming, and Linux as a whole is great for gaming if all you do is boot up a game and running it as is. But for anyone who wants to mod or use third party tools that only exists on windows it's just not great to game on yet, and for gaming you should use a distro that gets new features fast, not like Mint which is always half a year behind

>>729517959
Amusing the bass widows experience is worse than all the bugs with nvidia on Linux

>>729521549
Now that Android is mass adopted to almost 75% of people's phones, Google is in the "How do we make loads of money from this" phase.
Even if 10% of android users drop due to their shit, that still leaves a huge group of suckers to extract money from.

>>729521704
>stay on android goy, it's for your own good!!!, it's the same as any linux, i promise goy!!!
fuck off
this retarded nitpicky atittude is why android fucking sucks

>>729521729
True, sneaky shits trying to twist words to make their obsessive control of you sound like a blessing and a gift

>>729521549
Google ditched the "Don't be Evil" motto.
There's a reason the Google avoids GPL like the plague, and it's because permissive licenses let them switch to fully proprietary licenses whenever they want and just generally create opaque extensions.

>>729522004
I use gentoo and macOS
Take your strawman argument and shove it up your micropenis
Some retarded anon said Linux would replace android
Android is Linux
Now go eat your own cum

>>729515541
*SteamOS is the future of gaming. No one gives a fuck about the rest.

>>729521664
they rolled it back but now that it's known they'll probably try again when it cools down.

>>729521549
Because they think they can make more money this way.
It's why they made Google Search shit. More money and nothing is going to happen if they make it worse

>>729522237
you can pretend like all the google shitware doesn't fundamentally transform it all you want
the user experience doesn't lie no matter how much you think this is just about the kernel

>>729522348
SteamOS is made for the deck, you can get everything else it does on any other arch distro. The only reason steamos is its own thing is because of integration with the deck, which doesn't make sense on a desktop. You can have the same experience right now on arch, it's not some magic thing on its own. Valve is a huge reason why gaming is good on linux now, but it's not because of steamos itself

>>729522358
It's still Linux you retarded faggot

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>>729521690
>Linux as a whole is great for gaming if all you do is boot up a game and running it as is. But for anyone who wants to mod or use third party tools that only exists on windows it's just not great to game on yet,
Only people who literally don't understand how WINE and Proton work say this shit.

WINE and Proton make a folder tree just like any other folder tree that you can just navigate to and run these programs. If you say it's 'not for anyone who mods' you don't have ANY business telling people what Linux is like because you're clueless how it works. Here's the Titanium Wars mod for Dawn of War Dark Crusade, a mod made 10 years ago that didn't have anything Linux in mind when it was made, and the mod doesn't care.

>>729522783
Yeah I know it's super annoying hearing people parrot entirely unfounded opinions.

wouldn't that be nice?

steam leveraging the aspect of making linux gaming a viable choice, and google leveraging people away from the necessity of microsoft office being mandatory by having google docs, sheets, etc.

for the first time in a long time, there is an opportunity for a large paradigm shift in the OS space in the 'regular' person space

Linux is only for amd gpu's, if you use an nvidia gpu you're throwing away performance. Unless all you play are games that are old enough to hit your monitor refresh rate anyway or is hard capped to 60fps or something

>>729522668
it's a really shitty and limited distro of it, sure
no one cares about its kernel when it's fundamentally different in functionality to the collective of what you'll find on x86

>>729522874
I don’t really know if Google taking over the monopoly on office programs is a win

>>729522976
Now that you can see reason go have fun with copy v86 emulator
Experience every OS in a browser
Try not to crash out when it captures your mouse input just read what the screen says

>>729523137
i don't care about whatever gay point you're trying to make
the fact is that android is so fundamentally different from x86 linux that valve needs to make a translation layer to run android shit and i need to spend an hour to root my phone, something i have on any x86 linux by default
i want arch linux or some fork of it on arm, not the shared ancestor shitware that is android

>>729523438
You're too stupid to do that
Install gentoo faggot

>>729521837
please respond

>>729521837
What the fuck are you actually trying to do

I'm tired of this drivel.
Show us the game you're currently playing on linux. This is not /g/.

