It's the literal same experience as before. People are so fucking mad they can't own a piece of plastic.>nooo you don't get it I might want to play it in a brand new system that has no access to the internetThis won't ever happen>but what if Nintendo's servers go down!Valve will go under before Nintendo does. Japan, bitch>but Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the pastYes, back when they did not have key cards. Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they will
>performativeThis is the word. /v/ has been littered with a lot of performative hate against boogeymen that don't even exist. Indians being the most common one. RapeApe already confirmed there are no indians on 4chan, but /v/ still insists in bringing them up almost every single thread.>pic related, I'm not him btw
i feel like this place is just for twitterfaggots who are too scared to publicly post their bait>aquajeet
>>729533198They should have just went all digital.
>>729533198>>729533258Both of you niggers should have your heads slammed on a pike.
>>729533439>>729533314>no arguments just ad hominemI accept your concession
>>729533198>they need to support it forever, which they willthey can shut the servers down tomorrow if they feel like it and there's nothing you can do about it, read the TOS
PS4 did shit like this as far back as 2013keycards are literally nothing new
>>729533563next you're going to point to that part where it says they can "le brick your console" even though there have been zero (0) instances of that ever happening
>>729533557your argument should be ignored for typing like a nigger>nooooo i have to argue by saying this and using exclamation points noooo!
What cancerous thing will mentally ill tendie cultists defend next?
>Make a pro-nintendo thread>Post anti-nintendo bullshitOP, you know you can still re-download your Wii eshop purchases right? Like, right now. You can't purchase new things but you can re-download any purchase of every nintendo online shops, ever.
Hating anything is performative
>>729533198>Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the pastHuh? This isn't remotely true.
>>729533198>performativeis this a new jeet cope?anyway i'm not gonna fall for your jewish tricks
>>729533198>This won't ever happenZat's vhat you think.You vill eat ze bugs and have strict monthly Internet caps to save ze environment, und you vill be happy.
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willYou know if they do end support for it you'll just take it like a bitch
>performativeI don't think I've even shared my silent decision to not buy keycard games outside of this anonymous image board.
>>729533198>they need to support it forever, which they willHow's the 3ds eshop going these days?
Were you getting beat up too much in the Pokemon thread or something?
>>729533198>"Don't you guys have phones?!" the post
>>729534068You can re-download all your purchases, same as with the Wii-U and Wii.
>>729533198We get it, OP, you suck cocks. The real problem is the Switch's limited storage capacity combined with the time it takes to download these 50GB games. The Switch 2 should have had 512 GB of storage at the bare minimum if this was gonna be the generation to push physical digital games. Game Key Cards are all the inconveniences of physical and digital games with none of the conveniences of either format The single, solitary thing it has over digital is the ability to sell it.
>>729533198>nintendie cope threadseek help underage fag
>>729533557that's not an ad homy, bro.
>>729533925it still makes me giggle that the mere existence of insect-based foods made /pol/ niggers gaslight themselves into believing fanfiction that the entire world is going to be forced to eat it and nothing else
>>729533198Braindead consoomer tranny. Kill yourselfAnd if you're a marketing kike suit doing all you can to defend corporations then you need to kill yourself and your entire family to make sure your genes don't spreadKYS
>>729534182>Game Key Cards are all the inconveniences of physical and digital games with none of the conveniences of either format The single, solitary thing it has over digital is the ability to sell it.It has advantages over physical carts, running games from nand is faster
>>729533775>you can still redownload your owned games, you just aren't allowed to get anything you might want anymore :^)compelling argument
>>729534182>being so poor you can't afford a 512gb microsd>being so poor you can't afford basic fiber internetnot my problem
>>729533198>This won't ever happen>Valve will go under before Nintendo does. Japan, bitchYou know that Nintendo stopped supporting the Wii Shop Channel years ago, and not only can you not buy anything, but you also won't be able to download what you already bought in the future, right?>this option will also be discontinued in the futurehttps://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3764/~/how-to-redownload-wii-shop-channel-content-on-wiiYou'd have to be totally retarded to think that Nintendo would want to continue supporting something that's over 20 years old and no longer generates any profits
>>729534434Well, if you wanted a game why didn't you buy it at the time? Some games got a "remaster" version on a new console and ultimately after 19 years, you can easily pirate any game you want kiddo, in 19 years you will be able to pirate switch 2 games too.
>>729534226if they didn't want people to eat it, they wouldn't be advertising it at all. you have to get people used to an idea before you fully force it on them, and you can't just do that all at once either. kids these days are going to grow up where AI has always been a thing and they will think that they are dependent on it existing.
>>72953453220 years of support to download purchases is impresive, in 20 years from now sw2 games would be easily pirateable and probably emulatable. You could be even dead by then, why fear for something that has never happened?
>>729533198Man, nintendofags REALLY don't fucking like that the press cycle and community sentiment isn't going 100% their way this time around
>i can log into my backup nas, copy a game into my local drive and run it>these are games that came out last year, as well as games that came out in 1994>i don't have to connect anywhere, ask anyone for permission or anything>i just copy MY files that are on MY drivesmeanwhile nintenkeks have to go and lick big corporation's balls to play a game they "own" XD
>>729534182>The Switch 2 should have had 512 GB of storage at the bare minimumthis much is true, 256gb of space is a fucking joke and the internal storage has faster speeds than a micro sd express. valve and sony let you add your own ssds at least, having to buy micro sd express cards instead of an ssd is retarded. i swear the switch getting hacked buck broke nintendo.
>>729534673>grifters youtubers who make contrarian videos for views"community sentiment"kek
>>729533198>>but Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the past>Yes, back when they did not have key cards. Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they will
>>729534723crying about "grifters" is such stupid performative bullshit
>Japan, bitch
>>729534451I have a 512 MicroSD card. It's still not enough. SanDisk hasn't made a 1 TB one yet, and when they do it still won't be enough for these giant ass Switch 2 games.
>>729533198>Yes, back when they did not have key cards. Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willWhy are game keycards more important than digital games on older Nintendo consoles? You have/had to pay for both of them.
>still ZERO arguments itt for why key cards are badOP might actually have a point. I used to be anti-keycards just because of the /v/ hype, but now I'm questioning if that position holds any merit.
>>729535051shill post
>>729535051Buy all the Game Key Card games you want, no one has ever stopped you and there is no shortage of them. Have fun.
>>729533198>>729534451Consolefags have killed every argument they ever had over PCs.
>>729535051Because devs cheap out and none of the savings are passed onto me.
>>729533198I would perform the rape on your face for spreading this facetious shit
>>729533258/v/ is filled with mad broke incels that don't play video gamesthey use video games to vent out their frustration at their life and to band up together with other incels to gossip about the latest idpolitics outrage and eceleb drama
>>729533962OP will perform the bending over when that day comes
>performative I’m so sick of made up meme internet words right up there along with gaslight in my book fuck Reddit fuck the internet fuck women fuck Jews trannys and jannies
>>729533198don't care, if the game is a gamekey card, i won't buy it.and btw if the pc game has denuvo i won't buy it either. simple as that
>>729535051I'd rather buy digital at this point.
>>729535294Imagine making this post because someone insulted your favorite corporation.
>>729534182>The Switch 2 should have had 512 GB of storage at the bare minimumThis is what I thought about the other day too. This generation would have been better if they just bumped up the specs in certain regards.-instead of bundling Mario Kart, sell it separate for $60-increase on board storage from 500-1000 gigabytes-ditch the 120hz screen no game is ever going to use, make the screen about an inch bigger-use the extra compartment space to squeeze a bigger battery in there-maybe even throw the charge grip in the box if they're feeling frisky-welcome tour being free optional download or already installed-only consoles available are buck standard $500 onesfixed the launch.
