Who cares? Both are woke slop.
>Trying to determine which piece of stinky woke shit smells better
I played both and didn't finish either. To Avowed's credit, it at least isn't open world slop. But Tainted Grail still somehow has better itemization.
>>729642136good job on being the better goyslop! here's your present
>Avowed>Kingdom Come 2>Tainted GrailWhen will chuds stop getting BTFO by first person RPGs? This year was a massacre.
WOAH, THE SKYRIM KILLER
>>729642316>dwretard
>>729642313So, same as every other year?
>>729642136hmm nyo
>>729642313Two more weeks, bro. Elder Scrolls 6 soon and it will be so heckin redpilled.
Do any of you people have anything interesting to say about this game or Avowed besides just crying about culture war slop? No one with IQ above room temperature gives a shit about that.
>>729642447>>729642226
>>729642136Does it have waifus? if yes its already better
>>729642532Haha no, only ugly slags.
>>729642532Avowed has a waifu thoughbeit
>>729642313dumb sataniaposter
>>729642313First person RPGs are almost never good anyways.
>>729642313Avowed is woke trash.KCD2 isn't woke.Tainted Grail isn't woke.
>>729643020>KCD2 isn't woke.Uuuuuuuuuh bros... How do we tell him?
>>729642447Of course not, Avowed doesn't deserve any attention other than the culture war slop.
>>729642136Fuck no. Tainted Grail has good combat and good loot mechanics, as well as an interesting story and world. Avowed is just aids.
>>729643053Try not spending 24/7 on /v/, chuddie.
>>729643020Deboonkedhttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/wcdetected/discussions/0/682989857019101663/
>>729643020Deboonkedhttps://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=204&start=390TOTALWOKEGODVICTORY
>>729642664DaymI can see how the game sold 3 billion copieswoke wins again, chud dies!
>>729643098>>729643147i will now buy ur game
>>729642447didnt play after the big patch but>runs like dogshit despite looking like it>npcs yap way too much>silent autist protagonist>nice quests>little to no roleplay>combat could be very good with some mods but in vanilla its bad>the cumalot plot is very interesting>gothic style loot, love it or hate it>very underwhelming world aesthetics with tons of barren areas and the fact that it has performance problems is baffling>nice sountrack, heavy vibes from witcher>bad npc ai>exploring feels overwhelming at first and underwhelming on revisit>okay sound design>no gore>no destruction>no companions except for a retarded pet>friendly npc design is pretty damn good, they all fit their role pretty well like cokehead medic, butch bitch trader, minor deities that tell you "bro idk im just a swamp god"
>>729642136No, it isn't.In fact Tainted Grail is better than Avowed and Skyrim combined.I'm currently gathering all the Tainted Priestess's used panties in the All-Mother temple to sniff later. TG is a great game desu.
>>729643307>with tons of barren areasYup, it's open world slop.This is unironically something Avowed did right.
TOTALWOKEGODDOMINATION
I'll play Enderal instead. It's free and better than both.
>>729642447Avowed is a weird jump from isometric RTwP CRPG to first person action RPG. I like it, combat feels better than videos convey. Playing a mage is fucking fun as every spell is unique and you can wield a spelltrigger pistol in one hand and a grimoire in the other. Warrior play is nothing special but kicks and charges send ragdolls flying so it evens out. Dialogue is like every post-Avellone Obsidian game, stilted and quick to relieve any tension they might build. Lore and worldbuilding is amazing like always. Magic items are everywhere, not open world and exploration is rewarding. The game is at odds with itself trying hard not to stand out, but combat and world shines. Not worth 80 smackaroos though, get on sale, could really benefitted from a demo to let people try the combat.
>>729643480I agree. Aside from the bad writing and bad side quests, the biggest fault is the loot. They did a good job making a cool world that is fun to explore, but they forgot to have a good density of stuff worth a shit to actually find in it.I'm so sick of craftingslop.
>>729643147>AIslop avatarWhy are chuds like this?
>>729643480>As long as you look past the shitty story, characters, and dialogue, you too can enjoy this mediocre FPS
>>729643579What is also odd is how they tried to translate so much of PoE ruleset into First-person: Dual wielding, deflection, two handed restrictions, but stopped at Fighter, Wizard and Ranger. I dreamed of using Cipher skills, Paladin oaths, Rogue tricks, Priest miracles and Druid shapes.
Tainted Grail has a good first act, an okay but weaker second act, and a weak third act. Ultimately your choices barely even matter at all outside of a few differences in the ending slidesAlso you NEVER GET TO FUCKING VISIT CAMELOT WHICH COULD HAVE ACTUALLY MADE YOUR CHOICES MATTER
>>729643871Avellone said they're working on Avowed 2. I'm not expecting a good RPG or anything close to the Pillars games, but I imagine they will add more spells and more classes from PoE. Seems like an easy shoe-in improvement.Would be great if they let you kill NPCs in this one. I made the mistake of playing Avowed 1 as an evil character and there's not much I can do.
>>729643795Gameplay, anon, gameplay. I will not excuse the flacid storytelling, but combat does feel good and no amount of greentexting will change it.
>>729643958The combat is fun as a mage but the real strength of Avowed is just exploring the world, in my opinion. As in, the non-civilized areas.
>>729643098>Smut stories have smut.>lying about gay blacksmith.>One pair of lesbos.>Fantasy game has a very small number of female fighters.You people are becoming annoying.
>>729643941No, its even less interactive world than Outer Worlds (which do let you genocide the entire galaxy and react to it). Avellone? Is he back at Obsidian?
>>729644002>You peopleI'm laughing at them. "muh woke" tards are fun to make fun of.
>>729644032>Avellone? Is he back at Obsidian?No. He spitefully leaked Avowed 2 in a tweet to get back at Obsidian.
