Lol, it took me like half an hour to beat him and I'm a pretty average player, Ansbach wasn't even at half health by the end of the fight and my mimic only died because Miquella charmed him. Barricade Shield+Golden Vow+Golden Braid Talisman+Ansbach turn him into a breeze, I even feel bad for having such an easy time with a boss everyone complains about, I'm thinking of creating a new char and a new build and play the entire game again without summons now.
The souls audience is full of redditors and trannys who think they're good at games for playing "le epic difficult game" you're in the minority but still a tranny for playing regardless.
>>729600745I agree that the fanbase is trash, but the game is fucking great, definitely top 5 games I've ever played.
>>729599825Did you fight pre-nerf 1.0 Consort Radahn?
>>729599825You fought him after the Nerf lmao, didn't even fight the same boss and you never willBut no there's no issue. He's just a good boss. This place defends using mimic lmao. I found more satisfaction beating consort rafahn than I did getting my doctorate
>>729599825Is there a second radahn? kek wtf did they really just copy paste for the dlc? pre nerf radahn was a fucking nightmare. I first or second tried every boss except him, which took me 30+ attempts. he is piss easy after the nerf
>>729601474Have you been living under a rock dude? He's the final boss of the DLC.
>>729601318>>729601402How is it my fucking fault that I played the game after the nerf? Go complain to FromSoft, not me.
>>729601474DLC Radahn is not copypaste since he's not a rotten, bloated giant and can walk normally, but his attacks are very inspired by the swings he does in the base game and he even does the comet thing. The big difference is that he gets a femboy cape and holy lasers in his second phase.
>>729601161Nooo!!! You're supposed to confirm that it's trash and then proceed to show Zelda: Breath of the Wild gameplay as a way to dunk on all the trannies that played Elden Ring.
>>729601532I didn't care and didn't play. final boss of the dlc being a copy paste is a fucking great indicator of elden rings problem. 10 good areas surrounded by chalice dungeons and the same boss you've already fought 4 times
>>729601593I'm not complaining, but you need to realize that the outrage over this boss was over the 1.0 version, not the pre-chewed, baby version you fought.
>>729599825>ansbach>mimicyou did not beat the consort
>>729601612By copy paste i meant its radahn again. the final boss is just fucking radahn again. new moves doesnt change it
>>729599825Maybe he was easy for you because you fought him with a fucking summon!?
>>729601685What did they nerf exactly? He seemed pretty fucking aggressive already.
>>729601668I also thought that at first but the DLC is fucking great and fixes a lot of the problems the base game has, the map design is much better as well.
>>729599825I had 50 deaths to Consort Radahn, and 500 deaths to Malenia.
>>729602015Same, I had to change my entire build just for Malenia.
>>729602062I fought her with Grafted Blade, and after my 500th death I changed to knight's greatsword and she went down on a 3rd try after that. Fighting Malenia with a slow and short weapon is fucking brutal man.
>>729601924His hit boxes were totally scuffed in the bad way. as in, he could hit you from way further than the actual model of his attacks. It was pretty egregious. after fixing his hitboxes, they accidentally nerfed his damage, which was eventually fixed. this led to a lot of people thinking he was actually doing way more damage by accident in v1.0. the hitboxes were genuinely fucked though. he killed me about 5 times hitting no where near me. without summons and very op skills it was miserable. funnily enough, everyone was abusing the busted bleed mechanic in v1.0. radahn completely filtered all of them because you couldn't even risk getting close
Anyone else is disappointed you don’t even get a trophy for beating the DLC bosses?
>>729599825I like his themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4e-ru6U00
>>729601924His cross slash move was way faster and you couldn’t just roll it, you had to move left the entire fight so when it came out, you could roll left and dodge it by not being in the area of it. Also all the light particles were way brighter and he did a bit more damage. It wasn’t as big of a nerf as the one Starscourge got (which yes is mostly reverted now but his hitboxes are still far more refined than at launch) but it was still noticeable if you played both. Combine that with the fact that many players were underscadu’d.
>>729599825They significantly nerfed him post launch.You couldn't even see what was going on most of the time during the second phase before the first patch hit.
>>729599825I thought this was a picture of Knack from the catalog. Just wanted to share.
