>>729595109
People got filtered by the ring mechanic and the AI was way too fucking rubber bandy the first month. I do agree it's a way better game both off and online

>>729595109
I play the shit out of this game
And I also make character mods for it

I played it for a while but one can only take so many last places before depression sets in. (I am using a keyboard)

>>729595607
>using keyboard for a racing game
nigga just get a cheap ass controller

>>729595109
Explain the differences from kart and I might mig like the migger I am

>>729595109
>It mogs srb2kart
it doesnt, game is utter convoluted garbage

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>>729595109
Its missing the entire concept of simply outpacing your opponents via speed and driving skill because of how many ridiculous. mechanics are layered on.
>Rings and how they work when your both in first and behind 1st
>Stat blocks and how they all slightly affect your drafting among other things
>Items and all the various shit they can and can't do depending on the situation your in and the current placement your in
>Drifting and how theirs like two types of drifting, one of which you can only do with boost (but not every kind of boost mind you)
>the tracks being so wacky that prior knowledge will practically win you the race more so than actual driving and sometimes even items
>even more shit I cant be bothered to remember

>skill based racing game
>look inside
>RNG

>>729595109
It's near impossible to figure out on you own.

is it easy to setup with friends?

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>>729595109
I platinum'd Master mode when it first came out. I'm saying that because I know KartKrew cock slurpers from discord are going to tell me I've got "le skill issue." (Grand Master is a meme mode that would prove nothing by me sinking another ten hours grinding out, miss me with that too.) It's a beautiful game, with a great OST (even if most of it isn't in-house), and a lot of the tracks are really neat. It's also a fucking mess of ideas that only kinda sorta work. Mostly what >>729597349
said. I WANT to like the game, but it just absolutely despises you, as a player. With SRB2K, you know exactly what you're getting, every single time, even if it's not as deep. (Which isn't a bad thing.) I think that's what people want with kart racers, not some kind of quasi-fighting game racer maximum sweatlord autism. I think Crossworlds proves that, given how no one talks about this game anymore, even before that game dropped.

Maybe the more recent updates refined mechanics and made things more cohesive, but I doubt it, given how stubborn the devs are. And that's fine. I've had my fun (and """"fun""""") with the game. Get back to me when it's actually feature complete in like ten or so years. Story mode might be halfway interesting, I guess. I'm content to let the troons have their little pet project circle jerk.

>>729595109
I just can't really be bothered to learn it. I respect the design decisions they made and abhor the entitled brats that are still pitching a fit over it, but at the same time it's just not the game for me and I will permanently be sticking to SRB2K

>>729596063
It's the F-Zero to SRB2K's Mario Kart

>>729595109
>It mogs srb2kart
Simplicity is king in a racing game. You have the gas, the brakes, the drift button if you're feeling cheeky, and the road. Ring Racers does not understand this, and added thirty five convoluted meme mechanics that never should have been there.

>>729600636
That won't make me migrate, both f-zero and Mario kart are good

>>729600636
F-Zero 99 has two mechanics: boost strafing with the bumpers, and Skyway using sparks. That's it. Two additional mechanics. Not fucking thirty, so many that I need a strategy guide with CliffNotes and three additional buttons on my gamepad to use them all.

>>729595109
Because it's the hardest kart racer of all time

>>729600905
>You have the gas, the brakes, the drift button if you're feeling cheeky, and the road
Enjoy your glorified time trials, faggot.

>>729602104
....yes. That's the point of racing. You race the car.

>>729602151
And if all you want are those time trials, then go have fun doing them. No need for you to come up in here going wah wah wah about what other people are doing when you've already stated you're content to go fuck off on your lonesome.

>>729602536
why are you mad? they're not the one that ruined the sequel to srb2k. what's so hard to understand about people wanting kart racers to be easy to understand, with items and mechanics that are subtle and don't overwhelm the player? tons of kart racers get this right, but ring racers did not. it's not that complicated.

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>>729595109
I absolutely fucking love it and have been making maps for it for the last couple months but I don't think it and SRB2K are really comparable, even if I do like DRRR far more than SRB2K. They're very different games.
2.4 was such a goddamn good update that it made this game my GotY two years in a row.

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What are your favorite modded tracks? My favorites are this corn one and Studiopolis.