What's the point of consoles again, you fags consneeded every advantage they ever had.
you can sell and buy cartridges. keys bind to your account
>>729533198Monkey niggers like you are why the video game industry thinks it can charge eighty bucks for games and do whatever they want.I will be pirating all switch 2 titles and emulating them on PC with a controller.FUCK YOU.
>>729535364I don't own nintendo stock, I don't care about nintendo and I never owned nintendo products in my life, I haven't mentioned nintendo once in my post for this exact reason so your retarded asspull of an argument makes no senseI'm just pointing out a basic fact and you are seething because you know it's true
>>729535128>>729535160>>729535336>>729535240>once again ZERO arguments against keycardsHoly shitToday I lived to see /v/ BTFO
>>729533198The real reason you should hate gay keycards is the fact that they offload the cost of storage onto the consumer. You used to decide if you needed to expand your storage or just go buy the cartridge, but now you don't really have a choice unless you several limit your options on what to play. Gay keycards are just Nintendo taking yet another wet shit into the open mouths of their fans. The only ones that suffer are you and the developers that have to decide between spending the extra money on a physical cartridge or taking the PR hit from using the keycards.
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willWhy would this be literally any different from a digital game to them?10 years from now all of these key cards will be out of print and in the secondhand market. Nintendo won't see any money from their sales, because they're "physical."So what incentive do they have to support games they aren't earning on?
>>729535051nom nom nom yummy boots, I will buy more storage, my best friend companies will count up more profit,
>>729533198>Japan, bitchThey're not even trying to hide it anymore, KEK.
>>729535659except every argument has been presented, you're just arguing in bad faith because you've been paid to do soyou're ALWAYS incredibly easy to spot
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willlol, lmao even
>>729533775>You can't purchase new thingsWhich is exactly why the key cards will stop working.
>>729533198I will pirate the games when switch 2 emulation is good enough.On this bitch of an earth you can only own what you steal.
>>729535693>So what incentive do they have to support games they aren't earning on?Goodwill.Nintendo is the most consumer-friendly company on the market.
by the time servers go down and you can't download key card games any more, you'll just be able to pirate everything
>>729533198You can easly pirate games on PC.Shitendos shit 2 is pirate proof right now.PC wins again.Fuck Nintendo and their jewish greedyness.
>>729534349But why would I buy a key card instead of just downloading it from the shopFor people who want a physical game... they aren't getting one.For people who want a digital game... they need to insert a physical cartridge to play it.It's the worst of both worlds.
>>729535668Just buy a 512gb sd card what's so hard about that? It's not even expensive
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they will
>>729535737Point one single argumentJust oneONE SINGLE ARGUMENTThere is literally none itt The only one people tried to present is "it forces you to buy storage" which is retarded. By this same logic the physical games also force you to buy the console that runs it. Absolutely stupid.
>>729533198>but Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the past>Yes, back when they did not have key cards. Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willMultimillion dollar class action lawsuit incoming
NDS thread.
>>729535861It allows you to sell the game which is undeniably an advantage
>>729535864>Just be forced to buy extra storage and then still pay full price for the game!
>>729535927surethere's no data on the card, that's itwhy would i buy a card, which has no data? that's just buying digital>no but you can sell itthen nintendo should just make games transferable between accounts, simple asbut they won't
>>729536103Yes, this is a Nintendo Dick Sucker thread.
>>729536219the same thing is true if you buy the game fully digital which a lot of people still prefer anyway.
>>729536102>Multimillion dollar class action lawsuit incomingYeah, Nintendo will be forced to pay $1.20 to every person who bought now useless key cards. That will show them.
>>729536128But nobody wants key cards
>>729536219>forced to buy extra storage You are also forced to buy the console to play the game, are you going to cry about it?You're forced to buy controllers, you're forced to buy food and water to survive too>then nintendo should just make games transferable between accountsThat would empower people that sell accounts which already happened a lot with the Switch 1 because of the family sharing system.
>>729535861I’m 1000% a tendie always have been always will be only own Nintendo and maybe 2 steam games and yeah key karts are pretty gay
>30 threads daily about how steamfags don't own their own games >1 ONE 1 thread about nintendofags not owning their own games>ITS ALL JUST PERFORMATIVE NONE OF YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS!yeah no shit sherlock its just shitposters baiting people. /v/tards are known to have 0 standards lol
>>729536102Anybody who indulges them in this practice should already be fully aware of what they're getting into. You can still download Wii, 3DS, DSi, and Wii U games you already own even though their shops are no longer active. At this point there is no reason to assume that this WILL happen to the Switch 2 even though it hasn't happened to any other console, and even if it ever does, It will likely be 3 or more console generations in the future.
>>729536367>you're forced to buy food and water to survive too>so that means it's okay to be gouged by a megacorporationkill yourself jeet scum sisterfucker
>>729536551>gouged by a megacorporationHave you perhaps considered not buying anything from them at all anymore? That's also an option.>I already don't buy anything from them anyway!!!Then great, you shouldn't even have an opinion on the matter.
>>729536348Yeah, that was always the concession you took for the convenience of going digital. However, you ALSO had the choice of just buying physical without ever worrying about storage unless you decided to buy DLC. Now you're pretty much forced to buy storage whether you're going physical or not because Nintendo doesn't want to pay for multiple storage options or work with third parties. It's literally just optimal to go full digital on switch 2 and I feel like that's the main thing Nintendo wants over just saving money.
>>729536628>reddit spacing.
I hope you all know it's primarily anti-piracy
>>729533198>performativeIs this the new meme? The anti AI fatigue ragebait didn't catch on?
>>729533198>I won't own anything, and I'm happy about it as long as I can CONSOOOOOOOOMOP is a raging fag as usual, who'd a thunk it?I take issue with pretty much every way Nintendo is conducting themselves with switch 2
>>729536854How? It's more like digital that you can sell
>>729533198People accepts PC games being digital only, accepts Call of Duty discs being 10mb installer, games coming with day 1 30gb patch but somehow buying a game key card and downloading a 7gb game is too much for them.
>>729533258fuck off. I'm not buying fake physical games.
>>729537264>People
>>729536857It sounds like a term people use when they want to sound smart.
>>729536897It's because when there is a Switch 2 emulator, they can start publishing all of the first party games on the key cards to prevent any leaks. They have to make sure anybody downloading the game early is authorized to actually play it.
>>729537264Digital PC games are far easier to back up and store than physical console games because the PC itself is an open platform you can do whatever you want on.CoD is some online MP grinding fuckfest, everyone is aware that once the MP servers are gone the plastic is useless.None of these really apply to the vast majority of games that get raped with game key cards. Most of 'em aren't MP and don't need online servers to function and since the console itself is a locked down DRMbox you cannot make backups of anything you download to it.
>>729533198>performativeIf you give me an option to own a game in a format that doesn't eat up hard drive space then I will gravitate towards it. That was the biggest reason I liked buying physical on Vita and Switch. Physical space is whatever. I do not like deleting games if I don't have to.
>>729536628>announcing a reportlmao get a load of this fakemod over here
>>729533198You're not even defending key cards, you're defending digital only.
Nintendo has a track record of dropping support for their online services faster than any other company. I do not trust anything that requires an online connection from them anymore.
