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>>729517208
>still getting excited for sóy wars in 2025 (soon to be 2026)
horrible bait

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>>729517330
10+ years of pure seethe

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>>729517208
sigh .... somehow Slop Wars has returned.

>>729517208
It's weird to think that we might be reentering the period of SW media where the movies sold so badly that the IP holder lets 3rd parties get weird with it (aka the best period).

Hopefully this time we get a good Gungan game.

>>729517208
Zero Company is the only game with a chance of being halfway decent

the last three Star wars games were flops.
everybody has star wars burn out. nobody cares.

their solution? SIX more games.

they will all crash and burn and it will be GLORIOUS

>>729518054
Galactic Racer as well but most people don't care for racing games

>>729517924
Disney paid billions for the rights to Star Wars. No way they’re going to be lax with third parties. They’re only going to double and triple down with girlboss shit.

>>729518138
>everybody has star wars burn out.
Fuck no, the last 3 games were just boring /bad. If we were getting games even half as interesting as the shit we were getting in the early 2000s people would be all over it.
Galactic Racer is promising, at least.

>>729517208
I know next to nothing about these titles
Kotor 3 had not Rey, not a good sign
Xcom-like might be interesting
what are the rest? more roll slop?

I NEED Zero Company. I've been playing XCOM 2 so much that the first letter got filed down to vCOM.

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I just want to be a grunt and shoot at rebel scum or command grunts to shoot at rebel scum.

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Choose your (TIE) fighter!

>>729518327
>>729518054
And Fallen Order 3. Those other two are great.

And the KOTOR games since they have such a strong foundation.

>>729518138
The Fallen Order duology was so successful that they forced EA to reconsider their approach to single player games.

I don't know what happened to the Ubisoft game but considering it went under even my radar, there was clearly some sort of issue in marketing and release strategy

>>729518554
Eclipse is a David Cage game that's probably not coming out.
Galactic Racer is a new racing game, might be cool.
KotOR is a good WRPG, hopefully FotOR will be too.
Jedi 3 is probably rollslop.

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>>729518683
>>729517208
We are actually so fucking back it's absurd, infantrybros

>>729518746
Gimme the TIE Phantom
Played the shit out of that FMV game

>>729518746
no TIE Mauler?

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>>729519003
How so? That image is just space wizards doing their dumb sword fight.
>>729519105
God damn it of course the image doesn't have the mauler while adding all those goofy fake ones.

>>729517208
Literally only Galactic Racer and maybe Zero Company actually exist and will release, the rest are 100% never coming out. And not even Zero Company is actually guaranteed, they haven't shown it or talked about it in well over a year now. And Respawn's future is extremely questionable with Zampella dead. People have actually played Galactic Racer and it is most likely releasing soon-ish because it's a much smaller game than people probably expect. You should operate under the assumption that you will most likely never see any of these games release. Jedi 3 is probably never happening since most of the team that made the first two, including the director, left the company back in 2023.

>>729519003
What is this. Spoonfeed me.

>>729519256
Just some dogshit modded private server for EA Battlefront 2

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>>729518746
Where the fuck is my bro TIE Mauler?

yay, which ones lets me conjure force babies with my lesbian minority-toon?

>>729518915
Isn't it the Jedi duology? Fallen Order's just the first one. My god the NG+ was a mess there.

>>729519206
>How so?
>>729519256
>What is this.

I don't know shit about game development so the technicals are lost on me, but basically EAfront2 was completely reverse engineered and modding has been cracked open in accessibility.
We are getting a new private server browser, alongside an ongoing community overhaul mod that supports, on top of heroes and infantry, new guns, maps, and game modes for the first time.
Basically all the development tools EA had are now in the hands of the autistic BF2 community and they are taking complete advantage of it

Final play test is ongoing currently I think. The first build is launching with a Jedi Temple map and a ton of other shit I couldn't list.
/Shill post

I wonder how good Jedi 3 will be without Asmussen. It's the only thing I care much about.

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>>729519628
Pic related

>>729519634
I sadly don't even think it is being made. And now with Zampella dead, I don't even think Respawn is going to survive.

Just want more Star Wars games focused around non-Force sensitives/users, and on actual warfare.

>>729519628
So absolutely nothing worth a shit then. Got it. Battlefront 2 is already one of the most hackers infested games out there and has been for 6-7 years, so private servers with no anti-cheat or moderation whatsoever are going to be way, way worse.

>>729519634
They have a really good baseline.

With him gone, I'd rather they just do their best to bring the trilogy home and give it a satisfying conclusion than try to mess with things too much. Just Survivor in gameplay with the best possible story they can tell, that's what id like

>>729519003
I don't want to have to engage with Discord in any way shape or manner just to download the beta.

>>729518746
the EU, god rest his soul, went full retard too often
they should've done more with non-TIEs like the Cygnus fighters

>>729517208
kill this fucking franchise already

>>729519003
>>729519256
>>729519628
>>729519324
If this launches and I don't need to join some tranny discord I might end up getting back into Battlefront 5

>>729519856
It's got some sort of anticheat they said. I really dont understand that side of things though, I just like muh stormtrooper simulator. Only a retard wouldn't see the potential in a project like this.

>>729519930
Me neither that's why I'm just waiting out for the full release.

>>729517208
Unless the racing game is playable in VR, I don’t give a shit.

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>>729520025
Nah!
Ten more years of seething for you!

>>729518327
The podracing scene made into a ful racing game by the guys who made Burnout sounds incredible.

>>729520052
Modded servers for multiplayer shooters are always 1000% pure cancer and AIDS. There's no potential there. Fuck off back to their discord, tranny.

>>729520369
I can tell you were born after 9/11

>>729520410
I'm 36. Thank you for proving my point, retard.

>>729517208
which of those have a release date? i dont want to get excited for vaporware

>>729520369
The regular servers have more hackers than the modded ones in this case

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>NOOOOO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!
>These games will be shit! Infact they-they simply won't come out! Yeah none of these games will release!
>That's why you shouldn't be happy! It doesn't matter that they look incredible, because they won't release

Haha

>>729520460
None. Literally not a single one of them. Not a single one is ever actually getting made and releasing. Lucasfilm does nothing but announce movies and games that will never see the light of day as a ploy to not get shut down by Disney.

>>729520509
It will be the same or worse, there's not going to be any way for them to moderate it.

