>it's actually fun/v/ wrong once again
everything /v/ hates is fun
>>729577974Only the base game up to the Revan expansion
>>729577974Leveling on release was an amazing experience. It's sad what they've done to it over the years.
>>729578768what kind of a cuck played it on release?it was a laughing stock for us
>>729578768>playing this shit on releaselmao
>>729578860There was nothing wrong with it on release. Tortanic was a self-fulfilling prophecy and the detractors even resorted to blatant lies like that there wasn't any endgame to make it come true.You missed out on the best leveling experience ever in the MMO genre because you made the mistake of listening to /v/.
>>729578768>>729579101what was good about it?
>>729577998>998▶>everything /v/ hates is funThis. I pay close attention to what /v/ says is garbage, because it is almost invariably a good game. The contrarian disease on this board is rampant.
>>729577974>mmo shitlol nah
>>729578768Back when you had to upgrade your companion's gear to not get fucked by the new planet's aliens, good times.
>>729578860>usA couple of GW2 shills desperately trying to force a meme aren't "us"
>>729577974I wanna play it with some friends, but I keep wanting to gravitate towards the $100 pack they have on sale for right now with the on demand GTN and storage access as well as the red/black colors and 6 month sub. Any chance they'll sell something like the two toys on the cartel market later on, like how the Revan statue exists?
>>729578860>>729579346You're both cringe faggots and MMOs are for NPCsshit thread for try-hard /v/irgins to shitpost performatively and for MMO subhumans to psyop themselves and cope
Post THAT WebM
>>729579573That would be a waste of money. You're better subbing for one month and getting all the benefits whilst you play.>cartel marketWho knows. They just do what they want with it but I imagine not.
>>729579573$100 bundle for swtor in the year 2025(+1) seems a little questionable unless you plan to absolutely nolife the gameYou can put a GTN in your stronghold for much cheaper, and from what I remember the economy was zimbabwe tier
>>729577974>after fourteen years of post-release patches we hope this turd was worth the wait
>>729578768Let's not have revisionist history here, first few months game was plagued with numerous bugs, glitches and ran and lagged like ass even on good systems. If you ignore all that and just take into account story and gameplay, I agree. The game deserves better and had lot of potential but their choice of engine killed all hope.
>>729579142>class stories were as good as they are now but weren't fucked by level scaling>open-world mobs and combat in general was much harder>each planet was a journey that took like 6-7 hours each, had their own currency (planetary commendations) with vendors, had multiple heroic group missions that included the final mission for the planetary arc>dungeons were all unique, reasonably long, and had cool backstory and choices to make. back then the playerbase weren't speedrunning autists and would laugh over things like the one darkside player in your group derailing the story by murdering innocent people or someone wearing robotic parts and roleplaying as a droid>even just the small things like having a mission at level 10 to decide your advanced classIt was a much more immersive experience than anything you can get from modern SWTOR.All you do now is rush through each planet to do your class story there in like 20 minutes, maybe killing a few mobs that die in 5 seconds and pose no threat along the way, and then proceed to do the same on the next planet.
>>729577974Based on your choice of games I recommend nigger threads on gif.
>>729577998ironically enough if was TOR that really broke this gameI used to respect the general taste of this board and it helped me find more than one of my favourite games which i never would have known about otherwise, but after TOR everyone here started just chasing the high of shitting on everything and the place has become extremely unreliable even in cases where /v/ is right in the criticisms, there is still an issue where the people here ONLY consider a games flaws while ignoring its strength, which completely destroys its credibility
>>729579190If 4chan AND reddit hates it it's probably god tier
>>729580762that's what I thought when I tried it recently, my main quest was the main draw and even that didn't keep me playing, i watched the end of the story on youtube like a foolit's a run of the mill mmo from that era, a wow killer like they made dozens of back thenexcept every quest is a fully voiced conversation, even the kill 10 sewer rats ones, which I don't think was a good ideaalso the environments are so needlessly big it's silly and kind of a pain when you do a bunch of back and forth.My main takeway is a distinct lack of charm, real poor art direction
>>729580762>playerbase weren't speedrunning autistslet it go anon, it aint coming back...
>shit art>shit world>mmo with a single player appeal on storygiga turd
Say what you want about SWTOR and its environments, but at least they never made the mistake of adding flying.
>>729577974The combat is not fun, it's old mmo shit tab style.But it's like the only decent SW game setting wise, you can actually play pre rule of two bullshit sith, and not fallen to the dark side jedincel, but actual sith.Also sith purebloods.You could take imp side class stories and flesh them out into actually good SP games.
>>729578103>Only the base game up to the Revan expansionThis, and anyone who argues otherwise have not played past that point. Also the only story really worth playing through is the sith warrior.
>>729577974Is it actually an MMO though? Like can I find people to raid with? I mean I'd pay attention to the story but I have no interest if the story is all there is to do.
>>729578768no, it was a slog. but pvp was awesome
>>729579689
>>729577974/v/ doesn't play games, they bitch about them. It was WoW faggots who hated SWTOR in the first place yet look at the state of WoW today.
>>729577974It is, especially dark side is top tier.As soon as you get to two brother retards from another galaxy expansion then stop playing.
>>729583174qrd on said retardation
>>729577974Except it's not, it's incredibly boring.
>>729582980Unironically looks better than 2011 + 14 WoW
>>729583312>qrd on said retardationknights of the fallen empire expansion is extremely mid.
>>729583312Keeping up with the kardashians if they were annoying forcefags
>>729583312The Eternal Empire expansions ruined the fun and unique storytelling of the game. You had 8 stories doing their own thing and then all stories are pushed into one with an annoying family of force users and it also feels like really bad star wars fan fiction, which is impressive enough considering SWTOR is like that at times.
>>729577974It always was but only the first time through. It's only gotten worse with time because they've completely trivialized the questing, bosses, and open world in general in addition to pruning buttons and utilities from every class to reach parity with quasi-mobile games like WoW where you run around mashing a three button rotation completely unopposed. I guess I could give it a soft recommend to experience class stories like Imperial Agent and Sith Warrior but the game, like most MMOs, is a shadow of what it used to be and that original experience is gone.
>>729582821>>729582821>>729582821>>729582821anybody?