>>729519948
>will switch to it
yeah like they switched to Ubuntu and WinPhone.
People will never get away from Android as long as they control a market of one gorillion apps

>It's why they made Google Search shit.
that's such a dumb nonsensical assumption, it doesn't even qualify as a conspiracy.
Why exactly would they do this?

Google search is getting worse because the internet is monopolized, normalfags only care for a few trustworthy sites and most of them being social media.
Every site is starting to pay wall and account wall content, making it more difficult for search spiders.
Search engines constantly deteriorate as more information and sites go up, getting 10x worse with AI content.

>>729523723
that's the thing
you CAN'T feasibly switch to arm linux now without major concessions, it's all proprietary blobs and the few freetard blobs are way too expensive for what they actually offer

dumb question. since modern pc cases only have 2x2 bay slots. i got a 4tb NVME as my game drive. is it preferred to partition your linux install or just slap the whole 4tb onto it.

>>729521713
I was thinking of doing something like this a while ago (since I have a spare 6600XT and I now use a 9070xt) but I don't know how this handles latency, multiplayer games, and display features that are already a bit janky on linux (VRR, HDR, high refresh rates).

>>729523723
>freetard blobs
freetard phones*

>>729523870
Just have your just works distro partition the drive for you
Jesus tap dancing Christ you're supposed to ask for help when you're stuck not for something you were supposed to read when you installed windows let alone linux

>>729523705
Add emulators and freeware to steam and use the game recording feature

>>729523870
it really doesn't matter but having it all one drive would be more convenient

>>729524130
Dumb thing but maybe try gamescope?
I add non-steam games to steam all the time on the Deck and the gamescope session is... well, gamescope. So I'm guessing that's what should do the trick?

>>729524130
Yes it should just work but Wayland might be fucking with you. I normally have Wayland and x11 installed just because this is common as developers hard pivot to suddenly updating Linux packages.
For instance ppsspp and pcxs2 both got tons of bugs when the deck was popular.
What distro? What actually happens other than "not work" are you using OBS?

>>729523870
an ssd's lifetime depends on its free space since it shuffles data around to even out the wear
if you split it in half it has less room to do that

>>729521767
I play video games and sometimes alt tab out of them, in more games than 1 that will either crash the game or crash it and dma my ram straight to 100%. I also sometimes record my screen with spectacle, which is the KDE built in screen recorder. That is not working on current driver, and I don't want to install old driver.
Occasionally I watch videos on MPV, and I'm limited to what settings I can use. For example, using vulkan will freeze the UI and make the program unusable. Mangohud keeps segfaulting in certain conditions. I'm sure I could think of more if I really wanted to spend more time on this.

>>729523717
>Show
I would, but my kid is watching YouTube on my Linux machine, and I don't keep screenshots on my phone.
You'll have to take my word that the last thing I played was StarCraft (not Remastered).

>>729524615
What distro and can you try to replicate it on x11? Your Wayland setup needs extra stuff and my crystal ball broke.

>>729524726
>pretending it broke
Why are Linux users so elitist?
Stop being selfish and just use your crystal ball.

>>729524615
Which distro do you use?
I had this problem with spectacle in Bazzite.
I'm not sure if it happens elsewhere because while I was fucking around, I switched to AMD. So I'm not sure whether it's just a Bazzite problem or an nvidia problem.
Do your recorded files come up empty?

>>729524726
It's Arch and Wayland. Also, I'd like to point out that literally every issue I just described can be solved by installing a different Nvidia driver. Those drivers have other issues, however, and I really don't want to keep a huge archive of outdated drivers to install depending on what I want to do.

I am not really interested in testing on x11, but I am pretty sure the mpv issue can be reproduced and the memory issue is maybe exclusive to Wayland. Spectacle issue is also on x11 I think.

>>729525604
Man I use gentoo and I've never seen anything as scuffed as this.
What gpu and driver versions?

>>729525604
I haven't kept up with Wayland, is it wellbehaved now or does it still require compatibility layers for every 2nd program?