>>729537264>PeopleDid you know that there are billions of those?Were you ever taught history?In the past, "people" didn't orbit their existences around phones and the Internet.Heck, never mind the past, if you wanted to purchase-play-download Switch 2 games TODAY but you lived in North Sentinel Island... that would be impossible!We don't even have to speak about Indonesia or 98% of the continent of Africa, there are literally dozens of American towns that do not even had RADIO towers, let alone Internet or satellite transmission useable for phones, like Elk River, Idaho or the famous Green Bank, West Virginia which is devoid of cellular waves.We call people like you, who are narrow-minded, childish, and devoid of outside-perspective as "naive." It is a negative characteristic.
I will not pay full price for a key card or digital download. I will not pay full price if the whole game isn't on the cartridge.
Are the games at least cheaper for being on these things than regular physical cartridges? Surely they’ll pass on the savings to their stupid cattle consumers
>>729537828You can still download anything you've ever bought from any eshop, even on the Wii. What you CAN'T do is buy new games through the eshop or play online, but you're not exactly going to find a robust community for games that old.
>>729537913Their digital games have always cost the same as buying them physically. Why would the key card cost less?
>>729534931>Todd slop on consoleswhy
GAME KEY DEFENSE FORCEFULL SAARPORT NINTENDO
>>729537854There are probably 5 gamers max if you pool the population of Elk River and Green Bank. Elk River isn't even one square mile. Sentinel island has uncontacted indigenous people living there. Your point is true but that doesn't make it relevant. Don't copypasta this again
>>729533198The problem is, once Nintendo Swich 2 eshop goes offline in 10-20 years, these physical keycard games will just be empty bricks.
>>729533198Weird that the only issue that matters for why I dislike them you didn't bring up. I don't want to download a game or store it on any other card. I want the card to pop in and play.
>>729537854>Green Bank, West VirginiaThey have a population of less than 200. I bet most of them are old people who don't even know what a Mario is.
>>729538265>people existing outside of my ideology of western culture in the year 2025>aren't relevent.>Therefore, my opinion of Nintendo Switch 2 key cards is inarguably true and I deserve praise.Oh.4chan, right. Wrong tab, oops!
Even the most slavish Nintendoids I know IRL don't defend key cards so OP must be an actual paid shill.
Disregarding also the fact that the games in Game Keys are PS4 tier in size when the Switch 2 has 256GB, quite a bit less than what was available on a ps4
>>729533198They're the worst of both formats. You have to download the game and take up storage AND have to make sure the right card is in before you can play. It's the downsides of both with the benefits of neither and you defend it because Nintendo did it.
>>729534931>Last played over a month agoYou don't even play any of these games retard
>>729537885Now, back to looking at my Steam wishlist
>>729533198It's just a physical and transferable copy of the digital rights you'd buy on Steam, PSN, Windows Store, or the Eshop.
>>729533258>performative>This is the buzzwordftfy
>>729539559So what? I want my games accessible without a huge ass download whenever I want to play something on a whim. You could tell me to buy physical if I want the luxury of instant access to all my games, but that brings us back around to these shitty ass Game Key Cards.
>>729539657I don't pay full price on steam either
I don't understand Nintendo "fans" who defend game key cards. You must be mentally braindead to support the idea of owning nothing. I have loved Nintendo and their games and consoles since 1994, when I first played the Super Nintendo. But it's absolutely ok to criticize corporate greed. It's ok to call out people who push for anti-consumer measures. It's ok to speak up and tell them how you really feel about this. I don't understand why people try to silence others. What is the reasoning behind this? You are mentally unstable if you can't accept that people don't want this. People want to own their games. Not a small minority, but the majority. People pirate old TV shows that are now available in 4K and 1080p for streaming. Why? Because they want to own the stuff, but it's not physically available. It's justified to pirate because people want to OWN their stuff. Last but not least, the game key cards are not Nintendo's fault. Plenty of third party publishers have already refused to use normal game cards during the NSW1 era. It's not that hard to understand that this is precisely what third party publishers asked for. How can people not realize that everything was arranged behind closed doors? I'll give you an example so you can imagine that third-party publishers have access to developer kits years in advance so they can develop games. But somehow, you can't imagine people in suits meeting years in advance to talk about game cards... the medium through which games are distributed and sold. It's justified to shit on Nintendo, but game key cards are not their fault. Street Fighter 6 is 50GB, including all the latest DLC, updates, and patches. And yet, Capcom didn't use the available 64GB game card. Instead, they released the game as a key card. tl;dr It's ok and justified to shit on Nintendo. Third-party publishers are far worse and are truly at fault. People who defend game key cards were molested as children and are mentally unstable.
>>729533198>key cardsThere is no reason for the consumer to buy one of those.
>>729534625>why fear for something that has never happened?>this option will also be discontinued in the futureCan't you read? Of course you don't care, because for you the present is what mattersYou don't care about preservation for the future, only what works for you nowI bet you don't care if a game has Denuvo, or you defend it like the idiot you are
It basically slashes one of the advantages that the console had, all the game was readily available on the cart and easily accessible.Now you have to insert the cart and wait in the cuckchair like the rest of the people you made fun for it in the past, with the advantage that you are now relying on Nintendo's slow ass CDN.
>>729540387it's actually snoys doing it
>>729534451>>729534931>>729539559Let me guess, the total cost of that Switch 2 with that micro sd and everything else is $1,000, right?Do you realize that all your arguments in defense of Nintendo fall apart when you don't treat money as a priority, but rather as something secondary?You're the same retards who buy games on day one just because of the hype and then complain when they come out with bugs
>>729539657>SteamWhat is this obsession that consolefags have with PC gamers?I think you need to port some games to PC, like Xbox and PlayStation do, so you can stop thinking about exclusives and yourselves
>>729540790>It basically slashes one of the advantages that the console had, all the game was readily available on the cart and easily accessible.They will ignore this fact and label you as a poorfag
>>729540387>go on bingtendos subreddit>search key cards>people hate itIf they don't want them I doubt any actual fan wants them. The only ones who do, do it to farm engagement since it will always cause others to backlash against the idea of supporting it.
>>729533198shill slave threadI'm sorry you're being forced to do this
>>729533198you are an obtuse, cunty faggot. like it's unreal just how fucking retarded one human being can manage to be.this was 100% designed to neuter the third party/used game market, you dumb, cunty , faggot bootlicking FAGGOT FUCKING CUNT.seriously, how can one person contain so much fucking cunty stupidity???? do you try to be this retarded? or is it just genetic? what the fuck is wrong with youYOU DUMB FUCKING CUNTY FAGGOT.
>>729535336And that's how they get you.
>>729541463it's because snoys wont go the fuck outside, bro
>>729541241Obviously, I don't know every subreddit, but on "NSCollectors", you will get banned for criticizing someone who bought a game key card. And people say the dumbest shit, like, "I just want something to display on my shelf"There is a very vocal minority who supports game key cards and tries to silence others.
>>729540387>"I like Nintendo, But"obvious flaseflagging.
>>729533198Genuine question, why would you ever buy a keycard?Isn't digital more convenient at that point?
I try to buy physical for games thats why I like consoles. but those game key cards are bad. I will never buy one. thats why ill still get original switch games and just nintendo exclusives from now on.
>>729541750Take your meds, tranny.
>>729533198You will own nothing and be happy.