>>729643098>I heard I heard I heard there's a pair of lesbians in the game's joke erotica series>I heard I heard I heard I heardOvergrown amygdala moment.
>>729644106He's a steam curator for wokeness, mate. It's a community effort!
>>729643480I'll wait for the last content patch and a big discount to try Avowed, mostly because of fish Garrus companion
GINNUNGAGAPNIFLHEIM MUSPELHEIMILD IS DRÃ…BER FALDER YMIR JOTUN SKABER ASER
>>729644267Yeah, I liked it, but it's definitely worth 20 bucks at the very most. I pirated if, of course
Tainted Grail is ok. It feels like some weird mix of Dark Souls lore and Skyrim combat. There are always some cool places to find and hidden usable loot. Quests can have sometimes hidden outcomes if you do more than just follow objective markers. The main quest writing is passable but the rest is kinda whatever and most of the dialogue is plain boring. Combat is dull and easy too, I have used magic and even though there are 40 spells only like 2 are usable.
>>729644106
>>729644280Strings and bagpipe melodies got stuck with me for a while
>>729643098>girlboss barbarian tribeIs literally not a "girlboss tribe", it's the Sveinn tribe but the actual leader is in the Forlorn Swords, the "girlboss" you meet is just someone in charge of a camp in the second region of the game. Also, their tribe is slowly crumbling and she acknowledges this>LesbianThe Liliana stories are memes, they're in the in-game version of the Lusty Argonian Maid. The "lesbian NPC" is in Act 3 in the Forlorn Swords, again, with the Sveinn tribe one of them commits suicide >Blacksmith can be romanced by a male charIf you specifically use your own health to fill his heart, then tell the Blacksmith yes you're in love with him too. You have to select multiple options to get to this point and talk to the Blacksmith multiple times. Whoever said there is a "show me a magic trick moment" literally did not play the game, you have to not only finish multiple quests for the Blacksmith, finish one of them in a very specific way, and also talk to the Blacksmith multiple times, after finishing his quests you also have to deliberately pick the "yes I'm gay too" option after he blatantly confesses to you>gender swapped knightIt's literally just one knight, and one of the NPCs in game outright say that female knights are rare
>>729644403>»Why are you playing a game called Futanari di Funghi, anon?»>»Its for very important research!»This shit is too fucking funny.
>>729644323even though there are 40 spells only like 2 are usableThe cheese spell is fucking busted.
>>729644504The bleeding spell is busted too, if you have the perks where critical hits restore mana, have a high crit rate from perks/perception/gear then Merlin's Thorns becomes busted too because you fire so many projectiles with each cast you are inevitable going to get crits
>>729644078Thats one way to learn about the game I guess. In place of PoE3, hope Avo2 has a time jump, I want to see couple generations after the Wheel was broken.
>>729644426Whatever you say, tranny. >Unironically trying to earnestly add nuance to "muh woke" arguments.
>>729644504>>729644601The stealth build with fireball is broken too.
>>729643480If only the game wasn't UE5 slop and utterly vile to look at in terms of art direction. The gameplay does look fun but goddamn, I cannot get over the visual deficiencies.It is a truly hideous game and I don't care much for the setting either.
>>729644426>It's just one!>You have to choose the gay options!It really is KCD 2 all over again.
>>729642136it basically is the same as avowed but with a slightly more compelling story and worse combat
>>729644668>>729644601Literally everything is broken in that gameYou can take a glance at the perk list and you will naturally come up with 5 different broken builds on the spot
What's the most fun combat style/build in Tainted Grail?My natural predilection is to be a two-handed gigachad but I've heard mage and duo-wield are also fun.
>>729644697I think the game looks gorgeous in terms of environments. The ugliness is only with the character models.https://steamcommunity.com/app/2457220/screenshots/
>>729644668>>729644504>>729644601None of the fucking spells are busted. I'd say they're actually well balanced compared to what you can do with two handed weapons. They just one shot everything once you get the right perks.
>>729644784Unless you want to one shot everything then don't use magic. It's too strong. Melee seems more fun.
Game was kino, good auther shit.Recent DLC was good, only complaint is that it was sometimes hard to tell the difference between background and enemies.Shame you have to take the glass cannon route when you're NG++ and beyond
>>729644789That's kind of a big one though. If you absolutely hate the godtouched or whatever the fuck character designs, you cannot play the game.
>>729644784Two handed guy becomes insanely op halfway through the game and the game becomes a slog as a resultI don't know what the most fun build is but I know it ain't that one
>>729644874Cheese is busted because you can turn your endless mana into money or decent healing items.
>>729644784It doesn't matter, during Act 2 you become so OP the game becomes trivial, play however you want. The only "weak" build is probably unarmed and that's mostly because there isn't a lot of good gear for it outside of those gauntlets you can find near the entrance to Cuanacht
These jews really got me. The EA version had no woke shit in it so I failed to refund.By the time the full game came out in all its woke, unfinished garbage glory, it was too late.Go>>729644765od job Moshe, you robbed another White man of his NEETbux.
>>729644905Its a weird choice I respect Obi for sticking with: They got Microsoft money to make a mass appeal action adventure game, but force you to put fungi on your char. Can opt out but every npc will act as if mushroom grow out of your eyes. «Ok, we are ready to ship, but can you please drop the disgusting mushroom asthetic?» «The disgusting mushroom stays!»
I prefer the melee gameplay in Avowed and of course the AAA polish is nice, but Tainted Grail has a much more interesting setting, characters, story and quests.
"Lesbians and gays didn't exist in history"- /v/
>>729645020>I enjoyed this game>But it turns out it has wokeness in it.>That means I got robbedWhy are chuds like this?
>>729643098>gender swapped knight of the roundtableAnd why is it bad?
>>729645020I'm honestly glad you had a miserable time and wasted money. Hopefully this will keep happening to you in the future.