>>729525860
I have gentoo and nvidia working just fine
I'm trying to help this arch guy and I honestly thing his bugs are just self inflicted paper cuts

>>729525782
This is 3060 Ti on the latest Nvidia driver, which is 590 something. The memory and mpv issues started in later releases of the 585 driver, I'm not sure when spectacle broke but it was working in early beta of 585 which I got from AUR when arch was still on 570 or 575.

BAZZIN'!

>>729524321
I'll give it a try
>>729524369
Arch, no OBS. I'll open the shortcut in Steam and press the hotkeys to show the overlay, take screenshots, record video. The overlay doesn't show, no noise is made for the screenshots and after exiting none were captured. For some of them I do see the FPS counter, so it's getting partway there.
It's good to hear it should be possible. I like Arch but maybe this is a case where I've shot myself in the foot by not configuring something.

>>729515541
Recently (in october) switched to kubuntu on my main desktop from endeavor amd haven't had an issue yet outside of getting ds4drv to work. I would still be using endeavor if they didnt break my network card which is ancient then most if not all of the documentation disappeared for it. My only issue with kubuntu is I can not get mangohud to work at all. Also steam still hasn't fixed their fucking icon so I can't use a light theme.

>>729526756
OBS is not a distro it is recording and streaming software

I installed Mint on a laptop to see what all this linux shit was about
>doesn't do anything that Windows can't do
>lacks several Windows features
>basically just a watered down OS that struggles to run a lot of software
I guess it really is about schizophrenia and "not being spied upon", an irrational fear that I lack because I am not retarded and know what anonymized data is.

Man if you're willing to use arch for this please just use gentoo
I'll stay in the thread and lurk the catalog to provide help

>>729527419
Anon I think he's referring to the fact he is not using OBS, and the fact that Steam has a recording feature he's using, I don't think you're qualified to drive today

>>729527563
>lacks several Windows features
>basically just a watered down OS that struggles to run a lot of software
Can you name them?

>>729527563
>I guess it really is about schizophrenia and "not being spied upon", an irrational fear that I lack because I am not retarded and know what anonymized data is.

>anonymized data
anon
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-admits-almost-all-major-windows-11-core-features-are-broken/
It isn't just anonymized data, your OS literally doesn't fucking work and Microsoft has admitted to it.
>B-but it works for me
using 15 GB RAM to open the file manager or the task manager isn't working.

>>729526756
Try running Steam through the terminal and seeing what happens when you open up a game (with the overlay enabled)
Keep in mind even up until maybe a year ago you could install Steam on distros like Arch, have the launcher perfectly work, and still be unable to even open up games until you installed certain dependencies

>>729527650
The ability to run office or adobe

>>729515541
I just can't justify transitioning into a woman

>>729527580
Just because someone wants to waste time with arch doesn't mean they want to waste even more time with Gentoo.

>>729528035
Gentoo isn't a waste of time though

>>729527871
if you want to adobe then cry to adobe, no one can just force port their shit for them, that's not a fault of linux
office is already fully usable through your browser and libre office exists
if you want actual microsoft office that's also on microsoft, not linux

>>729522573
>Valve is a huge reason why gaming is good on linux now
>by piggy backing off of the wine devs and other users documentation
Free tards love their corporate overlords

>>729527580
Genuinely why use Gentoo over Arch?

>>729528206
Packages that work and better documentation

>>729527871
Anon at the risk of sounding like a certain ebussy guy
What exactly do you use those for that cannot be somewhat achieved by the current software available on linux?
Most people who want Photoshop just want basic editing that can be done through 15 other different tools. Most people who want Office just use Word and Excel at a very basic level that can even be replaced by using the Google crap. I made the switch even though I spend a lot of time doing RAW processing and there's at least 5 different fucking programs over the Windows side that do not work on Linux, and I'm fine. So what the fuck would you specifically need? If it's for work strictly, use what your work demands of you.

