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Powerful
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She turned into handrails :(
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>>729637391
why do women hate armrests?
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>>729637391
She voted for that
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>>729637506
She became a steel type
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I love planning benches of the future. They have the right idea giving everyone a seat to rest their arms on. Smart and regenerative.
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Meanwhile my city has ones that are just flat so you can rest on them
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so why did we allow private equity to buy and gatekeep all the homes to turn everyone into permanent renters again?
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>>729638229
I don't know, I just need more money now
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I'm mad because they just removed all the fucking benches here. There's nowhere to sit anymore. Thanks homeless people.
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theres a reason the homeless dont have a single person in the world to turn to
just remember that
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>>729637391
>Adult pokemon trainer sleeps on my bench
>Covered in silicone lubricant because she insists on the latex catsuit
>Put in guardrails so people don't just slide off the bench and now she looks at it weird
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>>729638229
it owns the libs or something
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>>729638229
it kept eggs cheap i think
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>>729638229
Cool it with the anti schematics
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>>729637391
I don't get it
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>>729638229
because the only way to prevent it would be to abolish the anti-discrimination laws that limit what realtors are allowed to tell you about buyers and ask really really nicely for people to turn down the extra 5-6 figures a private equity firm can offer them
otherwise all anyone can do is jack up property taxes enough to eat into rental profit margins, which is ultimately still just pricing young people out of the market
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>>729638284
Call JG Wentworth
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>>729638915
No I need more money now by buying up a lot of houses and renting them out or sitting on them until someone pays more for rent, NOW!
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>>729638639
They always ignore this because they don't have to live near them. Progressive leftists just sound the horn of oppression and tolerance, then demand everyone else deal with the fallout. The bench dividers are a direct result of cities quietly dealing with progressive policies allowing the homeless to congregate unopposed. Ex California resident here.
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>we're gonna address the homeless issue!
>Alright, what does that entail?
>we're just gonna remove public bathrooms and try to close places where they tend to congregate like the library
Surely downtown will be saved THIS time!
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>>729638229
There are exactly zero people who are homeless solely because they can't afford a house
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>>729639045
They were already fucking those places up. Closing them made regular people lose out but the homeless issue isn't just the economy they're mostly crazy people.
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>>729637391
Legitimately why did they make Lumiose a shithole in the new game
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>>729639045
I don't see the problem. You threatened their livelihood to solve an issue, the solved it without getting their livelihood threathened by another group that mattered.

Them removing all the chairs and benches so hobos don't sleep on them is cheap and does solve the issue. You sitting on the floor is an unfortunate reality of living in a first world nation.
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>>729637391
It's funny to me because instead of these deterring homeless vagrabts it just pisses them off and causes them to destroy public property even more. Once watched some crackhead acquire a crowbar from his mates to try to bend every metal bit that would prevent him from lying down on a bench only to get frustrated and start randomly smashing the poor bench until the local PD who were no more than 200 feet away the whole time finally decided it was worth the hassle to stop him. Hostile architecture is hilarious to me, we'd rather uglify and make our society openly unfreindly than just round these people up and """"""help""""" them.
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>>729638229
Because ZOG needs desperate youth to fight wars for israel and the economic draft is the most efficient system. Plus it lowers White birth rates and political power
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>>729639079
I don't think that's correct. Statistically there has to be someone who can't move long distance, can't afford a house and can't make enough money to keep up with house prices.
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>>729639101
I know, I don't like the homeless either, but the solutions thus far have just been whack a mole
Adding rails on the benches just means they're gonna lay on the sidewalk. If you start adding spikes to the places they normally are, they're just gonna move somewhere else on the sidewalk.
And the city government has been trying for years to try to close the library to cut costs (pay themselves more) using the homeless as an excuse, despite everyone voting to keep the library every time.
For the record, I don't know how the problem gets solved, because my understanding is most people who are homeless actively don't want help, but at what point are we just cutting our nose to spite our face?
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>>729639228
Progressive leftists ensured that any effective strategy would be choked out by money laundering and virtue signaling. No RHINO or Trump fan was going to stick their head out to deal with it either, so richer cities just bus them to poorer ones. Can't call the police on them, can't kill them. You can only play kick the can.
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>>729638229
they got scared after occupy wall street and co-opted the left by dangling some pride flags in front of them so that they would focus on that instead of something that actually matters
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>>729639297
There is no solution that would be bipartisan. They've just been rounding them up and shipping them to poorer cities through Greyhounds. There's areas literally overrunning with crazy people that don't want help, just drugs and loitering. Thus you get places like Portland where it looks like a zombie movie.
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>>729639145
I don't remember the last time I needed to sit outside. Either I'm actually going somewhere and don't have time to stop, or I'm just taking a stroll and can pace it so that I won't tire myself bad enough to need a rest.
Benches are fundamentally homeless vs elderly vs obese topic.
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Major cities have been a danger for like 100 years the benches are hardly an issue
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>>729638229
Stop asking questions!
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>>729639469
t. suburban larper
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>>729639045
It's cheaper to actually fix the problem than pretend to fix the problem.
For example unemployment benefits in my country require dancing through 100 hoops. The hoops are enforced by private companies following the rules the government sets. If the government just gave everyone that wanted benefits the benefits it would be cheaper than paying the private companies to manage the system.
Same shit for homeless situation. If they actually houses people it would be cheaper than having to constantly round up the homeless.
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>>729639427
>but I didn't eat breakfast
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>>729639337
rainbow capitalism was honestly one of the most effective tactics the elite have ever pulled
it disenfranchised leftists, placated normalfag liberals, gave "enlightened centrists" an excuse to move further right and gave right wing accelerationists an enemy to rally against
seriously, millions of americans were willing to give up healthcare, housing and their jobs so they wouldn't have to see another blue haired woman in their star wars
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I'm trying to be a little more sympathetic towards the homeless these days because I know the upcoming GFC 2.0 is gonna leave at least 20% of the posters on this website including myself homeless. The real problem is how frighteningly easy and fast it is to end up homeless in this country and how quickly you find yourself out of options.
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>>729638229
Same reason we sacrificed public infrastructure to cars. Very profitable for a few people.
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>>729637391
kinda lame they didn't evolve the cat.
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>>729639007
I think progressives generally want to house the homeless, or at least I do. Then they wouldn't congregate anywhere.
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>>729639572
Cyberpunk 2020 Nomads seem realistic, now. Roving tribes of homeless people in various vehicles living in shantytowns made outside of cities due to anti homeless laws. The tribal nature surfaces due to having no system to rely on and ending up just making their own shitty versions
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>>729639570
it's actually amazing how the current woke lefties don't see it

the same people would cheer having hillary instead of bernie as a candidate

it's all retarded
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>>729637867
That's what I said 5 years ago. You're next
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>>729638676
thanks boomers
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>>729639297
>I don't know how the problem gets solved
It loops back to the question of environmentalism, harsh winters tend to keep homeless population in check.
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>>729639614
>le brown!
Drugs are the real prolem, but not like y'all have ever seen a homeless irl.
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>>729639614
Personally, I live in the middle of what 4chins considers hell on earth, you're free to guess which country
We have flat benches and ample public spaces and parks, which are all very popular with children and families
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>>729639570
And at the same time it completely killed complaints about jewish anti-Whiteness
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>>729639469
You're right that there have always been shady parts of cities, where you shouldn't walk down certain streets or alleys and shouldn't go alone if you aren't a local. Things are still different now. They didn't have this level of mental illness, of open accepted drug use, of actual zombie hordes congregating to exchange drugs and diseases and the days haul of stolen goods on the side of a street in the light of day. The fact that this is all public knowledge with thousands of hours of viewable footage makes it very much different.
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>>729639610
>>729639532
False, at least as far as California tried. They did almost exactly this but with long term hotel/motel rentals and the homeless just ruined the place and got angry they couldn't do drugs. Meanwhile people that were just unhoused were ignored. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
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>>729639698
good afternoon
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>>729639297
That they don't want help is mostly a myth. Very few people choose to live outside with no bathroom or shower. But most emergency shelters don't have storage for personal posessions or allow pets, and many aren't set up to shelter families, so a lot of people turn them down cuz they don't want to leave everything the own or any animals or loved ones alone outside and risk losing them. Then people use that to substantiate the aforementioned myth.
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I never realised those were anti-homeless things, I thought they were just arm-rests for people.