>>729541950You can re-sell or lend keycards
>>729533198Faggots like you will never understand principle.Look at how, for example, the price of games crept slowly from $40, to $60, to $70 to $80+DLC and now $100 is on the menu despite games being more profitable than ever. A jump from $40 to $90 would be unthinkable, but gradual price hikes have the foundation of precedent; the world didn't end when $10 was added last year, what's to another?Same shit with horse armor -> dlc content -> microtransactions -> pay extra for the complete game -> always online live service slop.>Muh slippery slope!Owning your games should be common sense. Losing your shit when a server goes down should be unthinkable. It's the world we've lived in for years, sure, but it shouldn't be.Throw a bitch fit and go to war over that inch so stealing that mile looks more trouble than it's worth.
>>729533198>Valve will go under before Nintendo does. >Japan, bitchNintendo manchildren and their obsession with a pedo Island. Classic
>>729540387It's like traditional digital but better. Not really that confusing.
>>729542042Can you?Isn't the key tied to your account?
>>729542010>posts glorified keycards like GTAV and Smash brosSo you're ok with digital content on a physical format
>>729541567It's a green goblin choice: Game key cards or all digital. I refuse to buy key cards. So I guess it's digital for games I want. May as well buy on PC for most third parties.
>>729541750Bait used to be good
>>729542227No, it's not better. Game key cards only exist because third party publishers want retail shelf space for visibility. The average mom and dad is too braindead to realize that the game isn't on the card itself, despite the giant warning label. You could even argue that it only exists to trick people and try to make the average consumer slowly become comfortable with owning nothing
>>729542085This is why voting with your wallet doesn't work. For every principled person there are 10 more who will buy it anyway. I haven't paid $70 for a single game, but games still went up to $70 because most people don't think like you or I. Game key cards will be the same thing.
>>729542343I don't know what you're smoking, but GTA V and Super Smash Bros. are complete on disc/card. I even own the latest card revision of Smash Bros. "005"https://www.doesitplay.org/https://www.benoitren.be/switch-cartridgerevisions.html
>>729542508>it only exists to trick people and try to make the average consumer slowly become comfortable with owning nothingSteam has existed for two decades
>>729533198I prefer to put the cartridge in and start playing. Not download the whole game.
It's all of the downsides of owning phyiscal and digital none of the upsides.You have to have the physical token to start a game that gets none of its data from the media.
>>729542649>online game>it's on my card!Lol
>>729542673Again, I don't know how braindead you are, but PC games have always moved towards digital because of piracy. Even back in 1990, PC games came with anti-piracy measures, such as a serial key. Comparing game key cards to PC games and Steam is just moronic
>>729533198One good thing about this place being filled with browns - guaranteed (You)s
>>729533198I hate them, simple as
>>729534931>multiplats on switchJesus fucking christ, just buy a fucking toaster.
>>729542820>it's ok when PC does itAre you a PC vegan?
Still not buying it
>>729542996It's not that complicated. Just pirate PC games and take your meds, schizo
>>729542029hapiness does not exist, and no, crying is not an option.
>>729543092>I like digital only gamesThen you'll be fine with key cards. Glad we resolved this issue.
>>729533198You speak the truth, but it is beyond the understanding of retards. You can try to explain it to them all, but they all refuse to listen.
>>729543198Only if I can pirate them:)
>>729533314forced meme
>>729543230Try to force your shitty version of reality all you want, games that sell on game-key cards will still sell at a loss because nobody likes them.
>>729542227>digital but betterHow? You have none of the benefits of digital games which is to not have cartridges but just play the game already on the console. And you lose all advantages of having the game on the card already since you need to download it onto it. You have simply the worst of both with neither benefit.There is no positive for the buyer of them.
>>729543286Money isn't an issue for me
>>729543632>since you need to download it onto itIt's worse than that, you don't download to the cart, you download to the console. You also still need the key-card inserted to play the game you downloaded.
>>729543632Exchanging money for physical product that holds value is a benefit keycards have over traditional digital.
>>729543684Good thing the world doesn't revolve around you, bootlicker tranny.
>>729542286no. anyone can insert one card and download and play the game. they just need the card inserted to play it. you can't lend the card to 10 people and then they can all just play it for free.
>>729543846Sure.
>>729543829>holds value >keycardsThankfully they have zero value since nothing is stored on them.
>>729533198your arguments are not good. I will continue to despise them and treat game keycard games as digital only releases and just buy them on PC.
>>729542010Where's armored core 6? Nintroons are completely buckbroken by it.
>>729544176Not true. People collect keys to locks that no longer exist. The same is going to happen with keycards.
>>729535051you are simply ignoring them and farting out of your mouth
>>729544367>Tendies are collecting key cards that will not work without internet
I will not buy Game Key cards, because I don't want to buy them. It's that simple.
>>729544176No they factually hold market value unlike traditional digital which is worthless as soon as you click "process payment".
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>729533198>Portable device>Mandatory internetOk faggot? Why would anyone buy those over traditional cartridges, if any key c are the performative shit to keep scamming retards like you.
>>729544507>keycards don't work without internetFalse.
games dont work without download, retardo
You guys are full of shit if you don't think Nintendo will support Nintendo power rewrite cartridges forever. I mean, they're literally physical, you just have to go to a kiosk to get a game written on it.
I shan't be paying full price + sd card space + tip for a digital video game that I also need to keep track of physically.
And come on, no WAY would Nintendo shutdown famicom disc writers. They sold an entire console peripheral for these things!
>>729544779>digital games dont work without downloadYes, and?
>>729544960digital games also don't require carts to play
>>729544903>>729544783>here comes the tranny with the bullshit false equivalenceYou can't just say most women have XX chromosomes! What about intersex people??? That 100% validates my AGP fetish!
>>729534573>what are food trendsEating bugs isn't a novel idea.It's common in Asia and AfricaIf I'm not mistaken some bee or wasp larva is a traditional dish in Japan. Probably fell out of favor though
>getting scammed by EAheh, can't believe normies are dumb enough to fall for this shit>getting scammed by Nintendo YAAASSSS SLAYYYYYY
>>729545185bugs are free. you can literally go collect them and eat as many as you want. that's why they eat them. people in normal countries have access to and money for red meat and poultry. there's no honest reason to try to push eating bugs in normal countries.
>>729545089Yes they do. See: keycards
>>729545107Trannies? False equivalence? Nonsense! So long as the machine physical works, Nintendo supports their paid games and systems forever. Just like the Nintendo Sattelaview! A perfect example of why Game key cards are a safe purchase!
>>729545251>digital games are a scamI agree. But keycards are less of a scam.
>>729545394Now use some examples that more than 2000 people actually purchased and were released worldwide. Maybe something like the Wii or the 3DS.
>>729533198Why are they good?
It's a digital license that can be resold. I don't understand the hate.
>key card game exists because Nintendo is retarded and didn't give any other cart size options until recently>tendies go fucking nuts and shit on it immediately>half assed ubislop port comes out running at 480p20fps>tendies gladly eat it up at full price and buy the key cards anyways because the devs had an excuse for itThese retards deserve to get scammed.
>>729533198Nintendo solved this dilemma.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
>>729545550Fire Emblem fates. Good luck getting the third path now.
>>729534931Get the lexar one it's fine.
>>729545631Key cards exist because $16 a cart is silly.
>>729545327It's just more like a novelty thing.>hey what about this food they eat over there?Do you think someone is pushing a new fruit to enslave people? No, they do it because it's an alternative they can sell to people>normal countriesEvery region has their weird food.Scandinavians have their rotten fishItalians have their maggot cheese
>>729545683>only weebs are getting screwed overWow. What an injustice.
