*ruins your comfy game*
>>729516978What else would we do after completing it?
>>729517071RacingDrive mindlessly as a taxi driverFuck your gf
>>729516978>Adds fun shit for you to doI wish V had done that. Literally nothing after the story but a worse vice city businesses shit
>>729516978Only the little tiny sliver sections ruined my experience. And the beach area.
Also, how the fuck do you capture this shitty area, no one spawns there
>>729516978the gang wars IS a comfy part of the game though
>>729517520I always stand inside the parking lot and shoot the rival gang members as they drive by. Standing on the roof can help with that, too.
>>729516978I remember taking over most of the areas but then the story resets it IIRC. Genuinely hated that
For me it's that bit of land over the Golden Gate Bridge that for whatever reason is Ballas territory
>>729517615Holy fuck this. There was no way in knowing it would reset
>>729517569>do literally anything, even a chill drive at the beach>BRO COME QUICKLY YOU NEED TO CROSS THE ENTIRE TOWN TO KILL FIVE SHITTY NPCS WITH YOUR OVERPOWERED WEAPONhow the fuck is that comfy?
>>729517615>>729517680It resets pretty much the next mission after you unlock them in the first place, it's completely pointless unlocking them at that point in the story.
>>729517071Play another game, obviously.
>>729516978>that small strip of pavement on the east that's always the last bit left to conquer >so small it's a pain in the ass to have an enemy gang spawn on it and to trigger a gang warTHEY DID IT ON PURPOSE
>>729516978>just want to kill few niggers>gang war occurimmersion broken
>>729516978You mean improves x10? Suburb gang fights are pure kino, it gives the whole city more reasons to exist, it's not just a useless decoration that only exists for you to drive through while the failed Cockstar writer dumps boring soap drama dialogues on you for 10 minutes straight, it's an actual part of gameplay that you have to traverse, explore, use in combat, get familiar with, get close with. It's YOUR town because you know it like the back of your hand now, you earned this town. It's one of the reasons why 4 and 5 are so shit when compared to 3D era, they don't utilize their own map enough.
Did you motherfuckers never realize that you're the one who needs to be in the highlighted area when you get the kills in order for the war to trigger? You can literally snipe gang members from a block away as long as CJ is in the area and it will trigger the war after a certain number of kills.Holy fuck, I figured this shit out when I was 14, get your shit together.
>>729517774It was intended to be a rugpull so it makes sense from a story perspective at least. The real problem is Rockstar North's asshole game design allowing you to participate in the turf wars outside of missions at that point. I can basically guarantee you some Scottish cunt was giggling by himself at all the players who would waste time doing something that was about to be reset in just a few missions' time.
>>729517615>>729517774I fucking forgot this FUCK I literally spent 4 hours on this shit (including the multiple crashes)
>>729518368>who would waste timeLike, playing vidya? As opposed to playing vidya? I mean, I have no doubts some R* fag could've made this on purpose thinking it's some epic own, when in reality he just wasted his own time making more gameplay for me for free.
Didn't there used to be a turf here?
>>729517689map painting is comfy
>>729518997the situation I described there is the particular case when the map is not painted
>>729518258You cuss like a 14 year old.
>>729517520I never fucked with gang turf outside of the minimum amount you need to takeover to trigger the last mission. Like the areas make fuck all sense and almost seem entirely random
>there's a fully implemented gang war system for the other two cities, for the different gangs, Triads, Vietnamese, they have their own colours and spawns and everything>just stay AFK flying away from the map for a few hours and it activatesI still don't know what the fuck that was about years later
>>729519213mafia gangsters dont spawn so this is pointless
Where my SAMP niggas at? I bombed cops spawn so many times they perma banned me from the server
>>729516978Thanks doc.
>>729519213I can't even imagine how much worse the gang wars system would be if there was an additional element of having to potentially travel to another city to defend your territory while trying to conquer it elsewhere. It would've been cool to take over all three of the cities though, although I don't think it really makes narrative sense.
>>729519465
>>729519479Even if you activate the territory glitch it's city specific ie. if you're in San Fierro, only San Fierro territories can be randomly attacked.
>>729516978This is what i wanted in gaming. This and the faction system in skyrim except expanded with better AI, more interactions that you influence the war with. We have gotten nothing and worse AI and gaming got worse.This half fleshed out prototype was the peak.
>>729519523Well that's funny, I almost added to my post something about if it only affected the city you're in it might be reasonable, but I figured Rockstar doesn't really do reasonable.