>>729583913Yes though you’d need a dedicated group for it. A lot of the casual PUG stuff isn't there. Easy to find in game though
>>729583312Vanilla games strength is being basically 8 mini Mass Effect games in one. Which is extremely hard to keep doing. So they've rolled all into one story, removed as much player agency as possible and made New Evil Sith Empire the main cast instead of You. All of the nuance in Light and Dark choices they build in og game are gone. It's extremely straightforward and dumb family drama.
>>729583913I thought they toned down the mmo stuff to 11 that you can solo everything with little to no trouble the last time I played
>>729578103Good thing everything up to Shadow of Revan is completely free.
>>729583913Any serious raiders abandoned the game 10 years ago with 4.0 when they released this expansion >>729583174If you care about endgame then just go play wow
I'm surprised this game is still alive
>>729584319It doesn't have to be serious I just want to know if you can find people to do it with. I've done all WoW endgame if nothing else this would be fresh.
>>729579101People got banned for market manipulation for listing all of their non vendor trash on the AH at appropriate prices. Aka exactly what you're supposed to do in an MMOGame was garbage. Is garbage. And will always be garbage.
>>729580762Planetary quests were nice until you had to do them again as a different class. I really think they could've met in the middle where you have to do all the normal progress for each side once until you get the turbo xp boost, but then again modern players have no attention span, so they most likely didn't have a choice.Also I find it funny swtor's writing was pretty much universally considered mediocre back then, but now compared to all the modern shit it's good.
Is Sith Warrior good if I want to be a white racist with an alien gf?
>>729586059Yeah
Am I to understand that the general approach with this game is to play to the end of each class story then immediately abandon the character to start another class? Like there's no reason to keep playing past the vanilla endings?
>>729586059Thankfully, you can be racist with every class, even the boring as fuck jedi consular.
>>729586059Sith Warrior is excellent with and without the alien GF, and highly enjoyable as both LS and DS.
I was here years before /v/ortanic and I could not tell you a single flaw that this game was supposed to have even from osmosis of talking points over the years.Thinking back it really felt as fake of a hatehype as gamergate. They really tested this shit for years on here.
>>729586226KoTFE is kino, i recommend playing through it at least once, preferably on force user as non force users really doesn't make much sense past vanilla story arcs.
>>729586059I think Agent is the best because you it allows you to be racist as fuck to Voss and still have a marriage with one
>>729580996I have seen you post your shitty opinion in a dozen threads over the past few years. I even recognize your posting style.
>>729586226There is story after the base game, but it's not class specific so it's enough to only do it once. Endgame is okay, but from what I've seen true endgame is playing fashion and Sims with your stronghold.
>>729578768it was awful bro, the game was like 1/3rd finished and balance nonexistentwasn't any different than any other bad mmo, not even as good as rift
Rank each class storyline.
>>729586973AgentKnightWarriorSmugglerHunterInquisitorTrooperConsular
>>729587143trooper is worse than consular
>>729587176Absolutely not. Consular is the worst thing in existence, the only class story I started skipping just to rush to the ending. I'd put war criminal trooper even higher.
>>729587325>>729587143I didn't mind Consular for just Jedi roleplay. No chosen one, OP jedi warrior shit. Just an autistic space monk going around being a diplomat. Was comfy
>>729577974I played it on release, payed for 3 months. It was a generic trash themepark mmo even then. Only worth play it alone because you will never see your friends if they choose another class.
>>729586973WarriorAgentInquisitorKnight=ConsularHunterSmuggler=Trooper
>>729577974the game came out like 15 years ago.
>>729587382What it was, was undercooked and boring with a terrible finish. They used the "alien" excuse to have half of all the dialogue not be voiced, haven't fleshed out any of the characters but still expected you to care about their deaths. Consular also have objectively the worst companions.
the "story" of this game is absolutely atrocious
>>729587176I think trooper suffers from the terrible gameplay. It's very obvious BioWare designed BH first and just copied his abilities for trooper.
7.0 ruined it and i'm not going back
>>729587880>the "jacket art" of this record is absolutely atrociousand?
It was a fine game. It was just not Star Wars Galaxies, and at the time, I was bitter about that. But they don't make games like this anymore and now I have nostalgia for it too.
>>729588714swg was more kino and lightning in a bottle. You will never recapture that feeling of community and adventure
>>729588874Agreed. It was the first MMO I ever played too and it was way ahead of its time.
>>729583312They eschew the entire Empire vs Republic dynamic that they've been setting up in favor of the third party donut steel infinite empire of zakuul, which is just so epic and cool that it destroys both of the factions in a matter of weeks and essentially unseats your character from his place in whatever faction-class position he has reached (instantly kills off a shit ton of supporting characters too, none of which I was happy to see go) to make them a plucky resistance leader. That's bad enough, but the actual content of the infinite empire storyline essentially biola down to the following:1. We hate the emperor, but we have a plan to kill him once and for all!2. Standard MMO busywork to setup the plan3. Everything is place, time to kill the emperor!4. Oh shit, something went sideways and now we have to run out of this hallway while it explodes and we made it out just in the nick of time!5. We're a plucky band of rebels, we need a plan to kill the emperorThis exact formula repeats a dozen or so times (I am not fucking joking), and even when it finally does throw you a bone and you finally kill him, a family member takes his place (I think first it's the son, then the father, then the daughter), and you repeat the whole fucking cycle all over again. There is not a single line of dialogue or interesting character or plot point that makes any of it worth your time. Utterly fucking worthless, it completely hamstrings the setting and drops ALL the character potential from the class storylines, and garuntees that the galactic cold war will not see a satisfying conclusion. Having written all this, I now remember that you do actually get to execute the chancellor of the Republic on galactic television after she betrays you, which I have to admit was pretty kino. But other than that single bright moment, it's a pointless, hollow, joyless shitshow.
>>729577974they banned me forever because i said hortler was a cool guy, he was my best fren
>>729589012It really wasn't as a game, gameplay was absolute fucking shit and as much as people shit on it NGE did improve it tremendously. Community and general feeling of it is what carried SWG hard, both of which were product of its time and can't be replicated.
>>729589201*first the son, then the father, then the daughter, then the father again
>>729589012Same and being younger I didn't appreciate how brilliant it was. I just wanted to go around as my character and do stupid shit. I never got to fully experience the catina e-sluts, the player bounty system, the autistic little dictators of player run towns or doing the jedi quests before it was given to everyone. I tried SWGEmu but it was just so soulless and empty
It's infuriating that SWTOR is the most recent Star Wars game that lets you play as an alien.