>>729542752Retard
>>729545625The anti-tendie youtube comment section circlejerk found It's way to /v/
>>729545826To this day, there is still no proof of this claim. So billion dollar corporations can't afford them, but indie developers can? Cope harder, tranny. Just like the ridiculous claim from some Ubisoft tranny on bsky who claimed they used a game key card because of "reading speed" and the cuck john from Digital Foundry ran with it
>>729545631>my headcanon happened, trust me
>>729545971... screeched the nintendie cultist.
>>729546016It was in the Arc hack.
>key card game exists because Nintendo is retarded and didn't give any other cart size options until recentlyMedsTrannyTake Em
>>729535890>4k blurays are starting to failPhysical bros, not like this.
>>729546095Ok. Now show it, tranny.
>>729545896Most italians have never eaten maggot cheese though, it's just a small region in Sardinia, which is itself a small region as well.
>>729533198Need to buy a useless empty cartridge for which I then need an internet connection to download the fucking game and waste my own storage space on expensive ass micro SD express cards on. And I constantly need to keep this useless piece of plastic in my console despite having the full game installed on my storage. You're paying physical prices for a worse version of a digital download. But at least you can sell it, right (you won't).Genuinely kill yourself.
>>729546079Calm down, I'm just discussing a media format that is objectively superior to traditional digital.
>>729546378Bait used to be good
I don't have a switch 2 but what if you watnt to lend a game to a friend?
>>729546548Where do you think you are?
>>729546548Haven't you learned from disc based games? Never lend games
>>729534931>third party on nintendo consoles
>>729546228Every region has their weird food.>hurr only a small portion blablaI don't care, it exists. That's the point. I'm not going to eat japanese bee larvae or the italian maggot cheese but it's still a thing that's been around for some time and some people like it.It's not for me, it's not for you
>>729544691I guess I just imagined the part where you have to download the game on the console for the key card to function.
>>729546302I'll bite>Need toNope. >useless empty cartridgeMare useful than a traditional digital purchase>for which I then need an internet connection to download the fucking gameJust like every digital purchase for every platform>and waste my own storage space Fits on my machine>And I constantly need to keep this useless piece of plastic in my consoleThen buy that game in a traditional digital format>You're paying physical prices for a worse version of a digital download. Hold on, you hate digital downloads. Remember 5 seconds ago when you were crying about storage and internet?Looks like you got lost on your way to a nintendeen youtube video commment section.
>>729546478Meant for>>729546302
>>729546686I fail to understand how this is such a prevalent thing. My friend had a lot more games than I did and never seemed to have any issues with damage. The few times I ever lent him anything, it always gets fucked up and in some cases completely destroyed. I once lent him a DVD box set of a TV show and his fucking dog chewed the thing up and destroyed it.Like fucking how. His house was constantly littered with shit like game carts and CDs and expensive things just strewn about all over the carpet and basically nothing ever broke. But the ONE thing he has that belongs to me, his fucking dog chews that up instead of anything else that's always there?
>>729546843No you got that part right. The part you imagined was your outrage at a common industry practice for the last 20 years or more. Your fake outrage carries more weight in a youtube comment aection, maybe try it there lil bro
>>729546846Are you stupid? The whole point is that game key carts are the worst of both worlds. They're less convenient than digital copies while having more disadvantages over them with the single advantage of being to sell the cart (again which you won't). They're objectively inferior to a physical copy having the game on it and once you finally admit to that every single positive of the format falls apart.
>>729546954People don't respect other people's property. It's literally that simple. >It's not mine. Who cares?>I'll just make up a lie if he asks me what happened>I'll say that my brother used it or that my mom gave it away>Maybe I'll even intentionally damage his disc because I hate that he has something I don'tThere are thousands of reasons, but the most basic one is that you can't trust anyone. The worst thing that ever happened to me was when the person I lent the game to pretended he didn't get it. Like wtf are these mental gymnastics? Just give me my game back you subhuman scum
>>729547274Nope! Keycards are an objective upgrade from the full digital cancer that is taking over the industry. There is no scenario where keycards are worse than traditional digital unless you think needing to swap carts is an extreme hassle. Which I assume your faggot bitch boy ass probably does.
>>729540387Hardcore Nintendo fans are sociopathic cultists, they derive sexual pleasure from worshiping the corporation.
>>729546954No offense, because I have the same problem as you, but some people can pick up on whether you're able to stand up for yourself and if not, they'll walk all over you, even if subconsciously. The fact that gamers aren't really known for being assertive in real-life could also explain this phenomenon. Perhaps I'm projecting but I can't conceive of any other reason as to why some people feel completely emboldened to be careless towards other people's property. Did he suffer any kind of consequence for this? At least a stern talking to?
>>729547484You'll survive
>>729547324Sure, but I saw the DVD case. It was clearly chewed up by their dog. There's no way a human could have done that to the case. It's not like he destroyed it and then threw it away before I saw it.
>>729547471>Umm actually adding another physical point of failure to a digital download that can be lost, stolen, broken or decayed by time, that you constantly need to have on hand to play the game is an objective upgrade.I will never understand the mental gymnastics of Nintendo fans.
>>729547484Honestly, the whole "cult" line of attack might be too flattering by this point. At least some cults, particularly death cults that worship some kind of ancient cosmic evil, have some level of coolness factor. Tendies are lamer and more off-putting like liberal white women who simp for violent felons that would kill them without hesitation all because they think they're sticking it to daddy and all those incel chuds from high school.
>>729535238Came here to post this.
>>729533198>itt wanting to own your purchases is performative
>>729546728Besides the upcoming Pokemon game, doesn't the subject of the thread mostly apply to third party games?
>>729547946>I hate physical media in generalLike I said, total bitchboy faggot. Good talk.
>>729548064They hate when the money they spend on media holds value. It's a PC vegan thing, don't bother trying to understand their cult.
>>729535890>>729546160Why are they failing faster?Why do some of my PS1 games still work but this shit is happening to stuff from less than a decade ago?
Ranking of media ownership>Digital-onlyYou own a download I guess. It's convenient to have multiple games accessible on one device without having to switch out any physical media, but there's nothing you physically own, and you can't resell something digital either.>Code in a boxWell, you have a case at least? It's... better(?) than digital-only if you have any sense of collecting, but it's buying a case without a physical game which sounds ridiculous, because cases were made to hold games.>Game key cardHarder to rank because you lose out on the convenience of digital games not needing anything physical while still having what is essentially a digital game, the cartridge only has a certificate on it for a digital download. But in exchange, you get a box, cartridge, and the ability to resell your game. I think it's mostly a side-grade, and I'm not worrying about the Switch eShop going down, I'm pretty sure that you can redownload stuff on older Nintendo storefronts, and a game key card at least won't expire like a code in a box. Overall maybe ever so slightly better than the code in a box depending on how much you value owning SOMETHING since you're already accepting of giving up that convenience if you always try to buy physical>Cartridge/discBest choice for physical ownership hands-down
what ever happened to "this isn't good but overall I still like the consoles and games nintendo produces?" why do you have to actually make sure everyone thinks every single thing they do is good?What's wrong with tendies, bros?
>>729544783Hope you got Wizardry I+II+III written to yours when you had the chance.Still the best version of the games.
