>hogwartz legacy: 34 million>cyberpunk: 30 million>CoDs: 30 million each>pokemon shit & aids: 27 million>it takes 2: 23 million>monster hunter the shit one: 17.5 million>mario elephant: 16 million>ass creed valhala: 15 million>god of drama ragnarok: 15 millionholy fuck do normal fags really make up THAT much of the industry now? how long have i been in the dark? how the hell are there more than 30 million people that even like hogwarts shit, let alone to buy the game? assassins creed is still a multi-million buyer series?! guys it's been shit since brotherhood! some would say earlier! no wonder these fucking companies stay in business despite all the shit i see on here about how dogshit these games are, there's a continent worth of mindless pissant consumers shoveling their money at all this complete slop. am i just poor? are these games actually fun? they look like ass. idk maybe im just getting older.
I'm very surprised at the sales of phasmophobia and it takes two
>>729639439me too man. did no one tell them portal 2 has co-op? it takes 2 looks like there's some element about fixing a shitty relationship, maybe that appeals to all these empty headed retards. phasmaphobia i could never theorize about. they must have done a segment about it on cnn or fox.
>it takes two 23 milFucking what?
>>729639834People like co-op games
>>729639226We all came together collectively to tell the troons we didn't care that JK was a TERF and it feels so good.
>>729639834It is a friendship slop game.
slopwarts sold that much? jeezy badabeezy!!!! At least NINTENDOCHAD and FROMSFOTWARE are carrying
>>729639226NPCs love their cattleslopI tried to make my little brother play Elden Ring but he just wanted to play NBA26
>>729639226>how the hell are there more than 30 million people that even like hogwarts shit, let alone to buy the game?Because the IP is still strong, feeds off nostalgia, and the game itself was fairly solid? It was also the first time you actually got to walk around Hogwarts and the surrounding areas in full while also being full of fanservice down to the dorm designs.>assassins creed is still a multi-million buyer series?! guys it's been shit since brotherhood!Even though the nuAC games are a complete mess of bloat due to their country maps they are still perfectly acceptable historical tourism simulators with parkour that no one else is doing and if you don't understand what a "Podcast game" is you won't get their appeal. Hell, you won't get most open world and Ubisoft games' appeals in general. They're perfect for zoning out, clearing out checklists, and just enjoying the flow of it as you have something else on a second monitor or a TV.>are these games actually fun?Animal Crossing has always been strong but Covid sent it to the stratosphere.Elden Ring is overhyped but it's still a solid game.Cyberpunk sold on Witcher 3 hype, nowadays it sells on merit and having a NMS situation.COD games are just fun casual games. Normalfags like them specifically for the multiplayer aspect with singleplayer being the cherry on top sort of like Halo. But they are fun.Black Myth Wukong's sales are mostly in China as far as we know so it's sort of astroturfed in terms of sales, but it was still a solid game.SV was only bad at launch because of the sheer amount of bugs. The actual structure of the game is fine even if it's unbalanced and it actually makes you enjoy roaming around gathering HMs, doing the school sections, and especially Area Zero.Wonder was a solid Mario game and better than most of the NSMB games they've been knocking out as of late.Valhalla is solely because of Covid and people buying Odyssey a bunch after Origins basically revived the franchise.
>>729639226I remember in the 2000s when 10m was considered a mega block buster, and when dead space sold 1 million it was news worthy, the market is bigger now but games are far less varied
>>729639226Wait Cyberpunk sold this much? I always thought when it released you needed a nasa pc to run it somewhat smoothly? I know its a couple of years old so I guess hardware just got better and cheaper and people kept buying it over time?
>>729641523>and the game itself was fairly solid?it mostly functioned but it is by no means "solid"3/10 game
>>729641636It’s 5 years old, phantom liberty and update 2.0 really spiked its sales, and the game has become a standard benchmark for graphics which also implements the rather uncommon Path Tracing
>>729641636Witcher 3 being so successful made CDPR a household name. Even normalfags knew of them. Cyberpunk also had an insanely prevalent marketing campaign which further added to that. https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/regulatory-announcements/current-report-no-67-2020/At launch alone it sold 13 million copies.After that it suffered heavily due to the sheer amount of bugs and piss poor optimization which led to CDPR taking a massive hit to their reputation. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners is what took them out of that hole. It ended up becoming a FotM anime just as CDPR was pushing out tons of bug fixes and optimizations leading to people giving it a second chance and it essentially had a No Man's Sky moment where people realized CDPR spent the time and effort into the game which allowed people to overlook the launch.Once that happened Phantom Liberty came out and the rest is history. People now generally accept that the messy launch happened but CDPR proved themselves worthy of people's respect and trust though they're more cautious now. It's also used as a modern day Crysis for benchmarking.>>729641791>3/10 gameThen you are being hyperbolic because it was completely fine as a game. The only bad aspects of it are the gearing system and how grossly overpowered if you upgrade it alongside the ridiculous amount of goblin/bandit camps you have to clear. Your standards are astronomical if you rate HL as a 3/10. It's like a 6, maybe 7ish. I didn't even have any nostalgia for it since I grew up in a "Harry Potter teaches children the occult" household so I didn't even get to watch the movies until I was an adult.