>>729589580female chiss agent whores
they just meme they're just animals be nice to them
>>729587143>>729587592These are canon.
I just made an account which server do anons play on?
>>729590546Star Forge or Malgus if EU
>>729590970does 4chan have a dedicated server and guild?
>>729590375But they're different?
>>729591021It doesn't even have a /vg/ thread anymore
>>729591021No. Not that I know of anyway. There’s a general on my /vm/ if you want to ask more
>>729591065Exactly.
>>729577974Bioware once said that this game had ideas that they were gonna use for a KOTOR 3 if they didn't make this game instead. Makes me wonder what those ideas were because some of the stories in this were terrible (Vitiate, the Eternal Empire as a whole) but some had potential (The Dread Masters were fun, the Star Cabal felt like natural escalation of what Kreia was talking about in 2)>>729589580>It's infuriating that SWTOR is the most recent Star Wars game that lets you play as an alien.But anon playing as a human with weird skin/hair/horns would ruin immersion! We need more D list Hollywood actors to face scan instead
>>729586573meds
I love how contrarian people have gotten to the point where they genuinely seethe about tortanic. Lmao shut the fuck up shit eater.
>>729591189i hate this face scan shit so much
I miss being a retard in that game
>>729591489Male BT4s rise up!
im almost done downloading the game and im going in blind which race/class should i pick for the most fun?
>>729591549Sith Warrior
>>729591549Sith pureblood warrior
>>729591549female chiss agent and get naked for me
>>7295910214chan has the Dromund Kaas chat
>>729591682>>729591693I heard turning lightside's more interesting than sticking to darkside. Is that true, and does it apply for the other classes as well?
>>729591785Most of the time yes. Light Side Sith Warrior isn't a good person, being light side means pro Empire and not just going around killing everyone for fun. Sith Inquisitor is more fun for that.
>>729591732>tfw DK/Imp fleet chat is quiet now
I found out why swtor is bad now
>>729592153>now
>>729591785>I heard turning lightside's more interesting than sticking to darkside. Is that trueYes, 110%. Act 1 Sith Warrior as light side is the best content in the entire game imo and actually gives some Star Wars vibes with the whole light vs dark struggle>and does it apply for the other classes as well?No. Light side Sith Warrior -> massive Troll and genuine surprise when you turn out not to be the monster everyone feared
>>729591785Agents has more flavors than DS/LS, this dichotomy doesn't really make sense for this class
>>729582980>>729583437kekThe same troons at blizzard also work at this shitty stars wars gameThe game is full of woke shit just like wow (splash art related)
>>729593431now the og splash art for contrast
>>729593431>The game is full of woke shit just like wowNot really, SWTOR has been on life support for nearly a decade, they just didn't make enough content to saturate it with woke garbage
>>729593501Now post the latest one with uglified Blondi
>>729593431fucking lol
>>729592153>Modern swtor is just releasing new costumes and decorations>It's all womenBaseball, huh?
I just started this is kind of neat, is everything voiced over?
>>729578103Most of the stories were really good or fun, I didn't expect them to pull the antagonist plot twist for imperial agent. A couple, specifically on the republic side were really boring though.It was always funny seeing characters shit and piss themselves when they realise you're a sith warrior with reasonable ideas.
>>729594202Yep
>>729594202>is everything voiced over?Yes, until the more recent expansions when funding clearly dried up
>>729594227I remember one questgiver kept a furry girl as a sex slave, which ended up killing him since she was a spy or something
>>729594291Up to which expansion?
>>729577974>no retarded anime women talking like children>no gacha lootbox slop with fomo gambling hell>game doesn't autobattle for youCertified not /v/ lmaoTry again when you have plastic surgery Korean women
>>729594434NTA, but IIRC KOTFE's Odessen is when you first start having tons of unvoiced dialogue
>>729593431What i remember about TOR is being a sith with a slave girl who you can use a shock collar on her until she becomes a masochist for you I dont see the woke here
>>729594558You need to remember that woke = things I don't like. It's a buzzword without meaning
>>729594615I think some people have clearly let politics make them forget to... actually play some video games and enjoy them
>>729594434Knights of the Fallen Empire. Starts off as unvoiced side quests ala KOTOR style. But in the latest expansions even segments of the main story are made like that, completely killing the vibe
>>729586059Yes. Romancing Vette is cute and making her a bit freaky as she offers to slap on her slave collar again for kinky bed times
>>729594558Well you remember it wrong. At a certain point she'll just stop talking to you unless you take off the collar. You're forced to do so if you want to progress. But yeah, the og game is definitely not woke, and gives you quite a bit of freedom without being judgey.
>>729591549Zabrak inquisitor. Warrior is mid (third best after inq and agent), these guys only like it because they are of the incorrect opinion that Twileks > Togrutas.
>>729594990>incorrect opinion that Twileks > Togrutas.based and togrutapilled >Warrior is mid (third best after inq Inq falls apart massively after the first few missions. I wanted actual Sith politicking and silliness but you just become Indiana Jones with force lightning.
>>729593431
>>729577974>WoW but Star Wars>it's funRight... I stopped being a teenager in 2012, OP, when did you?
>>729591549In terms of story the top three are Warrior, Knight, and Agent.Knight is basically KOTOR 3Warrior is all around cool whether you want to be a total murderhobo or cool. Light Side Warrior in particular is great where you want to make the Empire great and slap around the Sith that are shooting their own team in the foot with their retardationAgent is generally agreed to be the best story as you do splinter cell / deus ex / James Bond shit manipulating factions as you please and punking force fags while being a "normie". It probably has the most "endings" to choose from depending on your actions throughout the story
>>729595191The real question is when did you stop having fun
>>729594990Lol, lmao even. Romances in this game are lame as fuck buy Ashara is particularly bad.
>>729595090I like devouring souls and plumbing sith tombs though, especially when you get the chance to prove your superiority over the ghosts of the past. Plus the fact that I get to make an honest to god bros before hoes choice with my main man Khem Val brings me great joy. Forcing your way onto the dark council was fucking sweet too.
>>729579662>cringe>faggots>NPCs>shit thread>try hard>/v/irgins>shitpost>subhuman>psyop>copehow do you not feel embarrassed reading your own post and seeing you used all of these words in just two sentences. your brain is dilapidated.