>>729516978It's literally the best part
>>729519461Played once on a roleplay server. Some guy yelled to me like he was in the army, I didn't know what he was talking about so I stabbed him several times, and then I got banned.
>>729516978Still better than Vice City where you had to grind for literal hours (irl) to get enough money to buy the properties and then do all the mundande side missions to unlock the final mission. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??!?!
>>729519636it already works like that in the vanilla game. if you're out of Los Santos your turf never gets attacked.
>>729519806>what if we recreate Scarface
>>729517520Unironically get a ped spawner mod, that's how i did itYou're still fucked if their pathing goes all retarded and they run away from the area
>game crashed again for no fucking reasonI CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
>>729519461>SAMPThat shit was gay ass ERP crap. Real niggas played MTA:SA.>Freeside server that was just open chaos with people getting into dogfights with jets or running people over in firetrucks with the siren blaring>=PCP= clan deathmatch server for team deathmatch battles>racing servers on crazy track maps where everyone has super-powered racing cars with nitro
>>729519213>I still don't know what the fuck that was about years laterThe glitch happens because of the code that's suppose to clear out the 'unexplored fog' on the pause menu map. When you travel too far, the coordinates get too large and it causes the memory pointer to overflow into the territory gangwar flags, and starts flipping them to enabled.The gangs already being preset is a leftover from when the gangwar mechanic was much larger scale.
>>729518368Its not a time waste, it gives you access to guns you would otherwise be unable to attain.
>>729519893The actual Scarface game was great though, going from selling grams to hood dealers to moving keys from the islands was kino.
>>729520043>the coordinates get too large and it causes the memory pointer to overflowOh huh, that's kind of stupid
>>729516978Upon a recent replay of the trilogy, gang wars singlehandedly brought down the whole experience. It's so fucking boring and tedious. Resorted to the vehicle mission cheese strat to beat them quicker.>>729519806There's money exploits in all the 3D GTA games.
>>729520709Since you use money exploits, I'm going to assume you were rushing thru the game treating it like a job. GTA is best played at your own pace and not when you're playing it like you have a bomb up your ass.
>>729518937Theres a way to unlock Turf wars across the map, you aren't intended to and idk if its a glitch or cut feature.
>>729517615happened to me on my first playthrough>unlock all areas>green sabre mission happens>...yeah I was pissed
>>729521865No I used money exploits for Vice City so I could buy everything you need towards the end of the game without grinding. Didn't matter anyway because I did the Hunter vigilante missions and they're too easy and broken as well. I did it in San Andreas because it literally takes 5 minutes in the betting shop to have more money than you'll be ever need. My own pace is my own pace. Didn't feel like I was rushing at all
>>729516978For me, it’s having to do allThe property missions in order to beat vice city. Imagine if you had to buy every property in GTAV in order to unlock the final mission
>>729519945>anon's RAM is crapping out at the worst possible momentoh no...
>>729517520You can stand within the zone and the appropriate gang should appear wherever peds can spawn.For areas like this you need to find a place that lets you see foot traffic from afar and pick them off at a distance until it triggers the war.It's easily the least developed feature in the game and shit like this really demonstrates that. Even fan fixes don't quite bring it up to par with the rest of the game. If anybody drops San Adreas because of this feature alone I can't blame them.
>>729517520Isnt that the pig pen? Stay in the premisses
I had a file where the entire map was covered in gangs, and I do mean all of it, not just the urban parts of SF and LV. Getting a bunch of goons into a bus on grove street, then driving all the way to SF to shoot Ballas was so fucking fun
>>729522452>Getting a bunch of goons into a busThat's a good idea, didn't think of that before
>>729519048you can just paint the entire map and its no longer a problemgang war is bad because the combat of GTA SA is badon the PS2 its all about packing as much health and armor as you can and then grabbing an AK to mow down mindless hordeson PC you can do headshots and crouch behind cover but it doesn't change much, just that you don't need an AK for it to be effortlessthe whole recruiting gang member part is completely stupid because the AI will get itself killed in the first few waves and your allies are always underequipped compared to the enemy
>>729516978I found it useful for grinding weapon skills early on.But I haven't done the full takeover after the last mission ever since I was 10 or something.
favorite comfy spot? for me its juniper hollow
>>729519945average uncslop experience
>>729516978...by not being in all 3 cities
>>729523489Mount CHILLiad
>>729520043>>729520376That's really dumb programming. You'd think they'd put some kind of barrier that teleports you back X amount of coordinates. That's how the infinite stairs work in Mario 64.Mario can bypass the stair by using a backwards long jump to go fast enough that the game doesn't register him as touching the teleport. But CJ in a plane is always going a certain speed so this would've been almost impossible to bypass.