>>729602869Lmaoo someone make a Knack Radahn pls
>>729601593>claim everyone complains about a boss>easily beat it>boast about it instead of making a basic google search on why was he considered hard>"uuu yikes are you heckin' downvoting me?"take the L and move on
>>729601612>his attacks are very inspired by the swings he does in the base gameHis attacks are also very inspired by pontiff and vengarl lmao
>>729599825/v/ is really bad at video games. There was a ton of crying about all kinds of bosses both on ER's release and the DLC
>>729603350Proof that they reused Pontiff's moveset?
>>729601474>he is piss easy after the nerf>>729601685>the pre-chewed, baby version you fought.I disagree, he's still hard. It took me like 8 hours to beat him in my RL1 run.
>>729601859>>729601734Ansbach makes the fight harder.
>>729603513having eyes
>>729599825I didn't playing solo. I did playing Co-op with friends.That fight is just designed to filter out social play for the sake of an endgame challenge taken way too far to the extremes. Even Miyazaki mention last year they pushed the difficulty to the limits with how far they could push it.
>>729603602Holy shit, how can you beat the game at level 1? One hit and you're dead and you probably do no fucking damage at all. Must have took 100 hits and some 20 minutes at least to defeat him.
>>729603513https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ3EpD7Dq3o
>>729603768Source?
>>729603768Some people say he's harder on coop because he has way more health.
>>729602869You are deranged and need professional medical help.
>>729603815>how can you beat the game at level 1?pic related, there are a lot more stuff to use but these are some of the main tools.>One hit and you're deadRitual shield talisman>do no fucking damage at alllollmao evenPS: The Serpent-Hunter spear isn't a gimmick weapon only, that thing wrecks.
>>729603963I don't know the math in ER, but back in DS3 they pushed the boss health to 175% at maximum player count added to any co-op boss battle to make it more challenging and longer for players.
>>729599825is this the golden knight on horseback near the start? i've been stuck on this shit whore boss for 4 hours
>>729599825Wtf the fight gets harder if you summon Ansbach, I could never get Ansbach to live past the first couple minutes so I gave up on him.OP is a liar.
>>729605341Not OP but I wanted to beat PCR with Ansbach because it would feel satisfying storywise. Thiollier too.
>>729605573>I wanted to beat PCR with Ansbach because it would feel satisfying storywise.Same, Ansbach is really cool too but I simply couldn't babysit him. This was back in 1.0 though. I'm in NG+ now, I wonder if I can pull it off this time.
>>729605341No, I'm not, at first that was also happening to me, I got him to half health and then died, but after my 7th try or so it was fairly easy, maybe because of the equipment I used plus mimic, me and Ansbach aggroing him at the beginning while taking little damage.
>>729601318Unless you had a review copy niether did you.He got nerfed twice. Pre-release version was even worse.
>>729599825Nice bait post. But yeah I don't like that Promised Consort Radahn was nerfed so much in the update.
>>729605819It took you more than 7 tries and you call the fight easy?
>>729602015Malenia took me like 3-4 hours. Consort Radahn took me 3 to 4 days
>>729599825yeah post-nerf he's really easy
I don't get the fuss around Consort Radahn either, he only took me 32 tries. Just use the fingerprint shield and barricade and you'll breeze through him in a couple of days.
>>729606217If you didn't change to the fingerprint shield it would have taken you 10 times as long to beat him. That's why people complain about him, they stuck to their build and fought him normally. Fighting Pre-nerf PCR with just a weapon and rolling (fundamental Souls-like gameplay) is really fucking hard.
>>729606049I mean, some youtuber I watch said he took 5 hours to beat him…
>>729599825>ego gamingFailed normalniggerkill yourself
>>729606479Its literally because you fought the version of him that was nerfed into the ground. That's why you found it easy and others didn't. How is that a hard concept to grasp?Go download the mod that reverts the nerf and fight him without a summon. Then comeback and tell us it was easy.
>>729601924You needed a near frame perfect roll on one of his attacks, can't remember which. It was absurd.
>>729605334Yeah, his third phase he contacts femboy God and gives him a piggy back ride on the horse for more stats
Probably because you played on baby mode with the summons and cheese build. Pre-Nerf Consort Dan by yourself could be overwhelming with his seemingly endless combos and clone/teleporting shenanigans.