>>729595372>main man Khem ValHe's based and I love bullying Zash inside his body and then fucking her over forever by making her think she'll win. Inq has awful companions besides him and the crazy little old man Imp. The knock off Ahsoka is awful
>>729595324Lana romance works well since it fits nicely with the overarching story and she's constantly present. Hell, you can even propose to her. Far deeper and more satisfying than what I'm used of a romance option in games
>>729583437there is a race of niggerly elves?
>>729593431>>729594151holy shit I forgot about that thing lmao
>>729595585Dark elves aka Drow
>>729595258>Knight is basically KOTOR 3I've seen this notion parroted everywhere, and it's absolutely laughable. The format is too constricting to tell any meaningful story. Swtor storylines are great for an MMO but cannot compete with any serious RPG.
Trooper had probably the unintentionally funniest final choice."Hey good job going through hell catching the super Sith General who was clowning on our forces and causing massive amounts of trouble and death for our side. Now we're gonna give him back to the Empire to save some POWs!"Dark Side: "If you do that I will quit right here and now you fucking retards."
>>729594556I did like that they used the old UI for the unvoiced dialogue
>>729595674i remember night and blood elves, not dark elves.
>>729595265WoW stopped being fun when I was around like 16, I couldn't imagine enjoying that type of MMO past my teens.
I really dislike the aesthetics of the Sith Empire in how it looks just like the Galactic Empire but more fancy. At least KOTOR tried to put their own spin on it by making familiar designs, but antiquated, such as the Leviathan or Sith Troopers.
>>729595682Not saying it isn't constricted and all that, but of all the classes its obviously the intended (not) KOTOR 3 story
>>729587143>ANY rep classes above imperial oneslollmao
>>729595787Solipsism
>>729595535>hates Talos (sign of an unsouled vessel)>finds no joy in raising Khem's khaleeshi mini-me>lacks the spirit for tempting JediFace it, you're a repressed pubby and probably mute global chat on DK.
>>729595682it's because the Knight story is most involved with the elements of the previous games(i.e. Scourge and the Emperor, so basically what the novel set up). And because Knight has arguably the most connections to Emperor, that importance carries through all the expansions.It's definitely not a replacement for an actual third game but I think some parts or sequences were good enough to be considered "Kotor 3" material.
>>729595721the smart choice is to bust a cap in him before they get the chance to hand him over
>>729595682>Swtor storylines are great for an MMO but cannot compete with any serious RPG.Agent's story easily mogs most serious RPG stories
>>729595535Teasing her with corruption was funny. It even flares up during her romance due to the whole light side "nooo you can't love!!!" bullshit
>>729577974>mmorpg>people usually rush endgame dungeons and raids>in kotor I played on release and just did story and casual pvp>had funIf you want dungeons just play wow mythics this is a story game
>>729595682I dunno. Agent's is pretty damn good
Unitonically very excited for the old republic era to be rebooted without ToRs sloppy lore. Lots of good ideas on paper with terrible terrible execution. I'm happy to get a fresh start, especially if the Kotor narrative is mostly untouched in the remake
>>729596551Was it confirmed to be a reboot?
>>729596551it's bound to be fucked up but I'll take Mass Effect: Star Wars Edition
>>729596551
>>729596661It's a "spiritual sequel", aka a choice-driven RPG in the Star Wars universe. We've already seen designs straight up lifted from the games, so expect more of that. As for story and characters, they'll probably re-use names and story beats but I wouldn't expect the same story.
>>729596551It has potential but it's basically vaporware right now. Until we get some actual evidence it exists I'll change my mind. I agree though that making it SWTOR without the bullshit and a time skip could be interesting. Canonise KOTOR through the remake, include cool elements from 2, and go on with their own thing.>>729596661All we know is that it's a spiritual successor but we saw the Leviathan in the trailer so who knows.
>>729596661Confirmed to be in the new canon. "Reboot" is a strong word but pretty accurate since its our first time seeing the era in this continuity
>>729596813>Leviathancould be any of those ships. Sith Interceptor iirc?
>>729596897>>729596551I hope that when it comes down to it, we get better distinctions between eras. "The old Republic" is a good catchall for branding purposes, but I always hated that the EU clumped 30 thousand years of different wars and events into the same "era". If TCW and the GCW are different eras, then surely the Old Republic should be in similarly sized chunks
>>729595535>>729595324I never understood why Jaesa was the only character who could have their alignment change depending on your actions. I get that its probably expensive to get the VAs to do two sets of dialogue depending on the alignment you choose for them and that it would make Jaesa less significant but in that case don't make another companion a jedi padawan? Especially don't make them STAY light sided when the only way to get them is to murder their master in front of them. It all feels like the set up for a typical sith but she's still wanting to fix the Jedi even if you're a baby killing lunatic. Also felt weird that you couldn't redeem a sith and have them as a companion as one of the jedi classes. Obvs theres Scourge but he's still sith just helping you stop the genocidal threat>>729596551This game is never coming out lmao they're still recruiting devs and the earliest release anyone can imagine is 2030. This has quietly cancelled all over it just like quantic dreams star wars game
>>729596551>DisneyslopI hope you get something you can like, anon. Maybe one day I will, too.
>>729580762They will never understand. There are millions of people today that think a decently challenging, long leveling journey is bad. If one single thing had to be pointed to for the downfall of mmos, it would be these people who demand braindead leveling. This is the single thing that, no matter tha game, removes all weight, friction, and immersion from these massive worlds. They will never understand that they are the cause of all these games turning to shit
>>729597035Yeah and it's even more stupid when you see there are three eras from the new republic, first order and new jedi order which is about 5 years.
>>729597092>Maybe one day I will, too.I genuinely hope you do. It saddens me when people can't find the same joy in things that I do.
>>729596813>include cool elements from 2Its owned by disney, they will absolutely ruin Kreia and the point of 2 because not doing it would mean they agree with the "force is evil" narrative.You will get an RPG about how hard it is to be a gay single mother jedi in patriarcy that society.
>>729597670Kotor 2 was always boomers first TLJ. I'm sure they would have no problem leaning into that.