>>729645081I didn't play Tainted Grail yet but I fully believe that it has better quests than Avowed. Avowed's quest design is pretty bad. There's like three good side quests in the whole game.
>>729645108they are the triggered snowfalkes of 2010s and should be teated as such.
>>7296421362/10
Okay... But is it actually fun to play? Apologies for using a buzzword.
>>729645092It's not /v/, it's just retarded shartyfags trying to ruin the quality of the websiteignore them and they have no power
>>729645020>I'm having fun with this game>Oh it has a lesbian in it? Actually I wasn't having fun, I hated it all along
>>729645165Combat is ass and it's open world so do not under any circumstances try exploring the maps thoroughly, but yeah, it's fun.
>>729645165Yes sorry for confirming fun things exist
>>729643901>Ultimately your choices barely even matter at all outside of a few differences in the ending slides But when BG3 does this shit it's the best RPG ever made
>>729644280I really like the opening song. Just the right amount of moroseness to hit the feels
>>729645108I did not enjoy the game. I thought the first area was all right and the main game woild be good and more polished, little did I know the first area is the least mediocre.
>>729645165Yep.
>>729645165see >>729643901Act 1 is the strongest, Act 2 is okay but weaker, Act 3 is the weakest. You also get way too powerful by the midpoint in Act 2
>Play Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon because I played previous Tainted Grail roguelike game which despite being shit had good art direction and music>Immediately run into Fall of Avalon re-using assets and sound tracks from the shitty roguelike>The sound tracks are still from a norse-themed band who sing nothing about Arthurian myth, their songs are about Norse myth>they fucking use them in the cutscenes to bootAbsolutely fucking embarrassing.
>>729645165yeah it's pretty fun if you are itching for something similar to skyrim
>>729645263Yeah I don't really give a shit about "muh choices" either if a game has a decent narrative of its own
https://youtu.be/FAzyuj2rWZY?si=qLKUJd5Mwv9DW8ec&t=1059Kinda crazy how much this game's story changed.Tempted to go play the old version being I missed out on early access.
>>729645303It's an indie game
>>729642136Avowed is good and The Outer Worlds 2 is great and the legitimate New Vegas successor Now I gotta try Tainted Grail because I heard good things about it
Where dis Dark Sovls 1 mage nigga at after I free him?
>>729645336Not only is it not, even if it were that is still not an excuse for that degree of incompetence.
>>729645375He tries to kill you later, when you visit the Abyss of Sagremor [//spoiler]
>>729645339I simply cannot tolerate The Outer Worlds setting. It's too reddit. Or, to be more substantive in my criticism, it plays too much like a complete parody. I don't like completely parodical settings. They get tiring very fast.
>>729645375Underworld kingdom, forget it's name, apparently he was meant to have a whole storyline. Instead he just straight up attacks you, real disappointment.
>>729645437Did you even play it
>>729642226I finished Tainted Grail but couldn't make it past the first level of Avowed.Granted I think Tainted Grail kind of sucks and the demo is blatant false advertising but at least it's trying something. Avowed feels like it's not interested in you playing it beyond making you choose a pronoun.
>>729645174I was pleasantly surprised when I played because there wasn't a single black NPC in this english folklore game. One or two of the female NPCs were unrealistically "strong and independent" for the setting, but they're in the minority and other than them, I didn't feel like the game was woke at all.
Here are some of the nun panty i've collected btw. Each item becomes a separate sack when you throw it out, so the whole basement is overflowing with them now lol>>729645417>>729645451oooh ok, i've already cleared it, hopefully he still spawns, I want his hat
>>729645497And all it took was prioritizing that consistency over making a good, polished and finished game. Huzzah!
Trannies desperately trying to plagiarize gamergate and do it in reverse by mocking sane people complaining about jewish propaganda are pretty funny.
>>729645634Why are you seething then?
>>729645321I didn't follow the game's development, what happened?I looked up characters on the wiki and the old models are a lot more detailed, it's like they were made for a different game.
>>729645560But Fall of Avalon is very Polish, good, and a finished game with the 1.15 patch.
>>729645560>Huzzah!Please crawl back too your grooming subreddit you tediously old millenial.
>>729645560I played it recently and it felt as finished as an AA game can be, really. My only gripe was with the questionable balancing. It's too easy to become overpowered and there should be some "I want the whole game to feel as hard as the tutorial" setting in the options.
>>729645634Here's your sane person, bro
>>729645698I'm not, I legitimately find it funny that a bunch of aging gamers permanently raped the mind of every troon 10 years agi and you still haven't recovered :)
>>729642136Tainted Grail's first 2 acts are an honest-to-god TES competitor. I'd say that Tainted Grail has better combat/itemization/RPG elements than TES, but worse music, writing, atmosphere, world design, etc. Stuff like that.As for Avowed, I'd say that Avowed has slightly better combat than Tainted Grail but then it has everything else worse than Tainted Grail AND TES. Basically it's like:>CombatAvowed > TG > TES>ExplorationTES > TG > Avowed>Story/WritingTES > TG > Avowed>RPG/ItemizationTG > TES > AvowedI think you get my point.
>>729643147Why do jeets pretend to care?
>>729645774>People are named knights throughout the game>Even explicitly stated in Lancelot's tomb>Only some knights had immortality>Chuds seethe at the idea of a mortal woman being cursed by the false all-mother
>>729645810Definitely reads like someone desperately trying to cover their seething to me.
>>729645812>Worse writingI disagree. Characters feel like people with their own motivations, while Skyrim and Oblivion had an issue with NPCs feeling like quest givers.
>>729646014Writing to me includes lore, side quests, stories, etc. That is the one thing TES has always had. Super rich, actually pretty good lore/world building. TG's stuff is like, unworkable. Arthurian legends are kinda lame, and trying to make it edgy is even lamer. I prefer my Arthurian Knights to be more like the Brettonians from Warhammer, they're hilarious.That is just my personal preference though, if you like the King Arthur stuff then it is probably a gold mine to you.