Too busy playing Air Riders's City Trial

>>729602665
Bro, you don't even need SRB2K. That's too many mechanics for you. Remember, just the gas, brakes, drift, and road. Go play your little time trials off on your lonesome like you like. Go on, shoo.

>>729600905
>Ring Racers does not understand this, and added thirty five convoluted meme mechanics that never should have been there.
None of the mechanics are "convoluted", they're just strange. Rings are just a health/fuel system and everything else is just interplay to make sure that items are actually balanced compared to something like Mario Kart. People overstate the complexities of DRRR way too hard.

>>729595109
I'm perfectly willing to admit that i can't into ring racers. I got royally filtered.
I'm fine being a shitter that plays rb2kart.

>>729602695
Tetrimino Palace from CAS's tracks is probably my favorite, if only because the dynamic per-lap music from F-Zero 99 fucking owns.

looks like a ring racers autist got activated, ah well
they got their answer, either they accept it or they keep whining about it

>>729603190
>vague replyless posting because you don't want to engage in an actual discussion
is there a bigger sign of a worthless poster

>>729597536
Pretty easy. If you have Discord activity sharing on, you can self-host a server and send invites directly through Discord.

>>729597349
>>729599319
Git.Gud
>b-b-but i don't have the time!
Then go back to playing brainrot that takes no skill

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It's the epitome of Sonic autism given form as a kart racer. The commitment to the craft is commendable, but its at best an acquired taste and even then is filled to the brim with puzzling decisions from unlockables and their timings to track selection remade from SRB2K that can only be explained by them being decided by a circlejerk of a dozen faggots on Discord.

>>729602851
I blame the fact that they over-termed the game's systems. For example, if you just read the manual's section on "wavedashing," it can be enough to make your head spin, especially since it's without any good depiction of what everything looks like in practice. Instead of "wavedashing" and "weak vortex" and "locked vortex" and all this other shit, just say
>continue sliptiding to charge up a slipturbo
>a small mini-slipturbo will be used immediately, but a full one can be held if you start boosting or drifting
The whole damn manual is just over-jargon'd to shit and makes it hard to really get into

It honestly reminds me of a lot of my experience with learning/teaching certain board games. Like you can take a simple mechanic and put a fancy name on it or add in certain-but-otherwise-simple words around it, and suddenly people are 10,000-times more confused because they think more is going on than there is.

>>729604120
Yeah, it's the kind of thing that could really benefit from a full overhaul of the tutorial and manual; you can tell the devs are a little too familiar with their own terminology already so explaining it gets tricky. The actual ways in which the unique mechanics work are largely intuitive, it's just that poor explainations stop people at the door.

Of course, the flipside is that having more specific terms like that makes discussion easier among people who understand what's going on, so I wouldn't want the fancy terms removed, either. Having the tripwire-passing thing be renamed to "Sonic Boom" in 2.4 was legitimately really helpful. (Aside from when they were calling it "proration" during the 2.4 test builds, what the fuck were they thinking there)

>>729604018
>It's the epitome of Sonic autism given form as a kart racer
Indeed, and it's a shame that people, especially here, are so kneejerking towards it. It's somewhat overloaded, sure, but a lot of it is sensible at the end of the day, and a lot of the arguments against it just boil down to
>dat's not what ur supposed ta doo in a kart racer
like alright, go play one of the dozens of other by the numbers kart racers instead of a niche passion project. It's quite a shift that anons would be going all "sorry, this is unique and trying too much, make it like everything else."

Granted, I know part of it is that some people just really wanted them to keep working on SRB2K instead, but it's also not like they've locked down any of their work either. Forks like Noire are easily able to exist, and there's nothing truly preventing people from making SRB2K 2.0 while building on as much or as little code as they want from DRRR for the upgraded baseline. At this point, it's just entitlement to demand they take their own talent and work on something they obviously don't want to, when the people who hate it could easily do it themselves.

>>729595109
>mogs srb2kart
in terms of being bloated with tranny speedrunner shit and tranny art style patterns.

>729605376
(You)

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>>729595109
it insists upon itself

>>729605504
They added that line to the description specifically because people kept getting mad about it not being a casual kart racer.