>>729597805They absolutely do, cant make an infinite amount of games if the most well regarded game in the series is about how the force should be removed.Disney is not self aware enough to know whats good for them, see any of the Star Wars TV shows or movies where the point is to alienate your existing fanbase.And they will keep doing it, more gayer female protagonists with stories about how being a woman is hard
>>729577974
>>729598170You're inventing a scenario in your head to be upset about
>>729577974Maybe 4 or 5 campaigns out of 8 are fun, you could even call it a pure bioware of old kino, but the rest was mediocre and expansions suck.
>>729598638which ones
>>729598609No, I just have realistic excpectations about the kinds of products Disney releases, especially Star Wars.If it comes out and is good then ill be glad to be proven wrong, it wont and we will get an even worse version of Star Wars Outlaws
>>729598638>you could even call it a pure bioware of old kinolmfao
>>729598764Both siths are good, imperial agent is probably one of the best stories in gaming ever (I am serious), the rest are worse. Jedi Consul is slightly more interesting than Jedi Knight, bounty Hunter is fine, trooper and smuggler are boring
>>729577974>we got kotor 1 written by 5yr olds instead of kotor 3>it's actually gay/v/ and OP gay once again
>>729598764From my experience The Imperial Agent is the best due to being genuinely well written and something completely different for star wars. The Sith Warrior is very good if you want to be comically evil or pragmatic and manipulative. Those are the two that are unanimously agreed to be good. Personally for me I really enjoyed the Bounty Hunter, I've always wanted to play as one and I found a lotta fun just going from planet to planet hunting my target with my weird crew
>>729599643Bounty Hunter and Smuggler were fun because they just felt like silly side stories in Star Wars. Not everything has to have an epic plot and I enjoyed them, plus they have great companions. Smuggler is extra based because you can go around constantly fucking your companion who knees to your giga chad ways with the ladies.
>>729600116*cucking not fuckingStupid phoneposting
>>729600116Going full Pirate King with Smuggler was fun. Fuck the Republic
>>729577974>he doesn't remember pre-tortanic /v/
>>729600651God bress stanrey roo and the insane BioWare social network
>>729577974anyone who shits on swtor has probably not played it. the game itself has like 8 different single player campaigns each 20-30 hours each. the writing definitely varies in quality but some are quite good and stand on their own(agent , warrior, etc) all for free. mmo combat is very meh but the world's and stories are still pretty good for a free game. the dlc stories also range in writing quality, but overall as a free game if your a star wars fan there's no reason not to play a class story.
>>729597597Such is life
>>72957797415+ years too late.In all seriousness. The launch was terrible. But it's been fixed for well over a decade. It's kinda insane just how out of touch some people past the age of 30 are. Most of yall are stuck in the past and still think it's terrible because "Tortanic"
>>729595823Isn't it encoded in the weird way that SW lore functions that it was these ships from the Sith Empire that were later copied by the Galactic Empire?
>>729577974if you actually find this fun, that's a gigantic insult to you. it's literally reskinned WoW, some of the abilities are directly copied mechanics-wise and simply visually reskinnedactual /v/-tier mmos are games with high difficulty raiding and/or hardcore PVP like everquest and ultima online. bragging that you find bottom of the barrel mmo's for the lowest common denomenator fun is not a good look for you no matter what angle you view it from
>>729603121MMO gameplay isn't fun, you just have Asperger's Syndrome.
>>729603294I can't fucking sit still for 5 minutes. The gameplay in most MMO's are so fucking boring . I just don't get it. Auto attack and then spam some abilities on top of it. Fetch quests, kill X amount of enemies.And you can't even get to the good parts (challenging end game) without going through boring ass fucking beginning content. SOOOOO B ORING.
>>729603294cool, any other posts you'd like to make to demonstrate to everyone how much of a newfag you are? /v/ had both an everquest and ultima online guild
>>729603405>i'm an ADHD spastic zoomer that needs constant dopamine hits every 5 seconds or less or i'm BOREDwe know
>>729577974The base game's class stories are still pretty solid, much better than the Disney plus slop
im having a blast!
>>729603121Toontown is the /v/ MMO.
>>729578103I always thought people like this were crazy so I spent whatever it was for a 1 month subscription to unlock the rest of the game to see what was up. Mother fuckers were absolutely correct.I won't say it was horrible but god damn the entirety of KotFE is like those quests where they take you into a thin cave and you're forced to fight like 50%-70% of the mobs but instead it's 100% and they're all the same god damn robot enemies.1-50 is the game at it's best, 50-55 was good, 55-60 was good but got silly post Revan. After that...it's all Dead Space(™).Eternal Throne was okay but I feel like I only enjoyed it more because I was brutally murdering several different characters that I wanted to brutally murder.Couldn't even tell you what everything post ET is, I remember mandalorians which should have been good but some bitchy witch was ruining it, and then "Somehow Malak returned".
>>729603764uh.... no, you monumental faggot furry
The sad thing about SWTOR is that if EA wasn't so short-term greedy, they could have made one of the best Star Wars games. TOR actually has some good writing, like the subversion with Vemrin at the start of the Sith Warrior story. Basically, your character is everything wrong with the sith, and Vemrin had to fight for everything he had. So, if EA took TOR's writing, and choose to make a heavily modified version of Jedi Academy, we could have had kino. Plus, they could have made more money in the long term because that style of combat pairs better with controllers than the regular MMO kind, meaning they could easily port that to consoles.
>>729603413>Buh buh buh I joined the secret internet club
>>729603504Grinding is for faggots.
>>729577974>everyone teams up to end the Emperor>the MC kills the Emperor after saying "YOU are nothing", mirroring Malak's last words and coming full circle>Satele makes peace with her life and leaves Echoes of Oblivion was the perfect ending to SWTOR, instead they brought back Malgus and ruined everything.
>>729577974It's a great crpg that had no business being an mmo
>>729604513I'm glad you were able to find the sequel trilogy compelling.
>>729604513>Decades after swtor>Darth Desolous kills tons of jedi with a sword and board>Corellia and Coruscant go to war centuries after swtorSand gets everywhere, you never really get it out
>>729604490and what does that have to do with this thread? Nobody is here posting gookgrind like lineage 2
>>729604513I hate this version of Revan and the Exile
>>729604882lol
Warrior story was fun
>>729603504There's nothing mentally stimulating mindlessly auto attacking and spamming abilities and doing fetch quests. Are MMOniggers really this delusional?
>>729577974Best companion marry?