Wouldn't you be able to slide yourself through them though, and be able to have a comfortable sleep confident you won't roll off the bench now with those keeping you in place? Just a thought.
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>>729638842
In Pokemon XY Emma was homeless and had to sleep on benches in Lumiose City. Through her storyline she was adopted by Inspector Looker, and later by Xerosic of Team Flare. Through her two adoptive guardians she obtained a place to stay, a job to do, a Pokemon team to support her, and a superspy suit to keep her sharp.

In ZA, set 5 years after XY, all the benches in Lumiose City now have anti-homeless armrails installed, and Emma is noticing this.
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>>729639692
Drugs are problem only when there's a segment of population dumb enough to get hooked on them.
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>>729639751
Being homeless makes people develop hoarding behaviors and degrades their hygeine habits because of the nature of being homeless, and addicts were not getting treatment at these emergency hotel shelters, so yes they continued to suffer from addiction, which is a medical condition rather than a character flaw.
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>>729639774
Horseshit, they want a place to do drugs, pile up their shit, and fuck. Terrible management because of optimistic but naive altruists like yourself. I lived through this crap and worked in a profession that dealt with them.
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>>729639760
Not quite, it's past midnight here
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>>729639594
Emma doesn't even own Mimi, she's a domesticated wild Pokemon that acts as Emma's handler at times. Like how Meowth in Team Rocket is technically a wild Pokemon too, nobody owns him.
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>>729639297
Reopen the insane asylums, even in Norway where they get free housing we still have homeless people. Giving them homes is also costly since they need to be completely renovated when they move out or just leave
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>>729639774
i work in a liquor shop and one homeless guy kept coming in everyday telling me how he didnt care he couldnt see his kid he just wanted to sit around in a tent drinking cheap wine with a hot meal and do nothing else ever, would always rest his oily chinese food on the counter and leave a mark
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>>729639828
Bro unless you want to open non voluntarily sanitariums your solution of essentially wealth redistribution isn't working and has never worked.
>>729639897
Succinctly put.
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>>729639897
Probably not a great solution since those places will just be rife with abuse and fraud. You'll end up in a situation where you're probably gonna have a lot of private companies try to suck up as many contracts as possible and cheap out on every aspect of the operation leading to bad times for everyone involved.
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>>729639079
Don't think so, but most homeless are mentally ill, and not just normal people out of their luck as the usual narrative goes.
>>729639570
And yet Dems won't abandon it and send maga to the shadow dimension.
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>>729639861
I also worked in a profession that dealt with them except I was involved with permanent supportive housing, which provides an apartment with full support services on the first floor aka nurses councillors and social workers so they're available whenever, based on the belief it's easier to beat addiction and mental health and if youre not also sleeping in the cold and running from cops who ineffectually chase them in circles. 97% of those people were still off the streets a year later, better than any prison or non-housing first option, and they generally took in the worst cases.
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>>729639935
Wealth distribution has not happened, it's only moved in the other direction while I've been alive, so I can't say whether its worked
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>>729639079
The confidence with which you state something so wildly, shamelessly incorrect is rather impressive.
Like obviously the intermediate step between being homeless and owning a home is renting, but overpriced homes absolutely increases the cost of renting, which contributes to homelessness more directly than any other factor (yes, including drugs).
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/pol/ thread but solutions for homeless exist by writing laws and not making money holes. Homeless people are basically moneyholes like gamblers but instead of gambling it's substances. Don't need asylums (they already exist as ""state hospitals""). Aslyums are dark places where people are medicated out of their minds and the streets are probably more merciful for anyone that can function out there
once more /pol/ thread
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>>729639734
Biggest mistake the boomers did, and there are many, was being so cultishly individualist as a culture. As a matter of fact I think if you're not sane enough to integrate into proper society, or you think slamming H on the daily is your idea of a fulfilling life, even at the expense of stealing from everyone around you, you belong in an institution. Not a prison, but we need to bring back mental institutions, and people need to go there. Perhaps these weirdos can then petition to be moved to northern Idaho or Montano or Wyoming or some other place with barely any people for them to cause problems.
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>>729639985
>shadow dimension.
Shadow realm*
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>>729639985
remind yourself that both parties exist to serve the donors first and everyone else second, thanks to citizens united
why do you think they snubbed Bernie (who was beating Trump in the polls) to push Clinton (who was losing to both)?
dems would rather lose than win with someone who won't serve the rich
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>>729639990
What made your results so different than California? Because none of that happened here it was a stark opposite. The problem has only gotten worse and put businesses out of commission and property values to plummet. Not to mention the increased crime. They all wanted to live this hippie-esk life of drugs, sex and no rules no matter what was offered.
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>>729639774
>they didn't heckin abandon their pets WHOLESOME CHUNGUS 100 UPVOTE THIS REDDIT HERE'S A LINK TO MY I MEAN THEIR BUYMEACOFFEE FUND!
Dragging your pets onto the street with you is sad, you know why it's sad? Because you never should have had that animal in the first place. This performative oh look I got ma dawg an my cat an ma other dawg an ma rat and we panhandle on da side of da road for 14 hours a day to earn enough for one can o beans for all of us is fucking pathetically boomerpilled and you're a fucking rube if it pulls on your heartstrings. You're part of the problem.
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>>729639897
Asylums are a non-starter in the US unless you have a magic wand to wave that makes them perfectly not liable for anything that happens to their patients, otherwise they would be sued out of their minds within the day. And then of course giving any institution too much freedom from liability is how you get shit like Disney arguing that they aren't responsible for a wrongful death because the victim had disney+.
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>>729639337
That leftists suddenly dropped their crusades against corporate fuckery over a few flags was a very success lie by the alt-right griftosphere.
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>>729640114
People say homelessness got worse while solutions were being tried as if the solutions made it worse rather than the dramatically rising cost of housing and various economic crises happening at the same time. "Plugging one of the holes didn't work cuz now water is leaking out faster, but not because of all these much larger holes, it's because we tried to plug one up"
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>>729639045
This. Genuinely just cull those drug addicts.
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>>729640114
I want to guess that they're from a European country with a totally different mindset.
Europeans are naive and don't think human waste exists, but they're also smart enough to know that throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it like America seems to reason (pro-tip that makes the problem bigger FREE STUFF HERE GET YOUR FREE STUFF)
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We don’t have homeless in my country so I’m curious how do they get to this state of life?
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>>729637391
old emma>new emma
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>>729640164
I'm so surprised by leftists saying lies like this without any pause. Like they didn't get behind pharmaceutical giants just to beat people over the head, encourage corporate overreach into people's private lives to police speech and repeating progressive mantras. Like they didn't vehemently support purging "white oppressors" from every institution solely because they were white men, and prop up criminals through religious fanaticism and political legislation that saw to the release of thousands of violent criminals to reoffend in the name of "restorative justice". Lying rat.
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>>729640250
It's a medical condition though? And actually stable housing is a big contributor to successful treatment, or at least it works better than leaving them outside until they just figure out how to be okay in that context.
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>>729640250
Never gonna happen but anyone with a modicum of conscience is going to unstand that killing your own citizens on masse for being homeless is pretty fucking unpopular, not unless you're ready to start culling people who are against you culling the homeless. So if you're keen on that good luck in your future civil war I guess.
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>>729640268
I'm from an american city, I just don't think the solution to the symptoms of poverty is punishment rather than reducing poverty
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>>729640104
Bernie is part of the same ideology that made Dems into retards, he was pushed aside because of in-party politics not because he was going after the rich.
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>>729640320
please, nobody ends in drugs by mistake or ignorance. it's always middle class faggot that think they are invicible and tha abdul the dealer is the funniest friend they ever met. Nothing looks more like a junky's life than another junky's.
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>>729638229
>banks decide to start giving mortgages to broke niggers
>the broke niggers do not have the money to pay the mortgage and have no intention of doing so
>the banks are now in debt for giving out free money to niggers
>this is used as an excuse to launder money to black rock in order to "bail out the banks"
>black rock becomes a big private equity firm
>black rock creates ESG which they use to trick corporations into investing in things that benefit black rock
>black rock becomes even richer and more powerful
>black rock starts buying as much property as possible
Then there's also the fact that these types of firms are also copying China's tofu construction by hiring cheap illegal contractors and using the cheapest material to make flimsy homes as fast as possible. The houses that do exist are not really built to be lived in, they are shitty, moldy shells which will collapse the moment a storm comes by. Plenty of these faux homes are being rented out to niggers and spics who cannot/will not be able to pay too. This might remind you of the mistake the banks made, but this time the government just preemptively pays the banks/investment firms the amount that the nigs and spics don't.
It's an infinite money glitch at your expense
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>>729640202
>>729640268
Perhaps so, perhaps California, because of the process they used, brought out the worst of it specifically. I'm always very careful about writing blank checks for "solutions" because of abuse by said Californian politicians and bureaucrats. Just as well, people that function normally shouldn't see people who can't reward it more than they are.
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>>729639774
That they want to stop using drugs is a lie. That’s why they get kicked out of their parents or friends houses. Simply because they don’t want to stop using drugs and continue to steal from the ones helping them. Just read some interviews or watch some documentaries, their close ones to spend years trying to help them before closing the door on them
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>>729640292
Drugs
Kicked out by parents at 18
Military service or prison (same thing really) institutionalized the person so bad they cannot function IRL