>>729597349
>Rings and how they work when your both in first and behind 1st
The fuck are you even talking about? Rings don't change how they work based on position at all, you're just making shit up.

I need to get around to recording some 2.4 webms one of these days, but I always forget to record anything when I sit down to play

>>729595109
>filters /v/
me included

>>729607435
If you tried playing before 2.4, I'd reccommend giving it another shot. A lot of mechanics got changed and the handling was made a lot nicer, especially for heavyweights.

>>729604685
i honestly think the reaction would've been better if they didnt have the tutorial. if people had just gone in blind, tried to play it like srb2k and slowly figured out the actual mechanics by themselves. or if they just added a classic mode

>>729607679
Genuinely, the tutorial is the surest sign that the devs have 'tism. Something you'll see a lot in people who have it is that they overexplain everything they do, which annoys other people, which leads to further overexplanation because autists are averse to being misunderstood. Personally I loved the tutorial even at launch, but I'm also autistic.

>>729604685
>like alright, go play one of the dozens of other by the numbers kart racers instead of a niche passion project.
Okay, that's what people are doing. The whole appeal of SRB2Kart is that it's basically MUGEN Kart.

So does it also have the same shit as sonic kart where the driving/kart physics blows and the average stage is designed like liquid dogshit?

>>729608694
If you mean Crossworlds, no, the stages and physics are a lot better IMO. One of the lead devs does like Crossworlds, but in the autistic way where he's made like 4 videos on youtube talking about how stupid Crossworlds' stage design is.

>>729600636
f-zero gx has 4 buttons, it just also has a fully realized physics/aerodynamics system so specific combinations of those 4 buttons interact with your cars weight/size/speed to cause crazy shit to happen. shit you only need to beat the developer speedrun times hidden in the game.

if f-zero was like ring racers, in order to MTS you would have to gear change several times and then the game would magically MTS for you instead of actually driving your car in a nonstandard and reactive way. it's easy to learn but hard to master f-zero vs hard to learn but easy to master ring racers because once you take the seminar on how all the mechanics work they work the same pretty much every time, nobody wants to bother with mastering a game they've played for 5 minutes though so it's shit and I'd rather play f-zero for 100 more hours

>>729595109
It's good but the rubber band with the AI is ridiculous in some levels.

It's better than srb2kart by default by having AI opponents in the first place. I'm not playing online with brazil wifi connection.

>>729609867
>instead of actually driving your car in a nonstandard and reactive way
Please explain how Ring Racers isn't like this, because I guarantee you're wrong.

>>729603907
Then don't complain about people not playing the game.

>>729609910
The AI rubberbanding gets a lot more managable when you realize they only runberband to compensate for being unable to drift and having no way to actually handle trap items like banana/landmine/etc. It does mean that heavyweights are a little better in Singleplayer because they get better drifts/amps, though.

>>729603907
>It gets good 20 hours in
has never been a good motivator

>>729595109
>mechanicslop
kart racers shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to learn

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They should have just made srb3 instead. Imagine a third game with ring racers graphics....

>>729610209
>>729610247
I don't know

>>729599319
>Maybe the more recent updates refined mechanics and made things more cohesive
They actually went the complete opposite direction. They added in even more mechanics and now the game is more complicated than ever before. I wish I was joking, but even as someone who's been playing SRB2K/DRRR for years it's gone past the point of being way too much for me.

>>729610265
It would have to be on a better engine than doom to justify it but at that point its trying to compete with all the other sonic fan games.

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>>729610247
>>729610209
>I'M A CASUALFAG AND I'M PROUD
Good for you, faggots.

>>729610569
The new mechanics are genuine refinements, though, and previous mechanics were improved to accomodate them. Just saying
>LOL THEY ADDED EVEN MORE MECHANICS HOW SILLY
Is a gross oversimplification.

I enjoyed it before 2.4. Mechanics aside, they bumped up the lap count of many maps, hid the timer, and angled down the camera in some maps for no good reason. Tickles my autism too much.

>>729595109
When you're going fast it feels fantastic. When you're slowing down a bit, even making a sharp corner, the mechanics combine unfavorably to make the vehicles feel simultaneously weightless and incapable of moving under their own power. In SRB2Kart you felt heavy, but not so heavy you couldn't get moving in a direction in a few seconds. Boosting was also given out just a bit more liberally, and air control worked way better.
Also, a game with F-Zero-like health based boosting where you get a bonus for crossing the finish line with FULL health/boost is just plain fucking retarded.