>>729518815
>And Fallen Order 3. Those other two are great.
Fuck no. They were generic console crap. Also fuck them for trying to make fucking Debra Wilson a star wars "legend".

>>729520586
Podracers and Zero Company next year
Fate will be within the next 3 years per the game director
Knights, Eclipse, and Jedi 3 are effectively vaporware but their studios keep saying they are still being worked on. Anything could happen to the first two but we know Jedi 3 is a high priority project for EA so I'm optimistic in its eventual release

>>729520254
It's not a podracing game, and is a roguelite. It's a much smaller and lower budget game than people are expecting after that trailer (in fact there might be a mobile version)

>>729520813
>roguelite
>might be a mobile version
Where are you getting this part from

>>729520796
They did. They could have chosen to do not. There was no "try".

>>729520813
>(in fact there might be a mobile version)
nice, i will be able to play that shit on my switch

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I just can't bother if the peak of new Star Wars is introducing Vader yet again. Or trying to establish some back-lore from characters introduced 4 decades ago.

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>>729517208
wow it's crazy to see so much cancelled IP all in one image

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Say it

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I hope Galactic Racer is a f2p game with season passes. Anything to give it a well funded lifespan with active playerbase.

>>729520801
>Fate will be within the next 3 years per the game director
lmao yeah game directors never lie to the public

>>729521038
He was right to sell to Disney over any other company. I still don't know if Kennedy was his wisest choice but things could be infinitely worse

>>729521134
I'm going to take public statements at face value unless given reason to believe the guy is a liar

>>729521038
>>729521161
selling to disney was honestly not a horrible call at the time that he made the deal, there was no way he could possibly know that disney would later hire jj abrams and he would fuck up the entire trajectory of the franchise and cut him out of production of the films entirely
before abrams got hired it seemed like disney was going with his sequel treatments and were consulting him on them fairly regularly

>>729521161
Selling to Disney might have been the obvious call to make at the time.
But I really don't see how things could be worse for the health of the IP right now.

>>729520939
A bunch of journalists and influencers have played it and confirm as such. Besides that, the devs describe their game as a "run-based racing adventure". That's a roguelite.

>>729519856
the point is that you can kick the cheaters, not rely on anti cheat

>>729521161
No he wasn't, but I understand why he thought so at the time and how anyone could have made the same mistake. He sold to Disney under the impression that it was the right steward to protect and keep a family friendly, kid oriented adventure franchise safe because for his entire life Disney's reputation for being that was cemented. Little did he know that Disney was already rotting within and turning all of their IP's into leftist/communist/Israeli propaganda. Nobody could have predicted what Disney turned into only a few years after he sold it to them.

>>729520558
>they look incredible
>zero gameplay footage
Try harder Rajesh.

>>729519754
Didn't Zampella already leave Respawn years ago to work on Battlefield?

>>729520796
>Fuck no. They were generic console crap
Most Star Wars games are extremely derivative.

>>729521543
>>729521842
>>729521328
Disney is the only company that would have been willing to put Filoni in charge, and say what you want about Filonis directing abilities, he's the only person properly mentored by George and understands the mans vision better than we ever could. They are also the only company that would have been willing to keep the franchise creator driven, prioritize continuity, and expand it into a full scale space opera with the timing of D+

I want people to seriously consider the alternatives. Think about a Star Wars owned by WB (now under Netflix) and the way they treat their franchises.

>>729521038
Please buy it back George you're the only one who can save it

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>>729522146
>he's the only person properly mentored by George and understands the mans vision better than we ever could

>>729522146
the real tragedy of lucas selling star wars is that he likely realized pretty quick who the people who actually cared about the story were and who were the sellouts and snakes
kennedy was a sellout, and filoni was a snake

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>>729522146
>WB tried to give Harry Potter the treatment Star Wars got
>They made one trilogy of spinoffs (worse than the st, mind you), a single AAA video game, and immediately gave up before rebooting the franchise with no word on what that means for their canon

Grim

>>729517208
Eclipse is literally vaporware.

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>>729518746
I really liked the Blohm-und-Voss TIE from the Han Solo movie

>>729522345
whether they want to publicly admit to it or not, they have to also contend with the anti JKR campaign that has been getting louder online, intending to sink all of HP over time

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>>729522146
>he's the only person properly mentored by George and understands the mans vision better than we ever could
George was adamant that Ahsoka Tano needed to die during Order 66. The first thing Filoni did while in charge was ensure that his beloved baby girl daughter wife would never, ever die.
And then he turned her into Gandalf the White because of his Lord of the Rings fetishism. Just like George envisioned.

>>729521997
No. Respawn are the ones who made Battlefield 6, not DICE.

>>729522345
what was there to even do with hp after the movies? the world building was so jank in the books/ films that it doesn't really lend itself to spinoffs without massively expanding on them to the point of rewriting it entirely
a total reboot isn't a bad call per se, it would always have the issue of trying to live up to the actors in the original, but since it's being made in current year +10 they have to do their obligatory diversity quotas even if it doesn't make any goddamn sense

>>729522146
Filoni is the absolute worst and has done the most damage to Star Wars of anyone at Disney Lucasfilm. Absolutely cringe and out of touch post.

>>729522494
>George was adamant that Ahsoka Tano needed to die during Order 66.
no he wasn't, you are massively misreading the intent

>>729522494
george already relented before the sale, allowing her to merely turn her back on the order (instead of being kicked out because she can do no wrong)
the real point of no return was in rebels where filoni invented dimensional time travel for the sole purpose of preventing her from dying, ever
do you remember when he sperged out over people thinking she was dead in tros over twitter? i 'member

didnt the KOTOR remake get canned?

>>729522282
>>729522319
That alone is reason enough to make Filoni the creative director. I couldn't care less what people think of his projects.

>>729522494
You misunderstand. Filoni is important to the franchise not because he's the guy who would do everything exactly as George would and they never disagreed on narrative arcs, he's important because he understands the philosophy of the franchise from the word of George himself. It's that philosophy that makes Star Wars an important franchise, not whether or not Ahsoka does

>>729522686
Peak 'now that Kennedy isn't important and we've gotten what we asked for, I've decided I hate the new head of the franchise'

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>>729522686
>Filoni is the absolute worst and has done the most damage to Star Wars of anyone at Disney Lucasfilm
you got EXACTLY the star wars you asked for, and it wasn't Filoni who ruined it

>>729522656
Hundreds of years of untouched lore with a dozen schools all around the world.

