is this real??
I don't know about difficulty, but Yu-Gi-Oh! is the best card game.
>>729619418nah mtg is harder and yu gi oh aint shit
>>729619503poker is better
>>729619418Where does hearthstone place? you can pick the meta.
>>729619418Where does Vanguard stand?
>>729619418Card games are dead pointless because anyone can just print out exact replicas at home and will show up at card shops and local games acting like it’s not a problem so any money you spend on the hobby is pointless
>>729619418digimon has gotten more convoluted over the past year or so, it should be 4 star difficult.
magic has fallen
>>729619418Someone once told me modern Yu-Gi-Oh is a game designed by lawyers and played by neanderthals and I think that's the most accurate way to describe the current state of the game.
*terrifies the brainlets*
>>729619795>gets max c>losespeak game play
>>729619418YGO's basic rules are not complicated but the actual playing of the game is the most complicated of any card game.
>>729619590below pokemon
>>729619503pre 5Ds it wasit's trash now
For me, it's Pax Porfiriana, the best card game.
>>729619867doesn't exist in the non-clown format
>>729619669>people actually wanting to be able to play the game without spending hundreds of dollars per deck is badexplain how that affects you
>>729620238>gets fuwalos>still loses
yeah I'll just play balatro or slay the spire and not waste $800 / year to unlock cards
>>729619418yugioh is easy as fuck and if you disagree you are honestly a brainleti am a professional on this topic because i've been playing yugioh for over a decade
>>729620191Why is there a TCG about the Mexican Revolution?
>>729620238>tcg player>calling any other format clownlollmao
>>729619418Pokemon has 5 star difficulty because scalpers gonna scalp. I doubt the other card games gets scalped at the same rate as pokemon.
>>729620386Tear format was not easy. Definitely the most mentally exhausting game ive ever played
>>729619418I genuinely have no idea how to play Magic
>>729619418They should all be zero stars
>>729619503Mahjong is better
True TCGkino coming through
>>729619418Yu-gi-oh is difficult because of acquired knowledge.If you don't know what a deck or archetype does, unless you yourself are playing a deck with lots of "no, u don't" cards you're fucked.
>>729619418Where's Artifact?
>>729620584i think you tap land and then equip sonic shoes to summon cloud strife in avatar state, yip yip
>>729620443It's one of the most affordable card games to actually make a working deck out of.
TCGs are memoslop
>>729619418Fuck this chart, rate the games by smelliest players.
>>729619418>opponent starts lengthy special summoning chain>interrupt it midway>they disconnect
>>729620997I’m so glad I got the hypersensitive to odors autism and not the fear of showers autism. I still keep deodorant sticks in my car and work locker in case I forget my morning swipe.
I doubt pokemons that easy considering how nobody i knew growing up other than me even fucking knew how to play it.
>>729619503Modern YGO is absolute shit, you either win the coinflip or you'll be forced to watch your opponent play solo for 20 minutes and win turn 1 and it's even worse irl because people just go>coinflip>yeah I won check my hand>yeah you won let's go againat this point nobody's fucking playing the shit game, everyone's just masturbating to <2mm little girl feet artwork
>>729620584it's really easy on the computer, idk how nerds keep track of all the triggers irl
I cant believe TCGs are still a thing, they should had died alongside pogs and slinkies 30 years ago
>>729621316The real rules are more difficult than the games but simple enough that preteens can learn if they focus. Kids probably learn more complicated systems in science class.
>>729619590xDhttps://patashu.github.io/Combo-Priest-Simulator/just a little exercise, try to kill the druid a couple times (you can keep the default baby settings) and realize Hearthstone is so much harder than every other card game it's not even a contest
>>729620250>I pay to have people boost my characters as pay to have all the end game loot day 1 and that’s a good thing!
>>729619418YGO is hard to its detriment but the complexity gives it the ability to have plays that none of the others could dream of and are fun to do. I haven't properly played it in a LONG time but I put together some Genesys decks in a fan-made simulator and I enjoy it. When people call it the MvC of card games they're absolutely correct, at least since the mid-late 10s.