Ragnarok is way too high, considering how it was much worse than God of War 4.
>>729641523im not gonna disparage against your analysis because i havent played nor did any research on any of these games. that said, the games i listed in the OP were surprising to me because they seem like poor quality. cyberpunk released to a litany of bugs and am surprised it recovered, but i don't understand the mass appeal of open world 3rd person shooters anyway. pokemon has looked like trash since it transitioned to 3d models instead of 2d sprites. calling asscreed a "tourism simulator" is an interesting point, but would be surprised that the masses of drooling consumers have any interest in history whatsoever. it's still hard to believe that anyone aside women/children play 2d mario platformers. between the cheery goo-goo ga-ga noises all the characters make and the saturated color palette, from the outside it looks like the digital equivalent of teething rings. CoDs being popular does make sense, but i'm a horrible sport and can't play multiplayer shooters without wanting to burn my house down so i think im just jealous.
>>729639226>only one of these that I've actually played>I didn't even like itwhat does this say about me?
>>729642172>but would be surprised that the masses of drooling consumers have any interest in history whatsoeverMany people have played AC2, Brotherhood, Black Flag, or Origins which shows them if they like the formula or not and then they just buy more of them. They're also heavily advertised with insane ad campaigns.>it's still hard to believe that anyone aside women/children play 2d mario platformers.That's just you not really understanding that platforms are fun. It's not like there's no difficulty in Mario games, and Wonder itself has a Kaizo-esque level in it>CoDs being popular does make sense, but i'm a horrible sport and can't play multiplayer shooters without wanting to burn my house down so i think im just jealous.Just play the singleplayer campaign, that's the only reason I buy them when they drop to $20. They're essentially a popcorn flick that lasts 8-10 hours made for consoles which is why playing them on PC is a joke even on Veteran. You're not supposed to take them seriously at all.Keep in mind that with almost all of these games they had enormous ad campaigns with billboards and TV slots. Normalfags in particular just drop $60-70 on random stuff advertised to them or their friends were playing and they got hit with FOMO.
>>729642171You have to remember a lot of Sony's games sales numbers are including bundled copies
>>729639226you haven't been the target audience for most video games for at least 20 years.
>>729639226Every single game there is fun and worth playing, even if just for a little bit. Every single one.You can compare these with the absolute firehose of dogshit that makes its was to online storefronts, flash-tier "games" that run in the sidebar of Facebook and F2P streamed multiverse shit that single mothers use to keep their kids from screaming.Reply to this with your favorite indie or whatever that deserves 30 million sales. It's probably obtuse bullshit, overt sex creep or just a glorified version of candy crush.
>>729642728i don't like that throw away games that are fun for "just a little bit" is the standard. I think games should be special. like a good book, something to really sink your teeth into.
>>729641636Cyberpunk is an absolutely gorgeous open-world game with a great story that features branching and replayability and decent emergent gameplay and mechanical depth. It's been that way since launch, and it was completely playable at launch and I know because I beat it on the 1.1 and 1.2 patches. It's the only AAA game for its setting. People complaining about it either are conslows or just watch YouTube. See: >>729641523 and >>729641961 who can't critique the game at all without bringing up 3rd party heresay and other shit they heard about from YouTube. There's no reason to watch the animes (I didn't) and all PL did was add another story branch and flatten some of the RPG elements. They would know this if they actually played the game instead of listening to marketing and YouTube.
>>729642953>a glorified version of candy crush
>>729639226>more than 30 million people that even like hogwarts shitIt's harry potta, you live in a cave or something?
>>729643181that's a disingenuous over-simplification posted to get my goat, and you know it
>>729643126>who can't critique the game at all without bringing up 3rd party heresay and other shit they heard about from YouTubeExcept you're the one ignoring the elephant in the room that was CDPR having to publicly apologize for how poorly the game performed and buggy it was at the time to the point that the investors were pissed, ignore how Sony removed the game from their platform entirely because of how awful it performed even on the PS5, ignore that the first several months of the game's existence were about how terrible it was to even play it, ignore how Edgerunners paired with big patches caused people to reevaluate the game, and then PL just reinforced that they were committed to supporting the game with strong content and patches.I did not get this from Youtube, I got this from literally living through the entire experience. 2077 was a complete mess of a launch but they clawed their way back.
do you think ACNH would have sold as well if it werent for covid?
>>729639834FUCK THE OSCARS!
>>729639226Rise was better than World. Unless you think that walking around like a retard huffing monster farts was compelling gameplay or that MH as a series benefits more from being a cinematic experience rather than just letting you fight the monster.
>>72964335440 million? Not a chance in hell.30 million? I think this would really be pushing it even if we think in terms of lifetime sales. I would imagine without Covid it would sit in the early 20 million range.20 million? Yeah, I can see that for sure just based off of New Leaf's performance.New Leaf, the best selling AC game up until that point, was 18 million and the Switch was doing significantly better than the 3DS ever did.