I haven't seen Harry Potter in like 10 years and I'm sure I could come up with something cool. The fact that WB couldn't even with Rowling there to work with them is seriously a horrible sign

>>729522793
Switched studios about a year after its announcement. They said recently that they are still on track with their original development roadmap since it changed hands

>>729517208
chances are high that at least one of them is good

>>729522795
kennedy was always a scapegoat because people didn't know who was actually responsible for how the sequels turned out and needed to blame someone
i'm not defending her hiring and public decisions about the brand, but the sequels being turbo fucked is almost entirely jj's fault since they had to adhere to all the retarded shit he did in tfa after it released
i don't think anyone outside of production knew just how much contempt rian had for star wars during tlj, how were they supposed to know before he got hired?

>>729517208
>getting excited about soi wars
>in the current year
hand in your testicles

>>729522902
that's the big issue with hp's lore though
something gets named but we learn absolutely nothing about it or how it works, it just exists for that book and is only ever brought up again if rowling remembers it later

>>729523009
>it's not Kathleen's fault! It's just the fault of everyone she ever hired and refused to fire! People just want to scapegoat her because she's in charge!
Jesus Christ and I thought the "uhm acktually Filoni was George's protege (just ask Filoni!) so he's good for Star Wars" defense was retarded.

>>729520025
Kill Disney first. And then kill everyone who even knows what Star Wars is, yourself included. Only then can you ensure it remains dead.

>>729522494
Lucas changed his mind about shit all the time anyway. Even the retarded prophecy.

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>>729523009
Agreed mostly. JJ is the man who more or less ruined an entire era of Lucasfilm releases.

That being said I think they have learned lessons from that experience which will result in better projects going forward.
Without checking release dates, I don't think there has been a single project since Episode 9 that wasn't at least pretty good. We don't really get massive fumbles like we used to half a decade ago

>>729523096
Surely this could be reconciled

>>729522381
Given Disney killed off the whole High Republic after the shitshow that was TACO, definitely.

>>729523140
i'm not defending what kennedy did with the brand, but all her shit was mostly admin and shareholder related
stop listening to the mouthbreathers who still shit their ass about tlj on youtube and actually look into what was going on at lucasfilm from 2013 - 2019

>>729523238
The well is poisoned, buddy. The schism between the real franchise fans and the Reyverse troons will never be mended for as long as the latter exists in any way or form.

Only total destruction of Disney and its abominable desecration of the franchise (except maybe Rogue One) will allow a proper revival.

>>729523238
if we're talking vidya then yeah it's been alright i guess
if we're talking tv/ shows then nah, all the sw shows are almost infamously ass outside of filoni's sycophants claiming that the omega show feat. bad batch was good
only mando season 1 was decent, and even then i'd argue it was at best mediocre after the third episode

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>>729518054
Zero Company is the only one likely to release soon. Although I have a feeling it's just going to be casual XCOM.

>>729523238
>I don't think there has been a single project since Episode 9 that wasn't at least pretty good
>Book of Boba Fett
>Ahsoka
>Mandalorian season 3
>Obi-Wan Kenobi
>The Acolyte
These are all terrible.

>>729523496
Keep Andor and S1-S2 of The Mandalorian.

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>except maybe Rogue One
in many ways, RO was worse for the franchise than the ST, because it snuck nu-wars mentality into the original trilogy instead of fucking off a century later where everyone can ignore it like the sequels did

>>729522872
No, I didn't. Shut the fuck up.

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>>729523356
>killed off the whole High Republic
They got to the end of the multimedia roadmap. There's nothing left to say on the topic until a new author wants to do something in the era

>>729517208
ayo fr 2030 finna be litty fr

>>729523237
Well well well. So they can translate likeness into models.

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>Trandor
that shit is Star Wars for people who don't like Star Wars
it is the Daniel Craig James Bond of Star Wars

>>729523558
Like I said I didn't check dates, but Book of Boba and Kenobi are the only projects I'd consider total garbage
>>729523529
>infamously
Kek maybe on 4chan and Twitter.

>>729523356
>killed
More like didn't actually DO anything with it beyond some shitty comics. Disney made every single wrong decision with Star Wars and it would be hilarious if they didn't kill it in a decade.

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>>729523238
>I don't think there has been a single project since Episode 9 that wasn't at least pretty good.
Literally every single project after The Rise of Skywalker was absolutely irredeemable ass cheeks except for Andor. Just like every single Disney Star Wars project before Episode IX. They have shown literally zero growth from any of their failures in literally any way.

>>729523009
Actually, the sequels are 100% the fault of Filoni despite what his tranny discord army that worships him would have you believe. The story and lore of those films was written entirely by Filoni and his story group board rooms full of feminists that HE WAS IN CHARGE OF.

>>729522795
>and we've gotten what we asked for, I've decided I hate the new head of the franchise'
I hated Filoni since TCW debuted. I hated mando fags since the mid 2000s. mfw Mandofurries won

>>729517208
Fate of the old republic is all that matters

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All I care about is that Gungans will probably start getting to be in SW media again now that the Jar Jar Binks hate has finally largely burned out.

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>>729523738
>but Book of Boba and Kenobi are the only projects I'd consider total garbage
You deserve Disney Star Wars and Dave Filoni.

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>high republic initiative is over for now
so what happened to marchion ro and /ourgirl/

>>729523752
>>729523558
Refusing to have nuance makes it hard to take your opinion seriously.

>>729523752
Black chicks and lore you don't like don't actually make a project bad
>But they chant!
Thats now how it works

>>729524116
Trandor troons are the most insufferable of all star wars fanatics, and that's saying a lot considering there are still deranged lunatics out there who sincerely want the Yuuzhan Vong back

>>729523690
FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO GETS CRAIG'S MOVIES WERE NOT TRUE BOND FILMS!

>>729524116
I really don't give a shit if some Filonitard "takes my opinion seriously" given that Filonitards aren't serious people. You are idiot consoomers that will praise anything that Disney shits out on a plate.
If Disney did something worthwhile I would praise it. Oh look, I praised Andor in that very post. What lack of nuance I have.

>>729523752
What is happening here?

>>729523921
You're a big Narse and Banna da Boi fan aren't you?

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>>729523661
Tina is so beautiful, it would be impossible for them to uglify her.

>>729524283
She is filling the blue lightsaber crystal with her rage, tormenting the sentient Force sensitive crystal and turning it red.
Because that's Disney Star Wars, baby.