>>729599825i cant even beat him now even overleveled + mimic lmao i had to respec to the stupid thorns spell to beat him when the DLC came outim really bad at these games
Nice shitpost. Current /v/'s too stupid to catch on.
>>729608447
>>729599825If I've learned one thing from the Souls community, it's that somehow people bang their heads against the wall with the most dogshit builds imagineable, and then get mad when they are forced to engage with a games core mechanics. Look at fucking jumping in Elden ring, you know how many moves you can just skip by jumping, and immediately punishing with an R2? Yeah people hate that and refuse to do it. You get guys with all int stats using a bleed rapier who somehow got to promised consort
>>729601924>fucking aggressive alreadyHe was significantly more aggressive before the nerfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSzApXWbgio
>>729599825Ye he's that hard I had to use a shield against him having managed the whole game without. 1.0
>>729599825Big whoop. He's one of the few major bosses in the game that has an "I win" button against him.
>>729609971That video doesn't do justice to how impossibly hard that cross-slash was to dodge before the nerf. Many people at the time, (including no hit and speed runners) actually just assumed it was impossible and resorted to using unique dodge items or ash of wars.
>>729606217Shield tanking is really good against Radahn because he has no defensive measures. He's 100% pure aggression that you can grind out levels to brute force past. But most other builds are not as good against him at all. If you played someone that nimbly dodged everything, he's miserable because that 100% pure aggression means that you need to learn to almost no-hit the boss to win. Because one fuck up kills your rhythm and suddenly you're running away getting your ass raped the entire time. If you cut Radahn's attacking in half, but gave him a shield, he'd be way easier for rollypollies, but much harder for shield pokers.
>>729599825No but I did get stuck on soldier of godrick
>>729613449Lmaooooooooooo you trash nigga
>>729599825>Ansbach>used a summonYou didn't beat the game
>>729599825Yes. I don't think he's a "bad" boss, he's just incredibly inflexible for a FromSoft boss and had one move that was blatantly imbalanced (cross slash). When I say inflexible, I mean that he requires you to play in one of three specific ways to win, with little to no room for error, improvisation, or creativity:>facetank him with a greatshield and shieldpoke him to death, ideally with status effects>parry him>dodge every attack in the exact correct way you're supposed to and take your pity punish (it's almost always the absolute minimum)Anyone who's unable to win in the third way gets filtered into trying to beat him by doing the other two, or like Peeve they end up trying to win "on their terms" for dozens of hours. Man, maybe he is a bad boss, lmao.>>729613594Rare instance where summoning actually makes the fight harder, as the summons will rarely survive to phase 2 and then you're left with a Radahn with much more HP during the more dangerous phase of the fight.
>>729599825If you don’t have a build that can take damage it a really hard
>>729602062I beat her with the ice dragon. Holy shit it’s like pure kryptonite for her second form
>>729601593You asked why people complained about radahn's difficulty. Anon explained how the discussion was on release, not later on after it got nerfed. It's not like everyone's experiences, posts, articles, and videos all retroactively disappeared once the boss was patched later on. Your IQ must be room temperature.
>>729614615I got to perfect dodging the first form using thorns, then summon dung eater to by space for deathblight dragon, then a final thorns after dung eater dies.He actually killed me with one of his blasts but the thorns bleed was already on him and he died and the game didn’t care that I also died
>>729602062Malenia is the only boss I truly think is bad in Elden Ring because she was the only one who forced me to truly change my build. I think Elden Ring is designed to accommodate any build because of the breadth of its content, and it was frustrating that Malenia felt like the first boss to violate this principle. Of course, that was just my opinion when I first played the game, and I feel differently now. I think I was one of those people who played through Elden Ring without ever really learning how to play, which is partially my fault and partially the game's fault. I could elaborate on that, but I don't think anyone gives a fuck.However, her incredibly unintuitive-to-dodge super move being locked behind a specific HP threshold IS shit tier design any way you look at it.