>>729604513thisit was pretty cringe but at least it felt like an ending
>>729607493finding out how each of them reacted to you getting carbon'd was a riotpic semi-related
>>729607721>Lanadanger zone
>>729600651Takes me back to Shitposting and trashtalking endlessely in the Bioware and tortanic threads in 2011... damn i miss those years. Bioware was already done by then, should have been closed down by EA ages ago actually. Man what a waste...
>>729586059Yes, vette literally best girl
>>729607721I love my crackhead wife Lana
I went back for a while but got bored with Onslaught and quit when Kira and Scourge show up. Does the story get better with Legacy of the Sith?
>>729606981Warrior is objectively better but I still prefer the Inquisitor's rags to riches story of going from a slave to one of the most powerful sith in the galaxy
>>729609510>Does the story get better with Legacy of the Sith?lol, no. All of your achievements remain destroyed while you are reduced to an errand boy in the same conflict with the same villain. Worse: Suddenly, everything revolves around boring as fuck Mandalorian crap because of course need to cash in on that baby yoda shit. Oh, and your character is weak as fuck now. Once strongest entity in the entire universe and emperor, now incapable of defeating some random dude with a sword 2vs1. Also gets knocked out constantly.
>>729607493Of the originals probably Vette. >Fun balance to Warrior>Ride or die when you bond>Pure virgin that will only lose it after marrying Warrior>Gets kinky with the slave play when you dominate her with your cock after marriage
>>729577974I'm pretty sure OP is this much of a fucking retarded zoomer that he confuses this shit with KOTOR lmao fucking idiot
>>729609679Playing a schizo Inquisitor spouting goofy shit on occasion was great. It's also sometimes funny if you are doing light side like the whole scenario with the jedi who ditched his fiance at the altar >Inquisitor genuinely playing matchmaker for shits and giggles as well as to get what he wants so everyone wins without a headache>Jedi acts like the most boneheaded holier than thou mother fucker in the galaxy>Fiance is flabbergasted but Inquisitor manages to smooth it over and hammer in "Dude, she loves you. I know its hard for you Jedi but stop being a colossal faggot.">Seems like he finally goes for it and happy ending is achieved. >"Ah that worked out swell!">Cut to the faggot showing up again, saying he manipulated his fiance and that he is going to slay you and how he is oh so holier than thou>"Holy shit wow. I kinda actually feel bad for that lady. She has the worst taste in men."
>>729610349MURDER and MAYHEM await!
>>729610437I suppose I can lower myself to do this...
>>729607594 Honestly yeah, it was jank as hell but at least it *closed* the damn loop. Everything after that just keeps dragging Revan's corpse out of the grave to squeeze out a few more nostalgia shekels. At least back then it felt like we got something resembling closure instead of endless mobile game-tier trash.
>>729577974>it's actually fun Killing republicans troopers and spreading the influence of the Sith Empire over the galaxy is always good. Destroying the Meridian Shipyards while taking it's head engineer as a hostage is peak.>/v/ wrong once againAnd the truest Sith have red-skin and face tendrils.
Kill Republic weaklings like tuskens children.
>>729610349>Inquisitor
I downloaded it a few months ago and played a Sith Warrior up until the end of the class story and felt satisfied enough to not do any expansion content. Might go back and do another class like Agent at some point, but I was was happy with what I got out of my time.
>>729610437>>729610467I am DEADLY, not cute.
>>729580996Sometimes when I comment on a game (or any other piece of media) I'm kinda afraid this site has poisoned me into always focusing too much on the flaws and not enough on the strengths. Even with games I like and played a lot if asked to explain my opinion on them I'll go "I liked it except for X, Y and Z". But I just find that it's so much easier to talk about what's wrong than about what's right, because with what's right you just kinda go "Yeah this is cool and well-designed, I like it" where with something wrong you can go in depth about why you think it's wrong, how you think the devs reached that point, how you think it should have been done instead, how much exactly does it poison the whole experience, etc.
>>729611282Warrior is one of the few classes that also works in the expansions without seeming out of place, so go wild.
>>729595585human/elf hybrids with token one-armed nigger to pander
>>729611282Agent is an excellent companion piece to Warrior imo, you go from the top of the Imperial hierarchy to starting out as a cog in the machine, it's great
>>729612335Is this modded?
>>729612519No. Looks like body type 4 in slut wear
>>729595857smuggler is easily top 2 so
>>729609228>>729594953Vette is a bit too submissive and clearly meant to be a good guy, Sith Warrior needed a bad bitch
The iffy parts is: Agent makes most sense as the last story because of the whole conspiracy thing.
>mfw I'm trying to report back to watcher 2 that I've been brainwashed by the SIS but my dialogue choices are being over-ridden by the programming>>729612958Agreed. There are a lot of off-hand comments on events and characters involved in the other class stories too, which is lost if you aren't familiar with them beforehand. Really adds to the feeling you're operating behind the scenes of all these major events which is awesome.
>>729583437That's only because WoW fell to lower lows, not because TOR was great to begin with.
>>729613149Having Watcher X in your head was pure kino
>>729607594It was kinda cringe but at least it ended. After that it's endless jedi vs sith wars until Darth Bane wipes the slate clean.
>>729612898I prefer this dynamic with em
>>729611282Revan expansion has a follow up quest for every class story btw
>>729614118it's very brief though, not really worth playing just for that
>>729614343I liked the Knight one because you get to talk to your old master againvery jedi thing to do
>>729589201Don't forget what comes afterwards. The ultimate slap on the face that is Iokath, and how it makes even the speck of shit you might've given about the results of the eternal empire into nothingness.
>>729612898You've got Jaesa as Sith Warrior, is she not enough of a bad bitch for you? Or maybe too much.
>>729612335I love fat bitchesReinstalling
>come back to game after like a year>one of my names has been taken from meBullshit
>>729616747They can just do that?
>>729616987I vaguely remember something about inactivity freeing up names and you get some randomly generated one instead
Trooper Armour is really cool but the animations are awful and its such a waste, can't escape it like you can the storyline.
>>729616987Apparently. The moment your account is flagged inactive your character names become available to whoever tries their luck on the character creation screen.
>>729586059The game doesn't properly support a racist playthrough, although you can discriminate against aliens.>an alien gf?Vette is best
SWTOR, for all its faults, introduces the most complex portrayal of the Sith as a philosophy and a society. Sure, you have your Palpatines, Vaders, and outright retards. Then you have the noble demons you can play as or meet. Teaming up with a Jedi to kill a rival Sith Lord that is a greater threat to the Republic too and the guy wishing the Jedi and Sith could meet more like that instead of enemies. Lana is probably the most normal and level-headed Sith who manages to be a charming person despite the whole using people as pawns thing
>>729617756I actually like the setting a lot.