>>729645774How that tard got that far without realizing Grail Knight's names are used as titles, like surname being your profession.
>>729646128The weirder part is that she literally tells you that much during the cutscene that plays so he must have been frothing so much from his every orifice at the sight of a woman that he jus did not read. Or listen.
>>729646107Personally I didn't care much for boring old Camelot stuff going into this game. I saw it as kiddy stories. But after the introduction to this game's King Arthur, I was on board with seeing how things played out.
>>729643098>>729643147lil chuddie crashout
>every single thing that isn't a generic enemy is just an uninteractable static prop used at best for a dialogue cutsceneThanks, Tainted Grail. I was disappointed over and over and over, right until the very Push Button To Ending wrap up.
>>729642532Yes. You get a based retard noblewoman who makes clothes for you
>>729642136Avowed was great. You know a game is good when /v/ hates it for no reason and hasn't played it.
>>729642532My barbarian librarian wife
>>729644106It’s a false flag, anon. Unless you know any chuds that unaccountable respect pronouns
hmm... from what i've read in the thread, why does the game push for lesbian sex but no straight sex for MC? Too controversial?
>>729646593Read the thread after taking your retard glasses off.
>>729646593Yeah the creators actually announced their transition live on discord and the entire community supported them and the next patch is turning King Arthur into Queen Arthur.
>>729643098>They made a new woke detected groupkek joinedI love brainrot like this. I miss OneAngryGamer.
>>729646631p-proof?
>>729646453>FalseflagUh-uhHere's 56 pages of a "falseflag"https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2025Any other copes you'd like to share with the class?
>>729646593You literally can fuck the Cuanacht woman who gives quests. In her tent. Which is open to the public.You can even do it after marrying the girl from act 1.
>>729646375I knew I was going to fuck her the moment I saw it. She REALLY makes you work for it, though. Like holy fuck you have to build out a whole house for her on your own dime before she even considers you as a partner.
>>729646187Or he was looking for anything he could claim was woke and misrepresenting it on purpose.
>>729646685go on a run; stop being fat; benefit your household or neighborhood in a significant way
>>729643098Getting real tired of these retards
>blast niggas with fireball>ragdolls away somewhere in the wheat fieldsfugg :DDD
>>729646638big talk coming from a tusonaian mutt
>>729642136You have to be mentally ill to think that.or "account from India".
>>729646783It's funny at first but then you start losing out on loot because every single body gets ragdolled to the other side of the area you're in.
>>729642136How viable is a plain sword and shield warrior?
>>729646593I feel like you're falseflagging as anti-woke. An actual anti-woke (aka normal) person would be expressing relief at how this game has basically no wokeness. Like me when I didn't see any random POCs or (unkillable) strong females. Shit was refreshing and let me get immersed in the setting.
>>729646935Why is the game you like so woke, tranny?
>>729646928It's all viable and fine, I played a melee warrior and it worked well.
I'm playing through it now and having fun. Just reached the second area. Got a question though, do skills actually do anything? Feels like they don't and all your power comes from your tree and gear.
>>729647000why is the board you you so gay faggot?
>>729645774It's not the same perceval? Just like the Galahad in game isn't the original Galahad why are these false flagging trannies and pajeets so pathetic and retarded?
>>729647083in english this time
>>729647083Good job, kid. You made it through the captcha. Now try seething less so you can communicate effectively this time.
>>729647083>Chud is a jeetMany such cases!
>>729647101>>729647128nigger ching chong faggot MAGA square to you
>>729646187they dont play games
>>729647181This
>>729647052frankly i forgot already and i don't have it saved anymorewith 2 respecs you can get infinite money by dumping all your points into the attribute that increases sales price and then crafting a buttload of special ammo (the one that uses the resource that spawns at night)there's also a sword that scales with your magic stat and it seemed utterly broken when i played it but they probably patched that one out
why does eclipse shard lose it's CLANG when using the parry effect? SADhttps://litter.catbox.moe/2tg8kkqhsmpy1w6d.webmwish i could just replace the sound>>729647052depends on the skills. some seem absolutely useless, like the +2% armor value incrementsthe parry stuff is really good though, combined with stamina dmg and stagger dmg bonus
*Fails to even get half-way through act 1 despite stating he grinded for 8 hours to level up*
>>729647307How the fuck do you even have to grind in these games? Just play the fucking game lmaoa.
>>729646187She is also clearly a spellcaster on top of it, so if anything the game went through the biggest lengths it could to let you know there is no way for her to measure physically to the rest of the fags of the roundtable unless she magics her way through. Which is almost more insulting, really.
>>729647000 Man you're definitely false flagging if you're coming in with a folder full of forum screenshots. There's zero reason for me to speak to you in good faith. I can only tell you to suck shit because you obviously wish this game was woke and you're annoyed at how this game's lack of it kills your agenda.
>>729646928Shields are great at deflecting magic projectiles, stand next to someone who throws a fireball while blocking and it blows up on them, there's a lot of shields that have great effects like making enemies bleed on every hit.
2nd map is better than 1st map
>>729647459There hasn't been a single swarthy brown character seen in my entire playthrough of this game so jeets and wokies are definitely mad.
>>729642532Only one. Cutest character in the entire game. That isn't a high bar but still.
>>729643901>you NEVER GET TO FUCKING VISIT CAMELOTWait is that real? I'm playing through it right now and I figured that's where the last area would be. Is it really just a bunch of countryside areas with one tiny friendly town in the corner for the whole game?
>>729642136>baiting to get people to replyAvowed was garbage, I at least could stomach Tainted Grail to the end despite it's flawsi really liked the items and the builds they opened up for mei was a mage using minion build and it was pretty fun
>>729647656You forgot to include her feet in your pic anon.