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>>729524283
Pouring dark side energy into a kyber crystal is what turns it red. It's happened in a few projects now

>>729523237
>>729524347
I think Deborah Willson has it in her contract that she can never be portrayed as human she looks IRL

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>>729524347
>it would be impossible to uglify her
do not be so sure

>>729524404
>>729524435
wtf has this only been a thing since disney wars? Why didn't it happen with Anakin in episode 3?

>>729517208
the nortubel of star wars

>>729517208
Didn't the kotor remake get cancelled. I didn't care anyways since it was snoy exclusive

>>729524283
>>729524404
>>729524435
the wandification of lightsabers is so fucking dumb
in all of lucas' films they were just a tool, a weapon the jedi used, no more, no less
now they're controlled by feelings and don't work right if they dislike the wielder because they didn't defeat their previous owner in honorable combat and change colour for some reason

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>>729524627
It's typically something done only with intention. Vader did his right after Ep3

>>729524627
>has this only been a thing since disney
yes
>why didn't it happen to Anakin
usually you have to try to do it and it's supposed to be a very traumatic event. She is doing it on accident because the casing of the lightsaber is broken and she is making physical contact with the crystal.

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>>729524610
Respawn versus Massive devs

>>729523752
The only thing I remember from this thing was Darth Plagueis' cameo

fuck fallen order and that punchable faced ginger faggot and his quips

>>729524435
In Reyverse canon, in other words, worthless lies.

In true canon, lightsaber crystals can be of any color, even red. The reason Sith had disproportionate amounts of red lightsabers was because they'd found methods to synthetically grow their own crystals.

Also, lightsabers weren't just those living Kyber rock things, but could be of several different materials, like metals and krayt dragon pearls.

>>729524404
>She is filling the blue lightsaber crystal with her rage, tormenting the sentient Force sensitive crystal and turning it red
I'm pretty sure Sith had red lightsabers because they used synthetic since they weren't hippies who would go out on mystical soul searching to locate natural ones like the Jedi did. Red crystals were simply easier to get.

>>729524116
What nuance would you have me offer here? BOBF and Kenobi are inarguably atrocious, and that won't change just because I acknowledge that Kenobi has my favorite performance of McGregor's in the part. Ahsoka and Mandalorian S3 were total wastes of time at best. I actually did like some parts of The Acolyte but the story takes a severe nosedive to facilitate the sisters trading places.

You'll notice I didn't mention Andor or Skeleton Crew because I think the former is great and the latter is decent, if a bit flat. What do you want? Me to pretend Ray Stevenson staring off into the distance is interesting?

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>>729525024
You don't remember head lesbian space witch turning into a Nazghul, getting stabbed, and the story trying to convince you that the Jedi were in the wrong for stabbing this demon as it disintegrated a little girl?
Or that after turning the lightsaber red, she invents Force Choke?

>>729524707
>they were just a tool, a weapon the jedi used, no more, no less
Kyber was mystified in the EU loooong before Disney, and honestly it's better off this way.
The core of a lightsaber having a sort of connection to the force is much better than Lightsabers just being like, the most practical weapon the Jedi could come up with

>>729525214
>Me to pretend Ray Stevenson staring off into the distance is interesting?
Rey Stevenson doing that was indeed the most interesting part of Ahsoka. Much more interesting than the stronk women crossing their arms and staring silently at eachother for thirty seconds at a time.
Shame he died.

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>>729525214
>>729525379
I just liked seeing someone finally use the Strong stance.

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>>729524303
Only when they draw gungans.

>>729525428
He was unusually cool for a Filoni creation. Probably because he never actually does anything besides being cool and mysterious. A walking mystery box.
A walking mystery box probably filled with disappointment.

isn't eclipse on indefinite hiatus (i.e cancelled)

>>729525341
they had some fantasy elements to them in the old eu, yes, but nothing on the scale they're at now
iirc it was just that you needed to use the force for construction, and it was very difficult for a non force user to effectively wield one
kotor 2 also had the personalized crystal but iirc it was really only there until tcw

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>>729524813
What in the fuck can they add in the next game?

star wars fans are massive manchild tantrum throwing faggots . none of them know what they want

>>729525428
>>729525508
Shame the actor died immediately after the show came out so Filoni replaced him with pedophile groomer Liev Schrieber.

>>729525586
I want sex with alien women

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>>729524813
Windswept hair looks great on him. Should've been the default.

>>729525586
>none of them know what they want
Only if you imagine Star Wars fans as being a big idiot collective rather than the factions that they are.
>OT Purists
>PrequelChads
>generic fans of the first six movies
>TCW-Filonitards
>[placeholder for where Sequels fans would go if they existed, but don't]
All know what they want, but they hate the other factions.

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>>729524813
as a scout trooper IRL all I can say is GIWTWM

>>729525545
Even when they announced it 4 -5 years ago, they said it wouldn't be out until 2027 or 2028 at the earliest. In other words, they announced a game that wasn't even being worked on yet and David Cage has since implied he's in no hurry on it (he's also got another game he's working on lmao)

>>729525713
If Disney was smart they'd be catering to everyone in some ways, but they focused on the sequel trilogy entirely. Running joke is they don't want to touch anything, and even went so far as to classify it as Legends, so they don't have to pay royalties to any of those creators.

>>729524813
Crazy that Survivor manages to have lower loading times on HDD than Outlaws.

>>729525806
I can only imagine interest fizzled out as Disney absolutely botched the license. Suddenly your game is no longer guaranteed to print money on license alone.

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>>729525713
All I want is trooper kino, be it storm or clone.
If it's watchable media, make it Generation Kill/Band of Brothers but Star Wars.
If it's playable media just make a new battlefront.

Maybe now we'll get a proper classic Battlefront 3. The problem though is I still don't trust EA so whatever they do will automatically be shit

>>729517208
Whatever happened to Star Wars:Galaxies?

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>>729525898
because they patched the shit out of it. and removed denuvo at one point.

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>>729525809
I'd argue that the Sequels leaned in hard in trying to cater to the OT Purists. When that failed, they began to push for the Prequels fans in The Mandalorian, which worked for a bit but quickly fizzled out (why the FUCK is a galaxy trodding bounty hunter flying around in a one seater Naboo Starfighter). Now that Filoni has full control, they are firmly in the realm of the TCW retard zoomers.

>>729525586
Do us all a favor and die, Kathlyn. We hate you and everything made under your tyranny.