A lot of people are homeless but live in cars or RVs because they lose their job and cannot afford rent, are too old or infirm to find better work because they stuck to working class, or got injured and ran out of work compensation. These ones usually live in a car or something.
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>>729640379
Homelessness isn't a poverty problem, it's a drug problem.
I've seen the man who got divorced and lost everything and is camping and he can get on his feet in a month or two with the generous work programs offered to SOBER PEOPLE.
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>>729639532
>If they actually houses people it would be cheaper than having to constantly round up the homeless
lmao they just fuck up the houses and turn them into drug dens instead
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>>729639610
Unfortunately, the programs to house the homeless were also supposed to rehabilitate them so they can get back on their feet, but were unable or unwilling to follow through on that part
I'm on board with the idea of reducing homelessness through humane methods but the people in charge obviously didn't actually care enough to do it
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>>729640292
Real estate prices are a massive % of western GDP, so western governments absolutely cannot let the inflated costs of housing self-correct, otherwise their fake and gay economies collapse.
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>>729640292
Have pre-existing mental issues (anxiety, depression, schizoid personality, etc.) or physical disability (joint pain, chronic fatigue, actual severe injury).
Not enough money to get actually treated properly so hospital shoves you at the local pill mill doc that just gives you super strong mood-altering drugs or opiates.
Get instantly, hopelessly hooked on the drugs they prescribe in colossal quantities.
Enter the death spiral where more and more of your time is spent either high or getting money to get high.
Now you can't pay your rent/mortgage, so you get evicted and HOPEFULLY crash at friend/family's place.
But your druggie ass is insufferable because the drugs basically hijack your entire thought process and eventually they kick you out.
Bam, street bum willing to suck a dick for 20 bucks to spend on their next hit.
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>>729640317
hey real quick can you tell me who signed operation warp speed?
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>>729640292
There are various pathways. Mental illness and lack of care is the biggest one, drugs are the second biggest and very much exacerbate the first. A smaller percentage actually do get fucked by life, as in they're people who can actually a job but their car got struck by lightning on their way in or their job collapsed into the ground after and earthquake happened.
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>>729640292
lose connexion with parents because one side is retarded (or both)
lose jobs
In most countries, having no job means you can't get a new appartment, even once that you could technically afford with all the wellfare money. so you are stuck in the expensive one you can't afford untilthe cops throw you out.
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>>729640421
However it starts it's a chemical change to the brain that alters your behavior and is a known medical condition once it's started. I don't think people who get cancer because of their nicotene addiction should be denied treatment for their cancer cuz they tried a cigarette when they were a dumb kid. It's kind of cruel to punish someone for life for something like that.
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>>729640537
>I don't think people who get cancer because of their nicotene addiction should be denied treatment
you don't think. I get that part.
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>>729640436
Then healthcare access is the solution rather than any punishment or suffering. That's been the status quo for decades and the problems still exist.
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>>729640436
People seem to often forget too that we have a huge OPIOID problem here in the states too. A fuckton of people get addicted to painkillers and what happens when they go homeless? They take the hard shit to deal with their problems. Not every homeless person is some bathsalt user whacked outta their minds. A lot of them are people genuinely hooked on medications they need to be functional members of society.
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>>729640492
Trump. Do you remember when leftists said they weren't going to take his vaccine? Remember when celebrities among them said they were going to leave the country after he got elected? Remember when leftists said that big pharmaceutical companies are on ontological evil and should never be trusted? Remember everything Fauci did in his professional history and how he was hailed as a hero by the left? I could go on if you'd like.
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>>729639045
god damn i read it in his voice, i still miss him
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>>729640292
We didn't have homless in my country either. Then there was a revolution and now we do. Turns out when you give all the people freedom to be anything they want some will inevitably choose to be miserable.
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Why don't we just flood the market with cheap drugs that have almost lethal amounts of mercury or whatever in them?

You could even just say you would. They'll take it anyway. Just speeds up the process. Same with banning aids medication unless you have probable cause. Sorry, no free bathhouse gape pills!
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>>729640469
On this we agree. Attempts to "treat" homelessness by the rich and powerful are performative. The issue itself is a symptom of the status quo enforced and profited off of by those same people, so ending it is not an option
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You want to solve homelessness? Solve crapitalism first.
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>>729640492
Who created a program to give millions to private healthcare providers rather than pushing for socialized healthcare?
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>>729639985
>Don't think so, but most homeless are mentally ill
Your existence being at risk and being shunned by society as a whole tends to do that, yeah
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>>729638229
Jews
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>>729637867
the bus stops in my area, when they actually have "seating" are angled so high you can't even sit on them
see these little old ladies having to stand because if they even tried to use them they'd fall over
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>>729640669
To do that you would have to purge the great banking families of the world. Then anyone that was culpable with them. A sort of revolution if you would.
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>>729637775
>steel type
Add it to the list
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>>729640689
I live in Alaska and the homeless here literally just go live in the woods. They are permitted to hang out in a few public spaces with no persecution or police presence, but theres an unspoken social contract.