>>729647675Yes, and there is a very critical reason for that.The path is blocked by some rocks and the dudes tasked to clear them just don't really wanna.
>>729647692>keeper minionsComplete dogshit, should be using way better summons like grindylow boys.
>>729646593game actually pushes for gay sex for the PC there's a blacksmith dude in the 2nd town and if you take his quest (that has no romantic connotations whatsoever) you have to basically read a wiki to avoid entering a relationship with himthere's a quest in the same act where a guy becoming a witch's enchanted fetish slave is treated as a good ending and the dialog really gave me misandrist bipolar twitter witch vibesbut those are the only two instances of woke shit i remember
>>729647749yeah they sucked complete ass but i was just using them at the time for some reason or other and then i got to see them T-pose
>>729647692these assholes kept barging into my cutscenes
>>729647749For me it's Galahad, Gawain and bunch of Kamelot spearmens summons.
>>729647861Me personally I like using redcaps, their jump dodges are great keeping enemies destracted while I just pound them from behind.
>>729647459I'm making fun of the people in the screnshot. Sorry you played a wokeGOD game.
>>729645437The setting of the Outer Worlds is good, there's nothing parodical about it. It's an actual rendition of corporate neo feudalism in an unregulated new space and the political turmoil around the conflict between settlers, trade routes between systems and such. It's more like super condensed Battletech lore around a very specific sector than Warhammer 40k parody.There's nearly 0 humor in game, the only humor there is is Owellian. In a Godless and rootless society corporations use brand as religion and borders. It might quite be the most recent franchise to strongly critique globalism and you faggots that didn't even play already pretend to know what it is likeAlso, It also uses an effective "no dump stats" Sawyer philosphy where each stat gives something very meaningful to any kind of build so you can hyperspecialize on crits at the cost of removing health regen and dumping the healing you get from curatives, and of course the retards like Patrician TV and Codextards threw a bitchfit about muh "jack of all trades" even though the jack of all trades build sucks, doesn't sacrifice much but also doesn't get the most powerful perks in endgame or the most powerful bonuses like huge carry weight/huge slow motion timeIt's also better than anything Bethesda could have possibly doneThe second game fixes most of the flaws of the original and is one of the greatest western RPGs but you can't fuck your subordinates so trannies don't careSource: I actually played the game
>>729647921It's not woke though, it's anti-woke actually because it shows a pre-nigger infested, culturally and ethnically homogenous england.
Part 2 lolTOTALWOKEGODDOMINATION>Avowed>Kingdom Come 2>Tainted GrailYup, we eating good, wokeGODS
I am gonna say it:Avowed and Outer Worlds 2 are both underrated and actually pretty fun. Avowed has good combat and it is fun to explore, it just has a meh story which is a knock against it but the game is still fun. Outer Worlds 2 is also just a fun space RPG. They did seriously listen to feedback from the first game and your build matters way more. You can't just chug a beer and change your pants to pass any charisma check.I recommend pirating both games or leeching off of someone's xbox gamepass or something. If you can get them for like ~$30 I think that is fair price, though I think Outer Worlds 2 is gonna have some DLC, so maybe wait for that.
>>729648010Oh yeah them trying to make Outer Worlds 2 the first $80 game from Microsoft was so hilariously out of touch that I think the person involved in that decision is legitimately retarded.
>>729648005Yeah? Explain this.Wokegod status? Victorious.
>>729648010Those games are AIDS faggot shit coded dogshit no thanks.
>>729647967>>729648010I liked Avowed fine (The Pillars games are obviously miles better) but I got bored of Outer Worlds fast and shall not play the second. I simply do not like the setting. It feels like some Futurama shit.
>>729648060You're just a tranny or a disgusting poop jeet trying to well poison so no thanks I don't have to explain anything, just go back to your bbc raceplay fantasies back on xitter.
Some magic could be fun, like the summoning multiple thunderbolts. But then the enemies just step away from it. There is also cool stuff like tornado stuck in those soulcubes which are totally useless. There are also not enough euipment slots for magic. If you use wands then you can only use 4 spells. I don't even have space for all those healing spells and magic shields.
>>729648075>>729648128Oh nooo, not the whining chud well. *Shits on it* Get mocked some more.
>>729642532Only english roses
Found this in Lover's Cave, hidden deep in the tight twisted passage, behind a bush.
>>729648171 (Me)wtf... a game for cuckolds... and shes not even pretty... bros... the wokeGODS won... AGAIN!!!
>>729648171You have an axewound between your legs or you smell like poop, look like poop and eat poop off the floor loI.
>>729648171Based woke game
>>729648204There's a lot of special loot you find in hidden places, I found a really cool bleed shield in the glowflower cave in a buried container.
>>729646685You didn’t answer the question.I can explain why someone with autism would fixate on a subject and spend an unreasonable amount of time on it.You can’t explain why someone claiming to be anti DEI would respect pronouns.
>>729648171Not like this, chudsissies
>>729648165The game suffers from trying to be controller friendly. It unironically needs input options for mice with 9 side buttons, because this "2 at a time" thing is silly. I should be able to switch spells much faster. Oblivion was actually faster in this respect, lol.
>>729648290Yeah, this game was made for lootgoblins
>>729646928Very good, granted I actually play a spear and shield warrior. Just be careful when trying to block boss attacks, since most likely they can just completely eat your entire stamina bar leaving you stunned.
>>729648297>SomeoneThat thread has 60+ posters. The majority of them are clearly not falseflaggers. Why are you trying to distance yourself from this mockable list so hard, bro? Is it, perhaps, because it makes your views look really fucking retarded?This is just what naturally happens when someone tries making a consistent list with your retarded chud whining.
>>729648340Having only 2 ring slots despite having hundreds of different rings was a very dumb decision, bull fucking shit I can only wear rings on my ring fingers only.
When did the poles become such cucks anyways? Is Tainted Grail's studio also (((compromised)))?