We will take SW back and ensure you and your rat overlords can NEVER corrupt it again.

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>>729525948
that made me try my hand at TORtanic once

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>>729525979
Gonna post one more just because.

>>729517208
>KOTOR "Remake"
Assuming it actually releases it's going to be horrible
>Star Wars Eclipse
Barely any info about this and it's probably still years away from release
>Zero Company
Has a pretty decent chance of being good
>FOTOR
Still years away from release, current outlook not good
>Galactic racer
Could be good but racing games don't get much attention
>Jedi 3
Cal Kestis is overrated, those games were not fun.

>>729525969
Got casualized and then even more casualized and then killed itself.

>>729525806
sounds like typical disney nonsense where they announce something that doesn't exist solely for (((market research)))

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>>729525908
>Suddenly your game is no longer guaranteed to print money on license alone.
wouldn't be the first to realize that

>>729526192
That's exactly it. Every single game in the OP is the same situation. Same with all the movies Kathleen has announced in the past 8 years. None of them are coming out.

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>>729526153
do you have screenshots of troopers? luv me troopers, simple as

>>729517208
Top 2 games are essentially already cancelled btw.

TBQH I wish we could get a successor to Empire at War. Wonder if the rumors are still true and CA, maybe after making the base of Total War 40k, will end up making a Star Wars one, since a Star Wars one would largely only be a reskin of 40k in that way. Maybe with a stronger focus on heroes then and working like a mix of 3 Kingdoms and 40k Total War or something.

>>729517208
All with Denuvo, right?

>>729525239
Same people who complained Abeloth, will look at this and say ''I HECKIN LOVE DISNEY WARS''.

>>729526345
Star Wars Total War would have been so much better than more cringe ass Warhammer garbage. It looked like Dawn of War 4 too rather than a Total War game so I don't understand the point at all. The scale was massively trimmed down.

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>>729526296
Sadly not in action.

>>729526429
At least Abeloth was a cool eldritch monster villain. The stupid nigger witch was just a raging lesbian.

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>>729525564
>What in the fuck can they add in the next game?
Hopefully add new customizable hairstyles for Merrin, based on all of Tina's irl hairstyles

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>>729518327
Seeing how they included speeders and speeder bikes instead of just pod racers tells me they missed the fucking point.

>>729526210
>remember seeing the teaser thinking it's similar to Ultimate Alliance
>it's a card game
Into the trash it went.

>>729526173
>>Jedi 3
>Cal Kestis is overrated, those games were not fun.
They're solid games, but REALLY designed by committee checking of whatever was popular.

>>729526459
Warhammer and Star Wars were part of the same leak. The SW game is all but confirmed now.

>>729526591
200cc mode with podracers. Trust.

>>729525564
More saber stances, though make them more convenient to change between and I imagine dark side powers since Cal is just starting to explore them, especially with the dark side ability that replaces the slow ability.

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>>729526296
>do you have screenshots of troopers? luv me troopers, simple as

>>729526429
>>729526540
If Filoni doesn't bring in an even more lame version of Abeloth to serve as the Mother to the absolutely retarded Mortis gods Father, Son, and Daughter, I'll eat my hat.

I just finished playing Jedi:Survivor and it was slightly disappointing. It wasn't terrible, but I'm far more inclined to replay Fallen Order than ever touching Survivor again.

This doesn't really give me much optimism for more Star Wars games going forward, but we'll see.

>>729526609
I kinda respect them for not giving in to the pressure to make Merrin gay after that one book, so at least there committee design worked out in our favor

>>729526779
my problem with survivor was that I kinda burned myself out on the game by trying to explore too much
if I just kept it to the storyline the experience would have been far better

>>729526767
Abeloth was written as the Mother to begin with. Her story was a tie in to that Mortis story arc.

>>729526779
I felt the same way. Fallen Order felt like a perfect tight game, Survivor couldn't resist going a little too far with some of the open world elements and the story didn't hit for me.

Hopefully the third game sticks the landing.

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>>729517208
>still one of the best SW games 20 years later
How hard could it be to make another game like Rogue Squadron?

>>729526853
The author put a self-insert into the book and I believe Respawn had barely any input. It's generally considered a bad book by right about everyone who are fans of the game, even gay people.
Like it's a genuine "authors fetish" type of book.

>>729517208
>It is so over

>>729524204
The Vong were great, a fantasy styled villain faction in a scifi coded fantasy was a fantastic idea, and having a prolific fantasy author write their first appearance was perfect. NJO was hit and miss overall, and floundered with the introduction of Zonama Sekot, but that's not the Yuuzhan Vong's fault.

>>729526936
Ah, so she was. For some reason, I thought she was an EU invention from around the year 2000. I didn't realize she first appeared in books in 2009.

>>729522345
HP merch + the theme park + the shitty stageplay still make good money and the ubisoft game was the best selling game of 2023. I don't like HP but it's in an infinitely better position than Star Wars is now.

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>>729526984
I hated that book so so so fucking much. It's insufferable.

I don't hate modern Star Wars, I don't even hate woke LGBT stories and characters. I HATED this book.
Hours of Cal and the gang bickering while Marron pipes a lesbian chick. That's all it is.

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>>729526981
I hate to be the bearer of bad news

>>729527273
phasma is funny because she's a literal nothingburger character in the movies

>>729527273
>Light of the Jedi Kino
>Phasma S
What were you smoking?

>>729524204
Fuck Jedi, Jedi suck, lightsabers suck. They are boring and uninteresting, and I'm glad Mandalorian was at its peak of popularity when we didn't see them and went to shit and lost all relevance the moment Jedi and Empire shit took over the series.

And the Vong were kino. New Jedi Order was the Prequel Trilogy of the books, not appreciated in its time because of minor issues in execution. They absolutely should be brought back; just fixed, not outright kept away. Retards who say otherwise are the same subhumans who said Star Wars shouldn't have politics in it because of the Prequels only to be blindsided when the Sequels did that exact thing and didn't make any sense because of it.