>>729515541
I'll switch to Linux when I get tired of battlefield 6

>>729528201
they sunk a fuckload of time and money into it
they hired the nier autist for fucks sake

>>729528117
You get the same result as arch with extra work and arch itself gives you the same result as noob distros with extra work.
Both arch and Gentoo have their specific use cases where you actually need them and there is some overlap, but 99% of the time they are both a waste of time. Unless you have some arguments otherwise, don't bother making bland unfounded statements like that.

>>729528206
bragging rights

>install bazzite
>choose gnome
>install flatpak discord as told
>PTT doesn't work unless discord is in focus

so much for the gamer's choice of linux distro

>>729528324
>Most people who want Photoshop just want basic editing that can be done through 15 other different tools
i hope you're not implying crap like photopea and gimp are viable alternatives just because they can also "do editing"

>>729528472
>bland and unfounded
Works on my machines

>>729528547
Does Gentoo cause brain damage or something? How does that follow the discussion? All Linux distros work.

>>729528454
>sunk a fuckload of time and money into something that was already half figured out already
Lol people were gaming on linux long before valve came along retard. Wake me up when they start punishing devs for their anti cheat that doesnt work

>>729528530
>choose gnome

>>729528675
You sound really mad and so certain of your opinion that I opted to just troll you for being a cunt

>>729515541
I'll use linux for gaming when my games actually work without needing to have five different random packages installed that may or may not be properly maintained and each require an evening's worth of troubleshooting because some faggot trannydev in the dependency chain crashed out over pronouns that week and didn't want to update their library
I want to eject the pajeet but until you queers get your shit together there's no point in using linux except as a gimmick

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the only games that dont work on linux are call of duty and fortnite so when you see someone crying about anticheat theyre probably 12 years old

>>729528676
a few autists bruteforcing shit doesn't exactly count as gaming compared to steam play
they don't need to do anything, it'll just happen as all the anticheats are cucked to userland, they'll have to accept the humiliation themselves

>>729528734
Is this some kind of a weird attempt at cope? You might as well not post if you're so wrong that you can't even make a bad argument to support your position.

>>729528737
they already fixed the issue you're crying about with proton, if you want to use proton without steam use the umu launcher. proton bundles all the wine stuff and libraries you need thats the point

>>729528940
You're not genuinely arguing you're just being a bit of a cunt because arch is a shit anon

How is using Linux a gimmick? This is why I'd rather shitpost. Half the people posting don't know the difference between a package, a package manager, their distro, their desktop environment, or their own cpu architecture.

>>729528710
i wanted to get AWAY from windows, not cope

>>729529082
Gentoo is shit. Why? No reason, I say so.
This is you by the way. You literally just issue statements which you don't and evidently can't back up with any substance. You're right about one thing, I am not genuinely arguing because you don't even have an argument to engage with.

>>729528035
>wants to waste time with arch
I don't understand why people give Arch so much shit. It's just as easy to setup and use as any other distro. The problem most certainly is not the tool, but the user.

>>729528927
Nigga I was playing morrowind in 2008 with wine on Ubuntu. Proton is only black magic if you are retarded

>>729529314
I'm glad you understand now thanks for playing. Go be an inflammatory asshole somewhere else. Your entire stance is that any distro is a waste of time.
Go be a negative cunt somewhere else man no one wants to interact with that and give it any fraction of respect or even the time of day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bsNIdYw5Ak
luke smith said arch is the best distro because its simple and just works and has every package ever easily installable thanks to the aur. gentoo sissies wouldnt get it

>>729529471
Depending on what you're looking for, you can just install fedora, cachyos, bazzite, whatever else and do the same thing you'd do on arch with a fraction of the effort. Arch install does not set up a system that has all the setup done, you still need to do manual work. It can be considered a waste of time if you don't need anything that arch is specifically useful for.

>>729529471
I'm sick of helping people with Linux who are so uneducated they think OBS is a distro and then finding out they're on arch
If they want the cool 1337 distro they should at least use gentoo. The handbook would force a little knowledge into them.

>>729529472
you're comparing playing an old dx8 game half a decade after launch to playing new dx12 games on launch day?