>>729614978Beating the shit out of Malenia using my pure caster ARC/FTH build was very cathartic after all the trouble she gave me on my first run with a strength build. Just hit her with the swarm of flies because it's slow-moving so her input-reading dodge doesn't actually dodge it, and nuke her with frost dragon head in the second phase after the flower nukes.
>>729608484>I'm acting retarded so people called me a retard>I'm so smart
>mfw spamming iron flesh perfume and face-tanking estus during all of phase 2 radahn's bullshit while R2ing until he died in elden ring it's cheese or be cheesed
>>729601593You didn't beat the game.
I just downloaded convergence mod and there are so many classes that look fun that I can't decide which one to pick. Any recommendations? Last time I played the base game,I played as a warrior so unless there are some serious changes to melee, I would prefer a spell-casting class.
>>729601740>doesn't pay attention to the story>WTF why is it radahm again Average e33 fag
>>729615224It's the exact same they just fixed his cross-slashThe most "here, stfu shitters" nerd ever
>>729616649>story>Elden RingTell me another joke.
>>729616763Elden Ring has a great story, though it is a shame that Miazaki decided that we had to be the bad guy in the DLC
>>729616750aka the biggest glaring issue
>>729617568there were two actual problems>cross-slash>fps during phase 2And both of those are nothing compared to waterfowl dance which never got fixed
>>729617997with waterfowl the gimmick is all-or-nothing. Malenia is nothing without her bullshit undodgeable dance that forces the player to play in a hyperspecific way to bait the AI into doing the attack from a distance before daring to go in for a R1. They couldn't nerf that because the moment they fix this aspect, the entire challenge falls apart.
>>729605334still stuck on this bastard, must've had at him 100+ times now, got close a few times
>>729618547good luck retard-kun
>>729618423>all-or-nothingI stopped reading there, she's the most reactionary boss in the game. No one beats her without baiting out her 75/50 HP waterfowl or someother cheese to deal with it. This is proof you type about this game more than you have played it.People like you who infest every online interaction base their opinions on talking heads. Because no one bitched about malenia the worst designed garbage in from history gets a pass, but oh no radahn filtered my streamer!! Nerf Pls!!I beat pre-nerf over 10 times with different builds btw.Look, I know not everyone will like "rollslop" but the DLC was the best DLC from ever released.
>>729602469its one of the best boss themes fromsoft has ever done imo
>>729618674i am feeling retarded but the glowy thing points at that guy so what am i missing?
>>729618887just walk around him dude It's trying to teach you that this is different from their old games, you don't have to just fight every boss you see because progression is horizontal and vertical, due to the open world.
>>729618887spoiler, layer one: you are misinterpreting the glowy thing. it's not pointing at him, it's pointing in a general direction. varre tells you to "follow the guidance of grace to castle stormveilspoiler, layer two: >>729618983spoiler, layer three: following the guidance of grace to castle stormveil teaches you the exact same lesson, as the first major boss of the game is deliberately too difficult foe new players, incentivizing them to fuck off and explore the open world, which is how you progress your character most meaningfully
>>729613594It's anti-soul to not summon the NPC companions though. They're in-game characters not some online bonus-aid.
>>729618983>>729619063right, i had to give it one more try and guess what, i have a golden axe that i can't use but thanks, i'll keep this in mind if/when i encounter other shit, i'm going to sleep now... also, side note, is this golden horse asshole a copy pasted gyoubu oniwa? i caught myself trying to use firecrackers which yeah...
>>729618717maybe you should have read the rest of the post
>>729620417Not quite but I wouldn't be surprised if they had ported his moveset over. That guy had a great one
>>729620509It's irrelevant. Everything about that fight is ass, and you complain about consort radahn, a god damn great fight.
>>729616649Radahn peaks in interest as a character in Caelid. He’s a fundamentally midboss tier character. Gravity sorcery is the definition of a side characters power, his biggest narrative beat is his public shameful defeat, he’s covered in armor paying homage to other, better warriors we’ve already killed by the endgame. Reusing him was a terrible choice. >but he tied! Joblania would never have been able to Irrelevant, he’s a frothing retard when we find him, which remains his first and most important impression.