>>729526779
I thought it was a great game with a super lackluster and unfocused story. It had multiple plot threads that were pretty strong but too many main villains and instead of picking a lane and sticking to it, it half-assed all of it and then just sort of ends. Dagan Gera was a cool villain to focus on, but the game spent more time having you deal with the alien pirate he was working with instead. And then threw Darth Vader in briefly when he wasn't really needed (I'll never complain about seeing Vader kick ass, but that section could have been left out for part 3 imo). And finally, the twist villain (if you can call it that since it was pretty obvious from the start imo). I felt like the game had multiple moments where there could have been major emotional payoff that mostly never come. And the ending was majorly depressing and lacking in resolution

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>>729527273
Any good recommends? I've read plenty of legends books but very few disney ones.
Did read the Rise of the Red Blade, but I feel like it was more suited for a teenage girl. (and the book even admits it). Surprisingly mature about some of the content though for a one-off comic character.

I loved the novelization of Episode 3 and Darth Plagueis book

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>>729527273
the book was written by Sam Maggs, if you know anything about her you know she does this deliberately. her main accomplishments in the gaming industry are taking established characters and trying to make them gay, i shit you not
it's best to just ignore the book, everyone hates it and it seems respawns ignores it as well

>>729526976
>>729526929
I think the open world aspects does somewhat hit the nail on the head with it. In the first game you could do a little in-ship garden and that was fine, but in the second one you had this whole village with a rooftop garden and all these collectibles but if I wanted to play an RPG I'd be playing an RPG and that's not what I expect from the Jedi games.

There's also issues with the story, it does somewhat smooth over later on, but early on when freeing the albino jedi from bacta (which is odd that simple bacta would preserve someone so long, I think) it seems kind of contrived the way he turns on Cal, I feel like they should've focused more on making him crazy out of the gate or just rewritten the whole thing.

Even with Rayvis it seems kindof odd like Disney forced them to write this High Republic tie in but it just comes across as out of place.

Vader showing up again later on also seemed a little forced, like they're just double dipping because it worked so well in the finale of the first one but it just comes across as performative the second time around.

I did like that Merrin and Cal got to develop their romance more, I had heard some dyke had written a book trying to sideline that or something and when she showed up with a new look I thought it might've held true (I did mod her original outfit back onto her though, it helped too). I wish my favorite IPs weren't full of things like this where culture wars are being waged over it, but I guess that's a whole different topic even if it does impact the overall experience a little bit, and that's not even getting into the part where the ancient High Republic jedi could only be defeated by the spirit of the strong black woman who possesses Cal at the final hour right before a segment where you're forced to play as Cere.

>>729527662
which is still somewhat unusual, usually when an author like that turns an established character gay LGBT communities jump on it to decry returning to original characterization as homophobic

the fact Respawn just rejected the book's entire existence was a surprise, but a welcome one

>>729527557
No. Ignore anyone who says any of Disney's dogshit books are good. They are awful. Every single fucking one.

>>729527273
kys Disney shill. All of those book are trash and NOT Star Wars. Utterly soulless cancer.

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>>729527897
It's basically pic related and everyone knows it. The guys at Respawn likely were gunning for Cal and Merrin to have a relationship. So they likely didn't get too much of a say in the book before it released.

>>729527557
I haven't read any of Disney's works despite owning pretty much every post RotJ EU novel at one point
>no longer own most of YJO, as they were given to a younger relative long ago
I have heard Zahn's new Thrawn books are the best Disney has to offer, which isn't surprising. Nothing I've heard has indicated them being of similar quality to his original trilogy or duology, but stillborn best bet.

>>729527425
>>729527427
In retrospect I might knock down Light of the Jedi. A big part of what makes it enjoyable is how it establishes the new era, but I don't know if it's fair to rank a book on the eras aesthetic alone while the other books could have done just as good of a job.

Phasma is unironically excellent though. That book is stellar. Great worldbuilding, great characterization, great writing, and a really surrealist grim aesthetic that the franchise usually isn't brave enough to tackle.

>>729527557
Depends what you are into. Catalyst and Bloodline are both political kino. The former is about the imperial tensions of the death stars creation and written by Luceno who did Plaguis and a lot of NJO stuff.
Bloodline is more character driven and actually establishes Sequel Trilogy lore in a very satisfying way that you wouldn't expect. It's essential reading if you are trying to get the most out of the new canon and its continuity on top of being genuinely very compelling.

The Alphabet Squadron Trilogy is a sleeper hit by a new author. It's the most woke of the recs if you care about that, but also the most gratifying with really really strong character arcs. Imagine the X Wing novels if they were to focus more on relationships on the battlefield

>>729523752
Vision was okay

>>729528183
I've read them (well, listened to them on audible, which is very well read) and they are not half bad. The books go over Thrawn's career, his tactics, his relationship with Anakin and even some rarely talked about stuff like the ISB. Thrawn is portrayed just as cunning in the books as he always has been. So I'd give them a go.

>>729526459
Low unit count is only in the Space Marines (around 5 entities per unit), which is canon friendly, so that a full army of 20 units has a total of 100 entities. So a full chapter Battalion (one chapter has 10 Battalions, so 1,000 Space Marines tops).

Units of the Orks and Imperial Guards are 100+ entities per unit.
So if you play as Imperial Guard you have the traditional Total War experience down to realm management (while Space Marines are more of a Horde Faction that gifts conquered worlds to the Imperial Guard and can only build outposts on allied systems).

Approach of 40k Total War now is that each faction should play COMPLETELY differently on the campaign layer. I.e. Eldar will have the old school population mechanic where recruiting units reduces your population and it takes time for that population to be restored. If their population is not high enough then you can't recruit any new units. Orks will likely have some mechanic that builds into their fungal nature, like you need to spread spores across planets and once the spore density is high enough you can probably just recruit units anywhere (so probably like the "Raise Dead" mechanic from Warhammer Fantasy).

>>729527897
>usually when an author like that turns an established character gay LGBT communities jump on it to decry returning to original characterization as homophobic
Nah, you're confused. Usually that comes from "allies" and "Twitter fags" which are different to the gay/etc community at large. Actual fags usually hate obvious "rainbow washing" shit, half because nobody likes really obvious pandering and half because it's usually a character none of the fags actually like. Overwatch is a really good example of this; they make a character gay every single time they get bad press and yet every single one of the ones they've made gay is either one only straight dudes cared about to begin with (i.e. Tracer) or only one only self-described "queer ally" chicks care about (i.e. Soldier 76) since those types are the ones making the calls.

>>729527897
Nobody would admit it here, but most people who appreciate gay stories still need the story to actually be good.