A few months ago some of them got the idea to start an encampment right on main street and just propped their tents up right where all the cruise ships line up. They were cleared out so fucking fast. I don't know how it went down, but one day there were tents everywhere and they were all sitting around doing homeless shit and then the next day, all of it was just gone.
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>>729640675
It's the opposite sadly, homeless spiked since asylum closed. Institutions were awful and rightfully hated, but the fact that there was no follow up plan is a generational failure (and yes, it was Reagan's fault).
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>>729640689
Public spaces being made more hostile to homeless people are just public spaces more hostile to people. It's the wrong direction to go
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>>729640504
People don't get/have hidden mental illnesses and then suddenly lapse into being rotgut homeside drunkards/junkies. The drugs do a number on them until it's just a shell of a person.
>>729640480
this guy knows
Doctors don't say "brain damage from drugs" or "fucking retarded junkie" like a normal person they write "not aware of what day it is" and "schizoaffective kleptomaniac" and since doctor logic insists brain disorders are genetic and are never caused from drugs then it looks like "genetic mental illness" (probably doesn't exist at all) is the cause of homelessness but this is all too common PhD backwards logic

>>729640589
I want to dismiss it but you're probably half right. A lot of veterans are in pain, get painkillers (and then maybe a drug habit) and become homeless but that can be from a list of reasons from PTSD to a general failure to integrate into society.
Little children are hooked on meth as ADHD medication and while they're totally wrecked for the rest of their lives they can still go to a school and get a job and function. A simple drug doesn't put someone out on the streets unless that's literally all they have in their lives.
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>>729640431
>>729640480
>>729640504
Damn that’s rough, are there no policies or charities to help these sort of people?
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>>729640517
Can’t these people just rent a room or something? Housing is extremely fucked in my country but staying with parents (often pay them rent) or renting a room is common
>looks up cost of purchasing a house vs renting in US
>3000 per month
What the fuck is that real or is Google lying to me
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>>729640728
>>729640790
>>729640836
Great posts keep them coming. I fucking love bodysuits.
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>>729640320
Places with progressives in america also go for strong tennant rights, mass illegal immigration, and anti landlord policies, which leads to a relative shortage of units and people really fucking unwilling to risk renting to drug abusers.

>>729640429
Additionally the progressives running the social welfare programs for the homeless, say in California are incredibly inefficent to the point of being scammers. We put a huge amount of money in to a "housing first" strategy, and many new units are coming in costing half a million to a million each for a one bedroom.

The lawyers for the homeless rights activists seem to be one of the few big winners. Getting injunctions against cleanup actions, which have lead to giant garbage piles in skid row big enough to be visible from space. And when there's a typhus or bubonic plague outbreak, we have protesters fighting the police every time they try to clean things up a little.
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>>729640669
You people don't want to kill jews so that's never gonna ever happen
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>>729640816
>Damn that’s rough, are there no policies or charities to help these sort of people?
Many of the charities are optimized to extract maximum money from the goverment while doing the minimum possible. If they solve the problem no more money. The policies are kneejerk, flailing, and also have to deal with the court system.

In general, they qualify for section 8 which will pay for an apartment, but they also have to not get kicked out of said apartment for being a drugged up failure.


>What the fuck is that real or is Google lying to me
Yes, but the caveat is that america is fucking huge, and the situation in downtown NYC is different than buttfuck idaho. Homeless people really should be moved from out of high density expensive to do anything areas to lower density, cheaper to build housing areas.
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>>729640670
Mitt Romney
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>>729640816
Of course there are, but they fall through the cracks anyway.
There's always issues with funding or whatever, and whatever institutions do exist are instantly assaulted by the drug addicts everyone keeps bringing up, who turn every halfway house or program into an opportunity to continue their addiction.
Then you have people who for whatever reason did not pay into social security, meaning as they age they aren't able to easily pull from it.
If you're actually physically fucked up and have few work skills, once you lose your job and age out of being truly competitive, you're going to have serious problems and probably wind up on welfare or medicaid for life and trying to pull social security.

Section 8 always gets fucked up from welfare queens, drug dealers, and there's always more hands demanding than there are resources they have to give out.

Some people just fall through the cracks. You can disappear very easily in America so it's not hard to slip out of public reality altogether.
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>>729641079
Ah yes, Romneycare.
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>>729640791
This. Euthanasia is simply the better option.
>>729640670
Obamna
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>>729640913
Well I'm sure if we just weakened tenant rights and gave landlords more power then homelessness would just sort itself right out eh?
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>>729640816
There are in fact good social programs, especially in places where homelessness is prevalent in America, that focus on helping able-bodied people find jobs. The people that want to rise above the very bottom are able to. The problem is that it is not necessarily a life to aspire to even compared to the squalor and chaos of living in the street. The drug-addled community lifestyle is incredibly appealing to the especially downtrodden because it doesn't ask much of them and is much easier to slide into than other personal hell of waking up at a God-forsaken time like 9 AM and working until 3 PM four days a week so you can afford one fifth of a 1,200 ft condo with your roomates in LA with government assistance.
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In all seriousness, what's the diagetic reason for her to wear a bodysuit and show off her ass?
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>>729637391
Just get a job poorscum
You have a negative attitude
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>>729641175
Why would her pants give her diarrhea you retard
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>>729637819
>to rest their arms on.
Those are too low to rest your arms on them
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>>729641175
She's whore
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>>729641221
Maybe for you lanklet
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>>729641120
That would at least make the implicit death threat that drives wage slavery more explicit, it not necessarily more effective. Bad luck if a company you work for downsizes or if parents you live with lose all money and property to healthcare bills.
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>>729641204
Oh, diegetic, whatever. Same question.
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>>729641131
>when I woke up last semester at 6:30 am to shower and commute for 8:30 AM class and got home at like 6pm fairly regularly
If I had to do that shit for a job 5 or 6 days a week for fifty years then shit I would rather camp in the woods instead too
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>>729641175
Isn't it because she has an evil alter-ego or something? I don't know I never played the newer Pokey-man games, I just care about bodysuits.
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>>729640761
>genuinely mentally ill people left to rot in asylums somehow end up homeless after asylums close
Shocking
But how does that disprove being a hobo most of society wants "gone" and drugs being pretty much your only comfort causing mental issues
Like yeah, sucks to be around them, but I don't get why anyone expects them to act like average Joe when they're one cold week away from dying and basically have no route back to society
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>>729639145
>Cannot fix homeless issue
>First world nation
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>729637391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2_LP0CwFWc
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>one year of housing the homeless
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>>729640292
drug addictions and/or untreated mental illness like schizophrenia
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>>729640761
Where they really that awful or was it just Hollywood propaganda? For example electroshock therapy is still used voluntarily because it works. Secondly mentally ill people do not make for trustworthy witnesses since their grasp of reality is fleeting
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>>729641106
obamacare was a compromise because the republicans were completely unwilling to budge, all the while having literally no healthcare plan of their own, not even the concepts of a plan
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>>729641384
>Why are the homeless in the habit of desperately holding onto everything they can get and not in the habit of keeping a home clean??? I'm baffled
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>>729641370
could be comfy, just curl under the middle rail
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>>729641314
It's not only when they closed, there was no mentalcare support for both existing and newer mentalally ill people. asylums closed 40 years ago, and I guarantee there's a lot of under 40's that are homeless, mentally ill and addicted to drugs.
>but I don't get why anyone expects them to act like average Joe when they're one cold week away from dying and basically have no route back to society
That's the wrong expectation, they can't "pull themselves by their own bootstraps" because they are not normal. That's the point. They can't function without support and society closed the places where they were kept hidden away, so they spilled onto the streets and became everyone's problem.
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>>729641175
attracting mates
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>>729641458
Not my house, not my problem
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>>729641130
Of course not. That's an idiotic pol tier suggestion.

>>729641175
>>729641204
I've had one too many and misread it as diuretic.