>>729647808>blacksmithIf you do the quest normally by killing monsters there's no romance. If you decide to use your own max health then an option opens up. 30 max health is a significant amount>witchHe raped her and admits to it. You can kill her without even listening to her or after at any point, so it's fine in my book.I would not call the game woke but there is some modern tones to the writing. You are free to kill whoever and chose either option in a quest so I do not mind.I'm pretty anti woke but labeling lesbian smut as woke is ridiculous. Dislike how anti woke also includes religious censor fagsI really liked the skill tree but found the world too bleak. Also, I used no clip to back track and glad I did because walking is a pain and the horse sucks. I played after-ish 1.0 so not the recent patch/dlc. Hope tes 6 doesn't have shitty skyrim magic. Overall I enjoyed the game but probably should have kept the ending where I skipped act 3 and just fought my way through. Act 3 is weak.
>>729648290That bleed shield combined with the bleed spear outside the Horn of the South is my entire build. I don't even build for weapon damage anymore, I just fight through pure attrition until the bleed debuffs finish them off.
>>729648171>he didn't say the right linesmeanwhile if you actually do it properly, she goes on a date with you
>>729648385Man, 60+ posters all respecting pronouns?My, what a unique hive of chuds you’ve got there.
Tainted Grail may be woke, but it's fun
>>729648326If they ever make a sequel one thing I hope they take from Oblivion is having spell usage WITH your weapon equipped, such a simple quality of life mechanic that feels like lost media at this point.
>>729643098I'm really thankful I don't have the genetic disposition for whatever this is. Must be miserable living like this.
>>729648481Honestly, woke shit is severely lessened when the game is willing to let you kill mostly anyone. There's a surprising amount of NPCs you can perma-kill in this game.
>>729648481It's not woke you well poisoning shitjeet, black death on your mother.
>>729648465>Man, 60+ posters all respecting pronouns?No. This "gotcha" you conjured up gets evaporated with the minimal amount of reading in the non-falseflagging thread that you are desperately trying to paint as a falseflag because it makes you look as retarded as you are. Sorry, chump.
>>729648449Any company large enough to be forced to have diversity quotas is compromised.
This thread smells of leftards and shitskins.
>>729648612It's a troon or poopjeet trying to discredit Tainted Grail as being wokeslop when it's been anything but.
>>729648654Well duh, that's pretty obvious. Another target for trooncord, eh?
>>729648689Most likely sour grapes because gamers enjoy this but reject actual wokeslop shit like avowed and outer worlds 2.
>not enough DPS to kill him before morningreeeeee
>>729648654Is it good? I've been holding off until it's done with expansions and updates.
>>729648654>>729648689>>729648760Don't shoot the messenger, chuddie. Sorry you like the wokeGOD game.It's ok. The industry belongs to wokeGODS, just like it has for the past two decades.
Oh lol is that the gcj faggot behind the falseflag list, in person?
>>729648878You should go troll him on steam to find out.
>>729648798I had a funny encounter with this guy where I kept spamming healing potions and all mother amulets and he got so mad he stopped fighting me and just started slowly walking away, I don't know if it was intentional because I kept hitting him in the back with my hammer clearly indicating this fight isn't over yet before he stopped, unsheathed his weapons again but he despawned because it was morning.
>It's night time>I see some big ghost thing out the corner of my eye>Go to try and fight it>It just disappearsWhat the fuck was that thing?
>>729648915Nice try faggot.
>>729648961Hey, man, he's a falseflagger, right? :^3Nothing wrong with trolling a falseflagger.You will totally not be engaging in chudtard friendly firing. Don't worry about it.
>>729648951if you see him, say hello to him
>>729648116Outer Worlds 1 sucks, in my opinion. Not good at all.Outer Worlds 2 is substantially better and worth a pirate. Setting is written a bit better, but overall still similar. It is just that the actual RPG part is much stronger making it more compelling.
>>729649062I'm too autistic to start a second game without finishing the former one first. I'll just ignore The Outer Worlds.
>>729648951It's the nameless knight, really fucking hard world boss that only spawns at night time, there's one in every zone and if you do manage to kill it (good luck because dvery attack can instantly one shot you) he drops a lot of good mystery loot.
>Friend has this on family shareOh. I guess I'll give it a try ten.
>>729649268You should, it's very kino. For a non-elder scrolls fantasy game it's pretty great.
>>729648798What is this?
>>729648808The base game is fantastic, there's a lot of dungeons with many secret rooms and loot you can find, surprising enemy variety all with their own unique attack patterns, human enemies constantly side step out of your view, throw knives and even drink healing potions themselves which is way more engaging than what you would see in skyrim.
Tainted Grail has good aura while Avowed is a gay tranny game at first glance though
>>729649613Yeah, there's a difference between wokeness sprinkled into something and something being woke as its identity. It's the difference between a game that has bugs in it and a buggy game.
>>729649613Tainted Grail has you being a giga chad knight with king arthur in your head while avowed has you play some gay looking brown faggot with mushroom aids on his face.
>>729649717Planescape Torment has you playing as some gay looking grey (blue in the cover) faggot with aids on his face
>>729649693Yeah pretty much, and if you want to be a schizo and drop every piece of media that has "woke" shit then you might as well just drop it all and watch Asmongold complain about shit on youtube for 4 hours. (And people actually do this)
>>729648798>>729646438I could like this game, I hear good things about it, but its just SO FUCKING UGLYI cant. Sorry.
Your response, /v/?
>>729650329I kill her for antagonizing me.
>>729648798He glitched out for me once and just stood there so I shot him to death with a bow
>>729643405?
>Game shows arthurs corpse in a crypt getting black goo from HR giger lady statue>Arthur appears in your head after>NPC that was doing "something" on the asylum island tries killing your connection to arthur and says only bad shit happens (the wyrdness)>Supposedly it didn't work but your character keeps quiet about itI really hope they don't come with some gay twist later on
>>729650671No gay twist.Just suffering from all sides.