If the high Republic was half as bad as people said, it would be held in the same regard but that is not the case despite also being woke

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>>729527557
Don't. Just don't. The EU was unparalleled kino. Disney's version is lazy garbage churned out by Tumblr leftists and AI. Nothing but LGBT romance, reddit cringe, and the book equivalent to modern D&D rulebook art (pic related)

>>729528419
tl;dr

I don't give a fuck, it looks like dogshit and tabletop rules need not apply. I want TOTAL WAR. The game series built on massive scale battles with thousands of soldiers per side massacring each other. If they aren't giving that then it isn't Total War, it's just Dawn of War 4: 2.

>>729524204
>Trandor troons are the most insufferable of all star wars fanatics
Yeah cause we won the narrative war and you lost. The Sequels WERE made for the fans, they are exactly the films the fans screamed to shit and back that they wanted since ROTS. That's why they are bad, because they are made to appeal to Star Wars fans. Star Wars fans are retarded mongoloids and should not receive any sort of pleasure or experience any joy. Quality Star Wars is built on the humiliation and embarrassment of this group, not making good products, but just making shit this specific demographic hates.

Rogue Squadron, Republic Commando, and 99% of the original Battlefront games did not give a flying fuck about the Force and they were kino because of it. If faggots like you had control, we would get the OT over and over again. This isn't even a theory. We literally saw you retardsbmake the OT again from 2015 to 2019. Why the fuck should anyone ever waste their time listening to retards like you again?

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>All EU is good
>All Canon is bad

Surely nobody sees an opinion like this and thinks it should be taken seriously. People who actually read know it's not the case, and people who don't are still probably smart enough to tell when someone is just seething over Disney

>>729517208
I wonder if some of those games are named like that because George would get a cut if they named them after the well known series

>>729527352
Is it good though?

>>729528183
His nu-Thrawn books are soulless trash. Anyone telling you otherwise is a literal Disney shill. Zahn phoned it in for a paycheck and figured if they were going to ruin his character then he might as well do it himself. And that he did. Boring, shitty books that have him larping as Sherlock Holmes solving mysteries instead of being a tactical genius on the battlefield.

>>729528419
In other words the only faction the AI will be able to pilot in campaign is the imperial guard. Meanwhile the other factions will recruit a one half-stack before it stops functioning and loses all its territory. CA cannot make non standard factions work.
t. 6 gorillion hours played in Warhammer total war

>>729528834
>I wonder if some of those games are named like that because George would get a cut if they named them after the well known series

Am I seriously discussing Star Wars with 14 year olds right now?

>>729528831
It's absolutely the truth. The EU was based and is the only canon. None of Disney's garbage is canon, and none of it is good.

when was a jedi survivor sequel even announced? I don't remember that.

>>729528904
He said that the Ascendency trilogy was the first time he ever used his full creative freedom with the franchise

>>729528701
I have no idea why people want more Jedi shit anyways. That plotline at its best was just a Samurai movie series with a coat of paint. A good Samurai movie series, sure, but the alien stuff was always way more interesting.

Fuck, if Star Wars was really run by competent people we would have had a Star Wars version of Redline but with Pod Racers YEARS ago.

>>729528419
Retarded tabletop autistic apologist. It should not be adhering to cringe board game rules. Every unit in every faction should be over at least 120-150 individual units. Simple as.

>>729528997
Some of the EU was based, some of it was retarded (see: Dark Empire). All of Disney Wars is retarded.

>>729528239
>The Alphabet Squadron Trilogy is a sleeper hit by a new author.
He also did the Battlefront book which was pretty good called Twilight Company

>Still no Battlefront with Galactic Conquest

We will never be back until this changes.

>>729517208
Yah, I never cared about Star Wars as a setting. Hell, it's not just Star Wars. I feel the same about any Space Sci-Fi setting, they are all just so lame and boring.
>Well what do you like? Huh?
Fantasy is objectively superior.

>>729528831
You can't just make the Sequel Trilogy, Filoniwars, and structure the one good thing in Disneywars, Andor, like an EU book, and expect people to not come to this conclusion. What is Disney supposed to do? They can't point to how retarded and insane the Suncrusher's rules are when Starkiller Base literally has to switch between always having been mobile to always having been stationary from scene to scene for the plot to happen. They can't point to Luuke when he's a product of the Thrawn storyline, and that story embarasses their Thrawn so badly.

>>729529201
Andor is awful, comparing it favorably to the EU is the ickest of icks. Don't insult the EU like that, it wasn't leftist cancer like that TDS show.

>>729529201
Well don't be surprised when someone says every EU book is shit because they don't like that Palpatine knew about the Vong

>>729529201
The EU also does the resurrected Palpatine plot better in Dark Empire than episode 9 did, and everybody mocked the shit out of Dark Empire when Disney bought Star Wars and used it as an example of why gutting the EU was a good thing

>>729529197
Star Wars is fantasy dough.

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>>729523542
Zero company looks dope
>>729518054
Galactic Racer is coming soon too, definitely. It is being made by Fuse Games which is the original Criterion games studio. It is literally one block away from the old Criterion studio. The original Burnout devs and the guys that made NFS Most Wanted. It is going to be kino. I just hope the physics for crashes are as good as Burnout. I want fiery explosions.

Rogue One is the only good thing Disney has made with star wars.

>>729528529
Star Wars is on such a strong upswing that niggas are using D&D stuff as an example of why it's bad

>>729529535
>TDS show
Not trying to start anything, but I'm genuinely curious how this is the case? I just started watching it.

>>729529535
Low entropy take.
You lost.
Andor won.
There is a debate to be had on whether Star Wars was ever good at any point prior to Andor.

>>729521038
George was blackmailed out of Star wars because its the only thing that makes sense.
He loves it and was still making content for it, why lost control over it?
He clearly did not need the money.

Star wars is very white, it has tons of our culture in it IE redemption, good vs evil, heroes journey.
Makes sense because jews are on a mission to destroy everything white. All it would take is some footage of George at a party fondling some hot jailbait and they could black mail him.

>>729528239
>establishes Sequel Trilogy lore in a very satisfying way
>Sequel trilogy
>satisfying
>essential reading if you are trying to get the most out of the new canon
>essential
>implying Disney is canon
>Alphabet Squadron Trilogy is a sleeper hit by a new author. It's the most woke
>really really strong character arcs
>most woke

Disgusting. Looks like we have an honest to god Disney marketer on our hands.

>>729529545
Even EUfags mocked Dark Empire for years.

>>729529681
The show is insanely leftist. Season 2 is unwatchable.