>>729641434
They were bad, but street living in an India tier garbage pile is worse.
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>>729638229
An affordable society that generally works to meet the needs of its citizens over billionaires is woke communism, or so a couple decades of propaganda (with some real sophisticated refinements in recent years) has taught the average retard.
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>>729640761
We still see the aftershocks of asylums closing with the constant videos of old people getting the shit kicked out of them and manhandled at "Old Folks Homes" aka the new asylums by disorderly orderlies that you have to be old enough to ride. I don't blame them at all. To be perfectly frank, this is what dealing with mentally ill adults is like, they can be aggressive and insanely strong because tard strength is real. I completely understand why all the asylums had horrible treatment of their patients, because you need a fucking army of physically fit individuals to wrangle them and even then you're liable to get punched, kicked, bruised, bit, and maimed if the mood takes them.
>t. worked several years at a tard wrangler entry position in a mental health facility for """"""""teens"""""""" and had to routinely wrestle them to the ground for a million reasons including them raping other patients
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>>729640428
>The houses that do exist are not really built to be lived in, they are shitty, moldy shells which will collapse the moment a storm comes by.
Bro, I have seen a few videos going trough the "made in US" homes and holy shit, this is depressing. People are paying multiple mil for a home that is held together by nothing. Cracked wood hidden by paper and chicken wire. And even worse, a new home where everything comes pre broken. Its insane.
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>>729641586
Ok but what if it was your problem.
What if it was constantly, repeatedly your problem to the point where simply punishing them costs you a lot too.
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>commies/liberals blaming everybody but themselves
govern me harder, daddy!
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>>729641106
Obamacare was a cash grab the insurance companies snuck in since they got to write all the legislation since nobody else knows about insurance. How much does Obama or Mitt Romney know about health insurance? Do they pull out their medicare card when they go to the doctor? "Haha no sir, no need for that sir, come finest surgeon, we'll have that heart ready for you in a second, there must have been an error in that donor list."
US healthcare has been broken for decades (insurance is just like loans in that guaranteeing payment means the price has no incentive to ever decrease, just like college and housing costs absolutely exploding - you can buy it but never afford it with the power of loan since they got to write all the legislation since nobody else knows about insurance. How much does Obama or Mitt Romney know about health insurance? Do they pull out their medicare card when they go to the doctor? "Haha no sir, no need for that sir, come finest surgeon, we'll have that heart ready for you in a second, there must have been an error in that donor list."
US healthcare has been broken for decades (insurance is just like loans in that guaranteeing payment means the price has no incentive to ever decrease, just like college as). Some cash injection always seems to help initially but the only winners from the healthcare legislation were insurance providers, costs went up and people were (past tense- can't tax someone for not buying something) threatened monetarily to buy into the system.
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>>729641434
Mental illness is awful and unknown to most normal people (I'm talking actual mental illness, not just ADHD or people "claiming" to have depression shit). Many were kept heavily drugged, involuntary kept in what amounts to a low-security prison or/and lumped together with patients with more problems which just led to a spiral of problems. That was also when they were not running experiments to see what makes them tick (we learned a lot but caused lot of suffering along the way).
>>729641441
Americans really shouldn't have compromised and wait for the issue boilover. It's still is one of the most important issues, so clearly the compromise isn't working.
The federal government pays more than Canada or the UK while also not having health care. That's insane.
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>>729641667
Still not my problem.
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>>729641668
>He says, blaming commies/liberals
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>>729641668
>STOP BLAMING MUH DADDY BUSINESS!!!
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>>729640292
you absolutely do
it's just that a) they are nowhere as numerous as in US and b) your law enforcement agencies actually do their job so you are very unlikely to just stumble upon them
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>>729641670
odd typo; ignore that middle paragraph, or ignore that post entirely if you have that 3-day ban button lmao

hold on let me go to the dedicated board to debate all the uhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>Businesses next to the largest homeless encampment are shuttered and foot traffic ends the next block over and really ends 2 blocks over
>They want to impose a "vacancy tax" basically microtargeted to the guy who owns the building so he has to sell it to someone, who presumably is supposed to just kamikaze a new business into a place people just do not go
I don't really care, the city has hundreds of blocks that are basically funcitonal, the city effectively picked this guy's block to destroy and they must just not like him, but now they're bullying him to sell his building for nothing lmao that's so fucked
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Pokemon?
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Why did they give a child detective in a pokemon game a latexsuit?
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>>729641670
It's not only healthcare but also Universities that run on this racket system. The government spends a lot of tax money filling the pockets of private entities to provide a service, just for that same private entities make it even more expensive and slurp more money.
Healthcare, pharmaceutical companies, higher education, investiments...
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I fucking hate Amerigolems so much, it's unreal.
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>>729638229
>private equity
This is just a synonym for Jews
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>>729638229
Same reason billions of dollars from the taxpayer's money were given to somaliens on fraud scheme that gave part of it back to Democrats?
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>>729641668
>guy conflating commies and liberals thinks he knows how big cities are being governed
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>>729641918
Yes all of these systems are government financed, heavily regulated, and pushed on everyone as a matter of course. Having an extensive list of medications is apparently normalized now among 18-year olds.
The more money you have, the less money matters, and the more control matters instead. The US gov prints money all day, they don't care how much they spend. But someone wants you mediated and with a degree that's for sure. Maybe having people deep in debt (and interacting constantly with digitized systems) is the goal? A government is only as sinister as its moneyed interests.
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deregulate zoning
>but the immigra-
deregulate zoning
>but the specula-
deregulate zoning
>but the landlo-
deregulate zoning
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>>729641620
It's going to get even worse as the US population inevitably gets older and the people who'll take care of them will very probably be migrants who: don't speak their language, don't care or don't share the same culture (or all at the same).
Elderly abuse is going through the roof.
>I don't blame them at all.
That's the sad bit, anyone who has dealt with mentally ill knows how hard, draining and physically dangerous it is. We still don't have good solutions even after all this time.
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>>729642104
>conflating commies and liberals
two kinds of socialists
>how big cities are being governed
by politicians in bed with they meta-capitalist butt buddies

if only we hade more taxes, more regulations and more power to the so trust worthy politicians!
well, guess we'll just have to vote harder for Bernie next time, eh, comrade?
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>>729642290
>Death Solves all problems. No man, no problem
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>>729639818
Thanks anon, Pokemon is fucking gay btw, you turbo faglord
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>>729641715
There is no "issue boilover" with America's problems since too much of the population will tolerate, even cheer for literally any suffering imaginable if they fear other groups they don't like might also receiving the same benefits. They LIKE being abused because it teaches hard work or something.
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>>729637614
This
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>>729642249
Look at a city like Houston if you want to see how a lack of zoning laws goes.
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>>729642315
You're welcome. Have a nice day and kill yourself.
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>>729639774
That's true for some of them for sure, but you're also delusional if you think the vast majority of beggars are like this. This isn't a fairytale, most of them just want to drink and drug themself as much as possible, and they get a pet dog because people are more likely to donate to a homeless man with a dog than to a homeless man. Deep down they might "want" to live a normal life but they have absolutely no willpower to try to, and they often got kicked out by their friends and family in the first place
like >>729640430 said. It's extremely difficult to deal with such people, even if you give them free housing they're likely to litter the poace and leave it in a terrible place
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>>729642365
is this the first poke game with protagonists old enough to vote?
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Homeless people are not actually people.
Poor people are not actually people.
Empathetic people are not actually people.
Weak people are not actually people.
The only people who are actually people are rich, powerful, sociopathic sadists, and this world was created solely to be their playground.
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homelessness is just the ultimate NEET lifestyle
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>>729642314
stalin didn't genocide homeless people thoughbeit
he managed to solve the homeless problem in large urban centres however, look up "101st kilometre"
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>>729642290
Except cruelty war and needless death and suffering
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>>729639734
Weird how this is the case only in countries that do not try to rehabilitate the homless and the addicts. In every other country they are not too far gone.
Must be an inferior race genetic issue or something
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>>729642458
Diogenes would be proud
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>>729642350
Yet healthcare has been one of the number one issues for the last few years. The want is there, you just need to push the issue correctly. Obamacare isn't working.
>too much of the population will tolerate,
Even they have a breaking point, check approval polling and you'll see.
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>>729642498
None of those things are modern problems, retard. Those have all existed since humanity has existed. Read the post you are replying to next time
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>>729642498
>needless death and suffering
No such thing. The meaning of life is to accumulate as much power as possible, and prove your power by inflicting death and suffering upon as many people as possible. Whoever kills the world first wins.
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>>729642443
Fundamentally I don't think having an addiction means you deserve to be homeless. It means you need more help than someone who isn't having that problem.
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>>729641670
>Healthcare broken
>Housing market broken
>Legal system broken
>Road maintenance broken
>Education system broken
>Rampant homeless and drug use in the streets
Damn, being Chinese starts to seem like the better option
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>>729641175
she wants to get plapped by calem
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>>729642392
Houston still has zoning it's just relaxed because people in Houston get to live next to oil refineries. Exciting! What's the life expectancy in East Houston?
Anyways the zoning people want is dense, varied, and attractive, like all those historic downtowns that are only historic because they became illegal and are only grandfathered in. Some new developments mimic the classic live-works and sometimes duplexes, but rarely ever the multi-family homes.
"Repealing" zoning laws would probably create more problems than it would solve but they definitely could stand being written over from scratch since the zoning laws now are basically only exist to literally defend against nuclear attacks because you know the cold war is actually the still dominating factor in the USA's urban planning lmao this fucking nation of scam artists and zombies
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>>729642683
It's not broken. It's functioning exactly as intended. You need to start seeing the world as what it actually is: a great big torture chamber, where the elites are free to torture everyone for fun, over and over again, forever. That's all the world was ever meant to be, a playground for wealthy sadists.
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>>729642594
This is because you're a mentally ill leftist who thinks that personal responsibility isn't a thing.
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>>729642772
>being this mindbroken
At least the aforementioned systems (or vast majority of them) work in developed countries, allowing some clemency
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>>729642718
Zoning in my city is a tool to protect wealthy single family neighborhoods as enclaves of property value while cramming all the denser and more affordable housing up against the noisiest busiest streets.
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>>729642839
Power-hungry sadists always rise to the top, and they will always subvert any system to feed their endless hunger for inflicting suffering. History has shown us that time and time again. So, clearly, powerful sadists making everyone else suffer is the natural order, and the only system that will actually work as intended is one that is intended to let sadists indulge their sadism and get away with it. We need to let the sadists win, and fulfill their destiny: to torture the entire world to death.
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>>729638229
i dont think its necessarily a question of "allowing" it as much as it is the government printing and borrowing so much fucking money that corporate america ends up drowning in it, making the average working person's purchasing power completely insignificant compared to it. inevitably all that money is then used to troll and grief the population, but i mean they shouldn't have it anyway. technically that money only temporarily exists on paper until the US defaults, depending on how you look at it. oops
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Can we get more assgirl posts going as well? Thanks
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You guys are just screaming into the void
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>>729638915
877 CASH NOW