>>729610586
>trying to compete with all the other sonic fan games
You mean all the green hill single level demos? Name 1 3d Sonic fangame that isn't a glorified demo.

>>729610881
>and angled down the camera in some maps for no good reason
They only did that for the MEGA maps to make things easier to see, since the MEGA maps are all flat by design.

>>729595109
Disastrous launch killed all its momentum

>>729611040
sparx

>>729595109
>>729605504
With a description like this and saying it's inspired by fighting games, it's not surprising that "nobody plays this." Every fighting game that isn't Street Fighter has problems retaining players.

>>729595109
The game that filtered the fuck out of /v/ don't ever forget

>>729609953
in gx what determines if you gain or lose speed while drifting is
>speed
>weight
>car shape
>max speed/acceleration setting
>the angle you took
aka shit that translates to how cars work irl.

in ring racers what determines if you gain or lose speed while drifting is
>how good you are at the various minigames we included that reward you with speed boosts if you do them properly and punish you with crashing into a wall if you don't
you aren't racing a car, you're playing a rhythm game with engine sounds. I like rhythm games, but this is why a lot of people don't care for ring racers

>>729612038
I think you just genuinely don't understand how Ring Racer's handling model works, because literally all of what you said about FZero applies to Ring Racers. The only "minigame" in Ring Racers is the need to manually stop the item roulette.

>>729610760
I'd personally categorize a "refinement" as a tweaking of an already existing mechanic, rather than introducing something entirely new. Most of 2.4 I'd call "additions". I'm not saying additions are always bad, but I think 2.4 was more misses than hits.
Amps add even more constant boosting into a game that already has you boosting way too much for way too little reason to begin with.
Item snatching is counter-intuitive to how you'd expect trap items to work. If you place it in a disadvantageous spot, you'd expect to then have to deal with it yourself next lap if no one hits it. But instead you just get to drive through it and replace it. I genuinely don't understand this.
Ring Bail is basically a beginner's trap that actually makes you waste more time in a lot of scenarios.
1v1s were already unbalanced, so I appreciate them trying to fix it with duel mode, but it tends to just turn every single race into a 15 minute long stalemate.

The only addition I really consider an objective upgrade is the EXP system, especially in GP mode.

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>>729595109
>the AI rubberbands to shit in singleplayer which makes new players ragequit and stop playing
>the long tutorial and high skill floor make it bad for playing with friends since it's not a "pick up and play" game like other kart racers
>online is full of the most terminally-unemployed sweaty tryhards imaginable so you'll lose every race (and probably ragequit) if you're not similarly unemployed

>>729612486
Amps work because they reward active item play, giving you controlled speed as a reward for playing interaction. Item snatching plays into this by encouraging you to be more active with items since you no longer have to be as paranoid about beaning yourself with them (outside of the AoE from the bombs)
>Ring Bail is basically a beginner's trap that actually makes you waste more time in a lot of scenarios.
It's a niche tool by design, but essentially acts as a "Let me use my Amps now" button, as opposed to having to wait for your rings to burn to 0 through holding the item button. Amps give brief invincibility (more amps = more invincibility) so you can use them to offset the risk of Ring Bail.
>1v1s were already unbalanced, so I appreciate them trying to fix it with duel mode, but it tends to just turn every single race into a 15 minute long stalemate.
Personally, I VASTLY prefer that kind of Stalemate. That kind of tense, long-term back-and-forth is super satisfying, especially as long-term duels result in the track getting more and more littered with trap items. It's the kind of thing that only really happens when the skill gap is small enough that it really does come down to in-the-moment choices. Shit's fun.

Glad we can agree on EXP being based as hell, though.

>>729595109
>download and open game
>immediately notice input lag that wasn't in srb2kart
>it's intentional
>close and delete

>>729614608
It's intentional because D2 is the average for netplay and is what the game is balanced around. You can turn it off in the settings if you'd rather play singleplayer on D0.

>>729595109
it's one of my favorite games ever and i've been playing it regularly since launch. shame about the developers being some of the most stuck-up snobs i've ever had to chat with online.