>>729548046>they think they're sticking it to daddy and all those incel chuds from high schoolI absolutely believe this is the real reason Nintendo "fans" are defending game key cards. They have mental breakdowns because the majority doesn't fall for this anti-consumer stuff. They just keep consuming no matter what and don't want the feelings of their favorite company to be hurt. It's the same with Apple "fans" who claim that the removal of the headphone jack on phones isn't a big deal because they can afford airpods. These people have no lives, and their entire personality is based around Reddit gold
>>729533198>performative bullshitWhat the fuck does that bullshit means?>It's the literal same experience as beforeDon't care abstracts, I want ownership of product I gave money for.
>>729546548See >>729545650
>>729548435I don't get this either. I consider myself a Nintendo fan but, but I feel like it wasn't long ago that we were all shitting on the Switch Megaman collection for requiring you to download half the game.
>>729533198>performativeLil tendie just learnt a new word
>>729548536it means discrediting your opinion on things
>>729533439>>729533713Now that's what i call Autism
Along with most of /v/, I'm in that weird middle place where I prefer physical media, and I buy it when I have the option, but if I buy a game like Factorio I'll buy the digital version because there's no physical. I think physical should be got rid of, and we should all go digital, but we are in that weird place in time and we're not mentally ready to cope.
>>729535238Odd, cause that was vegan "argument" for superiority. You can see what happens when a vegan goes console lol>>729535890>collectorfag gets a reality check>>729548307It's a tricky thing; turns out 3DS checks if game as validation checks at certain times in certain moments. Think of it as refresh or "recharching" its carts as if they were old school carts that had battery issues that needed replacement.
>>729543092>>729543286>>729543846>thinking about medsngmi cocksucker granny psycho :^)
>>729548385I'd put Xbox 360's non backward compat game in between key cards and carts/disc; once you download and purchase one of those you really own it despite being stored within a hdd
>>729548918>I think physical should be got rid ofGet rid of your life, shill
>>729535642autist is commiting a cyber crime, oh nonono.can't wait for nintendo ninjas
>>729548918Isn't that all keycards are though? A stopgap? One last cope before we realize games make the industry more money as direct purchases, than they do as collectibles in an aftermarket that doesn't even benefit the industry directly?
>>729546160>>729548307Planned obsolescence.It's a new Jewjitsu technique that forces you to not rely on old physical versions, but instead to buy re-releases, remasters, and remakes.
>>729548834So, deluded faggotry in disguise?
>>729534238you first tourist
>>729548963Take your meds you subhuman schizo tranny and don't rape your mother like chris chan
>>729548945>It's a tricky thing; turns out 3DS checks if game as validation checks at certain times in certain moments. Think of it as refresh or "recharching" its carts as if they were old school carts that had battery issues that needed replacement.It was designed this way on purpose?!
>>729549124There have been games in the past that were CONSTANTLY running validation checks to the point where it took an actual toll on performance. It was very likely intentionally designed this way.
>>729549074>It's a newIt was coined as a term in the early 30's and was being used even earlier than it had a name.
>>729548945If I crack my 3DS will it still care about those checks?
>>729549119>thinking about medsngmi you subnormal psycho granny and tell that to eric who's clovermon #209
>>729533198I see "performative" is the new shill buzzword of the moment.
>>729549074>Planned obsolescence.That's what Key Cards can be whenever Nintendo wants them to be.They just need to press a button and BAM, now you need to buy the game again, as it will be re-released on the shiny new Switch 3 console.And guess what? It's not illegal to do that.
>>729549318This schizo is on the spectrum
>>729533198I legitimately don’t understand physical tards in the slightest >muh cheaper pricesRarely true because these are the same retards that buy those gay ass limited run $150 editions for fucking doom 1>muh ownership muh digital blackoutActual conspiracy /x/ tier nonsense New games get so many patches that buying an old physical version gimps you with glitches and nonsense unless you patch, and then at that point, your physical version is meaningless because you’re relying on the very online systems you’re so hellbent on fighting >muh collection Literally who gives a fuck, games don’t even come with fun manuals and art anymore unless you shell out retard prices for those dumb collectors editions
>>729533198>performativeFunny how every key card apologist keeps using this same exact word. Almost like they’re reading from the same script or something. Hmmm.
>>729549409This psycho is on the spectrum
>>729549380>Thing Nintendo will never do.Your headcanon is strong, young one.
If shit is entirely digital, why do you even need something that waste space?
>>729549449>Actual conspiracy /x/ tier nonsenseSo, can I play P.T. wherever I want?
>>729549049Not sure, but games are kind of becoming expendable because of the large amounts of trash. I don't think there is really an answer that will please all people, but game key cards are pretty bad. Like, game file sizes are inflated and storage prices are going up at the same time. We're in a really confusing time. I don't really have an answer. You can only please people by giving them what they want, and key cards ... well, storage needs to be less costly. But Nintie does the physical thing and it costs more to produce.very very confusing
>>729549554It’s a 10 minute demo for a concept that never came to light Its a horror game with a finite number of jump scares and secretsHow many times could you possibly play it
I guarantee that 99.9999% of the people complaining about keycards don't even own a Switch 2. It's entirely performative. Keycards are objectively superior to both digital and physical
>>729550076DO NOT REDEEM THE KEYCARD SAAAAAR
>>729548519>They have mental breakdowns because the majority doesn't fall for this anti-consumer stuff.>These people have no livesAnd because they have no lives and are perpetually online, they're reminded of this fact every day upon waking up. It's grim.
>>729549074>Planned obsolescence.Wrong. Even the GF timebomb in pokemon games don't happen unless you go unga bunga with your carts. You're comparing it with shit like internal batteries with no counter-measure
>>729549124>It was designed this way on purpose?!Yeah, but it's not an issue. Unless you are stupid and put your games on the shelf for years and never play them.>mfw put my copy of ever oasis untouched since purchase over 5 years ago and worked just fineIt's a huge nothing burger imo. The timebomb on pokemon games is more prominent of an issue.>>729549237>There have been games in the past that were CONSTANTLY running validation checks to the point where it took an actual toll on performance>All those checks in Digimon World on PS1And those weren't even for security lmao
>>729549349>unc failed>now it's performativethey always find the most lame way for their memes, huh?>>729549380>That's what Key Cards can be whenever Nintendo wants them to be.Keycards happened because third parties.
>>729533198Just consoom, don't think, retard
>>729533198Luckily no one under age 25 gives a fuck about physical anymore anyway (except for the extremely autistic Sonic/pokefag types)It will be funny to see physicalchad's collections (that they don't even use) slowly disappear.
I play games physical.If physical isn't available, I don't play the game.Simple as.
>>729550708Holy basedSo when physical is dead in 5 years is your cope just going to be that all games are bad?
>>729533198can I resell these? if I can then its not that badstill not giving kiketendo any emone tho :)digital is the gayest thing to ever happen
>>729550012You're not answering my question.Can I play it or not?
>>729550807Yes you can resell it. That's why you need the keycard inserted for the game to work: so you can sell it, otherwise you'd be able to just pass the cart along dozens of people and everyone would have the game.If you don't like this you can simply buy digital.The only people that "lose" are those who wanted a piece of plastic to collect.
>>729547471>nope with an exclamation point and drivel talkclassic tendie. dont forget your Mac n cheese
>>729550945just i'm preparing for dinner
>>729550460>All those checks in Digimon World on PS1I prefer what they did with Spyro the Dragon 3. The anti piracy measures were so convoluted and difficult to figure out that the games were able to sell the bulk of its lifetime sales before the anti piracy was cracked.
>>729550708There are plenty of games I like that have never had a physical release. It doesn't make sense for AAA games to do it, but others can't justify the cost.