I have an annuity and I need cash noooow
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>>729642594
I honestly think you deserved to be shot.
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>>729642879
You might be confusing cause and effect. There's no king that decides where nice and shit houses go. People want to live next to cliffside views and waterways and more peace/less noise so they'll pay for it.
Cities are tricky and they're one of several things Western Europeans have "figured out" pretty well but that's a combination of having the continent built and iteratively rebuilt for thousands of years, so you get some practical wisdom from the ground up and a lot more caution and good examples when modern thinkers try to redesign something. The USA? Throw a traffic light up. Timers! Have a 5 mph grocery store parking lot turning into 60 mph access road with a highway overpass intersection. Great. Nothing like a zero to sixty driveway.
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>>729643058
Wrong. Everything said here is being read by your local politician who secretly cares very deeply about their community
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>>729642826
I feel a personal responsibility for the well being of my communty because I have to live in it
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>>729643115
What is a communty?
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>>729643058
You should be screaming just for screaming's sake. The ideal state of being is screaming, howling, snarling, cackling insanity.
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>>729643113
Hi I'm Barack Obama and I've read every post in this thread
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>>729643103
>There's no king that decides where nice and shitty houses go
There's a correlation between the wealthiest neighborhoods and redlining maps of my city from after ww2. There were people deciding which places were and weren't getting massive government investments in their development and it's rippled through to current day.
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>>729643115
lole
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>>729643185
nigger
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>>729643185
Thanks Obama.
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>>729640807
>doctor logic insists brain disorders are genetic and are never caused from drugs
Substance induced mood disorders are not only commonly diagnosed, but in my experience make up one of the larger pluralities of involuntarily committed patients. HIPAA prevents me from providing proof, unfortunately, but I'm looking at the list of IVC cases in my system right this moment. It's pretty much a coin flip between suicide attempts and substance-induced psychiatric disorders.
The problem isn't that these disorders go undiagnosed or underdiagnosed. The problem is, what the hell do you do about it? Good luck finding a bed at a behavioral health facility, and God help you if the patient is old enough to need geropsych. All we can do is begin treatment, endure their abuse until they're as stable as they're getting, write some prescriptions they can't or won't remain compliant with, and send them on their way to do it all over again.
And it's not just the psychiatric disorders that create barriers for the homeless. Have afib but can't afford your direct oral anticoagulant? They'll be back with a stroke eventually. Have congestive heart failure and a daily diuretic to manage it? Having nowhere to piss frequently does a number on compliance, so they're back in a few days with +4 weeping edema and coarse crackles in their lungs you don't need a stethoscope to hear. These people are often just shit out of luck. It's often a bed of their own making given their antisocial tendencies, attitudes, and behaviors, yeah. But it's our problem regardless short of some sort of homeless final solution, because these people can't or won't be reintegrated into society, as this jackass will attest to. >>729641458
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>>729643115
Then the answer is to arrest vagrants, or at the very least, bus them out of your community. Why would you give free housing to people who will happily rob you to pay for their next fix? Are you completely retarded, or just a leftist?
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>>729643278
He's a brain-damaged leftist obviously. He is incapable of self reflection and accountabilities.
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>>729643238
I obamacare :)
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>>729639079
He's right to a point, obviously logically there must be SOME homeless due to the fact that they simply have
>Zero/not enough income to rent in their area
>Zero family or friends to support them
>Zero mental or physical health issues putting them into this position
>Zero history of terrible financial decisions placing them on this path
>Some sort of inability to leave the area and travel somewhere new where it is affordable to rent

But they must make up a ridiculously tiny portion of homeless people. Less than 0.0001% because that is a LOT of hoops to jump through.

Even that baseline of
>No friends or family to support them
>...but no mental or physical health issues

Is so incredibly unlikely, even orphans coming out of the care system at 18 without adopted parents STILL have systems in place to support them transitioning into independent living. So to get to that point where NOBODY can help you, and your full time job working at a restaurant does not pay enough to support you renting a room at a sharehouse, something must have specifically gone very wrong somewhere down the line

The vast majority of homeless are just alcoholics and/or drug addicts that cant maintain themselves well enough to manage their own life, so basically people with mental health issues
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>>729641175
"team flare's scientist gave me a super high tech stealth suit 10 years ago"
no, she never ever uses the suit for anything in the story of the game nor the DLC, nor is it even referenced to have ever been used for anything
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>>729643278
>arrest vagrants
nice slippery slope
>bus them out
to where, another place that will do the same?
you really are stupid, aren't you?
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>>729643278
Well most money stolen from individuals is via wage theft by bosses who usually have all their basic needs met, and theft driven by unmet needs including food housing and healthcare access are usually correlated with lack of access to those things aka poverty. Fed people don't steal food. Addicts don't recover from being moved to another place or thrown in jail (overdose chances actually increase after incarceration on average), but stable housing is actually a big part of effective treatment. So if I actually want the problem solved rather than swept out of sight then I want to help
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>>729643196
Well you're actually right. The poor/black neighborhood in my city was bulldozed for the interstate to go through it and the main decision process behind that was probably just old 1955 racism. That pattern is pretty typical through the US too.