>>729529645
Nobody even remembers fuck all about Rogue One other than the Darth Vader hallway scene. It's the most nothing movie out of all Star Wars films. It's not as offensively bad as the Sequels and Solo, but it barely adds anything to Star Wars and Andor's existence makes it a worse movie.
Also it makes Princess Leia look like a fucktard in the opening of ANH when she tells Vader she was on a diplomatic mission like he didn't just watch her fly out of the Battle of Scariff.

>>729526602
Ultimate Alliance got a decent-ish sequel finally but it was a Switch exclusive sadly. But all the characters were gorgeous and they gave Captain Marvel cake.

>>729529813
I believe it. That and the vitriol for the prequels was mostly manufactured to essentially bully George into selling. Its hard to stick to your vision when it seems like everyone hates you.

>>729529813
>George was blackmailed out of Star wars because its the only thing that makes sense
Not really. He wanted to retire. That's all there is to it.

>>729529885
And it's still better than what Disney did with RotSw

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>>729530060
RLM and their Gen-X army of rabid Lucas hating retards had to watch Luke Skywalker get raped on screen and Mark Hamill had to smile and market it.
Hahahahaha. Add that stanza to "George Lucas Raped Our Childhood" you fucks.

>>729530160
>yes its time to relax
>lets hand over my cultural passionate giant of a creation to the people that ruin everything they touch
>only then can I relax

>>729529668
lmao

Star Wars is completely dead and buried. The only upswing is the last shovel of dirt being dumped on the coffin.

>>729529761
Embarrassing post from a predictable Disney tranny from /tv/. Andor is literal dogshit and worse than the sequel trilogy somehow.

>>729529919
Can you elaborate?

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>>729517208
I just want a new Battlefront game that covers all time periods of Star Wars, especially the Mandalorian Wars and the Clone Wars. But no equipable pay-to-win or grind-to-win cards that change gameplay. Vehicles that spawn on a timer at bases rather than just pop into existence with someone in them. Heroes should be handled entirely at random. Every 60 seconds a dice roll happens and someone gets the option to respawn as a hero or say no, if no it rolls again and goes to the next person, etc, to prevent camping the hero spawn.
Also transition from land to space combat or space combat allowing docking of troop transports to hangers to move to foot combat inside a large space structure. I'd love it if we could trust the BF6 guys with this task as Frostbite with photogrammetry like nuBFII is pure sex to look at but I seriously doubt we could trust them to not fuck it up with pay-to-win bullshit and cringe.

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>>729529960
I like the scene where Krennic regains consciousness and sees the Death Star looming above him. Cinema.

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>>729521161
Anon there are only TWO film companies that control 99.999999% of the film industry. Disney at 60% and Sony at 40%. He sold to Disney because they offered 3x as much money. That's it. No other reason.

>>729529681
Some faglords want to relive their childhood exactly as it was over and over again with no changes. Andor being good doesn't just threaten that, they wouldn't be so terrified of Andor it that's all there was to it. No, Andor proves the Prequels sucked solely due to execution and they could have been good if George had been reigned in. That's the scariest thing to these emotionally stunted faglords can be told, because it means Star Wars can do things different from the OT and explore other elements of its world other than the same fucking shit the OT did over and over again.

Look back at how they reacted between the Disney buyout to 2017 when TLJ released and you'll see these faggots totally maskoff, celebrating getting the samething over again explicitly, solely, and entirely, because it was the same thing over again. These types praise the EU when it suits them, but then throw swipes at it as needed because the EU often explored new things, and while a lot of it sucked, a lot of the good EU shit challenged the precious childhoods of this particular brand of emotionally stunted faggot. Hence, the GenX untermensch who pilled on how KOTOR 'missed the point of Star Wars and never should have been beloved' between the 2012 and 2017 when it was, briefly, safe to shit on KOTOR, which is and, prior to 2012, was, too beloved to shit on; but for that brief span there was a push to bury everything other writers did better. It's funny because these same faggots will call me a Prequel lover and take my comments out of context to make it seem like that's what I'm doing; but their entire worldview comes from fellating George's retarded opinions while I praise the EU for elevating his flawed writing.

>>729523590
Rogue One is the only good Star Wars movie in 23 years.

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>>729523752
>Andor
Disney finally realized they were producing something unfathomably based by season 2 of Andor and cancelled the project so the creators had to rush 3 seasons worth of content into 1. Sad. Was great but man what it could have been hurts to lose.

>>729530725
Pathetic bait. Sent.

>>729530247
>the people that ruin everything they touch
That's not how Lucas saw it at the time. My guess is he's still more sympathetic than the average fan. Regardless, Lucas was more concerned with Lucasfilm's survival. It's not like the company was in a great place in 2011-2012. He realized SW might need more movies but didn't really want to invite that stress on himself. So he hired Kennedy, came up with some loose sequel ideas while in a mall food court, and sold the company.

>>729530880
From what little I watched of Andor it was WAY too subversive for Yidsney to be happy with it.

>>729530725
huh, I had no idea there were star wars fans that hated KotOR. KotOR 2 is probably my favorite piece of Star Wars media because it presents the setting in a very compelling way. I'm liking Andor so far too.

>>729530725
Lazy ragebait. Do better next time.

>>729529919
Just because all of the stereotypes of real-world fascism you're aware of are described by the dictionaries as right-wing despite their actual properties doesn't make generic anti-fascism against a sci-fi fantasy fascist regime somehow left-wing.
Andor is about people getting their hands dirty in order to combat genuine oppression before its grip becomes too tight for anyone to escape. The only way it would be comparable to the modern day leftist cancer would be if the rebels were the useful idiots of an actual totalitarian regime and the empire were the few sane people remaining who haven't been subjugated into silence.

>>729531051
Exactly. I can't believe Disney accidentally bankrolled two whole seasons. It was WAY to real.

>>729530405
Literally only chud youtube has that opinion though. In fact, the Fandom Menace glazed Andor so hard you'd think they were on its payroll, yet they don't glaze, praise, or even tolerate anything else from Star Wars despite all those shows having 10x the marketing and shill budget, so what gives?

Like fuck nigger, you lost, and by a lot. When people said 'the Sequels will be loved in 10 years' it didn’t happen, but it absolutely has happened to Andor in only 3. Andor had more defenders each year, as time passes, and at a much faster rate than the Prequels ever managed. It must be fucking embarrassing for you cause nothing but Andor is increasing in popularity. Everything else is currently trending downward.