>>729529802
a 1 time setup that is more to your liking and will be easier to maintain because you know what you're installing. as if people have 0 free time to setup their system on the weekend or in the afternoon. realistically the time you save having it work exactly how you want the first time will offset any benefit lazy distros and install scripts have

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>>729529958
it sounds like you're obsessed with what others do and with looking cool because you use linux.

>>729528324
I am a lawyer and edit my documents in Word. I rely in my docx files having 100% fidelity, as in what I see on my screen must see what my colleagues see too. We also need collaborative editing.

>just use the browser version
I have lots of macro. Can't do that.

>>729530218
I use macOS

>>729530262
You're 100% a public pretender.

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>>729530280
drop the irony swetie

>>729530393
I'm posting from my iPhone and my m4 MacBook pro

>>729529973
Yes because only in recent years did arch fags and valve get the idea that linux is bleeding edge. Linux was all about stability in the past and now its unstable as fuck because the ever growing amount of free tards such as yourself that need a corporate cock to suck

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>>729521785
>console warring with fucking Linux distros
This is why /g/ openly hates gamers

>>729530712
Anon I'm just trolling the one distrofag in the thread

Been using cachyOS with a RTX4070 for a couple weeks now. Game wise didn't find any big issues playing CP2077, KCD2 and Rimworld, I only had problems looking for program equivalents to what I was using on W11, fucked up by mass renaming some files on NTFS and breaking the index, and some very specific bugs on Brave (which I couldn't fix so I moved to Firefox)

>try out Linux for three weeks
>some games have stuttering
>others have weird glitches like cutscenes not playing
>drivers for Nvidia still suck
>software distribution is done with meme packet managers or flatpacks which fucking suck

I'm back on Win 11 LTSC
Why bother with the hassle of getting things working with Linux that already work for me

>>729529802
>with a fraction of the effort
Again, I don't where this sentiment is coming from. The only effort involved is in reading up the absolute minium of basic knowledge, that you'd invetiably have to do while troubleshooting on any other distro, too.
>Arch install does not set up a system that has all the setup done, you still need to do manual work.
In terms if effort and preperation it's comparable to a one-time-payment (Arch) vs. installments+interest (most other distro).
>It can be considered a waste of time if you don't need anything that arch is specifically useful for.
Anon, Arch is a clean a slate you can start with, setting the system up for your use-case is a non-issue. Once you've set it up for your machine/use case, you can wrap it into a script to supply your liveUSB with, at which point other distro's don't even have an edge in convenience anymore.

The only scenarios in which Arch is suboptimal involve time constraints and lazy users. It's not a matter of experience/competence in the field, and there's no elitism about it. The only two requirements are reading comprehension and time (whereby experience obviously greatly reduces the time you'll need).

>>729529564
They really need to make Gentoo documentation harder when a retard like you can follow it. I didn't say every distro is a waste of time, I said more effort just to get exactly the same result is a waste of time.

You really shouldn't be talking about respect as if anyone cares whether some knob who thinks he's hot shit because he had to type more commands in the terminal than an arch user has any respect to give. I have massively negative respect for you, someone who doesn't even know why they use Gentoo, in the first place. I honestly wish people as dim as you didn't give me the time of day, at least then I could delude myself into believing the average person is pretty clever.

>>729531269
lol
Lmao even

>>729531050
>I'm back on Win 11 LTSC
Why, yes, please throw the fishing pole and sink the boat while you're at it.

>play game in windowed mode
>set resolution to 4k
>press F11
>it's now on fullscreen
That's all I needed to see. Linux is better. But the reason why I switched over to Linux has nothing to do with gaming. It was because a Windows 11 update broke my remote work setup, I hate copilot, One Drive made my folder structure a damn mess and I hate the ads and news pop-ups. Plus, I was uncomfortable seeing my work related files on my W11 start menu. Felt like my job could monitor me on my off hours like that one skit from smiling friends. I use a VM for work, and it works flawlessly while getting rid of the paranoia I had with work and personal stuff being meshed together since my work is on a Windows VM while my personal stuff is on Linux.