>>729643236much like star wars and marvel, i just cant disassociate the IP from its perceived audience of maladjusted,30 and 40 year olds. and if that's correct, how are there so many of them? are younger generations getting into harry potter? do they give a shit about the books? or is the whole IP held up by aging adults who grew up with it?
>>729643313>CDPR having to publicly apologize for how poorly the game performed and buggy it was at the time to the point that the investors were pissed3rd party heresay. The game had bugs but it wasn't any worse than any other open world PC game. I don't care about investors, you don't either.>Sony removed the game from their platform entirelyConslows>the first several months of the game's existenceWas when I beat it and had a great time. Far from "terrible to even play", it was fun and beautiful. Lots of YT's about that, though!>Edgerunners paired with big patchesHow? I played and replayed the game and never had to watch an anime for a patch. Check your mirror, you might have been marketed.>PL just reinforced that they were committed to supporting the gameIt's literally just a story branch. All this "committed to the game" stuff is taken right from marketing material and YT.>I did not get this from YoutubeHa! Lying faggot!
>>729643950>The game had bugs but it wasn't any worse than any other open world PC game.Are you kidding? It had game breaking bugs, police who would instantly appear where you weren't facing, and people in general were having horrible times playing through the game. It was Assassin's Creed Unity levels of a disaster because people were expecting something to Witcher 3 quality and got an enormously buggy mess. Just because you enjoyed your time doesn't mean you can ignore the general sentiment from that point.>ConslowsI didn't realize their opinion didn't matter when they make up a huge chunk of the sales and people playing the game.>Far from "terrible to even play", it was fun and beautiful.Cool. Your singular opinion doesn't change the reality of the game at the time in the public space.>How? I played and replayed the game and never had to watch an anime for a patch.Do you even understand what I am saying that you think you had to watch the anime for patches? I'm saying that Edgerunners airing, getting positive attention, and then CDPR also releasing optimization patches at the same time caused an uptick in people focusing on the game. You couldn't go five feet without someone talking about Edgerunners even in normalfag circles because of the blue chick in particular.>It's literally just a story branch.It was a major DLC and meant to mirror Blood and Wine's quality DLC. CDPR specifically used it as a way to show people that their trust wasn't misplaced.I have no idea what world you live in that only your opinion matters and you misconstrue everything I say.
>>729639226ok, now post the lifetime sales of gta v
>>729644324jesus christ.
>>729644231>It was a major DLC and meant to mirror Blood and Wine's quality DLCI'm done arguing with you because I'm just arguing against vague "sentiment", but even this line is just marketing gibberish. You wouldn't even know this without seeking out 3rd party commentary, sorry, "sentiment".All your posts just stink of metafagging, which is to say, spending more time consuming media ABOUT videogames, than actually PLAYING them. Good day!
>>729639226>HogwartsMassive brand power, broad appeal game, a solid 6 for “gamers” but for HP fans that don’t vidya it was like an 8>CyberpunkHype from day 1, huge press for the initial failings, Netflix anime, redemption arc sales>CoD Sports game crowd, they buy >4 games a year FIFA/Madden/NBA/COD but they all buy it >PokemonToo big to fail. Xillenials still buy it when they know it will be bad, every year more children are born and introduced to Pokemon who don’t have the frame of reference of when the series was “good”>It Takes 2Friendslop, Reddit darling, mainstream press boost in non-gaming outlets for being an emotional story >MH RiseDedicated fanbase, Tendie buying power >MarioSee above + Children>Ass CreedDifferent series direction but visually enjoyable, mechanically solid, chill games, huge brand still>Dad of BoyGOW Reboot was huge. Is one of the few “core” PS5 games.>Other games in picrelMostly viral Reddit hype and streamer marketing doing a lot of heavy lifting and some brand recognition. Elden Ring is the most accessible FS game and had the biggest marketing budget. Tendie buying power is strong, as are Chinabux for Wukong.None of these games should be surprising to you outside of maybe It Takes Two selling as many as it did. You live in a bubble.>>729639439>ITTsee above >PhasmophobiaStreamslop popularity boost >>729642953>a good book>factorioDopamine activator with ding ding casino style mechanics
>>729644410>All your posts just stink of metafaggingThe entire discussion is about why these games sold as much as they did and you're ignoring enormously important aspects of why they did for "I liked it".
>>729640731>"cattleslop">elden ringget a load of Captain N here. you think you're better or worse than Elon?
>>729640731Did you get this from a YouTube comment section? Or are you acting how you think Anons should act?
>>729643813I am a 30 yo that played hogwarts, didn't pay for it though. I have a group of friends that you describe, one of them bought the game twice (switch and PC)
>>729644441>a good book>factorioi can like both. and while factorio is absolutely a dopamine activator it's not a game with "casino style mechanics". it's an infinity chore game where solving one logistics problem unlocks new logistics problems to solve. you can get as autistic as you want with finding perfect ratios and making efficient layouts and circuit network shit. hence sinking ones teeth into it.
>>729639226>ass creed and goy of war get in for 15 million but Palworld doesn'tGay.