>>729643240
>The problem is, what the hell do you do about it? Good luck finding a bed at a behavioral health facility, and God help you if the patient is old enough to need geropsych. All we can do is begin treatment, endure their abuse until they're as stable as they're getting, write some prescriptions they can't or won't remain compliant with, and send them on their way to do it all over again.
Well the usual protocol is powerful medication to facilitate brainwashing and that brainwashing will hold until the patient reduces their medication intake, so maybe just wire people up with forget-me-now thorazine shuffle drip-injectors like the diabetics have insulin pumps lmao.
>oh someone is seeing crazy demons or whatever? better give them something to calm them down lol, that's the only thing that can help them not talking or anything hahaha gotta trust the science the science says there's no hope for these people ever unless they're too medicated to move quickly mhmm
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>>729643418
We bus them to a hunger game facility where they kill each until one remain, then we give the one who won enough money to drug themself to death 500 times over. Homeless problem solved and we get good entertainment from it, you're welcome!
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>>729643536
wow, just like in squid games!
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>>729639079
I met a guy who worked in construction (so he was already poor) and I hired his back on the job. He got fired after the injury because American worker's rights are a joke and he spent the next few months looking for a job and hooked on drugs for his back pain. He didn't get any government benefits or help because he wasn't disabled enough, but he couldn't get any more construction work because he no longer could carry weight and needed to sit constantly or his back would act up (meaning other works that require standing up like waiter, fast food or cashier were out of the question too.)

Eventually he got evicted and he kept doing drugs because that was all he had left at that point. He is now in prison because he assaulted someone during a drug-fueled stupor.

Good news is that the companies didn't have to spend 200 $ on extra accommodations for him, the landlord didn't have to lose a couple hundreds housing him while he got a job or managed to move away, the drug companies made an extra profit, the prison system got a new a revenue stream and the taxpayers didn't waste money helping this evil piece of shit of a person that clearly didn't want any help and just wanted to do drugs and loiter for fun. O say can you see...
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>>729643418
>to where, another place that will do the same?
To another community, because you said your issue was keeping your community healthy. Just like you don't care where your garbage goes after you put it in the trash.

>>729643456
>wage theft
So you're not just a leftist, you're a commie too, nice. Let's ignore the fact that plenty of well fed people still steal food, because it's easy to sell, because you're under the delusion that everyone is nice and friendly all of the time.

Addicts don't recover unless they want to recover. Let's say there's a new government initiative in your area, all the houses around yours get bought by the state and repurposed into homes for addicts. These addicts then wait until you're out, and rob you blind. In this situation, would you move to a nicer part of town?
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>>729642491
>he managed to solve the homeless problem in large urban centres however
i mean, if you could call it sweeping the shit under the rug "solve the homeless problem" i guess
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>>729643606
We could fork some over to South Korea, yeah
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>>729643657
This is a classic back pain story. I can only wonder how many people just got on drugs. I did the only smart thing and fixed my back with yoga/stretchs at the first sign of it acting up at all LIFT BIG! BIG DEADLIFTS LET'S FUCKING GO. "Modern medicine" is laughably cruel sometimes and the standard "you're fucked up forever but good news we can not fix you with some medicine forever" is basically the same blunder the psychiatrists make.
How many of these tragic helpless victims never meditate or exercise? I can't care for them if they never cared any for themselves. It all looks like everyone blames their circumstances and then just surrenders to conventional "wisdom" which isn't.
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>>729639045
the only solution is to open asylums or kill the homeless. which one you wanna pick?
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>>729643657
You forgot the best news. You get to spread this totally not fabricated story for epic updoots.
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Ok here's an idea how to house the homeless and keep the homes in good shape: random bi-weekly inspections. The ones that fuck up the homes get kicked out and sent to prison and the good ones make sure the homes are taken care of.

Everyone wins.

Now give me a Nobel Peace Prize for solving homelessness.
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Is Pokemon Legends ZA a good game to play? redpill me about it.
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>>729643674
Wage theft is literally just bosses not paying minimum wage or overtime pay, so it's actually illegal in the current non communist system, whatever you think of the concept of wages and all that on principle. This hypothetical that has never happened is ludicrous, and robberies dont decrease when the same addicts are left outside, because it's not easier to beat addiction when you don't have a place to live or bathe yourself or anything, whether or not you want to.
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>>729641260
>parents you live with lose all money and property to healthcare bills
Just find another job? Hobos don't even try so they'll get round up and shot. It's literally that easy.
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>>729643935
>This hypothetical that has never happened is ludicrous,
But it happens all the time. Low quality residents decrease property value and increase crime. Nice to see you didn't answer the question though, the best you can do is insist it's impossible due to your personal biases, the alternative would be looking "bad".

>robberies dont decrease when the same addicts are left outside
They decrease a lot when you remove the addicts from the community, and your house becomes a less valuable target when it isn't surrounded by crack dens.

>because it's not easier to beat addiction when you don't have a place to live or bathe yourself or anything,
This makes little to no difference in reality, and there are a million programs already in place to help people get clean. The reality is that almost all homeless people are addicts by choice, and would not get clean even if you abducted them off the streets and forced them into rehab. The tiny percentage who attempt to improve their lives actually do.
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>>729643931
It's really mediocre. What you see is what you get. Like a 4/10 game for me whereas SV is a 6-7/10
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>>729643407
>Some sort of inability to leave the area and travel somewhere new where it is affordable to rent
not having money?? do you think most homeless people have the thousands required to move and rent for up to a year until you actually get a job in the new place?
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>>729644190
And mind you >>729644054's ass and Canari's tits probably account for a fourth of that note
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>>729643489
I'd prefer the return of institutionalism. In the absense of that option, your continuous thorazine pump but unironically would be my preferred solution. Unless you're sitting on some hitherto unknown cure for one or more psychiatric disorders, anyway. Unfortunately the best we can do is a long acting injectable antipsychotic. Good luck getting a schizophrenic homeless man to ride a bus to get a shot in the ass every two weeks.
I was going to give you a lecture on the futility of arguing with dementia, delusion, delirium, etc when you unironically suggested talking, but then I realized the inherent hypocrisy in that course of action. If you've never failed to convince someone that being dark outside when the clock says 2:00 means it must be 2 in the morning instead of there being a grand conspiracy to block out the sun to keep him prisoner, you really shouldn't speak with any authority.
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>>729638229
being racist is worse. why are you being so anti semitic towards innocent jewish people? just because they are wealthy? if you tried working harder maybe you wouldn't be homeless, racist chud. sexist racist. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
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>>729639814
>Just a thought.
Why do you fucks always leave a little stinger like this in the dumbest fucking posts imaginable? Those "armrests" are stupidly low, you'd have to be Mr. Fantastic to pull it off. "Just a thought", you have no thoughts.
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>>729639990
I think its maybe the same shit that makes people think that they can go get mood changing drugs from psychiatrists and fix their problems like this. Homeless people live with a certain mindset that needs to be addressed if you actually want to get back to being a person with a house. Giving them everything they need won't solve the issue without councelling. Americans are very prone to give medicine without going to therapy so thats not something that is true only for homeless. Its like a person is angry that they can't walk after a surgery when he hasn't gone to the kinesiotherapist. European countries treat mental health as a necessity, not as a political tool.
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Just say jews, retard.
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>>729638229
Whole lot of communist midwittery in this post, and all the posts replying to it.
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>>729640164
well, it seems to have worked very well since the media focuses overwhelmingly on the woke shit instead of economics

enjoy your hillary instead of bernie
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>>729640583
you made the choice to use a computer which is bad for your health, now you get to die of nigger aids with no healthcare anon
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>>729644316
Yummy
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Homeless was basically solved just like the migrant workers back before Biden. Nothing drastic, just make them keep moving until nobody sees them. This was deemed unspeakably cruel and so homelessness was legalized and therefore encouraged to such a point which it became a problem.
For reference there were migrant workers with working visas shipped to work at farms. They were paid low wages but of course the money goes far in Mexico. Not far enough it seems, as the then-leadership scrapped the visa programs because it "was like slavery" and then all the workers simply became illegal. That problem only sabotaged food production after ICE started working overdrive so you can blame whoever you want.

