>20 years old>still nothing like it save for Mass Effect Why is the space adventure RPG genre so cursed? How difficult would it be for smaller studios to make such games today? I don't care about the graphics, they were good enough back then.
>>729630291>space scares the massesAfaik space themed games coming out next year en masse
>Nothing like it except for [widely beloved trilogy with hundreds of hours of gameplay between them]uh huhYou're also getting Exodus in 2027 which will suck because Drew Karpyshyn is writing it, meaning it will have a great world but a world filled with cardboard cutouts instead of actual characters just like ME1 and KOTOR1, which is why both of those games are eclipsed by their sequels
>>729630291Jade Empire could have been so much better.
>>729630291didn't they just announce the sequel to these
>>729630770It will be shit because it's published by Wizards of the Coast which means it will be full of culture war bullshit
>>729630291Owlcat will save us with the expanse game
>>729630770Drew didn’t write 100% of everything in each game, and there is a huge difference in writing between KOTOR 1 and ME1. Your post is nonsense.
>>729630770>KOTOR 1 eclipsed by sequelkek eclipsed at what, being a broken unfinished mess?
>>729631268It's going to be set in Disney canon so what they actually announced is a gay reimagining.
I miss the tortanic memes
>>7296314052 didn’t eclipse 1. I prefer 2 but idk wtf he’s talking about. Also Mass Effect 2 is more popular than 1 but the story is astronomically worse. I think he’s trolling.
I want another game where a character criticizes all my decisions just like my mother.
>>729631268yeah, it'll be about as popular as starfield
>>729631838Assuming it doesn't get canceled.
>>729630565Yeah but they're all NASApunk slop
/v/ gets more Kreia threads than Bastila threads or "there's something bothering Carth, maybe you should talk to him" threads.Ergo, KotOR 2 is more culturally relevant than 1. Much like how fat British peasant pronouns man gets threads but Starfield does not.
>super 1337 assassin droid that supposedly killed a gorillion jedi and shit>blows ass in combat compared to every other party member, even after getting repaired and upgraded>in both gamesThis is the worst and most disappointing case of ludonarrative dissonance maybe ever.
>>729632217Mission gets more threads than any of those crusty uncs.
>>729632192Star wars zero, starfinfer, the game larian announced and will cancel eventually, some space themed 4x and trpg
>>729632293He's good in combat, what are you on about?
>>729631378>>729631405>>729631691KOTOR 1's companions are dogshit. Mission, Jolee, Zaalbar, Juhani, and T3 range from not-characters to actively-annoying-characters. Canderous and Carth are just decent, Bastila and HK are the only companions that are entertaining and the latter was done better in the sequel anyway. Not to mention what a joke Malak is.ME1's companions, outside of mostly just Ashley and MAYBE Wrex, are Codex entries that pretend to be people. Replaying 1 is an incredibly dry experience.hello I am Tali I explain Quarianshello I am Garrus I explain Turians and C-SEChello I am Kaidan I explain bioticshello I am Liara I explain AsariKOTOR 2's narrative and especially characters viciously mog 1's. I found G0-T0 to be cooler than most everyone from K1 and G0-T0 is barely even alpha content. The character and the soul of the Mass Effect franchise is sourced from ME2, not 1I don't think Drew Karpyshyn is a bad writer, I just think his ability to write interesting characters has pretty restrictive limits and he works better when he has co-writers to shore up that weakness. He has a co-writer for Exodus which is a good sign but said co-writer is some ancient fuck with a body of work I've never read, so no idea if I should be worried.
>>729630291Rogue Trader is better than both of these.
>>729632734Not reading your shitty slopinion.
>>729630770>Exodushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c80LMt_Uxshadnt heard of itlooks like an action rpg, so its not for me
>>729631061I liked it a lot, but I haven’t played it since it released. I’m guessing it has aged poorer than most Bioware games.
>>729632734Who the fuck hates Mission and Big Z or Tali and Garrus? Or Jolee? I'm afraid it's your opinion that's dogshit here.