>>729650671>he blabbered about Arthur to the first rando that asked
>>729651317>he blabbered about Arthur to the first rando that askedFuckno, i'm not that retarded. Definitely should have an option to tell that fag from the island the morning after
>>729651317I've told the insane zealot commander, who burns people for memes, about everything. Church is our friend and here to help after all. What's the worst that could happen :)
>>729643307>silent autist protagonistIs this supposed to be a bad thing? Haven't played the game, but any "RPG" with a voiced protag is automatic trash.
>>729644032He's never going back to Obsidian. His equity got stolen and he was booted from the company. Too much bad blood.
>>729647000Is this Rusty the guy that used to post on RPG Codex? He swapped forums? Haven't visited in a while, but that autist's name is familiar.
>>729648654It's honestly weird. It's a paper thin charade, very clearly from one person rampantly samefagging while attempting to be as obnoxious as possible, but the sheer effort involved indicates he's actually trying to convince people.Just downright peculiar
>>729649864No one here ever called Tainted Grail woke. It is just redditors from r/GCJ coming here larping as anons to take screenshots of themselves. They are still angry at Veilguard, Avowed, etc. flopping this year.
>>729648171>he couldn't get her to fall for himActual skill issue. I bet you bored her talking about how you have arthur inside you or something.
Y-yeah it's totally a one night stand for me too, I understand ha-ha...;_;
>>729642136well, it has a much lower level of production than Avowed. but it's more interesting in most aspects.and Avowed in more in the modern Bioware influence of everything quite intuitive, simple, and action based. you slap on whatever you think it cool and it will work. Grail is more like older Bethesda influenced and trying to be around Oblivion level w/ Morrowind influence, you are actually allowed to have a bad character if you don't focus on a build and playstyle.
>>729652204Close. It all started with SBID going viral. Their list was made as a false flag in order to muddy the water with ludicrousness, giving them the opportunity to conflate the two to people who had heard about a list but didn't know much about it.
>>729651738Honestly he seems pretty reasonable if you talk to him. I dunno, maybe that changes later but of the two you can side with Galahad seemed much more reasonable.
>>729652074Yes. I don't know the entire story, but basically, the /pol/tardation in RPG Codex wasn't good enough for them so they made an even more /pol/tarded and anti-woke forum called RPG HQ.This is the main hub of stuff like the BG 3 mod that removes all wokeness like pic related. And it is now twice the harbinger of the based anti-woke list that /v/pol insists is a falseflag.
>>729648461>>729652251
>>729652617Seems retarded. Codex, at least, is primarily concerned with the RPG qualities of games. People regularly enjoyed games that are deemed to be "woke", if they had redeeming qualities elsewhere. This seems like going too far, where your primary concern is no longer the quality of the game, but the perceived "wokeness".
>>729652753You will not believe what their thoughts on the new Divinity trailer are
>>729652897Lol, Roguey posts there as well? There was a lot of pearl clutching about the new Divinity trailer. Seems like people forgot how grimderp DOS2 was, or they didn't pay attention and notice it, thanks to the cartoony art style
>>729647739lol
>>729645139Nasu is a woke lolicon
>>729642136scrolls-like slop is all shitI legitimately do not get the appealSkyrim is only good because there's 5 million mods
>>729652356Oh yeah. It's played up mostly through other characters telingl you about it. The scene when you meet him doesn't seem that extreme, considering how fucked up Avalon is and him being an inquisitor fighting the ongoing rebellion. He explains everything and is being very cordial towards main character all things considered. Unlike the slimeball Captain. Barbarians come out feeling like assholes too and won't hesitate from killing you if needed. Galahad doesn't even punish anyone in the Keep after resolving the situation.
>>729653457>Skyrim is only good because there's 5 million modspeople always say this but I've never seen a Skyrim mod beyond bugs/UI fixing that seemed worth installing, it's just a sea of middling random shit
>>729643098>incest and sodomyI will now buy your game
>>729653797>>729652356Interesting to see 2 others who were like me. The captain was asking me to help him betray Camelot because of one guy apparently being an asshole to him. I killed him on the spot.
wow I haven't been in such a NPC killing mood in while
>>729642151>>729642189What is woke about this game?It looks genuinely good and I am thinking of buying. Enlighten me.
>>729645485What is false advertising about the demo?
>>729644874>>729644504summons are busted from early Act 1 and so is the death ray spell from Act 3
>>729653457An RPG where every item and every character can be interacted with is an inherently good way to start development and you are a tasteless faggot.Name your favorite game so we can laugh at you.
>>729648010I found Avowed mediocre, mostly because of too little build options and enemy variety.What's keeping me from Outer Worlds 2 is how absolutely appaling/boring the party members look and I'm not a chud that expects them all to be bimbos but holy shit they look inane af
>>729642136If Avowed is even greater than this, it must be fucking excellent.
>>729654982Avowed got better with a few patches, they gave everyone more talent points and improved a lot of the unique items. I don't know if more enemies got added though.Yeah, Outer Worlds 2 has better companions than 1 but they still aren't great. Game is fun as a loner though.
>>729645406>Not only is it notIt's made by ten polish guys in a cellar, give them a break
>>729654739see>>729648654>>729652204
>>729642136Is this game poorly optimized or is my PC just that trash?
>>729649552A jerk that stalks and tries to murder you every night after you're done with Act 1's plot. 'Can' be killed, and is actually worth farming once you have enough power to do so.
>>729654974Flower, Sun, and Rain
>>729643098>babby's first interaction with grimderp anything
>>729654739>>729643098>>729643147
>>729642316Dovahkin! Dovahkin!
Can I be a warrior with a fuck hueg two handed sword and heavy armor?