>>729644297
Some people are hollow shells and are really 45 IQ bipeds that are only nominally human. You can't talk people out of that. Meanwhile someone tipping the scale at 145 can solve their own mental illness without a doctor's help, even if the feat is unknown to medial science. Contend that if you want.
In either case the vast majority of people that visit mental institutions get the exact same treatment medicine which is a list of drugs prescribed indefinitely and only token attempts at therapy. Mental illness is always trauma-induced. Illicit/recreational/psychoactive drugs usually just catalyze emotional trauma, or large amounts may induce it.
>you mean I'm really living in a cardboard box connect to a vast spiderweb of copper wires all pumping lightning towards me at a constant rate and people aren't even sure what electrons ARE?????
High IQ people occasionally think themselves into madness. Low IQ people simply appear mad when they're unable to grasp ideas like personal property or hygiene. The doctor sees them all the same because he's a well-educated fool.
Some people belong in an asylum, sure but an open asylum is permitting and encouraging life imprisonment without bodily autonomy.
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>>729639614
Trust levels or homeless have fuck all to do with hostile architecture, that shit is dependent entirely on how much your government hates you
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>729644594
addendum: NGRI is basically the asylum treatment as far as I know. If you can't speak in court you cannot create a contract, literally you cannot buy things. This is also fine and just, only the CRIMINAL madmen are forced to be lab rats until they expire.
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>>729643918
>Yeah let's just make our prison population even worse! What could go wrong?
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>>729644594
>Meanwhile someone tipping the scale at 145 can solve their own mental illness without a doctor's help
It's kind of crazy to me that most people are so stupid that they can't control their own brain. Can't imagine living like that, I imagine it's like when you're sleeping and most of your brain is off so you do things that don't make much sense when you're awake, but living like that permanently. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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>>729639774
Absolutely horseshit

I work with homeless (Or did, left that shit this week funnily enough) and anyone who has done the same has told you they dont want to help themselves.

Obviously there are SOME cases where some poor shmuck is just down on his luck and needs help righting the ship of his life, but they are a tiny minority. The vast majority choose to be homeless in the same way someone chooses to go to work or not to. Or chooses whether to cook a decent meal or shovel fast food down their throat every night.

They had the information of what is good for them, and made a conscious decision that they'd rather be homeless but continue drinking/doing drugs/whatever their vice is and were accepting of the consequence being that they lose their accommodation.

Trying to get them back into a house and STAY there is ridiculously difficult because you're basically asking them to rewire their own brain and start prioritising things like paying bills, their sobriety, following tenancy agreements etc. which they clearly dont give a fuck about and just live to get their next fix
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Post Emma butt.
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>>729644594
>if i dont have to see it, the problem is solved
lol
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>>729644828
>offer them to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $1/h
>they refuse because it's literally worse than being on the street
>woooooooooooooow look they don't want help
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>>729644262
My brother in christ, you are already homeless in this scenario. Wtf do you mean "move and rent for a year until you actually get a job in the new place".

You take your pay check, you get on a bus or a train, and you go somewhere else where rent is lower so you can actually afford to live.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

90% of the time the reason people dont do this is because they've always known and lived in one particular area and the concept of moving somewhere new is scary to them, and they dont want to be far from people they currently use for support e.g. friends they tap up for drugs etc.
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>>729644901
>Make up fantasy scenarios like homeless being offered jobs that pay less than minimum wage aka modern day slavery by legal definition
>"LOOK AT THIS INJUSTICE I JUST IMAGINED"

Literally does not happen because it can't happen.
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>>729645041
>noooooooooo shut up jews would NEVER do something illegal to make more money that's pure fantasy
lel
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>>729640292
It's not just drugs, it's hospital bills too. Like fifty percent of Americans are two missed pay checks or one bad hospital visit away from homelessness. Don't buy into the image they're all drug addicts who chose that - that's just the cope normies go for because "It would never happen to me."
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>729645024
Ew, kill yourself
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>>729639297
>>729639774
You shouldn’t be asking how to help or deal with the existing homeless. That’s a question of mental health (which America sucks at). What you should really be asking is how people became homeless in the first place. It’s easy to dismiss it as drug addiction like a stupid chimp but where do the drugs come from and what motivates people to get hooked on them?

The economy is fucked. The drug crisis is fucked. Politics is fucked. Healthcare is fucked. Housing is fucked and we went through a pandemic with lockdowns. All while politicians flood countries with foreigners to get cheap shitty labor, compounding the issues that already exist.

At this point you don’t help anyone via simple reform or charity. Shit has to be torn down and built from the ground up.
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>>729644819
I read your post wrong for a minute. I need some more peace of mind myself.
The doctors pegged me with some nasty diagnosis once and I've been off the medicine for eight years now, living by myself, working, going to school, etc.. People aren't perfect, not me, not doctors.
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>>729644984
nobody wants to hire homeless people my man
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>>729645298
fent crisis kills 80k americans a year its killed more people than deaths on the gaza strip
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>>729639990
>councillors and social workers so they're available whenever, based on the belief it's easier to beat addiction and mental health and if youre not also sleeping in the cold and running from cops who ineffectually chase them in circles. 97% of those people were still off the streets a year later, better than any prison or non-housing first option, and they generally took in the worst cases.
I bet you're lying. I would bet real money on it.
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If hobos can't integrate into society, well, hasn't anyone tried to build communes or colonies specifically for them? I'd imagine these places would have to be fairly small in order to be able to look after all the patients, these people obviously can't exist in these large and intimidating cities. There's something oppressive about large urban areas, and that breaks the most fragile folks which these people are. Not everyone is built to withstand this kind of environment
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>>729638229
What does that have to do with mentally ill/drug addicted vagrants who won't ever be coherent enough to afford or maintain a house?
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Actually I know you are lying. Such systems have been tried up and down the west coast USA with awful results.

The question is, why are you lying? What do you have to gain from lying about this? What sort of person benefits from attempting to coerce others into believing this fantasy?

It's a complex situation, but we can cut to the chase by summary executing faggots like you, the drug traffickers bringing addictive street drugs into the country, and anybody selling or distributing it.

Once we have no more shitlib scammers bullshitting us about 'programs', reduced amounts of addictive drugs, and a reign of terror that keeps drug dealers underground, we can see just how bad the problem actually is if junkies cannot get high or get addicted in the first place.

>you can't just kill people
We can. We already are. Soon the classification of terrorist will be extended to dealers/traffickers inside the USA, and then to anybody engaged in fraud within the system to steal from americans while not actually 'helping' anyone. The bloodbath is coming, it can happen to you, it can happen here, and it is going to happen here.
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>>729639532
You clearly never lived in California and it shows since they’ve been doing that for years and it doesn’t do shit to help the homeless problem. No matter how many programs or free homes they open, the problem doesn’t get smaller. They might as well throw their money into a black hole.
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>>729645510
It's called a gulag, and it serves two purposes.

1) forced labor at something retards and junkies cant fuck up
2) eventually killing the undesirables sent there
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>>729645615
drugs are good for the economy if anything they should be legalized if you get addicted its your own fault
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>>729645024
wait.. IS THAT?
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>>729645647
>US has homeless putting up tents on pretty much every major city
>In Yurop that doesnt happen (not to say there arent homeless, there sure are)
>Most US citizens claim homeless cant be helped and that they just are that way
If thats really the case, I wonder what causes the homeless infestation to be so much worse in US? Not trying to stoke an argument, I'm just genuinely curious.
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>>729640292
What country are you from?
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>>729637391
It's funny to me that the japs of game freak go on these vacations to the countries that their games are based on, for "inspiration". And they probably saw these benches in Paris and thought that it was just part of the architecture.
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>>729645918
Drugs. Cheap and widely available drugs.
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>>729645982
>And they probably saw these benches in Paris
they havent cause we don't have these



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