>>729578768>>729579101PvP was great too. World PvP was shit but man, Huttball... chef's fucking kissBest battlegrounds ever, WoW can eat shit and WISHES it had Huttball
>>729617982same
>>729586048That's anything. 2000s rap and auto tune is considered okay to good now because at least they attempted to rhyme and have a good beat. So many avenues of entertainment went down the shitter in the past decade that theyre below the crust.
this slave cake is too big and rich
>>729589201It was absolute shlock writing but you can enjoy the ride of the eternal empire expacs to some degree. being able to murder that annoying companion you were stuck with is always a nice touchiokath as the other anon said is where they go outright full retard, which was bioware VERY hamfistedly trying to reset the setting beyond a few characters still hanging around if you didn't kill them
>>729591189I imagine they blew their load on any kotor3 material in the first couple expacs or even in the basegame
Who should've been the Sith Emperor in place of Vitiate?My idea was a survivor of the original purge of Korriban. The most respected, feared, and powerful Sith alive. The problem? He's lived for so long and become such an embodiment of the Force he is no longer completely conscious in the present moment, leaving the Dark Council to rule in his stead. When he reaches points of clarity, conflicts across Sith space cease and the Sith Empire immediately becomes a devastating force to be reckoned with.Like Nihilus but less a blackhole of the force and a being extremely close to being one with it without fully losing their physical form. A play on the Jedi philosophy ironically by one of their enemies.And to introduce some grayness, he'd lean into the whole genocide that happened on Korriban. It being the one thing he can still remember clearly after all the centuries. His people dying from being cut off from the force because the Jedi didn't understand them. The infighting that likely came after. That, after everything, only he remains and can remember what it was like to truly be Sith.Battle dialogue about how he can't ever forgive the Jedi for what they've done. How, if you convinced some Sith to betray him, his brethren could stoop so low. Confusion as to who some apprentices he can barely remember not being there to help him. Stuff like that.His dying words, from being killed or maybe even convinced to give up finally:"Forgive me... I could only save myself in the end.""...Korriban. Home. At last."
AT LEAST IT WAS BEFORE I FUCKED ERRYTHANG UP
>>729618819fuck you for making me laugh anon
It’s actually better than wow that’s what’s funny I just don’t have time for MMOsBtw anything V says the opposite is trueThat’s how you can tell it’s all third worlders niggers and butthurt troglodytes that would get their ass kicked In real life if they ever said any of this shit
>>729618846gotcha
>>729609958the mandoslop is where I finally tapped outI neither cared about their conflict nor should I be jobbing to random ass mandaloriansjust Taris the lot of them and be done with it
>>729607493Lana, bitch would kill everyone just to get you back
>>729617982I do think (and maybe it's just the 40gay player in me talking) there's some merit to a star wars setting like TOR where there's an endless amount of toys in the toybox to mess around with. You've got the sith and the jedi at arguably the peak of their power, an empire AND a republic, massive underground crime syndicates, mandalorians, and a bunch of ancient precursor shit lying around to boot. Sure the visual style is an obvious riff on the movies but sometimes it's nice to just sit back and play the hits now and then.
>>729618918Projecting ESL. Nobody is getting their ass kicked for calling a video game bad you terminally online invalid.
>>729607721I love Lana so much it's unreal. Haven't played SWTOR but I still remember her, not a single other game I've played since then has had female companion as compelling
>>729619382she's a keeper for sure
>>729582821>>729583913Yeah there are people who still do raids last time I played before quitting again. They usually advertise in Republic/Empire fleet chat.Don't like how you have to reach 110% accuracy in order to do shit though.
>>729619595That final paragraph, makes me wanna redownload SWTOR just to go through Shadow of revan and beyond just for Lana again, but then I remember that SWTOR might be on it's last legs, I'll have to settle for the 6 hour Youtube vid
>>729619861The games functionally in maintenance mode but I don't see how that would effect you just going through early expac content
>>729577974level sync was a mistake
I'm pretty confident they're not gonna shut down the servers as long as there's no other SW MMO on the horizonand I don't see that happening anytime soon
>>729598170>the most well regarded game in the series is about how the force should be removedBut KotOR isn't about that?
>>729620125I dont see any star wars game in general on the horizonit's been two years since jedi survivor and not a word regarding a sequel
>>729620219>I dont see any star wars game in general on the horizonStar Wars Galactic Racer is supposedly next year.
>>729582980fucking kek this brings out memories
>>729604513Malgus is the least of it, if it actually focused on him and his story it'd be fine.But instead of Malgus you get tons upon tons of Mandalorian shit, coupled with some fucking MORE Mandalorian shit and to top it all off, EVEN FUCKING MORE MANDALORIAN SHIT. And their leader is literally some cunt you already handily beat in one of the FIRST story flashpoints post-KotET.Fuck I can't put into words how utterly fucking dull Heta Kol and her gangbangers are holy fucking shit.
>>729620219Jedi 3 has been "soft" announced afaik, no official statement yet thoughGalactic Racer and the Xcom one are supposedly next yearthen there's the Kotor remake and uuuuuuuuhhh
>>729619967I suppose it's more of a time investment thing, new character > finish main quest and maybe side quests so my choices get acknowledged > Lana content > maintenance mode content. maybe a solid 2 month adventure unless I had the time to no life it. I remember how cancerous free to play was, so 40$ for 2 months? And I know by the time I'm done, I'll be sad that it's over. Best I just watch highlights
>>729612643Top 2 of the trash heap, sure.
>>729594202Why are you playing as a girl?You are male.
>>729620487>then there's the Kotor remake and uuuuuuuuhhhit's never coming outthey're hiring in every major position at the company
>>7296206011 of 2 reasons. Either he's just a gooner, or he has a mild to extreme case of AGP, why else would a male play as a girl?
>>729596551Imagine liking the retconned old republic started by Dave Filioni because the Revan novel is triggering. It's like people liking TFA because Chewie died in Vector prime.
>>729610437>>729610467>tfw Dialogue option 3 is [Force Lightning]
>>729577974>Can't bang satelenah it's shit
>>729620845Not me. I'm just gonna hate all of it.