>>729619669Any example of this actually happening?
>>729619503Yugioh is absolute dogshit that only stays around because it's old. The entire point of modern Yugioh is to set up a board so oppressive that your opponent is unable to play the game.
>>729621738mtg fags seethe at proxies
>>729620584It's honestly not bad, play land, tap land, play a card for the cost it shows in top right, it can't do anything the turn it comes in unless it has haste or another thing affects it. It only gets really complicated when you're doing combos, and people will call you gay and lame for combo decks anyway so just do creatures and spells and it's easy pz. Commander is actually really fun with people that aren't super autistic
ENTER VALVELUDO
>>729620664is this an exodia instant win in WWF TCG?
>>729621903>commanderCube draft is the way to go now but don't let the fags at Wizards know.
>>729620696Actually you'd need Cloud first to summon the shoes due to his text allowing you to get an equipment card from your deck and attach it to him for free, having the shoes out on the field already is a waste
yugioh is genuinely the only game on that list where games are often won by skill instead of just luck even in the top levelin the sense that, it's so fucking complicated that people regularly throw won games with "retarded" misplays which is why everyone calls each other shitters
>>729619418Dragon Ball Z tops them all
>>729620584you tap the turkey sandwich and then read a dictionary of keywords
>>729622067That's not skill, anon. The truest skill in playing a tcg is not in the constructed format, it's in a draft and YGO is fucking awful for drafting.
>>729622073which one, they killed and revived it like 3 times
>>729619418When Lorcana drops the KH set I'm buying in bigly
>>729619795>ye old spreadshetanyway, queen to contract contract to kepler kepler to gate until you get tired of it
>>729622157is it not skill to play as efficiently and with as little mistakes as possible?would a game not be considered hard if even the best players can't achieve peak efficiency and still make mistakes even in world championships?>draft it's always a meme format for retarded casual mouthbreathers that people bring up as the peak of skill
>>729622067YGO must be won by skill IRL. Meanwhile in the anime every duel is won because of asspulls and plot armor.
>>729622234No, it's because you're basically just using a deck that has a combo built into it, so you already have a gameplan from the get go. You're not exercising your deckbuilding knowledge in real-time then applying it into a game. YGO is fucking awful for this because their sets are built to be synergistic with other cards unlike something like Magic where it's more generic and less archetypal. To be able to not only outdraft but also outplay your opponent is the highest skill for a TCG.
>>729622438meant for >>729622304
>>729621973I've been meaning to try cube draft, I just really like Commander because it lets me play my Magicfu in most of my decks
>>729619669It's a hobby not a fucking stock market, financenigger. The point is to waste money so you have fun.
>>729622438>just using a deck that has a combo built into it, so you already have a gameplan from the get gobasically you unironically believe that planning and strategy isn't skill, okay, the kind of retarded babble i expected
>>729621738Literally walk into any local card shops game nights?
>>729621650>you pay to have the same product that other people download off the internet and have for freethis argument sounds familiar
>>729621597I think you wanted to reply to the guy that wrote below pokemonthis was a pretty fun combo, I think stuff like patron warrior and shudderwock shaman were much harder than this.
>>729622540Then you won’t mind playing with my proxy deck of all the most expensive and powerful cards right? (;
>>729622583Oh you paid for the game? Haha I pirated it and got all the end game loot and unlocks immediately also my chapter is max leveled already, teehee.
>>729619418YGO is very complicated but not deep, not having an actual resource system means the game is inherantly restricted in it's design space. A simple "draw 2" effect breaks the whole fucking game.MtG is deep and complex but the randomness of land screw/flood is obnoxious and WotC keeps making the game worse in recent years
>>729622738Force of Will (the TCG) had a great resource system, but the only people who played it in my area were intolerable incels and they never made an online client for it.