>>729615060
The omly dev I've seen be a snob is VelocitOni, and I can't even blame the guy given how much of a nightmare it must be to moderate a community for a Sonic fangame with as many retarded kids as RR/SRB2/SRB2 does.

srb2k is nearly perfect. I just wanted that with cpu opponents instead of this wannabe 3d platformer but you're in a kart

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>>729615912
>wannabe 3D platformer but you're in a kart
at this point i'm convinced none of the people bitching about ring racers have actually even played it because what the fuck do you even mean by this

>>729616160
I played through the nearly hour long tutorial and was done after that. The devs obviously wanted to make a platformer instead of a racing game.

>>729616712
Back in the day you would've been permabanned for bragging about getting filtered by a fucking tutorial

I prefer the easy to pick up hard to master philosophy and this game literally started advertising itself as not that a short time after 2.0 released.
Admittedly I haven't played 2.4 because of the bad first impression of 2.0 but the only thing I liked in RR was the change to sliptide compared to SRB2K's.

>>729610265
Isn't Kart developed by an entirely different team?

>>729616841
>I prefer the easy to pick up hard to master philosophy
Honestly, I think this game perfectly fits under that. All the ways in which it's "hard to pick up" are just ways that trip up people used to "standard" racing games, and the tutorial is a (misguided) attempt to mitigate that. Any time I've gotten someone largely unfamiliar with racing games to play DRRR it's been easy to pick up, it's mostly only people trying to play it like MK/SRB2K wio get thrown off.

>>729616712

Looking forward to Blankart, then? I tried a gp with the indev build a week ago and the bots are... okay. Managed to shield an spb and a different bot threw another one a second later, but forgot to turn on replays beforehand.

>>729610618
kart racing is a casualfag genre

>>729617881
It doesn't have to be, as evidenced by this game.

>>729617098
>are just ways that trip up people used to "standard" racing games
Then that goes against the implication in >>729605504 that people who play a lot of racing games will get into this one more easily than the less experienced.

>>729616945
In a sense, yes, but at this point both teams are made up of a lot of the same people. A lot of SRB2's older developers either got forced out or left after some secret club shit went down within the dev team and resulted in a handful of KartKrew members taking over.

>>729617881
there are hardcore autismo kart racers like CTR or Kartrider
but those games have maybe one mechanic with an enormous skill ceiling and that makes them fun to pick up and play

>>729618173
What they mean by "fanatics" is "people who like a ton of difference racing games". The main filter for DRRR is people who think Kart Racers should be purely casual Mario Kart clones trying to play it like Mario Kart. If you're a racing "fanatic", presumably you'd be more open to unusual mechanics in the same way someone unfamiliar with the genre would be. The devs also obviously have the 'tism, that phrasing isn"t clear for the same reason, and that line on the website was mostly added just to try and get people who got filtered to stop spamming angry rantposts on the official server.

>>729618235
>A lot of SRB2's older developers either got forced out or left after some secret club shit went down within the dev team
That's not what happened at all. Like two guys left because one got outed as a nonce and the other was vehemently defending the guy who got outed as a nonce, and that all happened like six years ago. The KKD have largely kept to themselves and the only bleedover between SRB2's team and DRRR has been a couple of the pixel artists and a couple of the engine programmers occasionally helping out with the main game.

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>>729618235
>A lot of SRB2's older developers either got forced out or left after some secret club shit went down within the dev team

>>729618235
I hardly see removing right wing nazis from your dev team as a problem

>>729619174
>>729618915
>>729618235
least obvious samefag

>>729595109
Stop shilling this shit

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>>729619239
Why am I slumped with them? I always hate when the original members are kicked out

>>729619427
No original members were "kicked out" beyond that one dickhead who got himself kicked out by constantly being an antagonistic powertripping shithead (and didn't really contribute to the game beyond being an ideasguy, anyway) Every other original member who no longer works on the game just stopped working on it because they didn't want to any more, and KKD has basically nothing to do with the shit that went down with the main game's team.