>>729550708>Cobraposter (this time without pic)>basedEvery. Fucking. Time.
>Duuuuude what’s up with the hate with key cards?Because we want the ability to keep the games we buy. Going off the 3DS, we know for a fact that the Switch eshop will eventually close and you will be left with whatever software you got on your switch whereas the people who bought their cartridges with actual games in them will be able switch out the games they got. Doesn’t help that the Switch barely has any storage to begin withYou’re a faggot for even asking
>>729542964Why would I do that when I like playing games on Switch 2>>729547471>There is no scenario where keycards are worse than traditional digital unless you think needing to swap carts is an extreme hassleSpoken like someone who has never not swapped carts. It's pretty great, just like electronic mail and the remote control.
>>729551641>Going off the 3DS, we know for a fact that the Switch eshop will eventually closeIf we're going off the 3DS, you can STILL download any software you had purchased before it shut down. You just can't buy anything new.
>>729550884 Depends. If the game requires an online check or an update that’s no longer available when you redeem the keycard, then no, you're SOL. If everything you need is already baked onto the cart or still online, then yeah, you can play it. That’s the dice roll with keycards-you're at the mercy of the servers and publishers. Welcome to modern gaming where "ownership" is a suggestion.
>>729551641Absolutely and utterly BTFO by >>729551987Very convenient that you never replied to it and instead just ran away
Honestly bro, I think I'm going to collect all the best games physically for Switch 1 and Switch 2 (I already have a good library), but when they stop producing physical media I'll have no problem just buying all digital copies from that point forward because when deals come... boy do they come for cheap! --- and then I'll offload all my physical copies and get a big payday.
>>729550801>physical is dead in five yearsI only play retro games.>>729551275Even indies often get a physical release on Switch these days.>>729551350Sorry, you have the wrong man.
>>729552506>I only play retro games.And I don't like physical media for old games anymore.
>>729533198uh huh, still never buying a goy key card however
Do you fucking know how much better it is to select the game you want to play from a menu? How LIFE CHANGING this is?
>>729552213Why do zoomies think typing like Redditfags makes them look intelligent?
>>729552667I was only talking about me personally when I said I only play physical, you play games however you like.
>>729533198>Valve will go under before Nintendo doesFalse Nintendo has shut down multiple online services. Basically you're a fucking idiot.
>>729553147>False Nintendo has shut down multiple online services.>secondary online service = the whole thingwojack or just dumb?
>>729552891>Clever Kids Pony WorldSome interesting choices there, anon.
>>729547056>you got that part right>common industry practice for the last 20 years or moreDo you even read what you write before hitting post?
Why do grown adults engage in console war faggotry?
>>729549449>made up point>factually false ans absurdist point>non argumentShills are not sending their best
>>729553723>no argumentHe BTFOd you
>>729533198>Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willabsolute jej
more power to the corporations! yes! i am a stupid tool, i need every bit of control taken away from me! milk me, daddy nintendo! milk every ounce of my sack! i love you papa!
>>729554298If you say so shill
>>729550012>It’s a 10 minute demo for a concept that never came to light>Its a horror game with a finite number of jump scares and secrets>How many times could you possibly play itthat doesnt matter at all you fucking dunce, its one of the best things happening to horror games in a long time and it was still majorly influential despite being ONLY a demo. it was that powerful. yes, it needs to be preserved. you cant even buy driveclub anymore, one of the better new racinggames that came out in the last decade just plain gone. you cant buy the original san andreas anymore. its jsut gone, because the "definitve" jeet slop is now the status quo. fuck you you dumb fucking apologist corporate cocksucker. you are whats wrong with teh world, you just take it in the ass and love it. fucking goycattle untermensch
>>729554987you can't buy the original GTA games but you can still download them if you already have them. you couldn't do that with PT or that scott the pilgrim game until they rereleased it recently
>>729533198buy an ad
>>729550076>I guarantee that 99.9999% of the people complaining about keycards don't even own a Switch 2.Uh... yeah, I imagine It would be more intelligent to not buy the product that is doing the thing you don't like.
>>729533647So now the paid shills just try to gaslight people by saying that shit didn't happen.
>>729555819>I hate this restaurant's burger>but I never tried it>after all why would I try something I dislike?
>>729546812You could've said french and spaniards eat snails and would have been a better example than maggot cheese that probably banned off lots of parts of the world.
>>729556272even if it can happen, there are no cases of it happening, at least none that weren't deserved. there was some reddit fag who was asking why his console could no longer access the internet. they asked him to provide the error code he was getting, and the error code was consistent with people who had been playing pirated games online. this can never be revoked btw kek
>>729554298>He BTFOd you
>>729556278>burger metaphorsAmerica isn't sending their best
>>729556278>>after all why would I try something I dislike?Yes?
>>729557036You realize you fell into his trap? Fucking hell we are on the same side but you need to stop being so stupid.
>>729556278Sick burn
>>729533198>>729533258samefag shill. kys.Thanks to shit you are championing, my switch 2 library is two whole games. TWO!
Imagine buying a fucking Switch 2 when the Steam Deck is right there. Fucking retards.
>>729557435>buy steam deck>brag about how much you hate nintendo>play nintendo games on it just to prove... how much you hate nintendo???
>>729533198Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't booted up my PS4 since days gone came out but aren't these cartridges the same as the PS4 discs when you have to download some of the game via Internet connection? I remember there being a portion of the game already being on the disc and usually depending on the size of the game it would've been downloaded by the time I'd get to the point where the on disc data would end. Are people only casting an uproar because this is a new thing for Nintendo?
>>729534226They were promoting it as an environmentally friendly alternative to red meat pretty hard, even bill gates did it in a documentary, and he said red meat should be taxed to shit so only the wealthy can afford if, and he even ate a burger in the same episode, I can’t remember the name of it though
>>729533258This is more appropriate to the mythical "snoys" tendies always go on about. Any genuine Playstation fans got scared off like ten years ago but /v/tendo is constantly chasing shadows to keep them out because of one troll spamming the gold face anal vore man half a lifetime ago. They'll project the worst of themselves onto them too, calling them a cultlike fanbase infested with trannies when we have documented evidence this applies more to them. I mean who was it that sent a fucking thank you card to Nintendo just for existing?
>>729557885Yes it is effectively the same situation: you need the disc/cartridge inserted, else you can't play it even if you have the data downloaded.You can sell the keycard to someone else (which of course would imply you lose access to it).
I don't understand how this is any different to the codes in a box most third party Switch games have been giving for years?
>>729558059People didn't exactly like those either. This is different because the same key card can be used on multiple different consoles, with the caveat that the key card must be inserted. I don't know if THIS is one of the things people are bitching about, but it's retarded to assume you can have someone download the game on their console and then play it for free whenever. Download codes are different because they are one time use only.
>>729558165Shouldn't the hate be moved towards gaming studios for inflating their games to ridiculous sizes instead? Nintendo and Capcom keep their game file sizes moderately small compared to other companies games like red dead 2 with its 150gb+ size.
>>729558282 meant to reply to >>729558003
>>729558282Yep, that would be much betterBut these games really need that weightI think it's time consumers just start accepting that storage is a main part of a console/PC costs now.