>>729516978>Spend a shitload of time capturing every territory after the mechanic is shown to me>Literally have over 10k assault rifle and SMG ammo>Do the Green Sabre mission>All the ammo and the territories goneI really wish they hadn't let you spend that much time on it. Maybe just have 6-10 territories you can claim and then add in more when it comes back later in the game.
>>729522685you can also take a few homies on a boat trip around the map. show them a world they aint never seen and shit - did that a couple times in 2 player mode with my cousin when we were drinking
>>729520179But you lose all your guns in the same mission it resets your territories.
>>729524124Well, they fixed that glitch in the platinum hits version of the game.
>>729519937>getting a mod to do the shittiest side activity in any GTAyikes
>>729517774>>729518368Wasn't there a mission that required you to obtain a bunch of territories before doing it? I think it was reuniting the families or something.
>>729524676Needed to 100% just once, prease understando
>>729518937There technically is a grove street turf there even in vanilla and only fan mods restore any of the real functionality of it.There are several unmarked turfs from uncommon gangs all over the map actually. Bikers, mafia, and Cesar's gang. All turfs technically work in vanilla but don't apply to the gang wars scripting so they simply spawn in the zones like 3 and vice city with no real interaction outside of their willingness to retaliate against general violence.
>>729517235this
>>729522037It's a little of both actually.There is coding among each of the gangs to be able to engage in turf wars but without any bugs none of it is accessible due to downsizing the feature and hastily cutting them out.The bug you're describing is a slip up in positional coding that happens when the player is too far outside of a "playable" area. It starts trying to reapply the gang wars scripting to anywhere it can with any gang it can, ignoring the checks and triggers that would normally prevent a faction from being a part of the scripting.The bug happens because technically ALL gangs can engage with the system, they are just quoted out of the script in critical areas of the code where the scripting will just put them right back in due to how the player's position is so closely tied with the ruleset that curates the feature.TL;DRAll gangs can engage with the gang war feature, the coding is just so unstable that the cut gangs and territories can be accessed with a bug that breaks scripting dependant on the player's current position. Most fan mods deliberately reactivate some of this code which is why gang war mods are generally unstable and can cause crashes.
>>729517615Fucking this. I was a huge fan of this mechanic as a kid, got a lot of territory and then the game just reset it without warning. Some of the worst game design of all time.
>>729519664kek
>>729517520>>729522326Gangs have designated spawn points, aside from spawning as a random pedestrianIf you are going to take over Los Santos, then plan ahead. Some of these areas lack gang spawns (groups) inside so you need to exploit nearby ones. It doesn't matter if the rivals are outside the area CJ is standing in, all you need is to kill members inside an area of your interest
>>729520043>>729525638>>729526420>>729527620How do you know so much about the game
>>729527839he's vadim m
>>729517071breed
>>729525638Adding to this anon's post, right after turf wars is unlocked, if you pay attention to the map, that block where Sweet's gf mission takes part is marked with a darker shade of green. Seville Boulevards are not friendly neither hostile, so it may remain there unnoticed to you, as a 'Groove' turf (until before the Green Sabre mission)
>>729527839He watched this https://youtu.be/L97xXbFnFWM?si=uBepHPHqqhxEULcV&t=884
>>729516978This would be fun in a mgsv style where you could invade people's turf online and take it over by your own custom gang
>>729518937I think turfs outside the ones you can take in LS were defined as a lazy way to spawn armed gang mobs like the mafia or bikers. This way it makes more sense than being a cut feature.
>>729517520Go there, and eventually, some of the people and cars that spawn outside of that territory will be ballas, kill them with a snipper. You can also bring ballas from somewhere else and kill them there.
>>729518937There was one there in one of my PS2 playthroughs. Never happened when I played in PC. It was a glitch, I think.
>>729516978>>729517520this took me like 8 hours to do
>>729531171>>729530923It is a glitch, my guess is that they just went the lazy way and coded every territory (including the entire city and the entire state) as a gang territory, but just set those to not being able to be invaded. But since going out of the map for so long fucks with the ingame memory, it turns those into gang territories. This is also why it can cause taxi missions to be permanently unavailable, or straight up turn on cheats.
>>729518937Yes. It was annoying.