>>729622554It isn't a skill if you're not doing it in real-time competing with others in the planning and building stage, yes. It's also the only way to play the least meta-influenced deck, compositions, strategy and play between players.
>that 1 guy in the playgroup with the most money so he buys the most expensive cards so he can beat everyone all the timeI seriously hope none of you are him.
>>729622649Sure, I don't mind playing your random mishmash of the most expensive cards with zero synergy
>>729619418One Piece TCG is fun, I can play a deck full of Choppers as Chopper and it's actually viable :)
>>729622574Never had this happen in mine
>>729622649Why would I? Nigger.
>>729621949Those are kind of weak cards believe it or not lol, aside from that Prematch card that gives you a hand size of +1
>>729623167It's embarrassing to do unless you're a giga-autist.
>>729622649>He thinks expensive card = powerful and proxies are evilWhy come into the thread and talk about shit you clearly have no fucking clue about?
>>729623142>>729623167>>729623436Sorry while we were having this conversation I made sure to Google the most powerful deck possible and print it all out.Hope you brought your A game (;
>>729623057Closest I came was being the first in our group to buy a planeswalker because I just thought Gideon was a really cool character
>>729619540as someone who played both, agreed. never got why everyone thinks yugioh is hard
>>729622649If you want a serious game to improve your skills, it shouldn't be a problem to allow your opponent to have access to any legal card they want
>>729623617>Misplays because he has no idea what to do>Loses>Still has a fun time because his cards are good and he can see how they work together, will win the next gamebased proxychadfuck investortimmies it's me and my printer every day
>>729623617Okay? Go to any locals and 75% of the players are going to be playing "the most powerful deck possible" both with and without proxies, this isn't the "gotcha!" you think it is
>>729623617Sorry but we're playing by bracket rules, this is a bracket 3 table and a CEDH deck really isn't gonna gel with the matches we're doing here tonight, you can borrow my Inigo Montoya deck and pull up a chair if you wanna though :)
>>729623719It's hard in a way that it demands meta mastery, since the game is literally designed that way, where a card literally is useless unless you have other giga nigger cards that specifically call to it to use as well. What happens is that it's even more awful to watch than MTG tourneys where everything is just a combo-fiesta of tutoring cards into play and out of it. If you like playing TCG that way however, then YGO is your go-to.
>>729623617>Plays that one rogue deck that hard counters the top meta deck but loses to everything elseGG faggot :^]
>>729624138I really wanna make a nigger rogue steal shit deck but I don't want to get stabbed
>>729624298do it
>>729621916The 3 board design should have been killed at the concept phase. It overwhelms the average gamer and doesn't fit on a phone screen.
>>729624686Turn your phone sideways.
>>729624573Honestly probably will start to build one once I see what Gambit's colors and abilities are, gotta have the king of thieves as my Commander
>>729619418What i have been told by yugioh players as a magic and one piece player is that the game itself is not complicated, but modern deckbuilding emphasizes degenerate combo play which can be complicated to pilot. one piece is not even close to mtg or yugioh imoMagic's ruleset is very dense and leads to tons really wild card designs and complicated interactions that I have never seen any other card game be able to match. Someone has even written a 400 page book just on all the different uses for the card Gush
Weiß Schwarzis mine game of choice
>>729619503not enough interaction
Why do card games not do what Clari Obscure intenveted and have quick timed events where you can parry your enemy?
>>729625730They all have that but you get kicked out of the local for doing it
>>729625660Trying to counter a cantrip as a blue player before they start shoveling cards into their hand is the ultimate qte
>>729626126Meant for >>729625730
>>729619418just play eternal card game instead>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs>ex-Magic devs
>"""""difficulty""""">uhhhhhhh we're just gonna ban whatever cards we want from previous sets because LOL BUY MORE
yugioh def isnt the hardest card game
>>729625730Shenmue invented, Wind Waker bastardized it, and it's been hollowly raped by Expedition 33
everyone yugioh player who switches to pokemon is 1. dogshit at pokemon2. extremely unpleasant to play against because they smell and are rude