>>729620082correct
>>729620082>>729621069>some fights used to actually be hard>are now a fucking cakewalk because you come in at max stats for a level
>>729621007Me too, it's going to be Rings of Power: Star Wars Edition.
>>729609679the VA for male inquisitor is also greatone of the few who manages to stay consitantly good throughout the game and expansions. some (bounty hunter) really just phone it in past a certain point
>>729621163meh
>>729621201dont ever reply to one of my posts again unless you have something to contribute to the thread
>>729621254kys
>>729620753>AGPWhat's that?
>>729620510fair enough, though I would note it's only $30 for 2 months
>>729621701autogynepheliawhen you get off on thinking you're a girl or dressing as oneas someone who actually did this alongside his sister to fuck with his family before, i felt absolutely nothingplaying as a girl makes you a troon is a psyop
>>729621701Anal Gape Potential
>>729620487supposedly the kotor 1 remaster is still in development, but as with the other stuff it's radio silence so unclear if true
>>729586059>>729594953>>729612898Does Vette get any content going forward, or only Lana?
literally what is there to do in this game besides the story for each class which is just a single player RPG at that point?
>>729622631ERP
>>729577974It was just fun when you had a subscription, everything is paywalled
Lana >>>> every other companion
>>729622631Dungeons/raids, PvP, filling your house with stupid shit?
>>729623563i had one and very little changed besides not needing to do as much side stuffi effectively paid for less content
>>729589315trying one these emu made me realize why i was excited to play swtor all those years ago: This game was a fucking grind.Maybe not one of the worst ones out there, but its still not fun.
>>729622631doing your legacy tree, getting more companions, doing those holocrons jumping puzzles, grinding those dailies?
>>729577974Is Jedi Knight a good story? I've already play Sith Warrior and I don't want to be a nerd Inquisitor
>>729586059Sith Warrior is optimally played as a milf hunter since it lets you bang a ton of older Sith women but Vette is fine too
>>729622345Vette gets some post content but the latese comes of as a finale, and it may as well be, pretty sure that update came out more than a year ago. Only Lana and main cast gang get new content
>>729624174It's decent, not at good as Warrior but nothing but Agent tops Warrior.
>>729624174Well yeah, Jedi Knight is like the main story route.
As far as I'm concerned, the story ended with Valkorion's final death. I now live with my wife Lana in an isolated cottage. Theron and his non-human wife also come to visit from time to time. Jedi & Sith fighting again? Nah, Tis a peaceful existence.
>>729623616>>729622345Lana is the de facto/romance companion now. Everyone else just fodder in the devs' eyes
>>729624273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w-eb3Mttno
>>729625237kek
>>729577974it's still my go to game when i want to get drunk and not stress out with other multiplayer games
>>729622631pvp and raiding are fine
>>729622631Nothing really. The rest of the game's content is completionism and achievements. Explore this, explore that, collect this, and collect that. Unless you care about that, there's nothing more to the game.
TOR was the TLJ of the KotOR games
>>729620845Honestly all the novels and also most of ToR. It's a tainted continuity at this point. I'm absolutely open to redoing things with Kotor 1 and 2 as a baseline
How is the story in pursuit of ruin? i took a break from the game to finish some other games, damn mmos taking 900 hours to grind gear and stuff.
>>729596551A blind, deaf, comatose lobotomy patient would know better than to be excited for anything D*sney does to Star Wars.
>>729628178>t.
Whats better for main story after the class ones, Sith Warrior or Jedi Knight?
>>729577974It's boring grind wtf are you talking about nigg*r?
>>729625685it's greatbioware could never do it today
>>729628892Baras is one of the only characters from TOR I wouldn't mind being made a legit, legendary Sith figure.
>>729628956There's no real difference between them
>>729628956Sith Warriorhis stage actor va is phenomenal>>729629019>Marr>Malgus>Jadus>VowranSo much of SWtoR is shit but these dudes and Baras make the Sith seem far more complex
>>729580762>Respect the contentBack to XIV you go :3
>>729625237that fucking thumbnail LOL
>>729627810>Sith Empire has a far more Aztec/Egyptian aesthetic>Revan and Exile are neutral or outright oppositional to the Republic and Empire because they no longer fall under the domain of Jedi or Sith>emperor is >>729618697>no oc donut steel empire in some backwater of the galaxy
>>729627810Rebels already tainted it though, so it wasn't even a good restart.
>>729629521>include Malachor>what happened is so goddamn vague and ceases to be relevant the beginning of the next seasonEzra's dark side arc was a giant missed opportunityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTTWvmJ3hY
>>729628956Sith Warrior is a complete parallel to Malgus if you romance Vette
>>729629689The fact that it's going to be associated with World Between Worlds is already more bs than the Revan Novel. Plus the old republic reboot will tie in with Rey's NJO.
>>729629812>tfw played a BT3 Mauraudertwo sabers is superior to onehttps://youtu.be/fMTBznrsqiI&t=525
>>729629868disgustingit should be nuked from orbit
I'll never understand why this game doesn't have auto attack
>>729623616
>>729628956post vanilla you mean? they both work equally well. if you put a gun to my head I'd say knight only because they don't handle the >you need to kill the one guy you were supposed to be loyal too that well for warrior
>>729630982what are you talking about?that's what the sith are all about at the end of the day
>>729628956both are pretty close
jedi knight's story sucks though
>>729578860>us
>>729631024it's not the concept of betrayal it's more how they go about itlike hutt cartel does point out you're pretty much a free agent since the emperor is "dead", but then in shadows of revan you get contacted by one of the hands hunting vowrawn and the whole implication the emperor might still be alive, and it does let you larp as a emperor loyalist if you want (I agree who the fuck is betraying our bro vowrawn but still)then he starts his plan to revive himself and we're trying to stop him for reasons then he basically says fuck you on ziost.whereas jedi knight it's braindead obvious why you want to hunt him no matter what
>>729593501Take me back
>Inquisitors are the Intelligence/CID/Counterespionage branch of the Sith>the story all about a Sith spy network is given to warrior>Warrior starts off as someone being rushed through trials and treated like a special overachiever with huge potential>the story all about rushing through the Sith ranks because you're a special overachiever who uses ghosts instead of old fashioned experience is given to inquisitorWill always bug me.