>>729632525He's outright a much weaker shooter than Carth or Atton. Arguably Mira too.Mission + anyone who can do stuns that let her proc sneak attack make him look like a fucking joke.You might as well just take T3, who is only slightly worse in combat but much better in skills.HK is only objectively outright better than G0-T0 as far as ranged combat goes, but even then he flexes on HK by controling enemy droids, using stealth, and floating over mines.
How viable are blaster builds?
>>729633327In KOTOR 1 they can be okay, but you'll have a rough times in some places on hard. Stims, force buffs, and cheesing enemy pathfinding can always get you through though.In KOTOR 2 they can be extremely OP if you build right. Even more so if you get good loot RNG. Always a fun time.
>>729633461How does loot work in kotor? It's random you say? Loot tables by level?
>>729633870KOTOR 1 loot is mostly static. To the extent that some stuff may be random, it's not enough for me to have noticed it, and certainly nothing to worry about.KOTOR 2 has a healthy mix of static and random loot. The random stuff has biases depending on location and level. There are also some instances of quest rewards being partially random. I'm sure there's a big autistic guide somewhere for it.
>>729632217I still crack up every time there's a kreia beggar argument on here.
>>729630291science fantasy is cool and mass effect is gay
>>729634430There was something about ME2's aesthetic that made it feel much less "geek sci-fi" and cooler than the other ME games. No idea why they abandoned it.
Mission nude mod.
>>729633235not surprised you're gargling these games nuts with reading comprehension that bad
>>729630291>they were good enough back then.I just beat Kotor1 again the other day and while it was still pretty good the ending was really fucking weak when it came to RP. The only choices were very binary between "I am good incarnate" or "I am stupid evil and will kill you for fun"Plus it assumed if you were light side you were automatically on the councils side. There wasn't much room for a good guy that was pissed at the council for mind control and identity death.
>>729632293>>729633282The game is easy enough that it doesn't matter how shit your team is when your MC can blow through all the combat encounters solo. The moment you get area CC you pretty much win the game. At least it's that way in Kotor1. I still need to replay Kotor2 which I just started again yesterday.
>>729633282Atton is a better blaster user only when abusing sneak attack. HK has the same base dexterity + Precise Shot + Weapon Focus access, but he has a d12 hitdice instead of Scoundrel's d6 and wears overpowered droid armour that makes him much harder to kill. He trades sneak attack for durability.
>>729635568The second game is worse where voting for space trump automatically gets you the dark side ending
>>729634076>KOTOR 2 has a healthy mix of static and random lootI think that's the best loot system, at least for most games.
>>729635774Space Trump just wants to make Onderon Great Again, not to sell his people to Space Israel (Toydaria) so he's actually more moral than the real Trump.
>>729636412>>729635774Vaklu is more like space Mussolini really... if Mussolini had the foresight to just get rid of the king instead of entering a weird shared power arrangement that he ultimately got fucked by...Definitely not Trump though.
>>729635774>Side against the Jedi master you're trying to contact in a civil war and kill him>Be surprised this leads to dark sideThe real bullshit one is Vrook on Dantooine because if you don't rescue him from the mercenaries (something he later tells you he didn't want you do to and chastises you for it) you automatically are railroaded into killing him later.
>>729630291So what's with the fascination with Star Wars lately?
>>729637428Probably the FOTOR announcement.
>>729637428>latelyStar Wars threads have been a staple of /v/ for decades. Sometimes we even talk about Star Wars vidya in them.
>>729630291>Rogue Trader is out and getting expanded upon with DLCs>Exodus is in production>The Expanse: Osiris reborn is in production>Dark Heresy is in production>Fate of the Old Republic is in productionThe future of space adventure RPG looks pretty decent.
>does some of the best and most memorable voice acting in any game>never did voice acting for anything else>randomly hangs himself 20 years laterHe really was as Atton as Atton will ever be.
>>729632756This. Unless you just hate turn based/ isometric, it's the best space RPG out there. Still 2 more dlcs coming too.
>>729631405>eclipsed at whatAt being STAR WARS.
>>729640118>AttonDude even as a twelve year old on og xbox I benched this soft ass pussy immediately.
>>729630291Honestly been wondering the same. I feel like that millenial writers are literally unable to write a sci-fi story.
>>729640118>randomly hangs himself 20 years laterwhat?