>>729602469I fought radshn probably 200 times and listening to this shit is fucking kino man. I'm so glad I'm not a bitch. Listnr to this song with fucking pride
>>729620417>gyoubu oniwaIt wouldn't surprise me, but I didn't play Sekiro. FromSoft is very good at reusing animation rigs while giving them a fresh coat of paint: meshes, textures, and animations. Most notably animations, because this is what really affects gameplay in their games.
>>729620417I imagine they made the rig for gyobu but his moveset is, from what I can tell, totally new
>>729599825He was pretty difficult and even had a couple of genuinely unfair moves. Shitters cried and From nerfed him to the ground to appease them.
>>729601318Besides the undodgeable frame tap combo, what else got nerfed? That shit was infuriating but not really run ending.
>>729621404He's a little slower, and visual stuff.
>>729602469Base ED OST, besides Radagon's theme, was forgettable as fuck but the DLC and Nightreign are full of bangers. Tho i feel Consort's, now that am hearing it well, the chorus drowns way too much the other instruments.
>>729621404It was dodgeable, just nearly impossible. It was some stupid frame perfect shit like parrying Genichiro's entire floating passage combo in Sekiro.
>>729617332How are we the bad guy in the DLC?
>>729621613Base game had some good (but not great) OST but it's true the ratio of good tracks/total track was one of from's worst, and they definitely should have focused more on ambient soundtrack.
>>729599825it took me hours
>>729622725Why would you use Mohg's rune in PvE
>>729624043it looks cool but i didn't activated it
Recommend me some ashes of war. I normally just stick Carian Sovereignty on my claymore and call it done, but I wanna fuck around with some more now.
>>729601318of coursh!
>>729599825Nah I'm waiting for the dlc to be on a discount for 10 bucks. You're a nigger faggot if you bought it for 40 bucks and the problem with current gaming
>>729605956Raw post-nerfer copium vein tapped >B-B-BUT TH-THERE WAS ANOTHER NERF SO (YOU) DIDN’T B-B-BEAT HIM AS INTENDED EITHER!
I beat my cockIt was pretty easy
>>729599825Nothing in SOTE is hard because they give you the Sekiro Tear which trivializes every single boss in the game more than Bloodhound Step or Mimic Tear ever did. Fitting that the mechanic from the easiest Souls game would break the game.
>Beat pre-nerf malenia>But didn't beat pre-buff RykardUh oh looks like you didn't beat the game.
>>729599825Oh, I thought I lost this thread and stuck it in the other one. You used two summons to beat a boss that is fundamentally not what you thought it was. You're fake and gay. Uninstall life.
>>729599825Before, it was difficult because we didn't want to get close and get caught by Miquella, because then he would kiss us, turning us gay and making us the laughing stock of everyone. But now it seems that the average player doesn't care about that anymore.
>>729629216I got grabbed and Alt-F4'd before I got kissed. Fucking homosexuality in my goddamn male hobby. Why can't they just keep prolapsing each other and growing designer infections in their bodies, and leave games alone
>>729622725>str/dex buildThere's your problem, that's one of the worst builds in the game.
>>729601593Just download the pre-nerf mod
>>729628419Unlike Sekiro, Elden Ring has no visual cue for when to parry, so that tool is essentially useless to average players who don’t wanna spend hundreds of hours mastering a singleplayer game.
>>729630112Nah, if we're gonna play that game then why don’t you just download a mod that makes Radahn even harder, I'm sure there are a ton of them. Good design should not be measured by how difficult the fight is, pre-nerf Radahn, from what people wrote here, had hitbox issues that were unintended by the developers, anyone who thinks that’s a better version of the boss is just a sweaty tryhard seeking validation by being good at videogames.
>>729630119Yah, but just like Sekiro on NG, you can just feather tap block and deflect everything with no need to time it.
>>729601318i-I didn't beat the game...
>>729602223grafted blade kinda counters her thoughhttps://youtu.be/yDMJ08O7iWI
wilds ui lol
>op fights radahn post nerf and says he was easyi bet he summoned too. The gatekeepers were doing gods work before souls games went mainstream but after the fact, the battle was lost. For a brief window of time the souls community was golden though.
>>729628419Perfect Guarding is fun though...
>>729632202>For a brief window of time the souls community was goldenAfter DaS1 was released but before it was ported to PC.