>>729656606Of course. 2h is probably the best build too.
>>729656606Yes but the armor system fucking sucks so eventually your heavy armor will just be light armor since it's categorized as heavy or light based on how much it encumbers you, not on the armor itself.
>>729642151>>729642189>still using the word woke as we enter into the year of our lord 2026Faggots
>>729656796What would you call it? DEI?
>>729645774Isn't that A "Perceval" not THE "Sir Perceval"? Given that the original Perceval died something like 500 years before? She literally tells you this during the cutscene from that screenshot. Actually, I think you can meet the original Perceval in some necromantic ritual pod, since the Avalon government is so desperate for the old glory days they've been using necromancy and soul-binding to keep the great heroes around.>>729647921Isn't the leader of the Dal Riata Othar One-eye or something like that? The entire Act 1 plot is getting to talk to him. All the Dal Riata are guarding the temple while the people outside is her, some hunter looking for his brother, the blacksmith, the alchemist, and a woman who likes to challenge people to a fight since she's not allowed to guard the temple.You're told all of this when you take the mission to talk to the leader of the Dal Riata.
>>729657007They always cry out when you shine the light on them, whatever term you use and gets popular will cause similar backlash from them. Just keep calling them out, their bullshit ideas dont hold under scrutiny
>>729657182They held just fine for the past 13 years. You played Tainted Grail, after all. A WokeGOD game.
>>729642136i didnt even finish the first area, i got bored and stopped. does it get better? i think the problem was that it was too easy
>>729657121Hmmm, but my lesbians, sweetie. I'm so fucking triggered over gays.
Another third world Skyrimslop.
>>729656656That's retarded. Devs just don't fundamentally understand the point of armour?
>>729642226Avoided is gayer than Veilguard no wonder you like it
>>729657285If it felt too easy and boring even before finishing 1st area you probably won't like later parts. Enemies do get a bit more varied and dangerous tho.
>>729657371The protection doesn't change, what changes is now you go fast and can dodge more while wearing it. It's "light armor" as in armor that is light, not armor that offers light protection.
>>729655753I have seen this happen with multiple games so I believe it.Still would like to know what is false advertising about the demo.Cheers to all the real niggas in the thread.
>>729642447I'll echo other anons' sentiment on Avowed. The combat and exploration was pretty fun, but the story was nothing to write home about, although if you're a Pillars fan, it did expand on the world building in interesting ways. I'm very happy that they didn't rape the lore.The one thing that annoyed me the most throughout the game was how same-faced and ugly all the NPCs were. Your companions were fine, but it felt like they gave up on the NPCs especially considering Outer Worlds 2 looks fine in this regard.
>>729657729For me it's all the orlans having human faces shrank down with added fur on top. It's like a "turn your face into a cat" app from 2010
>>729654974>Name your favorite game so we can laugh at you.World of Warcraft Vanilla, aka the greatest game of all time.
>Piece of shit developers disavowed DSP because of mentally ill trannytractorsme and the 'cord collectively got our steam refunds.
>>729657826why is a gigantic underwater elven woman staring at this dwarf in a submarine
>>729657826>Boss Baby of vidya games
>>729657475You are describing it in a way that is very confusing.How do the player stats effect armor?Like if you get heavy steel armor, what makes that suddenly become light steel armor? upgrades?Is it just the Souls stamina stat where eventually you can wear whatever and not see a difference other than protective values?Or does the loot pool start to change and make no sense?
>>729657821True. If Avowed 2 really is in production and they have a decent budget, I hope they overhaul the models.
>>729657862Your post is inchorent babble just so you know. You have brain damage from memes.
When should I go to DLC area? I think I'm done with almost all obvious side quests and two main quest areas in act 2. Had an initiating visit from dlc guy a while ago.
Am I the only one who feels like camera movement is kinda weird in this game?
>>729658005Don't care. Got my refund. Seethe more, shill.
>>729644047lol
>>729657910nta, but the game's armor skills are a bit retardedif you have heavy encumbrance, you use heavy armor skillif you have light encumbrance, you use light armor skillarmor itself doesn't matter, only your equipment's weightas long as you can carry enough, full plate counts as light armor because it doesn't go into the medium encumbrance thresholdalso, medium and heavy encumbrance only give debuffs
>>729658265>Got my refundProve it
>>729657910>what makes that suddenly become light steel armor? upgrades?You can either upgrade gear to weigh less or increase your strength so you can handle more without it weighing you down. Both will turn armor than encumbers you into a lighter class, which lets you move quicker and have more dashes. Heavy armor still protects more than say, mage robes. But eventually you get to the point where super heavy armor doesn't slow you down that much, so you can be a nimble tanky mother fucker.
>>729658023I went as soon as I unlocked it in act 2. I was playing a mage and it was weird balance wise. Enemies barely tickled me but it took forever to kill them at the start.
>>729644214Oh look, it's that GCJ falseflag list. I don't know what mindbroke them harder, Hogwarts Legacy of the whole SBI thing.
>>729658310It's also worth nothing that actual skills barely matter in the game too, so going from using heavy armor skill to light or whatever doesn't matter much like it would in elder scrolls. What matters is the skill tree, the gear itself, and to a lesser extent your attributes.
>>729658418Right, right, RPGHQ is a very elaborate falseflag, schizo-kun. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>729658124Turn off at least Proactive screenshake in accessibility options, it's extremely aggressive and sticks center of the screen to every action. Head bobbing and Reactive shake on off obviously helps too.I think in general they are using Unreal's stock character and camera controls solution for gamepad by default, so it interacts badly with mouse movement and smoothing. Riding a horse is definitely made for gamepad.
>>729658418What truly broke him is the fact people cottoned on to it so quickly.He sincerely believed that samefagging hard enough would work.
>>729643147Man that sucks, i bought this for a friend earlier in the year. wish i had known. I'll have to follow that curator, thanks.