>>729557885>Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't booted up my PS4 since days gone came out but aren't these cartridges the same as the PS4 discs when you have to download some of the game via Internet connectionNo, it's the whole game, there's tons of ps4 and ps5 games that come fully on the disc and are just installed onto the hard drive, this cart is just like a 512mb chip that just stores a code that basically tells the console to download the game from the store.The more exact comparison would be the new MS games on ps5 that come with barely a cdkey and you have to download the whole game anyway, but you can't boot the game without the cd inserted, same as these key cards, without the cart you can't play the game, but the game is stored in the console not the card.
>>729558282>compared to other companies games like red dead 2 with its 150gb+ sizeThat's the issue you get into when you try to cram high poly models, hi res textures and thousands of voice lines for hundreds of npcs, nintendo games for example, like bananza, are low poly games with mostly flat textures that can be easily optimized and no voice lines, plus, the game is basically a set amount of small zones with barely anything on them.
>>729533198So the savings of not having to use hardly any flash memory will be pass on to the consumer right?
>>729558849That might have been a possibility if digital and physical games hadn't always been the same price. But they are and always have been. I don't know why anyone thinks this would be any different.
>>729533198>Yes, back when they did not have key cards. Now they won't do that because they need to support it forever, which they willI just don't understand how you can hold this position when time and time again, companies prove that services are only worth keeping alive if they make them money. When Nintendo moves to another console that doesn't support these cartridges they'll kill the service like they killed the wii shop channel, nintendo wifi connection and the 3ds/Wii U eshop. We can't even keep two generations back online. I have 20+ pc year old pc games that i can still play, and sandwiched between them plastic paperweights with 'Games for Windows Live' printed on them.That's what those keycards will become.
>>729557650>>play nintendo games on it for free just to prove... how much you hate nintendo???FTFY
>>729559425>like they killed the wii shop channelexcept they haven't shut down the one part of the Wii Shop Channel relevant to GKCs, the download servers.
Every time I check one of these threads, they look like the most obvious viral marketing shit I have ever seen. How much are they paying you?
To be honest, all physical games are essentially just denuvo lite. Think about it, you can't legally modify the games, you can't make copies, they don't work on non-approved consoles. Essentially, they're just roms/isos that require a ton of effort just to remain playable.To put it another way, let's say you want to enjoy the entire metroid series. If you have physical copies, how many consoles would you need? >NES>SNES>gameboy>gameboy advance>Gamecube>Wii>Switch>3DSNow, if you have all the games as ISOs or ROMS, here's how many devices you need to play them all.>PC
>>729533198>Valve will go under before Nintendo does. Japan, bitchNintendo literally shut down 4 online services for 4 consoles in steams lifetime.Sony supported Psp and PS3 longer than Nintendo did its consoles.Xbox 360 shut down its marketplace only last year meaning it lasted almost 19 years.
>>729562328Also whit Japans current economic situation.All of Japan will probably go under before Valve.
>>729562076This might have merit if these games were all released at the same time, but people generally buy consoles for more than one game over a long number of years. I doubt there are many people, if any at all, that have ever bought a nintendo console specifically to play a metroid game. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Smash are the games that will sell consoles. Maybe animal crossing. Any other nintendo franchises are just the cherry on top.
>>729562328And Nintodlers still cry that emulation exist and is wrong.
>>729533198is it performative if they're actually deciding not to buy keycards. at that point it's not just a performance, it's just really what they're actually doing for real
>>729562475The point still stands because consoles are purposely designed to keep your old games hostage, constantly changing format so you have no choice but to hold onto your old console if you ever want to replay your games.It'd be like steam locking your purchases to the current computer that you bought it on, so if you bought some indie game back in 2013, and then your computer died, your purchase magically stops working on future titles.Sony literally did this with all the playstations. They all use the same sized disk, and the Ps3 even flaunted itself as a Ps1 and Ps2 emulator, but once they realized that people would buy shoddy remakes and HD remasters, backwards compat went right out the window.
>>729545683>not buying all 3 on 1 cart
>>729562668The PS3 was not a PS2 emulator. The PS3 itself contained all of the necessary hardware required to play PS2 games instead of just emulating them. It was essentially two consoles in one in that regard. It's why later revisions of the PS3 couldn't play PS2 games.
>>but Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the pastDigital games existed before and that didn't stop them retard.
>>729562912It still doesn't explain why Sony can't make proper emulators of their own consoles, and make them backwards compat. A bunch of random people in their basement reverse engineered the Ps2 for emulation, and Ps1 emulation is so simple that it comes in like 10 flavors. It's all about reselling you the same game over and over again. See: TLOU.
>>729533198>but Nintendo has shutdown support to older consoles in the pastThis isn't even true. You can STILL download wii games you've purchased. They only took down the store, not the ability to download the games. Nintendo stopping you from downloading games you've purchased has literally NEVER happened before unless you count something like Nintendo's proto-digital addons like the FDS or the Satellaview
>>729556278If you dislike burgers, yes, that's reasonable.
>>729534434Yeah, and you can't buy new carts today either. Lord knows how fucked in the ass the used game market is too, so that's not a valid comparison.
>>729534434Yeah, and GKCs literally fix that by allowing you to by used carts. You're only making a case against digital storefronts here, not GKCs.
>>729563202>add pokemon gen 1 and 2 to 3DS>don't put them on NSO>even though that's the only way to make pokemon stadium 1 and 2 enjoyableThis I will never get. It's a no brainer. You don't even need to make them compatible with Home, just with Stadium.
>>729563291My cope is that the pokemon company's strong anti-cheat mentality is so strong they're just taking forever for make sure they add online functionality "property". Either that or they're waiting for an anniversary like they did with the games on the 3DS. Those were some of the last games they added to the virtual console after all
>>729563494They don't want you to be able to clone pokemon, even if that means you can't back up your saves. I'm pretty sure that's all it comes down to. When I got my switch 2, it literally just transferred my SV save from my switch 1 to switch 2, so that it can't exist on two consoles at once. Gotta make sure I can't duplicate the shiny rayquaza they gave literally everyone a few years ago.
>>729533198It isn't performative. It just turns out that a lot of people want to actually own the products they buy without having to worry about whatever the fuck is happening on Nintendo's side of the servers. There's been a growing number of people that generally want to step away from always-online services, including fucking zoomers that are buying old-school MP3 players just because they're sick of getting bombarded by ads on Spotify.
>>729533198System storage is too small for games. The game should be installed on the cart and the cart should have extra storage built in to handle DLC and updates or they should ship their consoles with 5T minimum if they expect us to install games on them.
You will own nothingYou will still pay for it thoughWay more than before in factThese record profits every single year forever ain't gonne make themselves
It just feels weird as someone who doesn't pay for any of this horseshit. Like why the fuck are we perpetually stuck in a cycle of>Game company comes up with some new bullshit>Gay retards pay for it>People call the bullshit, bullshit>Gay retards start shitposting about how everyone who doesn't pay extra for the latest thing is ackhtually even more retarded>Latest bullshit becomes normalised>If you still think it's bullshit then you are put in the unc containment zone and forced to play marble madness in a basementI'm not paying for an online subscription, in-game cosmetics, games "on disc" that have a mandatory day 1 patch, paid/paywalled mods, boxed PC games with SecuROM, online only games, consoles that require an online connection to work etc. The thing that confuses me is why other people are seemingly fine with all of this, to the point that they will go on the internet and get mad on behalf of the people who are bilking them.
>>729564634people need something to be mad about
>>729533198Anyone notice how it's not Nintendo fans defending keys?
>>729564634In the case of keys no one's buying it anon.
>>729533198>bingtrannies dying on the gkc hillGrim
>>729533198>It's the literal sameFirst four words are already a lie. What a retarded thread.