Why do you people know so much random useless drama about fangames

>>729619675
There's a handful of guys on this site with an autistic vendetta against the devs of this game who deliberately derail any threads about it into retarded dramafaggotry

>>729604018
I can't tell if I'm looking at a robot with an ass or boxing gloves

>>729619930
tbqh after reading this thread i'm more inclined to believe that this is a shill thread with one dedicated shit-stirrer running defense for their poorly-designed game. that's okay though, no one's forcing any of us to play it.

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>>729620136
It's this guy from Chaotix

Has there been a change to how mods are grabbed from servers for SRB2Kart? I was hoping to self host the kartinvidya modlist for friends/myself but I remember the files are only temporary and I needed to connect to the server everytime I load up the game.

>>729618580
Racing games don't need that many "unusual" mechanics to be interesting.

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I tried playing this game last year. overall okay-ish, but I gotta say, those special stages are total horseshit

>>729620459
Mods downloaded from a server in DRRR are saved in a "downloads" folder in the "mods" folder, if that's what you're asking.
>>729620474
I don't really think any of DRRR's mechanics are "unusual" in a bad way, personally. Most of them either make intuitive sense, make sense in the context of what's around them, or are cool enough to be fine even if they're weird.

>>729620603
>Mods downloaded from a server in DRRR are saved in a "downloads" folder in the "mods" folder, if that's what you're asking.
Do they stay there after the game closes or am I supposed to copy them out of there? I was actually asking about the SBR2K Neptune /vm/ server

>>729620549
They actually made special stages easier in 2.4 since the whole "Sonic Boom"/Tripwire Passing speed is variable instead of being hard locked to 200%, so it's pretty easy to burn rings and slam into the UFO Catcher for free damage
The ending of Rooftops is still fucking dumb but after seeing what Diggle did for his mappack I can't bring myself to get mad at any of the vanilla special stages any more
>>729620738
In DRRR they stay, I'm not sure about SRB2K since I don't really play it and, admittedly, misunderstood the question since I thought you were asking if DRRR changed how it worked.

>>729620147
every time this thread appears it's just someone saying "nah not really" or "you haven't played it" to most criticisms and never hosting a server to actually help introduce newbies

>>729621016
I don't have the ability to host a server right now (visiting family for new years and phoneposting) but I'd be happy to answer questions you have about the game if you don't understand it.

>>729620459

The mods should stay in the download folder, but they won't be loaded when you restart the game. Connecting back to the server reloads them in the order that server has them in, and you can make a config file to run in the console that does the same thing.

>>729620781
The special stage that made me give up was the one where the ufo hovers over a long stretch of water and you're high up on the sides, I don't know how the fuck they expect anyone to beat that

>>729621235
That's Venice, right? That one also got easier in 2.4, actually. In 2.0-2.3 you had to wait until you were skimming across the water or your items would just fall in and you wouldn't be able to hit the UFO, now as long as you're ABLE to water skim, so are your items, so the timing is a lot easier.
The trick to it is to just go for the Orbis (the spikeball green shell equivalents) and just hit it as you switch between the two side paths. There's probably a faster way to kill it using the bananas you get get (those do like 1/3rd of the UFO's health if you throw them) but I'm not good enough to hit it like that.

>>729621205
the point is these fangames live or die based on individual effort
the /vm/ kart community is where it is after several years of /v/eekend threads and went through 2 or 3 dedicated server hosts in that time
if RR "mogs srb2kart" and you want to play it with people here, then get to it instead of asking why and having an answer for everyone who responds

>>729621235
That one's so cool but also bullshit.

>>729621824
I'm not the guy who made the thread and if I had I personally wouldn't have used the phrase "mogs SEB2Kart" because I don't think the two games are comparable at all beyond the obvious lineage of DRRR having originally started as SRB2K 2.0 before branching into its own game. I have an answer for people who respond because I don't see threads about this game often, it's my favorite game of the last decade, and I enjoy talking about it and thinking about it while I play.

>>729622021
if that's the case then I suppose these threads are all you'll get out of the game here

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>>729622231
When your favorite games are niche as fuck and nobody talks about them, you learn not to complain when a bait thread uses them, because there's at least a smidgen of a chance that you can get some good discussion out of even the shittiest bait thread.

2.4's playground is a massive step in the right direction that sadly happened all too late, not just regarding the tutorial (in fact i don't think it's a particularly great one at that), but how unlockables like the Mystic Melodies should have been designed, instead of the excessively cryptic mess most of them are.

Simple; no miku.

>>729622773
There are like 6 Miku mods.

The original game has more maps and less fucking retarded mechanics. The ring mechanic is genuinely terrible and I will die on this hill.

>>729622665
The playground is pretty great, yeah. I understand why they didn't overhaul the tutorial since the 2.4 crew was sort of a skeleton team apparently, but I've always thought that the idea turorial for Ring Racers would be more akin to a hub area with a bunch of little secrets that you could explore to find tutorialized challenges for unlockables.
I like the Mystic Melody shrines, but they really should have put Lost Colony in an earlier cup so you could look for them sooner, and maybe locked the Trick Spring out of Match Race since it definitely breaks a lot of the intended ways to get the unlockables.

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What are your guys favorite SRB2kart tracks/packs? I want to host this game for my friends. Is there an upper limit on how many tracks you can have on a server?

>>729622773
Not having a basegame Miku caused there to be like 4-5 mod Mikus that are all great in their own ways so I think it's an acceptable sacrifice

>>729622773
>no miku, doomguy, e102, or e123
>but here's some garbage persona characters!
I can't blame them for favoritism, anyone would do it. It's just that their choices are so gay

>>729622924
There's no upper limit, no.

>>729623191
There's only one Persona character, and she's from the last good one.
They've also said they're going to add Gamma at some point, probably in the same update that one DOOM-themed map they showed on Doomboards is getting added in.

>>729595109
>fangame sequels
You’re out of your fucking MIND
Are you SERIOUS?
Play fucking Crossworlds, why the fuck are you bothering with fangame shit past the age of 13? Are you fucking kidding me?

>>729623503
Both SRB2K and Ring Racers are a million times more fun that Crossworlds

>>729623503
Here's a (You)

>>729622924
you can have as many maps as your host's machine can handle as long as their map IDs don't conflict
I like a lot of community tracks but off the top of my head at least find the packs with Blizzard Peaks, Mushroom Hill Zone, Mantalith Temple, Evaluation Summit, Music Plant, and Shuffle Square

>>729623191
I don't know what's taking them so long to just put in Vector, and both Gamma/Omega in the game. I expected all 3 in the update and instead I got the Dynamite Headdy bad guy, which isn't even among the worst the game has in terms of character picks, but the priorities are way too wack.
Sort of tied to it and what the Anon above said above about Lost Colony, but character unlocks are also messed up. A lot of the core Sonic characters are unexpectedly really late unlocks granted you're going in normal Cup order. Cream, Blaze, Shadow, and maybe more i'm forgetting are just weirdly late. You can always use a Chao Key and know where they are, or use the cheat code, but still. It feels borderline petty.

>>729623653
>I don't know what's taking them so long to just put in Vector, and both Gamma/Omega in the game.
The artists are kind of exhausted after the immense negative reception the intial launch got and they're all autists with niche tastes working on a game that provides absolutely zero monetary compensation.
Like, I wish Vector, too, but getting annoyed/mad about stuff like not being included in this sort of project is just kind of silly. Especially when that one modded Vector with the animated signpost is 100x better than whatever Chengi/VelocitOni would draw if we're being honest here, those guys can't even be bothered to give Sonic unique damage sprites after all this time

>>729623191
Atlus is owned by Sega

>>729595109
When the mechanics click, it's great game, I love how it feels when it works, but a lot of the courses in this game are complete mess, and not in the fun "Let's go to a super large stage in smash" party game way, but a frustrating way with obtuse track design that's confusing to navigate without memorization.
In that sense, this reliance of route memorization and tight execution makes it true to design of Sonic platformers which is cool, but makes for a piss poor party game by burning casual and new players.

>>729623943
>those guys can't even be bothered to give Sonic unique damage sprites after all this time
I guess I had too much faith thinking that they would've fixed that in 2.4. I thought the sprites already existed.

>>729625002
I'm glad they got rid of those two worst tracks (Dead Line and Mega Aqua Lake) in 2.4. Most of them feel fine to me, but fucking hell those two were bad.
I think a lot of the other tracks get easier to sightread once you learn to watch for those big floating arrow things.

>>729625170
>that one attempted dead line remake on the MB that still sucks ass